Sheed is not impressed with us.

by OCBlazerfan on Feb 8, 2008 8:04 AM PST Comment 39 comments

This doesn't surprise me. He has always said what is on his mind. Hope Nate can use this as ammo tonight. I guess that I shouldn't take it personal because Sheed is just being Sheed. But I do.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080208/SPORTS03/802080386/1051

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Sheed

I hope he enjoys getting bounced from the playoffs every year.

Formerly known as Junit3123

by Jason3123 on Feb 8, 2008 8:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

And winning the championship

And actually going to the playoffs.

by robrun2 on Feb 8, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

This is better than 000000000000000000:

(quote)

Wallace said he hasn't been too impressed with the Blazers' rise because "they haven't done anything. They went on a little win streak, but when they have a better record than when I was there, that's when they'll have done something."

The Blazers' best record with Wallace was 59-23 in 1999-2000, meaning they'd have to go 31-3 the rest of the season to meet his approval.

(end quote)

from the above-cited...

"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08

by timbo on Feb 8, 2008 8:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Sorry about the OOOOOOOO

I was late to work. I hope he get's bounced this year by King James again.

by OCBlazerfan on Feb 8, 2008 8:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

well

As long as Boston doesn't come out of the east I'm happy.

I was also happy for Sheed when he won a ring with the pistons. Say what you want about Sheed's character, the guy can straight up play - and at both ends of the court. The pistons also play the game the right way.

Of course he isn't going to say, 'wow the blazers are the darlings of the NBA - I tivo all their games!'

by WALKING on Feb 8, 2008 8:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Who cares

Detroit got beat by one player last season. In the playoffs. In the EAST. When it counted.

by leeroyjenkins on Feb 8, 2008 8:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Sheed didn't say anything

that isn't true.

lickety-brindle

by Billy Ray Bates on Feb 8, 2008 9:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Well, except that Portland has defied all expectat

ions. That they've had the longest streak in the NBA. That they are in the PLAYOFF HUNT IN THE WEST. That they are light years ahead of where anybody predicted they'd be.

So yeah, they've done something. It might not be the NBA Finals, but it's something.

And quite frankly, Sheed hasn't done a damn thing in this league except go to a stacked Pistons team and ride their coat-tails to a ring - 4 years ago.

by leeroyjenkins on Feb 8, 2008 9:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What the Blazers have achieved this season

is fantastic for the city and the franchise. We are all excited about this team's future for good reason, and the record to date is a huge step forward from last year.

But even taking that into account, what's so special about the 10th seed in the west to a team with their eyes on the eastern conference title and beyond? Especially before we have even gotten to the all-star break.

As far as Rasheed Wallace goes, he has done enough to earn far more respect than most people here in Portland are willing to give. He does have some obvious faults, but you can't find me a person who doesn't. All the while he was a huge beacon of light on the court for years on an otherwise disappointing Blazers team. Then when he did finally get out of the cesspit that was the Blazers organization under the previous regime, he took his team to the title and has helped keep them in contention ever since. That's a better resume than most NBA players can post.

I wish I didn't have to defend Sheed to Portland fans.

lickety-brindle

by Billy Ray Bates on Feb 8, 2008 9:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

These are the kinds of things the Blazers need to get into their heads. They haven't proved anything, I hope they see that, and I think they do.

Plus, Sheed did good things (On the court) in Portland and I respect him for that, plus he's a heckava player.

GO BLAZERS!!!!

by timanator421 on Feb 8, 2008 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Blazers have at least proven

that they are no longer an easy mark on an opposing team's regular season schedule. That's a great place to start as long as it's kept in perspective.

It also helps explain why Sheed would downplay Portland's success so far this season. It's a part of getting his gameface on and showing everyone he's not going to come out intimidated or awed in the slightest against a team so far down in the standings compared to Detroit.

lickety-brindle

by Billy Ray Bates on Feb 8, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Huh?

"As far as Rasheed Wallace goes, he has done enough to earn far more respect than most people here in Portland are willing to give."

Like ducking from the spotlight despite being the obvious best talent on the team? Like continually having run-ins with referees, losing his cool, throwing towels in his own teammates faces, etc.? Like completely disappearing in the middle of the biggest choke in team history?

"he took his team to the title and has helped keep them in contention ever since."

And by "he took his team" surely you mean Chauncy Billups, Ben Wallace, and Rip Hamilton.

I think Rasheed is immensely talented but in a way, never reached his full potential as a player because of his own mental limitations.

by Scorcho on Feb 8, 2008 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Beacon of light? Perhaps he is a beacon of light

from the locker room when he is getting tossed out of elimination games and his team is getting blown out. That was LAST SEASON!

Yes, he can play. No one desputes that. But he doesn't play to his potential night in and night out and that is not ok.

I'd rather have the hustle guy who may not be as talented but puts it all on the floor EVERY NIGHT. Not, when he feels like it.

And I'd rather have a guy who doesn't second guess the coach publicly and refuse to participate in team huddles when he gets his diapers in a twist. Again, this was LAST season.

I am not saying Sheed is all bad. But he is not the type of player I prefer to root for.

by jferg on Feb 8, 2008 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't compare it to a title

but it's something.

I suspect Rasheed is resentful that nobody wanted anything to do with the franchise while he was here, and now the city is showering it with love and kisses.

by leeroyjenkins on Feb 8, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sheed's bad outweighed

his good, plain and simple. His good outweighed his bad initially, what with 2000 and the-ever-so-close-game-to-no-be-mentioned. Then, it started to snowball. He racked up tech after tech (again and again), had the Donaghy incident and the hotboxing the Hummer incident. At least Damon, who had plenty of issues, seemed contrite and bound to reform himself. Sheed never did, and to me that seems to be his lasting legacy, a man who knew his faults, but chose to highlight his accomplishments, no matter how fleeting they were. Don't get me wrong, Sheed was a helluva player, night in and night out. The problem was that he was getting paid bank and did not show up consistently. He had a chance to be an elite superstar, and he traded it for his way. If that's what he wants, well good for him.

They are like a vampiric Kobayashi - Classic Dave on the Knicks, 2/1/08

by Rodendridge on Feb 8, 2008 10:36 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

My take always was that

Sheed wasn't mentally strong enough to avoid letting the multitude of problems the organization was having at the time affect his mindset. He has flourished in Detroit where they didn't have such a disjointed franchise from the top down. Rasheed Wallace may sometimes let his emotions lead him to make mistakes, but I've always been convinced he tries to do the right thing by those he cares about and is a good teammate.

When he left for Detroit I had mixed feelings:

Glad for him to be able to get out of a terrible situation, and hopeful that he would have success.

Relieved for the team cause I knew it wasn't going to work out with him here. Disgusted at the organization for letting it come to this.

Extremely disappointed because I knew it meant giving up on having anything other than a lottery team.

Rasheed Wallace: Possibly the most misunderstood personality of the NBA.

lickety-brindle

by Billy Ray Bates on Feb 8, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Poor 'sheed--so misunderstood

Actually, this guy is very easy to understand. He's an infantile personality trapped in a champion's body. For all his talent, Rasheed Wallace is a loser. His one championship was a fluke; he joined a contender late in the season, allowing him to be a glorified role player. Did he help put the Pistons over the top? Absolutely. But after that season, predictably, the Pistons came to depend on 'sheed--just as the Blazers did before them. That's the kiss of death, because you can't build a solid structure on a shaky foundation. We all saw that in last year's playoffs, when 'sheed--characteristically--melted down when his team needed him most.

As for the Blazers, sure, they haven't "done anything" yet. Emphasis on the word "yet." This team is progressing way ahead of schedule, and 'sheed knows that. Ironically, one of the keys to the Blazers' bright future is LaMarcus Aldridge--the mirror image of 'sheed at the same age, but minus all the baggage.

The mature LMA will possess 'sheed's champion's body, but with a champion's personality to go with it. Add Brandon Roy & Greg Oden, mix in solid coaching and talented, team-oriented role players, and you've got a perennial contender. Within a couple years, the aging 'sheed and his inane pronouncements will be completely off the NBA's radar. Everyone's focus will be on trying to stop the Portland Trailblazers.

"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Feb 8, 2008 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't be bitter

just because the Blazers had their head in the sand so deep that they put Wallace in a position to fail more than anything else for most of his time here. How can you honestly say the Pistons championship was a fluke? They have stayed at the elite level in the league since then, and even though they haven't gotten another title it is extremely difficult just to remain a serious contender for as long as they have.

Thanks for helping support my argument.

lickety-brindle

by Billy Ray Bates on Feb 8, 2008 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Completely agreed!!!

It is very hard to remain near the top like that as the Pistons have. Or, it WOULD be hard if any of their entire core had changed. Do you hear yourself Billy? I am not trying to be the male genitalia here, but Rip, Chauncey and Prince have all been there and complement each other well. Look, you like Sheed, I have friends that still like Sheed. This is never going to be solved until he goes on a murderous rampage in Detroit and we all agree that he is cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Yes, he has the talent and ability, no one is even questioning that aspect. He has become a pest in Detroit, and even announcers are beginning to put the Kool-Aid down and go, "Yeah, didn't he do that to another team once in his career?" Don't antagonize people, it isn't becoming.

They are like a vampiric Kobayashi - Classic Dave on the Knicks, 2/1/08

by Rodendridge on Feb 8, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't say the Piston's championship...

...was a fluke. They're a great team; they were before they got 'sheed, and they still are. What I said--if you'd take the trouble to read it again--is that 'SHEED'S championship was a fluke. That's because any team--no matter how talented--with 'sheed on its roster will tend to build around and rely on him due to his remarkable talent. Then when the going gets tough and 'sheed does his inevitable psycho meltdown act, the team collapses--just like a building built on shifting sand.

This is what happened to the Blazers in that series against the Lakers, and we saw the same thing last year vs the Cavs. Remember, 'sheed's championship occurred when he joined a contending team just in time for their stretch run. He was a glorified role-player on that team, and that's the ideal situation for 'sheed because he lacks the character to be a go-to guy.

"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Feb 9, 2008 3:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

This is no problem

We're not so impressed with 'Sheed either.

"Life is a meaningless sequence of events in between Blazer championships"

by broggerboy19 on Feb 8, 2008 10:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

couldn't say it better myself

He's like the Baron Davis of Forwards... shows up with some stellar performances when he feels like it, but takes games off.

I've never been impressed by him. I don't like it when "experts" say LMA is the next Rasheed. Wallace has talent, no doubt, but I hope LMA is way more consistent than Sheed ever was.

The Portland Trailblazers... where dynastic happens.

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Feb 8, 2008 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i just hope...

that both teams play hard tonight.

by jksnake99 on Feb 8, 2008 10:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Nice

I like that

by porterfan30 on Feb 8, 2008 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

dont forget...

CTC, baby, CTC

by bow4meow on Feb 8, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Let us not forget

The season he wants the current Blazer's team to be on par with, the 1999-2000 season, was the year that the Blazers, led by him, choked away a 14-point lead in that fateful game we don't talk about. I'd rather barely miss the playoffs than be embarrassed like that and again.

I loved him when he was here but, he really is a dumb piece of (I don't think we're allowed to use expletives on this blog).

by jamesjonesismyhero on Feb 8, 2008 12:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Come on now

Sheed is far from dumb. I would say a crazy and loony... but not dumb. He knows the game, so well in fact that he knows when to disappear and let others less qualified take the shots, thus deflecting the attention. Sheed is classic coulda, woulda, shoulda. I realize that the front office has some culpability, but when does it become dumb for those defending him to not put the bulk of the blame on his shoulders?

They are like a vampiric Kobayashi - Classic Dave on the Knicks, 2/1/08

by Rodendridge on Feb 8, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

There are different kinds of dumb

There's a special type reserved for Rasheed.

by leeroyjenkins on Feb 8, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

alright, so Blazer fans hate Rasheed

point taken

I think it's inaccurate to place too much of the blame on him for the Blazers past failures but it seems I'm in the minority around here.

lickety-brindle

by Billy Ray Bates on Feb 8, 2008 1:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Not All Blazer Fans Hat Rasheed.

He is well thought of in our family. This is across three generations.
He was a favorite of my dad's. He was always quoting him and cracking up. Dad has passed on now, and I'll always have a soft spot for 'Sheed who gave my dad such joy.

by ladygonegrey on Feb 10, 2008 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Rasheed Wallace is my favorite player

I can see how someone who has made the playoffs every year of his career would not be impressed by a team that probably won't make it this year.

by EnglandDan on Feb 8, 2008 2:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

His playoff success is pretty awesome

1992-93 Lost First Round

1993-94 Lost First Round

1994-95 Lost First Round

1995-96 Lost First Round

1996-97 Lost First Round

1997-98 Lost First Round

1999-2000 Won First Round
Won Conference Semifinals
Lost Conference Finals

2000-01 Lost First Round

2001-02 Lost First Round

2002-03 Lost First Round

by leeroyjenkins on Feb 8, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Then he joined a stacked Pistons team

And the rest was history.

by leeroyjenkins on Feb 8, 2008 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Before you go too far down that path...

...seems sort of similar to a certain Clyde Drexler's postseason history, replacing 'stacked Detroit team' with 'stacked Houston team', of course.

Just sayin'

by DonkeyShins on Feb 8, 2008 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Clyde was in the finals two out of three years

with the Blazers and the year in between that they missed they still went to the Western Conference Finals.

The Houston team he went to was actually struggling at the time he came aboard. Yes, they had won the title the year prior but made the move to get Drexler because they were having a horrible year and limped into the playoffs as a sixth seed.

Drexler and Sheed are both great players. The main difference is that Sheed is insane. That's all.

by jferg on Feb 9, 2008 3:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Compare that record to our team.

That record is much better than average for the NBA.

by EnglandDan on Feb 8, 2008 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nice

I like Rasheed, sure he's flawed, so am I (and not for liking him IMO). The reasons why I like him are mostly listed above, as are his flaws.

As for the comment itself: He's says what's on his mind and there could be a touch of trash talk here... just pre-game stuff. I guess I'd come back with, "well then maybe you'll have a shot at beating us this time since Detroit has yet to do that consistently even through the really, really bad Portland years, and if you can't, with us missing our top scorer and the draft pick that everyone went nuts about last spring, ouch".

by drawingjeremy on Feb 8, 2008 4:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Why does he talk like hes the man,

when he has to ride coattails to get a championship.

Its a marathon, not a sprint.

by theanomaly777 on Feb 9, 2008 8:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I'll say it....

Sheed is a Biotch. I hate his arrogance on the court, I hate his guestures, I hate the way he whines and bitches on the court. He is the reason many of us were WAY turned off by the Blazers during his era.

"I will be impressed when their record is better than when I was there"... Give me a break Sheed, like that team did anyting. Ooh big deal, playoffs... If the fans didn't like you, and still don't, your team record didn't mean L*ker-$h!t. Man I hate Sheed.

Here's to a severe career ending injury where we all get to see him cry and get caried off.

by Scotty the Mastermind on Feb 11, 2008 8:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs