Teams that will get blown up
by howlingfantods
on Apr 29, 2008 7:00 PM PDT
in summer 2008. Matters because we should be looking at players for these teams very carefully, there will be some nice pieces available in the market. We've got the assets that rebuilding teams love -- expiring contracts, young players on their rookie contracts or inexpensive second contracts, and picks we're willing to deal (since we don't need to get any younger).
1) Mavericks are d-u-n dun. Players of interest - Josh Howard, Brandon Bass.
2) Suns are probably getting blown up. Players of interest - surprisingly, not many. Not a big fan of Barbosa, hate Diaw despite that game 4. Actually, maybe because of that game 4, he could and should play like that every game.
3) Denver has to make changes. Players of interest - Linas Kleiza. Love that guy's aggression, overall game, and he's obviously got a serious work ethic.
4) Chicago, maybe, if Paxson starts panicking. Players of interest - Hinrich, Nocioni. I think these guys are better than their current rep, they're taking way too much of the blame for how messed up that team was this year. Love Noah too, and I think Tyrus could become something special, but it'd be pretty stupid of them to trade these guys away.
5) Pacers. Still can't get over what's happened to this team since the Malice. Players of interest -- obviously Granger. I think Jermaine would be an interesting trade to get some vet presence, and some insurance for if Oden takes a while to get back to 100%, although he's got a pretty bad contract.
6) Charlotte - not getting blown up but I think Dudley could be had for peanuts. If he keeps working on his physique, he could become a good two way player. Tough as all hell, too, and we could use a toughness infusion.
Did I miss any?
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I like Boris...
...if he brings it. I don’t know how he’d fit on our team though. Also, from Denver, Nene Hilario. Despite his health problems, he’s a tough-guy interior defender and monster rebounder / shot-blocker who can put the ball in the hoop from the paint. If we ended up including Channing or Joel in a deal for Jose Calderon or Devin Harris, I would love to see (a healthy) Nene come on board.
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by bforsythe on Apr 29, 2008 7:30 PM PDT 0 recs
Boris and Nene are both grossly overpaid and that alone would keep us from trading for them.
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by oderiferous emanations 74 on
Apr 29, 2008 8:01 PM PDT
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True.
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by bforsythe on
Apr 29, 2008 8:15 PM PDT
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Never mind...
...what I said about Diaw. Nice pass Frenchy.
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by bforsythe on
Apr 29, 2008 9:26 PM PDT
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Nene has a bad reputation as a bully in practices and often goes at players on this own team too hard. I’m pretty sure that’s not good from a chemistry stand point, plus I just dislike they guy.
by Mash on
Apr 30, 2008 9:21 AM PDT
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Funny you mention Klieza
we actually drafted him and then traded him for Jack, maybe they would return the favor? No in all seriousness, the only player I would want from the aforementioned teams is Hinrich and then only if he came cheap. I am also a big fan of Camby but he would not fit in here with Oden and Joel.
You also may want to add GS to the list as well and maybe, Boston??
by SpyderRyder on Apr 29, 2008 7:58 PM PDT 0 recs
RE: Boston...
Man, if Atlanta ends up bouncing Beantown’s big three (however unlikely) someone’s going tot be shot (duck, Danny!). Not only will they no longer be able to claim that they are glad they lost last year’s lottery, they will also be paying for this experiment for a long time – making any effective rebuilding a really, really long-term goal. Only a ring or two makes that whole thing worthwhile.
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by bforsythe on
Apr 29, 2008 8:14 PM PDT
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Atlanta,
is not getting blown up, but I would still love to have Josh Childress. He is an upgrade over any of our small forwards and seems like a really nicy guy. Plus he is WAY better on defense than Outlaw, Jones or Webster.
Atlanta is not deep at all and they could sure use the bodies. Maybe Jack, Webster, and our 13th?
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by Winchester on
Apr 29, 2008 10:16 PM PDT
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Ooph
Childress is decent, had him on my fantasy team, and he’d be a good 6th man.
Still, for this team, I like Webster better. We could probably get Childress for just Jack if we really wanted him, we don’t need to go overboard for a role player like him. He’s more all-round than either Outlaw or Marty, but both of their ceilings are much higher and are a lot better scorers than he is.
I’d agree that most of the guys on Atlanta are available, though. We don’t need him/couldn’t get him, but Horford is gonna be one of the best PFs in the league in the near future. He’s awesome.
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by Mortimer on
Apr 30, 2008 12:12 AM PDT
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I agree,
Horford is amazing.
