(super)Stars win Championship? Nope
We've heard that line a million times: it takes a superstar to win a championship. This just doesn't seem true to me. Sure, they're usually there, but there's superstars all over the place that have yet to win. Think Kidd, McGrady, Kobe -Shaq and roles, Garnett, Nash, Malone, Stockton. Now, think of the Superstars that have won: Kobe +Shaq, Shaq, Duncan, Wade. What about the Pistons? There's no discernible Superstar on that team. Sheed could have been, but he's not. Billups isn't. The supers that won championships also happened to have freaking awesome backup role players. Do the lakers win in 2000 without Horry and that umentionable greasy haired guy? I don't think so. Saying a superstar wins championships is like saying a light bulb lights a room; it's apparently true but relies on other necessary conditions. THe room has to reflect the light otherwise there's nothing to see. A superstart can't win a championship by themself just like a light bulb can't light a room without reflection. But the room can relfect light from other sources jsut like a team full of role players (the pistons, very good ones of course) can win a championship.
Stars shine bright, but they don't win championships. They win dunk contests! TEAMS WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. The consistent factor in winnning it all is that your team OVERALL is very good. Superstars may raise the ability levels of the other players, but those other players need to make shots like Horry at the buzzer. Look at what Miami did to their roster. They kept the supes but lost the roles. How're they doing? Shaq didn't even feel like playing for them after that.
The reason I'm posting this is because I've heard it said that we don't have a superstar and that we need Greg to be that. How many of you think this is true? Do we really need someone to take over the game? Do bail us out? Seems like we have that potential already. Why do we need someone that draws all the media attention, makes flashy plays, whines, makes those dumb "I'm a badass face" a la LeBron? Why is that important if we have a higher total level of talent and desire?
A team leader is different from a supe. A leader inspires players, makes them practice harder, play harder. A supe may be that, but it's not necessary. Duncan and Garnett are both leaders, but Garnett is an unbearable jerkwad while Duncan is surreptitiously whiny but couth. Do we need leadership or stardom?
This is kind of a rant, as pride in the NBA is at an utterly unjustifiable level. A superstar like LeBron would be much better to be proud of an accomplishment like winning a championship rather than is affinity for the Yankees, his privelledged lifestyle and relationship with an equally hubristic rapper. I hate superstars. I'm a hater. I said it.
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agreed
by blindnil on Mar 21, 2008 3:31 PM PDT 0 recs
What about '99?
Kind of fun to remember those two in the middle together (especially defensively) and draw parallels to Oden and Aldridge.
by Devenex on
Mar 21, 2008 4:15 PM PDT
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A Superstar with stars
We know who the stars are, but if you look at our current line up, the role players that will help take us to the next level are Pritz, Jones, Outlaw. They have the mental toughness to step up when it counts most, the others are still unknown.
There are those players that can play great on bad teams, but will not help win championships, Zbo comes to mind. The can fill the stat sheet, and will single handed win 20% of the games but will never take the next step. I see a couple of our players that could potentially fall into the catagory.
by lonevoiceofreason on Mar 21, 2008 3:52 PM PDT 0 recs
Best Diary Ever
by tominhawaii on Mar 21, 2008 4:35 PM PDT 0 recs
At least I'm here,
by T Darkstar on
Mar 21, 2008 5:07 PM PDT
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And who cannot apparently use the correct article.
by T Darkstar on
Mar 21, 2008 5:11 PM PDT
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This is why I´m learning English here.
by amlmart1 on
Mar 25, 2008 3:08 PM PDT
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Roy, Oden Aldridge will become superstars.
by raging WebTed on Mar 21, 2008 11:23 PM PDT 0 recs
I'd disagree
- Spurs - Tim Duncan
- Heat - Dwayne Wade *
- Spurs - Tim Duncan
- Pistons - None
- Spurs - Tim Duncan
- L*kers - Mamba/The Big Elbow
- L*kers - Mamba/The Big Elbow
- L*kers - Mamba/The Big Elbow
- Spurs - Tim Duncan/David Robinson
- Bulls - Duh
- Bulls - Duh
- Bulls - Duh
- Rockets - Hakeem Olajuwon
- Rockets - Hakeem Olajuwon
- Bulls - Duh
- Bulls - Duh
- Bulls - Duh
- Pistons - Isiah Thomas
- Pistons - Isiah Thomas
- L*kers - Magic
- L*kers - Magic
- Celtics - Bird
- Lakers - Magic
- Celtics - Bird
- Sixers - Julius Erving
- L*kers - Magic/Kareem
- Celtics - Bird
- L*kers - Magic/Kareem
** May not live up to superstar status by the end of his career, but he was during the playoffs that year even if only by will of the whistle
That's one exception (maybe two) in 27 years. The only reason the Pistons were able to buck the trend is because all five of their starters were quality stars, and their strengths/weaknesses matched and covered for each other absolutely perfectly (that could be a whole other lengthy post of its own).
by Gargen on Mar 21, 2008 11:39 PM PDT 0 recs
stupid auto format
by Gargen on
Mar 21, 2008 11:40 PM PDT
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Look
by RipCity on Mar 24, 2008 6:13 PM PDT 0 recs









