He’s the better defender and the better penetrator. Calderon is the better passer and shooter, but I think we need Harris’ strengths more.

D-FENSE!

They both need the ball to be most effective, but so does Brandon. Harris is the better defender and will be able to drive and dish to our shooters.

Get a good PG defender!

Yay Harris Yay Harris! He’s only 25, while ol’ man Calderon is picking up his social security checks at the ripe age of 27. Plus Calderon has had only one good season, while Harris has had as many good seasons as he’s been in the NBA! I don’t care what they are listed at, Harris is bigger than Calderon. It’s science.

We GOT an amazing playmaker in Roy. Calderon isn’t better than Roy at that. Why not get a decent shooting, GREAT defending, ultra fast athletic PG with a good attitude and able to penetrate on anyone better than Jack?

We won’t need Harris to be our shooter, and he CAN hit the shot just fine. His defense, length, speed, fastbreaking, and athletic ability is exactly what we are missing.

Harris over Calderon, ‘08.

Mortimer

we Harris fans seem to be a vocal minority. Let’s here some arguments from Senor Calderon’s supporters!

Calderon is the better player…Harris will fill our holes a little better. Who will be the better fit? Kinda hard to say, but I’ll lean towards Calderon.

That anyone who votes against Devin Harris is racist.

Calderon is good, and I could see someone thinking we are overrating Harris with how much we build him up around here, but I don’t know how someone could watch both players and think Calderon is a better player or a better fit. Surround Harris with that many shooters (who CAN’T shoot on the Raptors?) and he’ll get gaudy assist numbers too. Put him in a team offense that isn’t predicated on one-on-one play like in Dallas and he’d get more than 5 assists a game. Not to act like a know it all, because I am not an expert on these two players, but I watched a LOT of Raptors games and I watched Harris even more after the Nets trade.

Harris is a better player and a better fit. Calderon is a much better spot up shooter, and obviously has a crazy A/TO ratio. But like Arenas said, so did Kevin Ollie. Calderon benefits from having so many shooters, and he would likely have the same situation here in Portland… but so would Harris, and Harris is eons quicker and better equipped to take on the Derons and Pauls of the West.

I think both players are available for the right price, and I am not convinced Toronto is going to make Calderon the nicely paid starter over TJ Ford (like some suggest). They SHOULD do that, but if they can’t move TJ Ford they will have a tough time doing so.

Point is, I like Calderon a lot. I like Harris more, and if you disagree you must be a virulent racist who wishes Hitler won World War 2. I think it is a logical assumption on my part.

A Harris/Roy/Fernandez backcourt would be a thing of beauty.

I also believe it won’t be the end of the world if we don’t ‘upgrade’ our PG position, and see what happens. It might be like last summer, when we NEEDED a better SF. We don’t worry so much about that now (I know some do, but not like last summer when everyone wanted Rashard Lewis).

Mortimer

Harris. I would take Hinrich over Calderon as well…

I know numbers don’t mean much to Mortimer since his “science” tells him that Harris is bigger when every basketball site says otherwise. But who can argue with crazy science.
Here’s a numbers breakdown of how some of the West’s best point guards fared against the defense of one Devin Harris, and one Jose Manuel Calderon.

Paul against:

Harris 26.6 pts 45% 10.3 A 1.6 TO
Calderon 21.5 pts 51% 16 A 1 TO

Williams against:

Harris 23 pts 50% 11.6 A 2.3 TO
Calderon 21.5 pts 50% 4.5 A 2.5 TO

Parker against:

Harris 18.33 pts 39% 6A 2.33 TO
Calderon 15 pts 33% 4A 7 TO

I’ll admit that numbers don’t tell the whole story, but if you get enough of them you get a general idea. So if you are one of those guys who is hanging your hat on the “defense, defense, defense” argument, please show me something that will make me see that Devin Harris is significantly better than Calderon. In fact if anything these numbers are slightly in Calderon’s favor, and in not one of these games against top flight penetrating point guards did any Toronto big men foul out (only once did Bargnani even come close).

Here’s how they fared offensively against the West’s elite.

Harris 13.7 pts 45% 6.2 A 2.6 TO
Calderon 12.6 pts 48% 7 A 2 TO

If the numbers don’t show that Harris is significantly better defensively than Calderon then I’ll go ahead and take the guy who is a significantly better shooter from anywhere on the floor, a better passer and playmaker (per 48 one of the best in the league), and who takes care of the ball as good as anyone in the league. That’s the kind of science I go by.

And would someone please explain to Mortimer that 33% from 3 point range actually means you can’t hit the shot that well.

I found out what I wanted to know. It appears that there are more Harris supporters on this site than there are for Calderon.

Don’t tell Mortimer though, numbers just confuse him.

This from Scout.com

“What makes Calderon such a steady point guard is his ability to quarterback the offense and control the tempo of the game, with proof of that being his 8.7 assists per game. He has an unbelievable turnover to assist ratio at 5:1. Calderon’s efficiency at his position is unmatched and the argument could be made that he is right behind Chris Paul of the Hornets as the best distributing guard in the game.

Another stellar aspect of Calderon’s game is his shooting ability. While he may not be a go to option, Calderon can easily blow by a defender and pull up for a mid-range jump shot and nail it consistently. Calderon is averaging 12 ppg. He is also very proficient from behind the arc and can knock down the open three, as he is shooting an outstanding 46% from three-point land.

The one aspect of Calderon’s game that needs some work is his defense. He isn’t the most athletic player and that hurts him at times, but Calderon is still a decent defender. He might have a hard time guarding quicker point guards, but Calderon can usually hold his own.”

http://magic.scout.com/2/734294.html

I know our main thing for our next point guard is to be able to stop Paul, Parker, and Deron…but honestly these guy are good because they are unstoppable. Harris may be able to slow them down a tad, but no one can take them out of their game.

So…why pay a premium for a good defensive guard when offensive ones can be had for a lot less money? If we can get someone who is offensively as good as those guys…then it is in essence a zero sum game.