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Avery Johnson Out As Dallas Head Coach and Durant ROY

well looks like the axe fell quickly, .wow a 73% winnng record in the regular season and 23-24 mark in the playoffs,, well I bet he will get a job quickly.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/52258/20080430/breaking_news_johnson_out_as_dallas_head_coach/

can't say I'm not happy that Dallas went down so quickly. I don't like the mavs.

and no real surprise as Durant will win Rookie of the year!

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/52248/20080430/sonics_durant_will_get_rookie_of_year/

well next year it will be our turn to have another ROY, with Oden. can't wait until next year!

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ROY, with ODEN

...I like the sound of that.

Nice double meaning there.

Wherever you go, there you are.

by Majikj0n on Apr 30, 2008 11:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Double ROY with double MIP

With double three-peat NBA titles.

Where have all the flowers gone?

by bilingual octopus on Apr 30, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't forget...

We’ll have a double averaging a double-double (LMA, Oden), and another (Roy) averaging a triple-double.

Thats a double double, doubled by a triple double.

Other teams will be in trouble.

Wherever you go, there you are.

by Majikj0n on Apr 30, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

And we're so gosh-darned

adorable

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Apr 30, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

After we've cut a swath through the conference

the rest of the west will be nothing but stubble.

Next season look for: "50...60 wins", James Jones. "...I think we can win all 82 if we put our minds to it," Channing Frye. April, 2008.

by jorga on Apr 30, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

First we go Bam-Bam and then.....

Barney Rubble

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by 92wastheyear on Apr 30, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

This sounds like a job for...

...someone else. This kind of thing is intolerable, unconscionable, incomprehensible, and, of course inconceivable!

Vizzini: “Stop this rhyming, and I mean it!”
Fezzik: “Anybody want a peanut?”

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by T Darkstar on Apr 30, 2008 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine the rhyming being shot down by...

“One of Two Official Blazer’s Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season”.

I know it was absurd and ridiculous, but it was also funny in an idiotic sort of way.

I love it when Bedgers have fun together.

LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!

by LaMarvelous on May 1, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought I kept it going.

Sarcasm font’s absence strikes again!

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by T Darkstar on May 2, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

D'Antoni might be available.

But that’s the only way Dallas doesn’t end up worse off.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Apr 30, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to see Cuban

decide to make himself head coach. He has a big enough ego that he would do it. THAT would be funny.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Apr 30, 2008 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Who would of thought

that before the draft, that both Oden and Durant would BOTH win R.O.Y.

Granted the second hasnt happened yet but it is just a formality if you ask me.

by SpyderRyder on Apr 30, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Can Oden win the ROY next year?

Maybe we can answer this by seeing if Collison got any ROY votes after his roookie/second year

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Apr 30, 2008 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

It has been confirmed through the media

Since he played in no games this year he is eligable for the Rookie Of the Year next season

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by 92wastheyear on Apr 30, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has ANYONE ever won R.O.Y. after not playing the season after being drafted?

Well, yes, there’s at least one obvious example.
(I wonder if there are any others, though.)

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on May 1, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who was it?

I looked at the list and nothing jumped out at me

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on May 1, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

David Robinson.

Two years performing his Navy service time.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on May 1, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was he under contract?

It seems like you should be able to win if you were not under contract, but Oden was definitely making nba money last year.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on May 4, 2008 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Larry Jo Legend

Didnt play the year after he was drafted, but also was not under contract.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on May 4, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sabonis was runner up to ROY

not playing the season after he was drafted. And Oden/Rudy will tie and both fit the criteria.

Obama, Outlaw '08

by Sabonis4Ever on May 1, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

However,

I think Rose and Rudy will press him for the ROY title… as teammates.

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by T Darkstar on Apr 30, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to say that it isn't just a formality

with Rose, Beasley, and some other fine college players coming out, until I remembered that the other ROY candidates will be going to struggling teams while GO will be on a team that wins 50+ games. Team records always seem to matter so much to the voters on these awards. All GO has to do is stay healthy enough to play at least 65 games… hm, maybe it really isn’t a given that he’ll win it. Let’s just say it’s his to lose.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 30, 2008 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Although, he might not be given credit for improving his team.

Some voters might think any productivity from Oden is his team’s credit, not his.

That’s the only thing that could work against him.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Apr 30, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

We will be a 50+ win team

and in the playoffs, there may be a problem if Miami gets a top 2 pick, where they would have Wade, Marion, and Beasley/Rose. Only then would there be a chance as Oden will have the opportunity to have studied the game for a year and work on any deficiencies that he may have, while the other 2 have been busy playing ball this year.

Plus Oden has gotten so much hype the league wouldnt allow him not to get it. That factor, the fact that we will be the only team in the playoffs from the lottery and Oden should play at least 70 games and average 15/12/3/3 on .500% shooting and 80%FTs that added to his defensive presence will guarantee him ROY

by SpyderRyder on Apr 30, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulations are in order for Kevin Durant.

He had an amazing rookie season.

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by Ben Golliver on Apr 30, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn't say "amazing"

He played about as I’d have expected. He threw up a LOT of shots from Day 1, and he gradually got more efficient. But he’s got a long ways to go to even be the next Tracy McGrady—let alone the next Jordan (as many predicted). I do think Durant’s fun to watch and I expect he’ll play in a bunch of all-star games, but I’m not so sure he’s going to win a championship. On the other hand, I’d bet money that, barring injury, Oden will get there at least once. Even if his offense doesn’t develop as we hope, he should be dominant defensively within a year or so.

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by hurryup09 on Apr 30, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

come on...

this doesn’t need to be an oden vs. durant thing.

give the man his due.

one of the best seasons in nba history for someone his age.
great numbers for a rookie—any rookie.
look at their roster, who is he playing with to help carry the load?
improvement shown over the course of the season.
not to mention the worst owner in the nba, the worst team situation to be in… all handled with class and dignity.
all things considered it was amazing and more.
nobody did more with less in the NBA than KD this year.

the fact that he is only 19 is flabbergasting.

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by Ben Golliver on Apr 30, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh..Huh huh.. You said flabbergasting.

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by oderiferous emanations 74 on Apr 30, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't gasting the flabber!

I WAS COMBING MY HAIR!

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by QualityPie on Apr 30, 2008 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

OK, forget the Oden comparison

I still thought Durant had a nice rookie season, not an “amazing” or “flabbergasting” one. I like Durant a lot; he’s great fun to watch, and he seems like a great kid. He should continue to improve. But I agree with Mike Woodson that Horford had at least as good a rookie year. So did Roy the year before. Look how they helped their teams.

Yes, Durant did show growth, but on a veteran team he would have been LESS impressive, not more. Because his team was bad, he was allowed-even encouraged-to fire at will. I’m sorry, but there’s a lot more to basketball than scoring stats. Tracy McGrady is the NBA player whose game Durant’s most resembles, and look at his playoff record.

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by hurryup09 on May 1, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The competition was pretty low this year.

Especially since, with the vote coming before the playoffs,
Horford’s good playoff showing isn’t a factor.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on May 1, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

agree to disagree

i disagree completely.

good players look better and play better when surrounded by talent. look at kobe with gasol. look at chandler with paul. look at pierce with garnett. on a veteran team he would have a defined role, help from his teammates showing him the way, clear expectations of what he is supposed to do, and players he can rely on to help him. he had none of that and a coach who didn’t seem to care all that much: succeeding in those circumstances deserves recognition.

