If Baron Davis stays healthy and Oden is for real, we could be the best team in the league.

Baron Davis killed Devin Harris in the playoffs last year. Every quick PG that would hurt us in the playoffs is basically canceled out by having him on the team, much like what Tony Parker is doing to Chris Paul. I can’t guard you, but you can’t guard me. I don’t know if Golden State would do it, but I love this trade. Plus Baron would make Paul Allen tons of money. He might be the most entertaining player in the game.

I would miss Outlaw, couldn’t we trade Webster or Frye instead? Davis and Blake are both great shooters so we wouldn’t miss Webster or Jones too much. I think Outlaw causes a lot of missmatches that are really going to shine in a seven game series.

but we’d have to sign him to a reasonable contract.
I prefer trading Outlaw to Webster, so I’m good with that.
We don’t need to add that many picks, keep the 2nd rounders..

Davis is owed nearly $18 mil next season. I don’t know what he wants for an extension, but I’ll bet it’s not a decrease in pay.

His age (29) is fine, but I’m not convinced he can stay injury-free, despite playing in every game this season.

I was unimpressed with how his moodiness negatively affected his play late in the season.

If you bring him on-board, kiss Nate goodbye. If Davis couldn’t get along with Mike Montgomery, he and Nate will be like oil and water.

Finally, do you think Davis will defer to Brandon Roy? Not likely.

That, and I’m not sure he mixes in well with KP’s yogurt cultures.

Last year I made a proposal to get Jason Terry (glad we didn’t get him) and Boom Dizzle. I agree with the culture part. You really have to be careful since this dude is a veteran. The younger guys are going to look to him for guidance. Is he the leader we want on this team? Would he be able to take backseat to Roy? This is Roy’s team….I don’t know if Boom could humble himself and defer to the young gun who beat him out for All-Star weekend.

If he stays healthy and if he morphed to fit our culture, yah—-Boom’s a winner.

how much money would we sighn him for, it seems like staying with his 17 mil might be a bit much, or would he not opt out of his contract at all if he were traded here?

no player over 30 because if we give him a 5 year deal or so his knees and back problems will be critical and we cudnt get him off our books so i say no take d harris

I wouldn’t do this trade under any circumstances. Outlaw alone is worth Baron Davis. Davis is a smug little jerk. Bad culture. And he ain’t got no unrealized potential. Heck I wouldn’t give up a ham sandwich for him, not even an indicted ham sandwich.

Outlaw is worth more than Davis? You seem a little irrational, I can only imagine how painful it must be to listen to your views on politics.

He has a huge personality and presence, and when healthy he’s one of the best guards in the league.

Problem is he’s rarely healthy, and he’s a chucker. I don’t think we need to have a chucker at the PG position. We need someone who can play within the system and play good defense. KP/Nate aren’t building a showtime roster, they’re building a contender. Boom Dizzle is all sizzle and no steak …

rocking these pair of skates…

But haven’t we seen him quit on his team at least TWICE this past season, when they played us? He does that quite a bit actually. He could be a lot, lot better if he played up to his full potential consistently. If we got him, he would take the ball away from Roy, LMA, and make the game about him—he would be the most talented player for now, so you couldn’t argue against it. But just like Z-Bo was the most talented, it doesn’t mean it’s the best for the team and for the future (not that Baron is a Z-Bo, but would have a similar effect).

Renting Baron Davis for a few seasons and taking the team away from our core doesn’t make much sense to me. If Baron had a better attitude, would be willing to take less money, and be able to step aside once he starts to slow down, then sure. However, he wouldn’t be Baron Davis anymore.

Baron has great numbers, but he’s a chucker, a ball hog, and doesn’t always want to play. And when he quits, even Warriors fans hate him. I get angry at him for Warriors fans, because they love him and gave him a second chance after he quite on the Hornets… it’s just how he is.

He’s Hollywood, baby! He’s from LA, went to school in Santa Monica, I dunno if he’d wanna be in Portland even if it gave him a chance to win. He might care when its prime time, but over a season he ain’t a winner. There’s no reason he couldn’t be considered up there with Nash, Paul, whoever your top PGs are. Unfortunately, his attitude and quittyness gets in his way.

