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Helping a Brother Out

Jacob wrote and wanted to know if he could pick our collective brains regarding the Blazers' marketing campaign for the recently-completed season.  I said sure...why not?  So here you go.  If you want to give a student a hand, fill out answers to any or all of the following in the comment section.

My name is Jacob and I am graduating from San Diego State University’s Sports Management MBA program this May.  As part of my graduate thesis I’m analyzing the Portland Trail Blazers “Rise With Us” campaign. 

Now that the season is over, please take a few minutes to complete the following survey.  Thank you in advance for your help!

1) Has the "Rise With Us" campaign engaged you and invited you to be a part of the story as it unfolds? If so how?

2) Was the “Rise With Us” theme was consistent across the platforms listed below? Why or why not? 

  • TV/cable segments
  • Website
  • Signage (grain silo by the Rose Garden, ticket box office elevators, in-arena banner, etc.)
  • Print (team poster, season ticket booklets, Rip City Magazine, etc.)
  • Merchandise

 

3) How does the “Rise With Us” campaign compare to the NBA’s “Where Amazing Happens” campaign?

4) Did you like the documentary-like, behind-the-scenes approach?” Why or why not?

 5) Do you feel that "Rise With Us" connects with values often associated with Portland such as “pioneers” and “innovators?” Why or why not?

6) Does "Rise With Us" show off the organization's pride in the entire team versus highlighting individual players? Why or why not?

7) Do you feel "Rise With Us” speaks to a young team with a bright future? Why or why not?

8) Please share any additional thoughts on the “Rise With Us” campaign.

 --Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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I'd love to help!

Good theme Jacob! Great school! I’m going there myself for my EE! So, as a fellow San Diegan, you probably know how little we get exposed to good basketball and have the flake show shoved down our throats constantly. I can’t answer most of your questions on that basis! But, i know that Portlanders are great, willing to help out, and that Blazers fans are even better than the average person in Portland! Good luck man.

written by the Blazer Thoughts artist formely known as "Scott R"

by saregister on Apr 24, 2008 9:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder how he's gonna quote one of us

And the internet scribe known as Mortimer brought up this point…
On page 32 Professor Jorga stated…
Mr. damir proclamed “I hate refs.”

Seriously though. People (read: me) buy things from the Blazers such as season tickets (section 331 row: H seat: 10), jerseys (Aldridge #12), and the like because they enjoy the product, not the advertising. If somebody needs to see one of the numerous RWU campaign ads to get interested in the Blazers, then the haven’t been fans for very long. And that is something I wouldn’t know about.

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 24, 2008 10:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Ready or not here we come

My wife found this slogan from a 2 years back interesting. She was sure that the marketing folks meant, “Whether or not the city of Portland is ready we are going to play basketball”, but she took it as “The players may or may not be ready to play at the NBA level, but here we are regardless”

by tingeyga on Apr 24, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

agree with Sabonis above, but heres my 2 cents anyway

1) I guess this is a no for me because I was 100% engaged with the team before this campaign started. They sort of invited me to a party that I was already at.

2) yes to all except maybe merchandise, I didnt see a lot of Rise with us T-Shirts…

3)both seemed a little corny in my opinion. I guess I will just say that neither effected how I feel about the blazers/nba in any way

4)I definetely like the behind the scenes approach, the more exposure I get about the blazers the better(at least with this likable team)...

5)Never thought about it like that before, so I guess my answer is no.

6)Yes, I definetely felt a team approach to the campaign. Everyone got appropriate exposure according to their influence on the team.

7)Yes. It definetely fit our young team well, it just seemed cheesy to me.

8)I definetely thought the organization raising a “Rise With Us” banner into the stands was way over the top, and a little painful to watch.

I hope that helps some. Good luck!