KD held up way better than B Roy during his rookie season, did so at a much younger age, with inferior teammates (as mentioned), and had to handle things as the go-to option instead of 2nd fiddle to zbo. despite all the knocks on kd’s toughness, he put up similar rebounding numbers to brandon and averaged both a block and a steal a game. brandon had more assists/game and he is a better passer than KD but he also had zbo. overall, for playing in 80 games, at 19 years old, putting up the numbers he did in the situation he did and with the teammates he did, i give that one to KD.

horford didn’t have any pressure on him and would not have been capable of doing the things KD if he were the first option. he was the third or fourth option on the Hawks, they play in a much weaker conference against inferior competition. no one is game-planning around Al Horford. he was a very good role-player and a true asset, but not nearly as impressive as KD.

the 2s and 3s in the western conference cannot be compared to the 4s in the eastern conference when it comes to overall skill level. durant was dealing with better players and better teams every night and he still got his.

put it this way: take kd and horford away from their teams and you might as well move the sonics into the d league; the hawks are still in playoff contention in the east.

there are areas for improvement (3 point percentage, offensive rebounding, passing) but the man is 19. nitpick all you want but he had better pro seasons at 19 than all but a few NBAers… brandon, al, and most everyone else was way behind his curve at 19. he hit game winners with the defense keying on him at 19 years old. how many people can say they did that? not jordan. not carter.

mcgrady’s struggles are his alone and don’t belong in this discussion either.

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by Ben Golliver on May 1, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Avery gone and Dallas sinking into the quicksand

I liked Avery. That he was picked by Don Nelson probably worked against him.

Durant exceeded my expectations with 2.4 assists, a steal and a block per game. His shooting % was better than many rookies but will improve – especially his 3pt shooting (28.8%). I thought he would shoot better than that but he likely was forced to shoot at times without a good look. I think he will continue to get big numbers (barring injury) because that sorry team just does not have many other scoring options.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Apr 30, 2008 10:26 PM PDT reply actions  

oh and we will also have

don’t forget Brandon will be going for the MVP this year so we will have a ROY, MVP and best 6th man!

GO BLAZERS! GO! DON'T FIGHT WIN! Get well soon Oden! Can't wait until Oden's revenge!

by blazerbrads1 on May 1, 2008 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

and Defencive Player of the Year.

In the NBA, on the other hand, the vast majority of NBA championships are won by teams led by a player who would be considered the best player in the league at the time, or among the top three players in the league at the time.

CP3+ODEN=DYNASTY

As the great Vonnegut said, more or less... "You are what you pretend to be, so you must be very careful what you pretend to be."

by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT

by ptwnblzr on May 8, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

We will sweep all the awards next year

GM of the year: KP
For convincing Rudy to come over and pay US $1mill just for the opportunity to play with these bunch of talented induviduals..
For compelling Derick Rose that it is his destiny to play in the Rose City, and refusing to play for any other team other than the Blazers only having to trade Jack .

Coach of the year: Nate
For turning Rudy into the most tenacious on the ball defender in the world, beating out Bowen, Battier and Camby for DPOY
For turning Brandon into the league All star MVP, league MVP and finals MVP
For somehow tricking the officials to let the Blazers play with 6 men on the court, magically finding playing time for all the players. Our starting lineup:

Rose
Roy
Rudy
Webster
LMA
Oden

White unit:

Blake
Sergio
Jones
Outlaw
Frye
Pryzbilla

MVP: Brandon
For taking the youngest team in the league, AGAIN to the finals and beating whoever it was in the east.

6th man: Travis AND Rudy
For being the 6th man on the floor on both the first and second teams, NO ONE is guarding them so they can rack up booku points, asists and rebounds.

DPOY: Rudy
Nate is such a good coach he teaches Rudy the Jedi mind trick to just have opposing players give Rudy the ball, who would of thought that 35 steals/game was possible??

ROY: 3 way tie between Oden, Rose and Rudy
Unprecedented in the NBA, the trio of Blazers share the rookie of the year trophy with each other. Oden coming in with 20pts, 15 reb, 5 blocks, 5 asts. Rose setting a NBA rookie record with 15 asts/game and igniting numerous fast breaks, and Rudy for shooting 200 3pters at a 65% clip and averaging 35 steals/gm.

Anybody waht to add anything?

by SpyderRyder on May 1, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Can we repeat this 15 years in a row?.

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by amlmart1 on May 1, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES

Paul Allen will come up with a youth serum and the entire Blazers roster will stay the same age physically, but their experience will increase.

I think we could pull something so that after the three way tie for the rookie of the year award, they would stop awarding it all together.

by SpyderRyder on May 1, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

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