hypothetical Harris trade

by Sumito on Apr 6, 2008 7:57 AM PDT Comment 19 comments

I agree with those of you who are opposed to the Blazers getting even younger next year. In fact, with Oden and Rudy coming over I'm not sure we need another rookie at this time, especially at point guard. Remember, we've still got Koponen to groom. A veteran defensive presence at either the `1' or the `3' is what I'd most like to see for the 2008-9 season.

Is it too late to get Devin Harris? How about giving up Jarrett Jack, Travis Outlaw, and our #13 draft pick for him?

2008-9 salaries, according to HoopsHype:
Harris - $ 7,800,000 (last year of contract)
Outlaw - $ 4,000,000
Jack - $ 2,002,623
pick #13 - $ 1,739,160 (roughly - it's what last year's #13, Julian Wright, makes now)

So, it looks like the numbers match up pretty well. Would you do it?

Do you think New Jersey would? We know that Rod Thorn likes Jack. Along with Travis, with the #13 pick they should be able to get some frontcourt help in the form of Roy Hibbert, Anthony Randolph, or maybe even Kevin Love. Or Batum, Westbrook, etc.

Here's how our roster would shape up then (assuming Darius won't be back):

1st stringers:
Oden
LMA
Webster
Roy
Harris

2nd stringers:
Pryz
Frye
J. Jones
Rudy
Blake

3rd stringers:
Raef
McBob
Wafer
S. Rod
Freeland / 2nd round pick / tominhawaii

Is this championship material yet? Would we need to add one more piece in '09?

P.S. This is a great website.

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Pull the trigger on the deal?

Yes please.

55 votes

No thank you.

24 votes

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Good idea

This is what I'm hoping will get pulled off in the offseason. New Jersey is also projected to draft a few spots below us so we could possibly switch #1 picks in the deal and throw one of our many 2nd rounders, still giving us the opportunity to draft a younger big guy that doesn't need to start right away.

by DrivetheLane on Apr 6, 2008 8:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd even throw in all of our second rounders.

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by T Darkstar on Apr 6, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not if Westbrook is on the board at #13

Keep the pick, take Westbrook and keep Outlaw. Westbrook will be as good as Harris in 2-3 years when our championship window is open.

by Blazer22 on Apr 6, 2008 9:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

i don't think NJ does this

remember, esp. after Diop becomes a FA, the only permanent piece the Nets are getting from the Kidd trade is Devin Harris. I think they pegged him as a 'point guard of the future' type (and those are hard to come by). I could see how Rod Thorn likes Jack, but Jack and Outlaw plus a first round pick I don't think will be enough for Harris. If it was, I'd do it in a heart beat. If the consensus on this site is 'this is a great deal!', it probably is for the Blazers, but will the Nets see it the same way?

by dp8039 on Apr 6, 2008 9:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

well

i agree. it would seem only a little tough for us to part with outlaw. but you look at their roster, and they don't really need a guy like outlaw. they need a guy like pryz, or frye. and jack is not enough. so i don't think they would do it either. i wouldn't if i was NJ

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by winnerwinner on Apr 6, 2008 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Come on now...

Are you really advocating not drafting a pg based upon Koponen?

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by HurraKane212 on Apr 6, 2008 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Koponen's the Man

He served in the Finnish army.

Nature bats last.

by fisheyes on Apr 6, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Finnish army

Probably shoots straight from distance.
Able to rifle passes to the open man.
Obviously, strong defense.
(da dum) Able to Finnish at the hoop.

I just quit my day job.

I'm frequently right, but always certain

by jscot on Apr 6, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Serving in the military in Finland

Is compulsory for males at 18.

Don Nelson: We didn't execute our gameplan in the first half. What's the plan? Don Nelson: Hit threes.

by Dheepan on Apr 6, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Smoking in Finland army

I wonder if Pete had to quit smoking when he was in the army. I hope he didn't resume the habit when he got done with his stint. Maybe Marlboro can build a whole ad campaign around Blazer Euros when we win the championship. Let's see: Rudy, Pete, Freeland, Sergio, and maybe a couple second rounders drafted this year for the Euro stockpile. They could feature a different Euro Marlboro Man every week. Collect all six! Get cancer at no additional cost!

Nature bats last.

by fisheyes on Apr 6, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think it's enough to land Harris,

but I'd be for it if it was. There's no way Koponen plays for the blazers next year. He has more turnovers than assists in the Finnish league. We don't need two Jarrett Jacks, and it's debatable whether we need one.

by ranma on Apr 6, 2008 12:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe I am being dense...

but who the heck is S. Rod (3rd string)?

Also I really don't see anything wrong with drafting Westbrook, Koponen most likely wont be here next season and I don't think he is ready.

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by LaMarvelous on Apr 6, 2008 7:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

S Rod is Sergio Rodriguez

And Rod S is Rod Strickland. One is a chain smoking Euro and the other is a regular Amurrican.

Nature bats last.

by fisheyes on Apr 6, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A draft pick has no value

in matching salaries for a trade. However, your scenario would still work because it only needs to be within 75% plus/minus $100k.

I am not sure why Hoopshype lists only the $7.8M one year status of Harris but I have read that he is signed for more.

I also am skeptical that New Jersey will part with Harris for what we would be willing to give up. They move in 2 years to Brooklyn and need a solid core to attract an initial fan base. Harris appears to be part 2 of that core (with Richard Jefferson).

by lee3022 on Apr 6, 2008 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree

no way does Jersey do this trade. If they give up a starting PG for a backup PG/SG (JACK) and backup SF (TROUT) their fans will be pissed and Thorn is a good gm so no way does he pull this off for the Nets.

Strength over time is power!

by VinnyB on Apr 7, 2008 5:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

corrections

08-09 is the first year of a 5-year deal that Harris signed.
Our 2008 pick has no salary cap value.

That said, the salaries will match, but I don't see us getting Harris for that package. If we could, I'd do it

by douglast on Apr 7, 2008 9:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I still say that any deal w/ NJ will likely

have to involve us taking Vince Carter.

If Thorn really does like Jack, or thinks Marcus Williams is an NBA starting point, then he might consider trading Harris, so long as he;

sheds Carter's contract

and

gets back young talent in return

and

gets back draft picks.

Assuming Pritchard is really enamored with Harris and Allen is willing to pay the freight, this may not be a bad deal for Portland. Vince Carter as the primary scorer on the White team makes some sense. Teamed with Pryz, Blake & possibly Rudy, he'd get lots of touches and give the 2nd unit offensive punch.

by timg56 on Apr 7, 2008 10:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

KP has worked miracles before

and I would be extremely impressed if he can land Harris or Calderon.

If I'm NJ I wouldn't even sniff that deal unless I thought I could replace Harris with another top PG in this year's draft, like Westbrook.

That won't happen with the #13 pick, and for all this talk about Rod Thorn's mancrush on JJack, it's probably nowhere near Nate MacMillan's so I don't think he's crazy enough to make him their starting PG of the future. So for right now, if I'm NJ, I say no thank you and focus on improving my roster in other ways.

"Life is a meaningless sequence of events in between Blazer championships"

by broggerboy19 on Apr 7, 2008 1:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs