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Simmons: Kidd to Blazers?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080223

Now this is interesting. Everybody's favorite columnist is back for Round 2, and this time he's dishing juicy rumors from the All-Star weekend.  Page down to the first bullet point after number three.  Here's the teaser to whet your interest: "One other note on Kidd that everyone missed: The most logical home for him was Portland."  He proceeds to outline a possible deal and explains why he likes it.  

I'll present my own thoughts about this shortly, but in the interest of not prejudicing the discussion with the sheer brilliance of my pontifications, I offer it first to you, my BE compatriots.  Read that linked paragraph -- whadda y'all say?

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LOL
You trade for an aging Kidd if you need him to put you over the hump to get that championship - not when you are a young team on the rebuild.

by damir on Feb 22, 2008 2:33 PM PST   0 recs

There's no way I'm reading that link
Reading a few Simmons articles put me over my quota for the next 5 years. It amazes me that some people actually think guy knows the NBA and hoops.

by Lance Uppercut on Feb 22, 2008 2:37 PM PST   0 recs

You should post here more often Casey >:|
Simmons said that Portland should have signed Antwan Jaminson for the MLE in the summer and they would have had Kidd, Roy, Jamison, LMA, Oden and they would have won it all or something like that.

by damir on Feb 22, 2008 2:43 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I didn't understand the Jamison thing at all
He's making 16.3 million this year and was just an All-Star. Why on Earth does BS assume that we'll dangle our MLE and he'll come running? He's 31 years old; the dude wants to get one more long-term deal for beaucoup bucks before he starts taking the Michael Finley "play for peanuts to win a ring" route.

by BlazersOrBust on Feb 22, 2008 2:47 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I think I just got nausea
from reading the whole article. Apparently, he doesn't know that there's such thing as adjustment. Kidd played a few days after he was traded for goodness sakes.

by Eventine on Feb 22, 2008 2:44 PM PST   0 recs

I wonder who was the
irrationally devoted fan who send to Simmons a fart shut in an envelope. Confess man.
I like Brandon Roy, whatever planet he comes from. (Bill Walton?)

by amlmart1 on Feb 22, 2008 2:50 PM PST   0 recs

I wish it had been me.
I settled for sending him a turd sandwich.

by bfan on Feb 22, 2008 2:57 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Us getting Kidd for
LaFrentz, Rudy and a lottery protected 1st round pick is too good to be true in my opinion.  NJ made out way better getting Devin Harris, Diop and 2 1st rounders in return.  
 

by JasonT on Feb 22, 2008 2:52 PM PST   0 recs

And Blake
But even throwing him in there, I agree with you. I guess if I were playing devil's advocate, I'd say that our first round pick is likely to be worth more than Mavericks', and if they were to have taken the deal Simmons proposes they'd free up a lot more cap space than once LaFrentz's deal expires/be able to use him as big-time trade bait.

by BlazersOrBust on Feb 22, 2008 2:56 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

My two cents
I'd do this deal absolutely in a heartbeat, and here's why.

What we're losing: Rights to Rudy, LaFrentz, lottery-protected first-rounder, Blake.

Blake's a solid PG, but Kidd's an obvious upgrade there.  We're not really losing anything by dealing LaFrentz: the two reasons for keeping him around are for the 2009 cap space and for using him as a trade chip. With this deal, we get the best of both worlds -- landing a future HoF PG whose deal also expires at the end of next season.  We're almost certainly going to be in the lottery this year, meaning we'd roll that pick over to 2009 to trade.  How good of a pick will we be giving up trotting out a lineup of Kidd/Roy/Jones/LMA/Oden? Low 20's, more likely mid 20's. I won't lose any sleep over losing that choice.  Losing Rudy hurts, but if that's the only negative, you gotta pull the trigger on that deal.

Imagine Kidd running the break with Martell, Trout, LMA, and Oden, and imagine what the dual additions of GO and Kidd would do for our defensive rebounding.  The aforementioned starting lineup is at the very least a threat to make some serious noise in the playoffs.  And it's low-risk from our end. If it works out, great, and we resign Kidd with the MLE after the 2009 season. If not, we trade him at the 2009 deadline or just let him walk to free up the cap room.  I feel like if this deal had been up the table, KP would have done it without thinking twice. It's more likely in my mind that NJ was demanding Martillo/Trout's inclusion as well.

by BlazersOrBust on Feb 22, 2008 3:11 PM PST   0 recs

good points
I was about to  right the exact same thing, then I noticed you all ready wrote it for me. soo I agree with you

by Blazermaniac77 on Feb 24, 2008 2:50 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Not a terrible trade but not a good one
It would be a great trade if JKidd had acontract that expired the same time as Darius Miles' contract. That way we have like $32 mil in expiring contracts to hand out, and 1 of them would still be a decent role player. If we are going to use Kidd through the 08-09 season (like Simmons said) it's not really worth it, as it's in principle, using Raef's expiring contract to acquire Kidd for 2 years. An aging, declining, point guard.

I would use KIdd for this year then dump him next year, as he is a significant upgrade to the Raef trade chip. Now we have someone that plays!

Although it'll bring us into contention next year with another big guard what about the year after? Who is going to supercede Kidd? Sergio Rodriguez? Seriously.

Kidd is a good fit for our team though, especially this year. We need a guard with the vision to run the break. Kidd also brings a lot of toughness, leadership, and experience to this team. All things lacking in the current blazers. He can also rebound quite well, which is a huge plus.

The overriding negative is that Portland frequently gets killed by quick guards that slice and dice our perimeter D. Kidd doesn't really fix that, he might even exasperates that fatal flaw. When players like Tyron Lue and Earl Watson light you up for career nights you have issues. I could be wrong about this though, and maybe Kidd really doesn't care in NJ and is playing like crap because of it.

If you got rid of Rudy in the deal I would do it.

Maybe Sergio and Jack would learn something from Kidd's tutelage.

Getting Antawn Jamison for the MLE is retarded and makes no sense, so I'll just ignore that.

by Dheepan on Feb 22, 2008 3:21 PM PST   0 recs

Even if he morphed into Lebron James
I don't want the crotch-grabber wife-beater porn-stache.

by tweener on Feb 22, 2008 4:32 PM PST   0 recs

If he morphed into Lebron James
I would pretend he was a different person and forgive his past transgressions. Or I would be forced to kill the real LbJ in secrecy and hoodwink the NBA bigwigs to make the cavs deal him to the Blazers for Darius, the once and future king of the cavs.
"I Dare You Not to Like the Blazers" Henry Abbott

by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 22, 2008 6:32 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

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