Nuggets at Warriors tonight
This is it, make or break time.
These two teams are tied. After this game, each team has 2 home games and 1 road game left.
If the Nuggets win tonight, they win the season series 3-1, and win the tie-breaker. The Warriors would have to finish ahead of the Nuggets to make the playoffs.
Dallas provides no hope for the Warriors. If the Warriors lose tonight, the best they can get is 50 wins, and Dallas already has 49 -- and they own the tiebreaker (head to head, 3-1).
If the Warriors lose tonight, put a fork in them. They're done. They would have to win out and either have Dallas lose out, or have Denver lose 2 of 3. Won't happen. If the Warriors lose, Dallas and Denver are in.
If the Warriors win, it's more interesting. It puts them up by one with 3 games left. Head to head, they would be 2-2. The next tiebreaker is conference record, and if the Warriors win, the two teams will have identical conference records (28-21). However, the only way Denver could then catch the Warriors is by winning one more game than GS, which would give them a better conference record. So if the Warriors win tonight to go up by one, and they then end up tied after 3 more games, Denver wins the tiebreaker. Denver still has a chance if the Warriors win tonight -- they need to make up one game on the Warriors over the next three.
What about Dallas? Dallas could still get dragged into the muck, if the Warriors win tonight. That would give Golden State 48 wins, maximum 51, and Denver 47, maximum 50. Dallas has 49 wins with four games left:
Utah (home)
Portland (away)
Seattle (away)
New Orleans (home)
Three of those could be very tough games. Portland wants that winning record, we'll come to play. Even Seattle is the kind of game that can trip you up (ask Denver). Fortunately for Dallas, the two really tough ones are at home.
What happens if Dallas stumbles and ends up in a tie with Denver for the last spot? Denver won the season series 2-1, and Dallas is out. Dallas needs two wins to be safe, or one win to be safe if the Warriors lose tonight.
What happens in a 3-way tie? Warriors are out, even if they win tonight's game. Basically, the Warriors lose on tiebreakers in any scenario, so they have to finish ahead of at least one of the other two teams. 49 wins will probably not get them in, and 50 might not.
Warriors remaining games (after tonight):
Clippers (home)
Phoenix (away)
Seattle (home)
Nuggets remaining games (after tonight):
Utah (away)
Houston (home)
Memphis (home)
The remaining schedule perhaps favors Golden State slightly, if they win tonight. I doubt Utah will be looking to do the Nuggets any favors.
If Dallas wins at home against Utah and the Warriors lose tonight, Dallas will have already clinched their spot when they come to Portland. If the Warriors should win tonight, and Dallas loses their home game to Utah, the Mavs will be feeling the heat when they show up at the Rose Garden. They will need two wins out of three games to be sure of being safe, and they won't want it to come down to the final game against the Hornets.
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Nice Diary and it is Confusing
The NBA should just take a mulligan and send the ninth team in the West, over to the East, and knock out Atlanta. They just have to do it, with the promise to fix the playoffs, in the off season. I'm sure Atlanta would rather have a high draft pick, over a first round exit.
I just wrote an off topic American Idol diary. I will save it for another day.
T'warted!
I'm trying to make that the new "pwned."
by tominhawaii on Apr 10, 2008 5:11 AM PDT 0 recs
Right
Why?
I hate to ask, because the very last thing I want to do is encourage off-topic American Idol diaries. Really. American Idol reminds me more of diarrhea than diary.
But I don't see why you have been t'warted, and aren't posting it.
And I want to see why. Badly. So I can do it again, actually. American Idol diaries should always be t'warted.
Just my opinion, of course. For now.
Until I rule the world. Then it will be LAW.
by jscot on
Apr 10, 2008 5:17 AM PDT
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Easy
by tominhawaii on
Apr 10, 2008 6:28 AM PDT
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I will read it
by JTDuck22 on
Apr 10, 2008 8:59 AM PDT
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What's the difference
by jscot on
Apr 11, 2008 12:50 AM PDT
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American Idol teaches wonderful life lessons
I find great humor in the idea that people love Simon because they find his honestly to be a novelty that they rarely experience in their own lives. Can you imagine? Honesty as a novelty act.
Anyway, American Idol is important to me because rather than biochemists, professors, or physicians, we need more pop stars.
by leeroyjenkins on
Apr 10, 2008 10:11 AM PDT
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This WILL BE A GREAT GAME!!!!!!!!!
by blazhead on Apr 10, 2008 12:11 PM PDT 0 recs
Go Warriors!
by fisheyes on Apr 10, 2008 12:59 PM PDT 0 recs
Go Nuggs
by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 10, 2008 1:28 PM PDT 0 recs
But ya want Golden State?
Golden State should be decent at the very least with who they got now, and if they get a lottery pick they could solidify their future past Baron even more solidify-eee-er. For the sake of keeping our competition down, I'd rather they make the playoffs and stay mediocre.
Am I right am I right or am I right? I'm right.
Besides, we're winning this fool lottery thang and plucking us the sweetest Rose and pollinating his petals with our baskie-ball juices, or however the draft works. I'm not a GM.
To sum up: Nuggs in lottery means they maybe tear the team apart and get Karl fired, making them weak for a few seasons (possibly). Golden State in lottery possibly makes them more than mediocre in a few years, depending on who they get to go alongside Monta and Wright.
Oh it doesn't matter we're better than all these chumps. I just wasted my own damn time writing this, and yours reading it! Sorry, yo.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Apr 10, 2008 5:13 PM PDT
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Hey Mortimer, where've ya been?
Somehow I can only imagine our players going to the Eastern Conference, not the west where we'd have to see them.
by Section323 on
Apr 10, 2008 8:26 PM PDT
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lousy trade that doesn't work
by poster on
Apr 10, 2008 9:16 PM PDT
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Oh, I don't care about the trade itself
Actually, I just wanted to say hi to Mortimer, and this thread was about Golden State.
by Section323 on
Apr 10, 2008 10:35 PM PDT
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Poor Goldy State fans...
I've been busy with real life stuff, and didn't even get to watch the Blazer/Laker game till the next morning. That proves how busy I was, because usually I'd watch THAT game (especially since we were at home) over anything in the whole wide world. The game was worth the wait and we won because I was responsible (like a big boy) and did what I was supposed to do instead of watching the game live on TV, so it made it all the sweeter.
That trade suggested on Goldy State was silly juice... they tend to have a lot of homery trade suggestions on that site, though I do like GSOM a lot. Patrick O'Bryant can be had for next to nuthin if we really wanted him, because the Dubs haven't picked up his ROOKIE CONTRACT, showing how much faith they got in the 7 foot kid. So him plus Bellynelly, who SUCKS-- a LOT, for Jor-El (soon-to-be best backup in the NBA) and Jack (still highly regarded outside the 'Bedge), is a funny funny ha ha really dumb idea. It sure would be nice for the Warriors, of course, but fortunately Pritchard isn't a sleeper cell Dubs secret agent... I hope.
KP did play for the Warriors a lil' bit, didn't he? Hmmmm.... he is a loyal guy, we all know that to be true. Could his entire meteoric rise through the scouting ranks to his current GMship just be a ruse to pull off the blockbuster to end all blockbusters ever, and send Joel and Jack to Golden State for garbage? The NBA would be flipped on its axis, never to be the same again. We'd have to fire KP after the deal, and he'd go back home to the Bay Area and take a role on the front office there, but with Joel and Jack to build around they'll soon be the dynasty to reckon with, and we'll be stuck salvaging what's left of our wrecked roster. If only the Blazers signed KP to a 10 day contract 15 years ago :-( :-(
If I was a Golden State fan, I would probably try to convince myself that we were never gonna win a title with this current team and getting young talent in the lottery will only help us in the long run. But, the playoffs are very important to a long suffering fanbase, and we've been very spoiled in Portlandia. The playoffs were always a given growing up, and will be a given next year and beyond, so missing it for a few years means almost nothing. To the Dubs, though, it's all they got. Missing the playoffs with near 50 wins really, really hurts.
They still got a chance, but they controlled their own destiny and didn't come through. It's incredibly fun to watch, but Nelly Ball isn't made for championships, or even the playoffs. Since it's destined to ultimately always lose, I wouldn't want it for my own team. Golden State fans might realize that now, and hope for a change. I like watching them, just like I enjoy watching guys like Arenas or Iverson, but their style isn't the style that will win in the end and while fun at times the disappointment in the long run sours the good times permanently. It has worked thus far in the Bay because of how horrible they had been for so long, but after last year the expectations have been raised and just being fun and decent (but horribly inconsistent) just isn't the same anymore.
My bizzay-ness will last for a few more weeks, but I'll still always make time for the Blazers Edge. How could one not do so?
This long winded rambling post is my way of saying "howdy" back. How ya been? Were you at the thrashing of the Lakers? Haha, they suck so bad at basketball and we're so good at basketball it's funny to my mouth which says haha out loud.
Obviously I hate that team, but I think I can be objective with their title chances. They simply are not good defenders, especially Gasol... and Boozer, Amare, Duncan, Dirk, Shaq, Kenyon Martin, West, every single PF or Center will absolutely DEMOLISH them in the playoffs and I don't see how Bynum will be much help when he hasn't even been cleared to practice. Their crowning by the pundits has been very premature. They just aren't a good defensive team.
Kobe is a great defender, but he simply isn't as good as he was last year because of his offseason knee surgery. Roy was killing him one on one in a game the Lakers needed. "They" say he is just trusting his teammates more, but I see him as having lost half a step. He's got the other nagging injuries right now, true, but it has seemed this way all year. It'll only get worse in the playoffs.
Obviously they can score, but they just don't got the defensive chops to win a 7 game series even if Bynum is Bynum again right off the bat. He can't stop the best bigs in the west either.
For basketball karma's sake, I'll try not to feel too much schadenfreude when my prediction comes true. I have no idea who will win the west ultimately, but it better not be the Lakers. I'd hate to have to root for the Celtics to win, because good lord that would be annoying.
Hello!
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Apr 11, 2008 12:45 AM PDT
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"homery trade suggestions"
by jscot on
Apr 11, 2008 12:56 AM PDT
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Seriously
Since we're giving up so much and just getting a draft pick (which might not even work out, do you know how many busts there have been in the NBA draft? Dozens!), they'll have to take Raef off our hands. Kansas just won the NCAA championships, and as a Kansas alum Raef can teach the Heat all about getting back to the Finals. You can't underestimate the heart of a champion and the intangibles his Kansasness brings.
If we throw in Miles, we'll open up a roster spot for Chris Paul or Lebron to sign for the MLE in a few seasons with our cap space.
The best thing about all fan run sites is that it is the only place an educated NBA fan (such as myself, natch) can dazzle fellow fans with amazing, never-been-thought-of-before-not-because-they-are-idiotic-but-blindingly-ingenius trade ideas. I don't get tired of reading 'trade blank for blank' posts, because they reveal how much more we know about other teams' rosters than anyone else does.
If the Heat insist on keeping their pick, we can always get Memphis pick because they are trying to position themselves to sell the franchise and taking on rookie contracts makes no sense. Joel Freeland and Wafer's expiring deal works for them, as it means they don't need to pay anyone and be more attractive to potential buyers.
Trades!
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Apr 11, 2008 1:13 AM PDT
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Well
The real problem I have with your post is that you said Chris Paul >or< Lebron. Obviously, we sign CP with our MLE next summer, and Lebron with or MLE the following summer. I'm not sure, exactly, how we'll find enough playing time for CP and Rose (who we're getting in the draft, of course), and since Travis and Martell will both be all-world by the time we get Lebron, that creates a problem, too, but Nate will figure it out.
Maybe we'll intentionally fall behind by two until the last play and then tie it up every time to go into overtime. If we take every game to three overtimes before winning, that helps get more minutes for all of our superstars.
Have you figured out how to get the big guy from Orlando yet? Joel is a nice backup for Greg, but we could do better.
by jscot on
Apr 11, 2008 1:35 AM PDT
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Laker game
It was the best game ever since the last Laker win.
Really a lot of fun, though. It looks like it will be my last game attended this season. My aunt is in town and stealing my ticket to the Dallas game. I don't mind though, because I think we will lose that game (unless Dallas shuts it down a little before the playoffs, but I think that would be silly of them), and I would like my last Rose Garden memory this season to be the lovely win over the Lakers.
So I guess the GSW trade suggestion was akin to our Travis for Chris Paul suggestions. A fan can dream.
by Section323 on
Apr 11, 2008 10:23 AM PDT
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love the GSW crowd
by soulja2boy on Apr 10, 2008 5:40 PM PDT 0 recs
The posters on Golden State of Mind, however,
by Section323 on
Apr 10, 2008 8:29 PM PDT
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Ah, easy to understand...
Bring on the playoffs, we have our 8th team.
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by timbo on Apr 10, 2008 10:34 PM PDT 0 recs
man f GSW
by dsx460 on Apr 10, 2008 11:59 PM PDT 0 recs