We might not get someone as talented as him, but we can get someone who is a better fit. I’d even rather stick with Blake and Jack over Baron. Some guys are so talented that you just have to make the team suit and cater to that player… but it doesn’t make your team better. Baron is one of those dudes.

Plus, like someone else mentioned, the Dubs don’t save much by doing this and Outlaw isn’t enough to do the deal. They can let Baron’s deal expire, so the Raef contract doesn’t help. #13 in the lottery is nice, but probably not what they think will get them equal value.

The Dubs also need a PG, because without Baron they don’t have a starting PG. Monta is only a shooting guard in a PGs body; he’s not a very good dribbler and isn’t a playmaker. He’s exciting, but not a PG. I’d imagine they’d want a replacement of some sort.

We also don’t want to win the chance to overpay Baron as he enters his injury plagued 30s. Yeah, I know he isn’t 30 yet and just played 82 games, but it was pretty much a contract year and if his 20s were injury plagued I doubt his 30s will be much better. Steve Nash is the only guy I can think of who was injury plagued in his 20s and became an iron man in his 30s, but he sold his soul to a nice version of the Devil or sumthin’... because he’s nice and cool and all, so it couldn’t be the real Devil, but he did something with his soul to heal his body up so nice. It a crazy world, yo.

This is an interesting, thought provoking idea that I hadn’t seen many suggest, so I like it. In a perfect world, it’d be sweet. Unfortunately for Baron, Baron is Baron and Baron makes things harder for Baron then they need to be.

I wish my name was Baron :-(

Mortimer

First of all, check out this article from a Bay Area on-line newspaper:

http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_9231691

If B.Davis is going to opt out and become a free agent by July 1st, 2008 why would we need to trade to acquire him?

Unlike other B-edgers, I feel that the only position we need to shore up is PG. What I am saying is that Martell Webster and Travis Outlaw are our SF/F’s of the future and present. If we traded Outlaw we would need and combo-forward to come in and be a major part of our rotation. I would much rather give up Channing Frye, JJack, Raef’s contract and next years 1st rounder and a few of 2008’s 2nd rounders. Channing can run with them and they need big men. JJack can play with or behind Monta Ellis and we would keep our last 1st round lottery pick for a long while by trading next years #1 instead.

Heck, if the Warriors are going to lose B.Davis to free agency anyways, why not do this? They gain Jack who is a great team mate (much better than Davis’s history) and can score off the bench, a first round next year and quality young running big-man in Frye. (2) 2008 2nd rounders to add International prospects on top of that.

The Blazers get B.Davis and retain Sergio so we can keep developing him. With this years #13 pick we could much more easily replace Channing Frye (with like KEVIN LOVE at back-up FC) than find the PG of our dreams at that point in the draft. And we keep our Outlaw-factor… man his dunks and blocks are momentum shifters!!!!

Outcome…
Warriors:
PG M.Ellis/J.Jack
SG M.Pietrus/M.Belinelli
SF S.Jackson/M.Barnes
PF Al Harrington/B.Wright
FC A.Beidrins/C.Frye

Blazers:
PG B.Davis/S.Blake/S.Rodriguez
SG B.Roy/R.Fernandez
SF M.Webster/T.Outlaw/J.Jones
PF L.Aldridge/#13 pick
FC G.Oden/J.Pryzbilla

I would do it like that and RealGM.com trade checker checks out on this one too!

do i have any good reason? no. Just seems wrong.

We’re a young team, he’s not. We have future stars growing together, and he’s already grown. I seem to remember not liking him for some reason, and i like the blazers and I think i’d like to keep not liking him. He takes away from the specialness of the team for me.

I suppose I could come up with good reasons, but I’m sick and if my brain was functioning i’d be working.

Don Nelson might be the only man who can coach Davis. If he decides not to return as coach, whether this season or next, I would be inclined, were I Chris Mullin, to trade Davis while his value is high.

With whom else would Davis work well? Phil Jackson, probably. Rick Adelman, but only for a while. Mike D’Antoni, maybe. It’s a lot easier to list coaches with whom Davis would butt heads. Nate is one of those.

Ratbastird said it best: Just seems wrong.