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Apr 24, 2008 10:23 PM PDT reply actions  

1. It’s a way to connect the seasons together. i.e. this season is part of something larger.
2. Don’t recall it on the website or merchandise, though it may well be there
3. Both are pretty good. “Amazing” has more variety and “awe”, but is a bit manipulative.
4. Wasn’t feeling it. Scenes seemed a bit contrived.
5. Didn’t get any association with Portland or the NW.
6. It’s very inclusive. “Us” seems meant to include the fans?
7. Yes, much better than the 2005 slogan, “Get high with us”.
8. The slogan is flawless. A bit of admission of past guilt; stresses optimism for the future vs. present success; asks for patience; stresses team. My girlfriend is in marketing and thought it was brilliant. The silo banner is great. Agree with previous poster that the in-game arena tie-ins were pretty lame. Maybe the overall campaign could’ve been a bit more lighthearted? Maybe each segment, pick a player and show a a couple scenes from elementary school, high school, college, pro, etc. Sort of development oriented.

by Engineering Problem on Apr 24, 2008 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

all right

1) The campaign has not made any difference in my interest in the Blazers. They had a slogan last year, too, and I cannot remember what it was. Will I remember this one in a few years? Probably only because of the silo controversy, if at all.

2) I think they have been consistent with the message.

3) I think the Where Amazing Happens campaign is probably more noticeable, as the music is a very strong identifier for that campaign, and they have a lot more teams and players and “amazingness” to highlight. Neither of them matters all that much to me, though.

4) While I think the behind the scenes approach would have worked fine with dozens of other possible slogans, it did work well for the “with us” aspect. I liked the tv ads- they caught my attention and I would stop and watch them even if I was fast forwarding through a recorded game. Probably because the first one I ever saw was Travis and his “Oh, my, there go the game!” Who wouldn’t like that? I also looked more up on the Blazers website. But again, that was more because of the human interest aspect than the “Rise With Us” aspect. Some were better than others.

5)The Rise with Us theme to me is much more about the youth of the players and leaving the sucky past behind than pioneering or innovation.

6) Overall, yes. But many of the ads did highlight individual players. I think that’s okay.

7) Yes.

8) Sometimes it feels like the marketing department is trying too hard. But then they’‘ll put together something like the video that played at the end of the Phoenix game (also a “Rise with Us” video), that summarized the whole year, and it was great.

by Section323 on Apr 24, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Asked previously

This was asked on a diary/fan post a while back.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/3/24/193047/232

Since I didn’t respond until kind of late, and Jacob may have missed my response, I’ll post it again (besides, I’m so enamored of myself that I like to repeat myself):

It’s useful for it’s purpose.

It was never meant for the committed fans. It is intended to communicate to those who were turned off by the “Jail Blazers” image that this is a new beginning.
It is intended to reinforce the good news: Brandon’s Rookie of the Year award, the drafting of Oden, the dumping of the troublemakers. The whole marketing approach is built around convincing Portland that we have a fresh start with the team.

By itself, the slogan would do nothing, but in the context of the other news that is seeping back into the public consciousness about the Blazers, it helps to reinforce the whole picture.

It’s only a useful slogan because it matches the reality. The team has had a new start, and is on the rise. The winning streak just reinforced that. The really brilliant marketing moves were not the slogan, but A) drafting Roy and Aldridge B) trading Zach C) winning the lottery and drafting Oden and D) winning 13 games in a row in December. That makes the slogan believable.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Apr 25, 2008 2:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Good luck with your thesis!

1. I’m going to feel connected to the team no matter what the campaign is. So no, it didn’t engage me any more that ANY campaign would. Did it work for your average Portander? I dunno. Several friends and neighbors (non-fans) didn’t understand it; they thought it was a joke. So I guess it worked in that I had to explain it to them and get them up to speed on the potential of the team (beyond Greg Oden).

2. I wasn’t really paying attention, so I can’t comment on consistency. I gotta say though, raising the banner at the home opener was one of cheesiest things I’ve ever seen.

3. I definitely prefer the “Where Amazing Happens” ads. Something about the music and visuals get to me. Simple, but effective.

4. No. They looked cheap and amateur, and most of the time the guys looked awkward. The only one I watched more than once was with Travis “there go the game” Outlaw—and that one I could watch a hundred times. Ads in previous years were more memorable.

5. No. It didn’t connect with Portland values in any way. If they were aiming for that, it flew right past me.

6. I liked the “us” part of the campaign simply because I prefer emphasizing a team rather than promoting stars. Yeah, the NBA is big on superstars, but it’s not my cup o’ tea. (I will be disappointed if future campaigns are centered on Greg, even though he’s a natural in front of a camera.)

