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More Playoff Lessons

Portland isn't in the playoffs (yet!) but we're seeing even more lessons that will be applicable once we start battling seriously in the post-season again.  Two quickies from the last week or so:

1.  These are seven-game series, not two-game series.  As is increasingly typical of fans and media in the modern age a ton of folks are all-too-willing to anoint any minor trend as universal truth.  When the L*kers and Hornets got up 2-0 it was a foregone conclusion that they would be featured in the Western Conference Finals.  Not so fast.  Now granted, that exact matchup is still likely, but it's now a three-game sprint in both cases.  The Hornets are playing the defending champions and this decade's dynasty team.  Even should they win, it was too early to count the Spurs out.  The young Blazers (and their fans) would do well to take this lesson to heart.  Whatever our first breakthrough series win ends up being, it's likely to be against an established team.  It takes four wins to beat them, not just a couple in a row at home.

2.   This is a physical sport.  We talked about this on and off during the regular season but you're starting to see the real importance now with all of the flagrant fouls and star-mauling.  The Blazers will be stylish, skilled, and oh-so-easy to root for.  But unless they have the physical mindset they're going to get clobbered.  This doesn't necessarily mean the Blazers themselves have to thug it up.  We don't need a bench full of goons.  We do, however, need the ability to take a punch and remain standing.  It's absolutely, positively guaranteed that another team is going to push us hard in a seven-game series to see if we'll get distracted or break.  The sooner we show that doesn't faze us the easier it'll be to get past it and start playing basketball.

I'm sure there will be more...

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Playoff Pet Peeves

I hate it in all sports when they say no team has done this or that. The come from behind, or been down 2 games then win it all. The NBA especially, they keep changing the format and adding games, so history has no bearing on the present. TV annalist all use the same talking points. It’s junk.

I always forget how physical the playoffs are, until I see a few games. LeBron James is getting hit way more than Chris Paul. Roy will get pounded for sure.

"Reality is for people who can't handle Blazers Edge." - MiledAnimal

by tominhawaii on May 12, 2008 1:10 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Why to play in homecourt is so great advantage?.

I can understand some influence, but no that much. Officials are refereing homecourt minded or what?.

Since I know that you like the rice with milk, below the door I put a brick.

by amlmart1 on May 12, 2008 1:56 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

That's part of it

Part of it is not having to travel—you get to sleep in your own bed, with your wife or your girlfriend or your dog or whoever, you can eat a tried-and-true meal, your body clock doesn’t get thrown off. The biggest part of it, IMHO, is the boost the crowd gives the home team. Twenty thousand people going crazy is a pretty good source from which to draw energy when you’re exhausted and it’s the fourth quarter.

It’s really no different from futbol: the best teams dominate at home. Going on the road to Nou Camp or Santiago Bernabeu and earning a draw is a fantastic result for any team, you know?

by BlazersOrBust on May 12, 2008 5:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The Energy is really true

for young teams as well.

The Jazz are a good example and the Blazer home record is also an excellent example. Veteran teams this is less true to some extent but having 20 thousand people screaming for you is definitely a bit of a boost.

Here's to being hated. Come on #1 pick!

by ratbastird on May 12, 2008 8:11 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yeah

The LeBron’s and Kobe’s are good everywhere, it’s the roll players that are better at home. That is especially true with Utah.

"Reality is for people who can't handle Blazers Edge." - MiledAnimal

by tominhawaii on May 12, 2008 12:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Un poco ayuda con tu Ingles

Why to play in homecourt is so great advantage?

could be

Why is homecourt advantage so great?
short and sweet.

or

Why is playing with homecourt advantage so great?
the correct/longer way to state what you were trying to convey.

English is such a hard language to learn and sometimes I wish it was as easy as Spanish/French/Italian to learn.

It’s funny, most of the world speaks English, yet we speak little of the worlds languages.

by SpyderRyder on May 12, 2008 10:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ha

I don’t find Spanish easy to learn. To pronouce, maybe.

by Section323 on May 12, 2008 7:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ha Ha

I find neither easy.

"Always Willing, Ever Able" - rivbike.com
"A Dbl Shot O' Whiskey & A Pitcher O' Beearr" - BoilerMaker (It's Game Time Baby, see Ya Again, 'n the Second Half)

by BlueBooYay on May 12, 2008 9:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

well. i should say in theory

my accent is terrible, but I know how it should sound

by Section323 on May 12, 2008 9:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Thanks, Spyder.

Of those powders these muds went out.

by amlmart1 on May 13, 2008 3:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yes but

I thought the hornets would beat the spurs BEFORE they won a single game, and I sticking to that, although Parker and Ginobli came out with that fast paced game that I haven’t really seen since they out ran the Suns (dang that was an awesome play-off series).

The Spurs are a funny team. They really don’t play full out until the play-offs and then they just turn it up a few more notches. They also have the ability to move players around and throw off the game plan of other coaches (see ginobli off the bench or starting and the slow game vs the running game), so it’s easy to believe they’re old and slow and then they obliterate the opponent.

I also believe the Jazz is a weak team and not consistent enough to deserve to be in it. I still say last year was a fluke because golden state beat dallas.

I may regret the NO over Spurs, but not LA over Jazz. Kobe has too much desire to let it slip away (assuming the back injury doesn’t kill him).

And i have more thoughts that I’m going to copy and past into the oden post because I rambled onto the Oden topic.

Here's to being hated. Come on #1 pick!

by ratbastird on May 12, 2008 8:21 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Indeed

the Hornets may still win. That wouldn’t surprise me at all. The point is, it takes four wins, not two.

Put another way, it would be the same mistake in reverse to say the Spurs were now going to win just because they won the last two. But then the Spurs know that. I’m hoping the Hornets don’t learn it the hard way.

—Dave

by Dave on May 12, 2008 8:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I like the spurs and wouldn't mind them winning

except then i’d have to say “dang it! I was wrong!”

I hate that.

Lakers lost two games in Utah, so I’m already on the wrong end. I predicted a five game serious and now I’m raising my eyebrow at the lakers.

this is me… raising my eyebrow.

Here's to being hated. Come on #1 pick!

by ratbastird on May 12, 2008 2:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The nice thing

about profligate posting (and I’m trying to take a page out of your book these days) is that in the unlikely event either of us are ever wrong, the mea culpa won’t even be necessary because the being wrong will get lost in the sheer volume!

Bold strategy, Cotton. We’ll see if that pays off for them.

by BlazersOrBust on May 13, 2008 10:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Heh

I find it laughable at the amount of flagrants called in the playoffs – half of those weren’t even flagrants.

It’s disgusting and there is a very great derogative term I use when describing what David Stern has done with all these flagrants and no-contact play that is happening.

Michael Jordan got hit a lot harder when going to the rim than Lebron James ever has or ever will be, but noooo, we gotta protect the would be “savior” of the NBA.

by damir on May 12, 2008 11:37 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

The Turiaf

ejection was a crock. By the way. Did I hear a whistle before he hit Price? Look at the ref.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SSYcH783yU&feature=related

by Sabonis4Ever on May 12, 2008 2:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Whistle while you work

Yah,, and for no good reason, he hadent been touched by anybody by the first whistle….lame

"Could we make a deal right now to make us a 50-win team? No question," Pritchard said. "Will that get us a championship? That’s what we always have to evaluate."

As the great Vonnegut said, more or less... "You are what you pretend to be, so you must be very careful what you pretend to be."

by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT

by ptwnblzr on May 15, 2008 9:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I agree

Some of these flagrants are ridiculous. Darius Songaila gets a three game suspension for getting tangled up with LeBron after James initiated the contact. Give me a break.

But others are just dumb moves by the players. Marvin Williams, please, just block the shot of that little guard. It is too hard to grab a speedy guy like that.

Then there are fouls that are called the whole game except in the last few seconds. Turkoglu drives to the basket and Maxiell bumps him and is inside the circle. That should have been two free throws.

The NBA. I love this game.

by TallTimber on May 12, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

buffet of goodness

our whole team is.. outside of joel…i keep hearing how much of a beast greg will be in the post… have you been watching the same kid ive been watching..he is all about respect , awe and humility..can he turn into a monster that will take no smack… doubt it..we do need maybe one thug in the paint beside the thrilla

if it can be conceived it can be achieved

by lyfefindsaway on May 12, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Quote

Is your quote from Futurama?

"Reality is for people who can't handle Blazers Edge." - MiledAnimal

by tominhawaii on May 12, 2008 3:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Dunno

Dwight Howard has always seemed like a mild-mannered guy similar in personality to Oden off the court, and he has no problems dominating the paint. I’m not worried about this whole “you gotta have a mean streak to be successful” line of thought with regards to Oden. You can be a great guy off the court and a snarling monster on it, and my money’s on GO to become the latter sooner rather than later.

by BlazersOrBust on May 13, 2008 10:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Thug-life?

Odens off court demeaner is just the calm, soon we will all witness the storm. muahahahaha…

Wasn’t shack amiable off court? Oden is just being profetional.. He wants to win and a few smart people are actively caring about his longterm marketability and coaching him on how to behave.. and he is receptive, that and he is just a nice guy. But buiseness is buiseness. And if I remember right, he mercelessy dunked on some vidio game desk jocky, righy after warning the pore guy… “son, I do this for a living”

"Could we make a deal right now to make us a 50-win team? No question," Pritchard said. "Will that get us a championship? That’s what we always have to evaluate."

As the great Vonnegut said, more or less... "You are what you pretend to be, so you must be very careful what you pretend to be."

by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT

by ptwnblzr on May 15, 2008 9:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The physicality of the playoffs

Some blazersedgers are probably tired of hearing me harp on this issue. If you check out my past posts, my mantra all season has been the need for the Blazers to be tougher. It’s easy to forget just how physical the playoffs are. It truly is a different sport altogether-a kind of cross between regular season basketball and rugby. My concern is that KP-a former point guard—has constructed the Blazers’ roster without sufficient concern for this reality. No, you don’t need a bench full of “thugs.” But you need a team that is tough from top to bottom, including a few guys that absolutely no one wants to mess with.

I don’t share the concern of some blazersedgers about Greg Oden. I suspect he’ll prove to be plenty tough. And some others-e.g., LMA-I expect to grow tougher with age. Having said that, some of these guys may need to go before this team is ready for the rough test of the playoffs. It’s a jungle out there.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on May 12, 2008 5:41 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

These kids is darn big...

...and strong to the core.

The “Play Offs” are a test of “Strength & Will

"Always Willing, Ever Able" - rivbike.com
"A Dbl Shot O' Whiskey & A Pitcher O' Beearr" - BoilerMaker (It's Game Time Baby, see Ya Again, 'n the Second Half)

by BlueBooYay on May 12, 2008 9:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I listend to some sports stuff on the radio

I can’t remember who was saying it, but they were saying that basketball in the playoffs is hard. The said something like, “Imagine you were running the length of the court, and then doing a lay-up. Only now, you’re running the length of the court and there is a 250 pound man that is going to jump into you and probably smack you in the head or throw you to the ground.”

I could do it, but a lot of folks that read the Bedge might be intimidated. I live my life like Jean-Claude Van Damme, Steven Seagal, Dolph Lundgren, and Philip Glass. I don’t back down from a challenge, no matter how daunting.

"Reality is for people who can't handle Blazers Edge." - MiledAnimal

by tominhawaii on May 12, 2008 9:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Now I am curious

Do you have Seagulls in Hawaii?

"Always Willing, Ever Able" - rivbike.com
"A Dbl Shot O' Whiskey & A Pitcher O' Beearr" - BoilerMaker (It's Game Time Baby, see Ya Again, 'n the Second Half)

by BlueBooYay on May 12, 2008 10:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I had a friend who was depressed to the point of considering suicide.

She felt her life was going to hell in a handbasket, as the saying goes. So, anyway, she drove to the coast all by herself to try to think things through. As she was lying on the beach, weeping, a seagull flew over and pooped on her face. True story. She thought the whole circumstance was so hilarious that she came home and went on with her life. Seagulls save lives.

"We comin along." Travis Outlaw

by annthefan on May 13, 2008 1:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Seagulls

I like the message of Jonathan Livingston Seagull

Of those powders these muds went out.

by amlmart1 on May 13, 2008 3:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Nope

I gave someone directions once and said, “as the crow flies” and they didn’t know what a crow was. No Seagulls and no crows. No shortage of pigeons though.

"Reality is for people who can't handle Blazers Edge." - MiledAnimal

by tominhawaii on May 13, 2008 12:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

hahahahaha

I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the funniest Philip Glass reference ever made in the history of humanity.

by BlazersOrBust on May 13, 2008 10:46 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

possibly, 'cause it was good

but if i recall, philip himself has a whole page on his website devoted to philip glass jokes. so there’s a lot of competition.
however, you may still be right, as it’s unlikely that Jean Claude has ever been mentioned in the same sentence.

hmm, why out of all that did Jean Claude get caps?

by Section323 on May 15, 2008 12:30 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

hurryup

I bet that rings make your voice a little easier to be heard, and even a humble man will know his importance, so I guess when lucas talks, the org listens, at least a little. I’ll bet that the og enforcers been asked more then once what his opinion of this lineups “toughness” is. I know that with respects to certin intangibles, talent recognizes talent, and if lucas is confident, that might explain the lack of rumors associeted with the acuasition of a thuggish-ruggish.

If i hear concern from the front office, I will hit the panic butten, and start reading police reports looking for our very own mike tyson, till then I think this is a non-issue.

Boy, I sure hope I am not wrong on this one, couse I am wrong alot, just ask anyone who knows me.

"Could we make a deal right now to make us a 50-win team? No question," Pritchard said. "Will that get us a championship? That’s what we always have to evaluate."

As the great Vonnegut said, more or less... "You are what you pretend to be, so you must be very careful what you pretend to be."

by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT

by ptwnblzr on May 15, 2008 9:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

For what it is worth

Here is a great John Hollinger piece about the likelyhood of the Cav,Jazz, and Spurs winning their respective series (all being tied 2-2, home team winning all games). 17.5% chance (based on the past performance in th esame scenario). Good read

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=SpursHornets_080513

"Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss" Robert A. Heinlein

by 92wastheyear on May 13, 2008 11:45 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Dang

I looks interesting but I stopped reading. I said it in Dave’s playoff thread that I feel that history has nothing to do with the Spurs/Hornets series. I just don’t believe in that stuff, and I don’t believe in stats. It’s like asking God if he could created an SUV that he could not lift.

"Reality is for people who can't handle Blazers Edge." - MiledAnimal

by tominhawaii on May 13, 2008 1:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Oh wait

That was this thread. I hate it when work Bedge blocks me.

"Reality is for people who can't handle Blazers Edge." - MiledAnimal

by tominhawaii on May 13, 2008 1:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs


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