Are you serious, Jack for Childress? Childress is rated the 8th most efficient SF in the league. The guy shot like 57% from the field, plus his hair is better.
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by Winchester on
Apr 30, 2008 12:47 AM PDT
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They got Bibby...
But they need a young PG still. Jack has more value than people here think. They still got a lot of forwards, and Josh, while efficient, doesn’t set the world on fire. He’s a good role player, but not a starter on most teams. He isn’t a great shooter, so he wouldn’t start on the Blazers for example.
I like Childress, but I don’t think he’s better than what Webster will become. Webster’s offense fits better.
Childress is good at knowing what he can and can’t do, which is why he’s so efficient. His shooting percentage isn’t because he’s a good shooter, for example—he just knows he’s gotta score on garbage plays and drives. He’s a smart player, which I like as well.
But with their lack of a young PG, Bibby’s lackluster play, and with Josh Smith and Marvin Williams and Horford locking down the forward slots for a long time, I’d say Childress is gonna remain lower on the totem pole there, and thus available for not much. Jack, Webster, and the #13 would be Pritchslapping ourselves.
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by Mortimer on
Apr 30, 2008 1:04 AM PDT
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Statistically,
the Hawks have done the best against the Celtics when he is on the floor for whatever that’s worth. Webster seems like he has a higher celing, but it’s hard to say as both are still really young. If I had to pick I’d still go with Childress.
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by Winchester on
Apr 30, 2008 1:13 AM PDT
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They SHOULD play him more
It’s just hard with Williams and Smith in the way. He IS a do-it-all-right-place-right-time guy, and they always make things happen to go your way. Like I said, I do like him, but I like Webster better. Of course, if we got him for cheap I’d be all over it… and while getting him for Jack is cheap, it wouldn’t really be useful and would cause an unnecessary logjam at the wing, what with Rudy coming over in addition to Trout and Marty.
Childress is 25, so pretty young, but that’s 4/5 years older than Webster and Childress (while he’ll still improve) is what Childress is. Maybe I am too in love with the IDEA of what Webster MIGHT become and should prefer the known quantity in Childress, but Webster’s shooting wins me over with the team we got. I’m a sucker for potential.
He’d be a great 6th man though.
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by Mortimer on
Apr 30, 2008 1:24 AM PDT
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I don't Know
Your first three teams all won over 50 games. Two of them probably just need a new coach and the Suns tried to go from a running team to a team with Shaq on the fly. I doubt any of those three will see major changes this off season. I’m not sure about the other teams. Larry Brown will definitely make some changes at Charlotte.
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by tominhawaii on Apr 29, 2008 8:50 PM PDT 0 recs
Last time Dallas
looked like they hit a wall was the Dirk/Jamison/Nash/Toine/Finley version of the team in 04. Everyone besides Dirk was gone within a year. They won 52 games in 04 and was a year removed from 60 wins and the conference finals. Nelly was also gone that year. Mark Cuban doesn’t keep trying something that’s not working, I guarantee they make major changes.
The Suns already knew their window was closing. It’s slammed shut now. They’re going to have trouble rebuilding—after the Shaq trade, their roster is full of aging guys who are breaking down and have terrible contracts. So they might not make much in the way of changes but it won’t be for lack of desire.
Denver is the worst 50 win team of all time. I’m not positive they’re going to completely blow up the team (i.e. whether they’ll go so far as to trade melo) but they’ve got to make huge changes to their roster. 1st round elimination for five years in a row culminating in an embarrassingly uncompetitive sweep isn’t going to help ticket sales.
by howlingfantods on
Apr 29, 2008 9:12 PM PDT
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I'd comment
but Howlingfantods pretty much covered what I think.
As for any players I’d be interested in…Josh Howard is the only one really worth going after aggressively, but it would be suicide in terms of the PR. Plus his performance in this years playoffs declines his stock in my eyes. Heinrich would be a great addition (Ben you’ve convinced me he would be a god fit), but only for a small price. Calderon is still my dream PG for our team.
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by CMCWizard on
Apr 29, 2008 9:56 PM PDT
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Yeah, I'm a little surprised
that you’re the only one who’s mentioned the Howard thing. Look, I live in California, where pot is basically legal (I think there are like 5 medicinal marijuana stores within three blocks of me), and although I don’t smoke, I’d guess that half the folks I know do. It’s kind of hard for me to make a big deal about Howard smoking pot in the offseason. The dude’s not stupid about it (like getting pulled over smoking a fatty or caught trying to bring it on a plane), so I kinda feel like why should I care?
He did have a pretty crummy series, but he’s definitely played well in the playoffs before. Everyone has bad series sometimes, so I’m not too worried about that.
by howlingfantods on
Apr 30, 2008 7:48 AM PDT
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Here's a Dallas columnist's view...
Short summary for busy people: Nowitski - forget about it; Bass - a keeper; Howard—him we can lose.
MAVERICKS’ EARLY EXIT LIKELY SPELLS SAME FOR AVERY
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by timbo on
Apr 30, 2008 8:27 AM PDT
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Do you think Portland is ready?
For an admitted pot smoker? You’d think it’d be okay in Portland of all places, but I think the fanbase is still too sensitive about anything illegal involving the Blazers. It’s too bad, because Howard is great and only sucked since Kidd came on board.
Last season I woulda wanted to move Heaven and Earth for a Josh Howard or a Prince, now I’m happy with Marty and Trout at SF and it isn’t a priority. I hope next season I’ll feel the same about our PG spot.
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by Mortimer on
Apr 30, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
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You can't talk about Howard's admission in a vacuum ...
If he were traded to a team in California, then yeah, it wouldn’t be a big deal. But given our team’s history of poor-character and guys and guys just making stupid choices, then I’d bet me left knee that there’s NO WAY we’d go after Howard.
I’m NOT saying you have poor character if you smoke pot, or even that it’s necessarily a poor choice for EVERYONE. I’m just saying that given our past history, the bar has been raised for character on this team, and KP is not even going to SNIFF a chance at walking down that road again.
I will say that admitting all this in the middle of a heated playoff series WAS a stupid choice by Howard, though, which just gives him another strike in my book …
by bfan on
Apr 30, 2008 9:48 AM PDT
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Yeah, I get what you're dealing out
But just from a purely basketball perspective, Josh Howard is perfect for us, like I can’t think of another player in the league that would be as perfect a fit for the things we need at that position.
by howlingfantods on
Apr 30, 2008 11:47 AM PDT
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Skills-wise, yes ...
He is everything we want and need in that position, though maybe a little old.
Thankfully, I think Martell has many of the same attributes. Improve dribbling and beef the D, and I’d say they’re VERY similar. And Martell is what, 6 years younger?
by bfan on
Apr 30, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
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Martell?
Hm, not sure that I see much of a comparison there, myself. Josh is a slasher who’s been working on his shooting, as opposed to a streaky pure shooter. Josh is a terrific defender and a very good rebounder for his position. Martell is a respectable and improving defender, and a below average rebounder. I think Josh is completely on a different level in terms of quickness and athleticism, too.
Although as you say, it’s hard to compare a 27 year old to a 21 year old.
Josh did have a down season, which is yet another reason why I think he could be gettable. He really seemed to suffer after the JKidd trade, his numbers were down across the board, in some cases very significantly. But the interesting thing is that he was actually having a very good year before the trade.
by howlingfantods on
Apr 30, 2008 2:09 PM PDT
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You don't know much about Josh Howard.
He is a quality young man and I’d take him in an instant. All he did was answer a question honestly. So he smokes a little pot in the off season. You’d eliminate more than half the league if you banned everyone who has smoked pot. (You might get 90% of the players if the criteria is you only had to try it to be gone.)
For me, Howard’s comment is an indication of character, not a lack of it. If he’s to be criticized, it should be on his PR and spin control skills, not his character.
by timg56 on
Apr 30, 2008 1:28 PM PDT
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Ummm ...
Did you read my second paragraph? Where I said that obviously smoking a little weed doesn’t necessarily equate to bad character? You should read it. It’s good.
And I agree that honest is good and usually accompanies good character.
But the point is that regardless of anyone’s personal perspective on weed-smoking or Josh Howard’s character in general, KP is not about to risk old ghosts rearing their ugly heads in Portland again. Nobody thought Damon was of bad character, but clearly his issues with marijuana added to the “Jail Blazer” image. Could you imagine the headlines if we acquired Josh Howard after he admitted to smoking pot?
“Jail Blazers REEFORMING” ...
KP won’t have it. He won’t be in same room so he can smell it. He won’t even be in the same building as it. Not gonna happen.
by bfan on
Apr 30, 2008 1:50 PM PDT
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The suns lost 4-1
But they came within a heart beat or two of taking two games in San Antonio. I don’t think they’ll be too quick on the trigger.
by raoulduke on
Apr 29, 2008 10:24 PM PDT
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From Charolette
i would be interested in Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton
by raging WebTed on Apr 29, 2008 8:55 PM PDT 0 recs
New York
With a new GM and a horrible “culture”, I see big changes.
I think that they look for draft picks and big expiring or close-to-expiring contracts.
Easier said than done. Bet they wish they had Pritchard.
Players with at least some value: Crawford (20 pt scorer) and Curry (low-post scoring big man). They have big, but not horrible contracts.
by parkinglotj on Apr 29, 2008 10:38 PM PDT 0 recs
Crawford...
is amazing. Not so good on defense, but he is capable of running the point . How about Rudy, Jack, Sergio , and Raef for Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson?
I wouldn’t touch Curry with a ten foot pole.
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by Winchester on
Apr 29, 2008 11:03 PM PDT
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I'm not interested in either player
This topic is about teams that will be blown up.
Now I’d be interested if a third team got involved. (ie NJ for Harris or Toronto for Calderon)
by parkinglotj on
Apr 29, 2008 11:26 PM PDT
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Harris! Calderon!
That’s really thinking outside the box. I have this crazy theory about trading Jarrett Jack you might want to hear about.
What’s wrong with Crawford? I think he could do well with the Blazers. He’s an upgrade over Blake (not on defense) and would play well off the ball from Roy.
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by Winchester on
Apr 30, 2008 12:18 AM PDT
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Crawford doesn't play without the ball
Crawford shoots ball. That all Crawford do. More shots please!
Crawford average 20 points a game on one of the worst teams in the league. His points did nothing. A volume scorer who isn’t really a good passer, is a bad defender, and does not ever in his whole career play within a team concept is the last sort of player we should be going for. Yeah, his contract is fine. His play is not.
He’s got talent, but it’s the sort of talent I like seeing on other teams, not ours. Same with Nate Robinson. Ugh.
Crawford is supposed to be pretty dang smart in real life, but he doesn’t play smart. He plays super ultra selfish. Nate is just a curiosity because of his height and dunks, but he is useless for a good team.
We should only be going for players of Harris or Calderon’s level, which is why their names come up so much.
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by Mortimer on
Apr 30, 2008 12:30 AM PDT
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I totally hear you.
The guy is in love with the jump shot and he is a poor defender, but… bad passer? He averages over five assists a game. You can call him a lot of things, but bad passer?
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
by Winchester on
Apr 30, 2008 12:56 AM PDT
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He isn't a playmaker
He isn’t all that great a passer or playmaker—he just has the ball in his hands all the time on that team and they have zero people who are even close to a playmaker without Marbury. AI, for example, isn’t a good passer and he always has good assist numbers.
You’re right though, 5 assists is 5 assists. Crawford always seemed to me like a guy who could be valuable to a team if he would just grow up and play like a teammate and not the Jamal show. I don’t know if he has any reason to change his style, or if he even thinks he should. He’s got the talent to be a better player than he is.
Because of that, I think he’s a bad fit. I don’t think he’d be very useful without the ball in his hands, and even then he’s only useful on a bad team, ala Z-Bo.
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by Mortimer on
Apr 30, 2008 1:09 AM PDT
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Yeah,
you might be right. He has still done some pretty amazing things (52 point game last year). If we could have him for cheap I wouldn’t say no, he’s probably a better threat off the bench than Outlaw.
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
by Winchester on
Apr 30, 2008 1:24 AM PDT
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If kept in the same role
If Jamal had the Outlaw role of an off the bench guy whose only role is to score, I’d think he’d do really well also. He’s a more versatile scorer than Outlaw; of course, Outlaw has that potential that wins me over and he’s a likeable aw shucks type of guy, so it’d hurt to see him go if he ‘twere to leave.
I believe Crawford has been the 6th man a few times in his career, and as long as he doesn’t expand his game I think that’d be his best role on a GOOD team. He can definitely score, and if that’s all he’s expected to do then you’ll be happy with him. If you expect him to be a starter and play within the team and live up to his talent, then he’ll be a disappointment… but as a sparkplug, energy off the bench, put the ball in the hoop Juan Dixon times 50, he’d keep fans happy.
You never know when Crawford will explode for a 40+ game, and he can be extremely dangerous. If only he’d grow as a player…
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by Mortimer on
Apr 30, 2008 1:50 AM PDT
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"You're mocking me, aren't you?" Buzzlightyear
You know I must have kids, when I quote cartoons.
by parkinglotj on
Apr 30, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
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Wow. Crawford and Curry??
If I modded this board, that would earn you a temp ban. Selfish gunners who are the major contributors to New York’s laughable defense and have no value other than their scoring. Remember Crawford’s 1 for 11 3 point shooting barrage when they came to visit Portland, the only reason they lost a game they outplayed us otherwise? Curry?? With his poor play and heart condition, he’s one of the least valuable players in the league.
by howlingfantods on
Apr 30, 2008 7:58 AM PDT
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Did you read both my posts?
Why in the world would we want Curry? Wow.
I was talking about tradeable players - not just on to our roster - think three team trades.
Temporary ban? Why?
by parkinglotj on
Apr 30, 2008 8:50 AM PDT
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Yeah I read both of them. They don't have any value
not just to us but to everyone else in the league, the only players with any interest are Lee and Balkman.
Sorry, the “temp ban” joke is from another sports board I frequent. Basically whenever someone says something outrageous or unrealistic, folks start saying “temp ban, temp ban!” Usually when folks talk about super unrealistic trades or ridiculous player comparisons.
by howlingfantods on
Apr 30, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
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Curry/Crawford talk earns ...
a LIFETIME ban if you ask me!
by bfan on
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Today's Toronto Sun -- Calderon likely back with Toronto
For what it’s worth, Colangelo is going to allow the process to unfold, which in this case involves an opposing team to make an offer sheet for Calderon, who becomes a restricted free agent on July 1.
There will be plenty of suitors, beginning with the point guard-poor Miami Heat, who also could use Calderon’s Spanish heritage to spread the basketball gospel throughout south Florida.
Colangelo understands and applauds Ford’s desire to be No. 1, but at the same time Colangelo is going to do what’s best for the Raptors.
“At the end of the day it’s how can he and Jose co-exist,’’ Colangelo said. “If, in fact, that’s a possibility.”
Colangelo then added some very telling words.
“It’s a very safe assumption that Jose will be back in a Raptor uniform.”
by parkinglotj on
Apr 30, 2008 8:56 AM PDT
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If Calderon is back, TJ isn't.
Not with his salary.
So I’d read into that T.O. Sun story, “TJ Ford is on the market”.
(Not that I’m interested in TJ Ford. Hunh. Might be. Dunno.)
[ goes off to search for the details on Ford’s contract ]
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by QualityPie on
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Ford
I took a new morbid approach to TJ Ford. I’d risk taking him because best case scenario he plays like he should. Worse case scenario, he medically retires like Darius. I guess there is the potential for him to just be injured and still on the roster. My apprehension with him is his neck thing, and that seems like it’s a medical retirement type injury. For some reason, I’m more willing now, to accept the risk.
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by tominhawaii on
Apr 30, 2008 4:05 PM PDT
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Don't think we want a player (Ford)
who demands to be a starter. Our team apparently earns their rotation ands supports each other in their roles.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
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Apr 30, 2008 10:44 PM PDT
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Yeah
I don’t know if he’s good for our team. I was just saying that a team either pays him and he does what he does, or he gets hurt, retires, then insurance pays him and he does not mess up the salary cap. I’m not as worried about him messing up the salary cap if he gets injured, as I once was.
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by tominhawaii on
Apr 30, 2008 11:07 PM PDT
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Calderon being a RFA makes the PG situation there interesting
While I am not well versed on RFA and the timing that is involved, I do know that the player is basically a free agent with their current team being able to match any offer that is made to the player. Where my knowledge falls short is in terms of cap rules for a RFA. If TJ Ford is still on the books and the Raptors haven’t made any moves, will their cap space come into play if a team makes them an offer that would push them well over the cap?
Should Toronto not be able to effectively match any offer during the off season, Calderon could be gone without any compensation. I think that this is not likely the case, and a sign and trade seems more likely of a possibility, in which case what are teams willing to give up to a PG with starting potential that just got signed to a huge contract after having a career year?
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by CMCWizard on
Apr 30, 2008 9:39 AM PDT
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There are no restrictions in matching an offer...
other than an owner’s willingness (or not) to exceed the cap & pay the luxury tax, if matching takes them over that limit.
by timg56 on
Apr 30, 2008 1:35 PM PDT
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The question is not can they match
(they can) but will they pay the luxury tax to do so? At the moment they are at $55M per hoopshype.com without Calderon. Luxury tax kicked in around $67M this year and maybe is a little higher next year. That seems to mean about $10M is as high as they can go, It is also higher than we can afford or offer without trading equal value on a sign and trade which still puts Toronto in the tax. Beyond the core guys I think KP will hold salaries down well below that level ($10M) for the role players.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
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Crawford and Curry
Crawford has an adjusted +/- this year of +10.2 pts per 100 possessions. That is the best on the Knicks by a wide margin, so it seems like he might be a descent player.
Curry has an adjusted +/- of -16.08, which is the worst of all players who get significant playing time in the NBA. He playing style resembles Zack Randolph, except that he is an even worse passer and a much worse rebounder. With his (lack of) skills, he seems more suited to playing in D-league than in the NBA.
by trk on
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Why not Dirk?
A trade for the big German build around giving up Raef, LaMarcus and a pick might be enough. Dirk’s weaknesses of rebounding and interior defense are things that Oden excels at and getting Dirk would add another shooting to the squad.
by tingeyga on Apr 29, 2008 11:39 PM PDT 0 recs
Brandon Bass would be perfect on the Blazers
Tough inside player off the bench.
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by blzrfan on Apr 29, 2008 11:43 PM PDT 0 recs
You Know
I don’t know if it’s a good idea to say a team is “blown up” since the tragedy from 9-11. I think it could be offensive.
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by tominhawaii on Apr 30, 2008 1:01 AM PDT 0 recs
Just in Case
I typed that in the old sarcastic font. Just about everything is offensive to at least someone.
Mahna mahna, (ba dee bedebe), mahna mahna, (ba debe dee), mahna mahna, (ba dee bedebe badebe badebe dee dee de-de de-de-de)
(repeats)
mah mama na mahna mah namwomp mwomp, ma mo mo mana mo, mahna mahna, (ba dee bedebe), mahna mahna, (ba debe dee), Mahna Mahna! (ba dee bedebe bedebe badebe debe de-de de-de-de)
(long pause)
...mahna mahna?
by tominhawaii on
Apr 30, 2008 2:13 AM PDT
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You obvioulsy haven't seen the Baltimore Orioles.
The only thing offensive about that club is how it feels for the fans to watch them.
by timg56 on
Apr 30, 2008 1:37 PM PDT
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Solid.
I don’t think the Suns will make that many changes.. Barbosa may be the only one.. other then that, they can’t really do a lot.
I don’t think the Mavs will blow up yet either. I think they ride Kidd’s contract.. I think you could see a few changes, but pretty much every team makes at least one change.
The Pacers, I hope, are blown up for their sake.
by Jason3123 on Apr 30, 2008 6:39 AM PDT 0 recs
Will a team "blow up" if they blew it already?
As I see it, the Mavs and the Suns have already blown it by making ill-advised trades out of desparation. Seems thery are destined to blow up, having already blown it.
Where have all the flowers gone?
by bilingual octopus on Apr 30, 2008 7:31 AM PDT 0 recs
The Shaq trade was not as bad as the Kidd trade...
...................................................... maybe not a GOOD deal, mind you, but neither was it an ill-advised catastrophe like the Kidd deal. Shaq has proved he can still play. The Phoenix guy that looked old in game 5 was Mr. Nash.
"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on
Apr 30, 2008 7:55 AM PDT
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We'll see next season how motivated Shaq is
He basically coasted this year in Miami as he was “nursing injuries” and only came on strong after the trade. Yeah Shaq can still play, but I suspect that he’ll be limping around more next year as he’s not going to be in the spotlight nearly as much next year.
Blazermania: back and better than ever
by CMCWizard on
Apr 30, 2008 9:42 AM PDT
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Don't forget the Memphis Fire Sale...
................................... they’ll blow it up after they blow it up after they blow it up if it saves ‘em some cash.
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"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on Apr 30, 2008 7:52 AM PDT 0 recs
Kleza was ours remember?
We traded him for Jarret “Jump Pass” Jack.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Apr 30, 2008 8:00 AM PDT 0 recs
It's true we drafted him
but it was a prearranged trade, it wasn’t like we drafted him for ourselves. Considering the disaster that was the 2005 draft, this was the least of our mistakes.
He was also a very different player a few years ago. He went from being kind of a lumpy too-small pf to being a very aggressive slashing SF. That’s what I mean by the work ethic, he’s completely reshaped his body and his game in a few short years.
by howlingfantods on
Apr 30, 2008 2:19 PM PDT
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I saw Kleiza standing around a lot on defense.
There was a sepcific play where he stood flat footed underneath the basket and just watched his man dunk the ball.
His arms were in that weird Tyrannosaurus Rex position. It was like he was too lazy to raise them all the way up.
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
by Winchester on
May 1, 2008 12:15 PM PDT
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