7. Yes.

8. If I had to grade it, I’d give it a B-. Not too memorable (except for the silo controversy) but then, it didn’t backfire either. It was definitely overshadowed by The Streak, which excited fans and non-fans alike. That’s when my friends and neighbors started talking about watching games.

by Corvid on Apr 25, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Survey Says...

  1. I suppose it has. It acknowledges that the team has not yet “arrived” but is instead in the process of improving, and implies fan participation in the present is an important factor in the promised improvement.

  2. Difficult to say. I’ve seen it on TV, and it’s present on the website, but hasn’t been something I’ve paid much attention to in the latter format. I haven’t noticed it elsewhere.

  3. At first, I thought “Rise With Us” was somewhat lame, but after watching the “Where Amazing Happens” campaign, it really made me appreciate the relative unlameness of “Rise With Us.”

  4. Some of it. A lot of times, players are clearly reading from a script, and sound like it. The behind the scenes stuff where they actually catch team members interacting naturally is more interesting, as it helps fans see the players as people instead of just athletes.

  5. I hadn’t considered this, so evidently for me there’s no connection.

  6. To some extent, yes, the campaign’s language is inclusive, and oriented to the team rather than individual players. The team has other marketing efforts in place to showcase their marquee players, though.

  7. Yes. The implication is that this is a team that is building towards a championship, not one which is looking to put together pieces primarily through trades (like in the Whitsett years), so the attachment fans have to players are less likely to be betrayed by having those players dealt.

  8. The consensus is the team is building towards contention through the draft. The campaign is a good one, in that it acknowledged limited success this year while implying there’d be improvement and considerable future success.

by baduk on Apr 25, 2008 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

the grain silo advertisement is my favorite

1) Has the “Rise With Us” campaign engaged you and invited you to be a part of the story as it unfolds? If so how?

I was a Blazers fan before the slogan became “rise with us.” i think it is kind of a corny slogan but it seems original to me.

2) Was the "Rise With Us" theme was consistent across the platforms listed below? Why or why not?

TV/cable segments -yes
Website -yes
Signage (grain silo by the Rose Garden, ticket box office elevators, in-arena banner, etc.) -yes i can see the grain silo poster right out the window from where i work. sometimes i would get quite emotional upon seeing it.
Print (team poster, season ticket booklets, Rip City Magazine, etc.) -don’t know
Merchandise -don’t know

3) How does the "Rise With Us" campaign compare to the NBA’s "Where Amazing Happens" campaign? i like the music on that tv commercial “where amazing happens.” “rise with us” is a direct order, while “where amazing happens” is more of a description.

4) Did you like the documentary-like, behind-the-scenes approach?" Why or why not? yeah of course. any possible way of getting my blazer on. i guess i don’t really pay much attention.

5) Do you feel that "Rise With Us" connects with values often associated with Portland such as "pioneers" and "innovators?" Why or why not?  no because the team is going to be great, not invent anything new or go anywhere unmapped.  it will be a great "rising" i hope.

6) Does “Rise With Us” show off the organization’s pride in the entire team versus highlighting individual players? Why or why not? yes and no. there was one ad i saw on the side of the grain silo featuring Oden, Roy, and Aldridge but i don’t remember if that said ‘rise with us’ or not. i want the slogan next year to be “pursue everything,” but maybe they will go with something like, “it’s GO time.” i hope not because i like the way “rise with us” puts emphasis on everyone.

7) Do you feel “Rise With Us" speaks to a young team with a bright future? Why or why not? yes. i don’t know what else to say. it is evident to me what is meant by this slogan. especially because the blazers are getting better every year since having the league-worst record 21 wins not this past year, not last year. but the year before that i guess 2005-06? that was the year i got back into the blazers after i got disgusted with Trader Bob and the Jail Blazers. After Rasheed was traded.

8) Please share any additional thoughts on the "Rise With Us" campaign.
I have no additional thoughts about the Rise With Us campaign. i thought it was corny but it kind of grew on me i guess. well, now that the season is over i look back and get nostalgic. i can’t remember any of the previous ad slogans, so i’ll probably forget this one too.

by chickenmelt on Apr 27, 2008 4:04 AM PDT reply actions  

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