Postgame Reaction Thread
by Ben Golliver on Dec 9, 2008 9:28 PM PST
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Firstrated
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
by amlmart1 on Dec 9, 2008 9:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
lastrated.
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by nightbluefruit on Dec 9, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Hence my comment.
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by nightbluefruit on Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
rec'd
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
by prezofdeath on Dec 10, 2008 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
upset.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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A freaking bank shot?
Are you kidding?
We had that one sowed up!
shot over travis
Travis’ D. c’mon.
Hedo? that guy was hitting at will all night.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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by Y5k on Dec 9, 2008 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, but no timeouts for a sub
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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by Y5k on Dec 9, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
it was a fade away jump shot 3
outlaw is athletic and jumped at him, no chance of blocking that wing and a prayer
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After that bank shot went in Hedo's face wan't the ugliest thing on the court (for a brief moment)
it’s a shame we didn’t win this one, with the way Brandon and LaMarcus played.
According to the stat sheet at the game we have five guys who shoot 3’s better this season than the best shooter on Orlando, but it sure didn’t look like it tonight. (although it’s a lot easier to shoot when you’re wide open) I suppose with the SA and Hou wins at home, we’re bound to have a few like this one get away from us this season. Gonna be an angry chalupa.
by sfiles on Dec 9, 2008 10:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
recced for humor
when we need it most
"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan
We gave up too much easy stuff to set them up for the hard stuff
I don’t think the difference between the shot clock and the game clock was 5 sec when they called the violation on portland.
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Anyone want to fill in how POR fell apart in that final minute?
ESPN Gamecast only gives the facts, not the real details…
Perimeter defense is terrible.
Too many 3 point looks.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
we played brilliantly on offense
until the last minute. Very disappointing. We got what we deserved. Credit to Orlando.
Boomshakalaka
tough to swallow
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 9, 2008 9:31 PM PST reply actions
!!!!!!
Perimeter defense! When a 19 year old French boy is your best perimeter defender there will be problems.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 9:31 PM PST reply actions
Terrible execution at the end.
We turned it over our last shot was a fade away three at the shot clock buzzer,
Come Out, Come Down, Face Out, Be Gone
Break down, build up again
Here she comes with a hand to lend
Get out of bed just to dive into the night
Torn lips and I feel uptight
Come out, Come down
Fade out,
Be Gone
WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.
what?
You wanted us to foul with a two-point lead and five seconds remaining? I can’t say that I have ever seen that in the NBA. Maybe in a hack-a-Shaq situation but then again I don’t think Shaq is normally in the game in those situations.
That way, you avoid loss by three points
The worst thing that can happen (if you box out on the FT) is a tied game, and you get the ball back for the final shot. Like I said, Popovitch usually lets his guys foul in that situation.
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EXACTLY
thats a good idea… especially on a night when orlandos shooting 14-27(!!!) from downtown.
i was at the game, and as soon as i realized they had a shot to win i was thinking,
DO NOT LET THEM SHOOT A THREE
by dr.feelgood on Dec 10, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Risky move in normal situations.
When Howard has to ball in that situation though you foul both him and his grandmother.
Outlaw: “How does I putted hand in face?”
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Batum should have been put in
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
All game? I’m not just talking about the last shot. Talking only about the last shot is like finding a body filled with bullet holes and talking about how much it would have hurt to have fallen to the ground.
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by nightbluefruit on Dec 9, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
trav
played good d on tat sot. credit to turkeyglue.
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2008 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
But he played horrible the rest of the game. I could care less about the last shot. About 1/3 of 3-pointers ended with Travis flailing wildly at the shooter.
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by nightbluefruit on Dec 9, 2008 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
didn't see the game
just the meltdown. can’t comment about anything except the last minute.
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2008 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
Well, you missed some epically good play by Rudy on the offensive end.
And some monstrously bad D by Outlaw. He looked so lost in the zone.
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by nightbluefruit on Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Nate McMillan ...
is an idiot for going small late in games.
McMillan did it constantly in Seattle and, well, he’s doing it constantly in Portland.
Also, perimeter defense is a huge, huge issue.
Sergio
Should have been playing instead of blake.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
i .. agree..with thegreatdane? :)
blake was out the game so long that they shoulda kept sergio in to run things, at least until the very very end for ft%
Yea that was bad too
Nic & Sergio both should have been in.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Why sergio?
Blake spreads the court better as a deep threat.
And I don’t see how Sergio counts as not going small.
NO
Listen to me. Blake displayed ZERO ball security out there, not to mention his noexistant defense.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
Sergio showed more pressure defense
But I think Blake was better at getting to shooters.
Blake spreads the floor better and his defender can’t leave him to pressure Roy.
bro, i retract my agreement with u
sergio is an awful defender in general. i’d want him in until the last 2 possessions.
Look, I'm old-school in this regard.
In my mind, there should always be a true center on the court—no matter the circumstances.
LMA was mincing up Howard
and Howard wasnt doing anything offensively
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Dec 9, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
It was a good call by Nate
Small ball brought the team back in the 4th and small ball won in Orlando.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Dec 9, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Uhm
When the Blazers went small, they went from a 8pt deficit, to a 8pt advantage. The game wasn’t lost by bad coaching. Quit trying to blame EVERY loss on Nate.
Founder of the "Crash Batumcoot" Movement.
Uh, I usually don't comment in game threads.
In addition, Nate McMillan isn’t a bad coach; he’s just an average coach.
McMillian, moreover, isn’t the biggest problem, as that award goes to abysmal perimeter defense.
Anyhow, I still stand by my assertion that there should always be a pivotman on the floor.
I've yet to hear
any NBA experts call Nate anything but a very good coach, and several have called him front-runner for COY this season.
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to see Stan Van Gundy get some recognition.
I, however, am a fan of the Van Gundy brothers’ frequent use of the 4-ourside/1-inside motion offense. Jeff Van Gundy’s focus on hard-nosed man-to-man defense has earned him a bit of extra respect from me, although admittedly Stan isn’t up to par with his sibling in that regard.
Magic have played the
easiest schedule in the league thus far. Color me skeptical.
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2008 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
If Stan Van Gundy was packin' heat like Ron Jeremy, it'd've ...
been Pat Riley who was railroaded in a very, very brutal manner.
People just don't realize how much Nate makes this team overachieve
Looking back at the 21 win season, I still don’t know how he got that squad to win 21 games.
Founder of the "Crash Batumcoot" Movement.
...or last year?
…or this year?
The man is STILL playing without the starting SF and with an “underwhelming” #1 pick. Yet we’re outdoing our ‘inflated’ win total from last season and are now ranked 4/5 on all the boards. even after the national opener’s awful loss & the celtics game. Yah, nate is awful.
Nope, the onus there is on bad perimeter defense.
Nate McMillan’s small-ball routine late in games will cause a meltdown at some later date, though.
lol ok
It did cost us 1 game last season— LeBron waltzed down the middle and scored with Przybilla inexplicably watching from the bench.
Boomshakalaka
I vividly recall that late in a game once Nate McMillan used a small-ball lineup of ...
Vladimir Radmanovic, Rashard Lewis, Ray Allen, Antonio Daniels, and Luke Ridnour.
At that moment in time, I wanted to break my television.
It happened with like roughly 6 minutes left in the game, though.
Yet, this was during the 2004-2005 season, so maybe I shouldn’t complain about it.
Hope you have a good day job.
Because you have a long way to go as a basketball analyst.
hakkaa päälle !
agree
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Technical foul for off-ball foul in final minutes.
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by nightbluefruit on Dec 9, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Ya he did.
We should have fouled him there.
I was asking about the rule for just randomly fouling him, but we shouldn’t have had to, you’re right.
No way man
oward is a 58% shooter. that means barely a one in three chance that he makes two free throws.
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2008 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
I'd much rather put him at the line then let Hedo or Lewis shoot a 3
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
but it does open up other options.
while he has a 25% chance of making both, he has a 50+% chance of making the first. then if he makes the 2nd thats gravy. if not, maybe they grab the rebound-then what?
Put Oden on one block
Przy on the other, and Batum on the third position. No way that rebound is going anywhere but to us.
"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan
at least the l*kers lost tonight too
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 9, 2008 9:33 PM PST reply actions
abracadabra, holmes.
Hey, ORL is a good team. Anyone watching feel the home win streak tightened our guys up out there?
If you'd like Rudy TheMandez to hit from outside, press "3" now....
by jerome glide porterworth on Dec 9, 2008 9:33 PM PST reply actions
true
we have some work to do on perimeter D in practice, though, cuz it wasn’t really the last 3 that won it, it was the last 5 or 6.
If you'd like Rudy TheMandez to hit from outside, press "3" now....
by jerome glide porterworth on Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
last two possesions lost us that game
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Dec 9, 2008 9:34 PM PST reply actions
Blake & Outlaw lost us that game.
Did anyone see blake ATTEMPTING to stop Jameer Nelson? REDICULOUS.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Blake won us the last one, so it evens out.
by IntergalacticP on Dec 9, 2008 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
I guess.
Blame goes to Nate not playing Sergio that last minute.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
No, it doesn't.
Sergio would not have won us that game in the final minute. His defender could have poached off on Roy even more than Blake’s defender. And neither PG was in the final play.
Blake
Blew the open 3, played crap defense & gave up a key possession. Blindly defending him is pointless. Sergio showed all night he can dribble through anyone they were throwing at him. 7/0 assist turnover ratio.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Sergio would not have faced nearly the same defense
And Roy would just have another defender on him.
And I don’t think the solution of “Have Sergio dribble through everyone” is a great idea either. Neither player should be dribbling through double teams if we can help it.
No
The same situation, brandon would have been doubled, then everyone rushed to who he passed it to. Blake couldn’t handle it. Can’t explain it any clearer
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
Blake's been clutch all year
But that was a rough one. Bad shot. Bad timeout. Bad decision. Bad turnover.
Bad.
When LMA and Roy play like that… one of them needs to take those shots down the stretch that Outlaw and Blake took. Has to. Must.
I know Outlaw has the Mr. Fourth Q rep, but he should not be on the floor down the stretch. Ever.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
going small was not the problem
the shot clock violation with roy trying to force the issue and leaving Lewis open for a 3 were the big problems late in the game. Also, Roy missing 5 FTs is just killer
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
?
How about Nate putting Blake out there when Brandon was getting doubled.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Dribbling through the double team
Unlike Blake, who had the ball poked away.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
Are you suggesting Sergio dribble through the double team?
Why would Sergio dribble through the two defenders guarding Roy?
Did you watch the game?
Roy seemed to do just fine while playing alongside Sergio.
by howlingfantods on Dec 9, 2008 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Are you suggesting Sergio dribble through the double team on Roy?
Which player even has the ball in that scenario?
No. I don't even know what that means.
But when Roy plays with Sergio, they take turns trying to create some offense — they don’t really play off each other, but they present different offensive looks. Pretty effective, as they demonstrated all of the fourth quarter until Nate subbed in Blake.
by howlingfantods on Dec 9, 2008 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Sergio
After he caught it he was bum rushed & appeared confused. Watch it again.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
Blake
ugh
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
Looking back
it really was.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
He put him in
Over a player who hadn’t turned it over all night. Hmm
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
blake vs sergio
is about number 12 on the list of things that went wrong in the last minute. It didn’t decide the game.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on Dec 9, 2008 9:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Blake missed a 3 and committed a turnover.
Not the most SIGNIFICANT mistakes but they definitely contributed.
The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.
Not true. Watch the last minute again.
Missed a 3, turnover, unnecessary timeout.
I’m not blaming him. I don’t expect anyone who comes in for the last minute of a tight game after sitting for 18 minutes to be on the top of their game. But subbing him in was a mistake.
by howlingfantods on Dec 9, 2008 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Today
Sergio > Blake easily.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
Don't blame the lose on Blake
It was tough to watch in the end but it was a team effort through all 48 minutes to lose it.
by SteveBlakeFan on Dec 9, 2008 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
+1
;)
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Oh my wishful thinking.
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by nightbluefruit on Dec 9, 2008 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
very bad
trying to kill clock and not the magic.
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2008 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
who knows
very disappointing. the offense was great all game, then 4 empty possessions at the end, when 1 basket would have sealed it.
Boomshakalaka
So much confusion off the trap
There’s going to be film on that, you can be sure. Blazers just didn’t know what to do. Ugly turnover followed by a terrible shot.
Rudy’s gotta come get the ball.
There’s got to be a backup plan when Roy goes iso and the trap comes. Got to.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
I want to say something
i just don’t know what to say. our rotations were sloppy tonight. WAY too many open jump shooters.
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Someone other than Roy...
Needs to be willing to take late game shots. Instead of an automatic Roy isolation play, we should be running our offense to the open man….
The automatic double team makes Roy ineffective in late-game situations.
They hit 14 three pointers
We got a taste of our own medicine pure and simple. We have won games like this. It was our turn to lose one especially when you aren’t aggressive on the offensive end.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
LMA has his best game of the season and it get blown this way??????
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Amazing game from Lamarcus. He was unstoppable. Couldn’t have played better.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
why did we stop doing what was working?
and why didn’t we foul right away on that last possession?
I can’t believe that just happened.
Because the Blazers were playing for the lead, not the game
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OUTLAW ON TURG
Can someone PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME???? Why does Outlaw NOT GET UP ON HIM? You knew it was coming!!
He was up on him. He hit a prayer
This isn’t on Travis for that defense. It was fine.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
No it wasn't He could have bodied him up MUCH more.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Last thing you want is to foul in that case
But Travis’s mental clock wasn’t running, he should have known when Hedo was going to shoot from time alone.
HELL
Outlaw layed off him. Why did you think he got it off?
Better yet, why NOT let Batum guarded him? He is our best defender and everyonk knows Turg was going to get it.
WOW
Watch the replay fellas. He had a hand in his face.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
???
+1
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
there are no orders not to pass to Rudy
Roy just screwed up the last few possessions. He played a great game but not a good final minute— bet Roy will admit to that.
Boomshakalaka
Yep
And he was not happy. I don’t know if they showed it on TV or not, but long after the rest of the team has left the court, Roy hunched over by himself at the FT line with his jersey over his head for a very long moment. He was clearly devastated, and probably placing a lot of the blame on himself. From the sidelines KP came over and got him and brought him into the tunnel—it was actually a touching moment. This is what it looks like when players learn how to become champions.
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
Blake
Clanked a late wide open 3. A terrible possession after a pass from Brandon showed no ball security. Sergio gets more mins.
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Blake won us the last game
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
But he was ice cold at that point.
You don’t put an ice cold PG in to protect your lead for the last minute of the game after he’d been sitting for 18 minutes.
by howlingfantods on Dec 9, 2008 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
Not my point
One day he is the best, now he sucks. Lame.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
+1
Someone understands. Especially when you have a fire hot PG who hasn’t turned it over all game.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
sure you do
He’s your starter. He drilled a huge 3 @ Miami after coming in cold.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Dec 9, 2008 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That was after just a few minutes of rest.
Not after a quarter and a half. Huuuge difference.
by howlingfantods on Dec 9, 2008 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
We could pick things from every player in the loss
Fact is, it was a team effort. Roy missed FT’s, Blake and Oden were in foul trouble etc. It wasn’t Blake’s fault.
by SteveBlakeFan on Dec 9, 2008 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
Travis played fine on the last play.
It’s not like Hedo made a pretty shot…he bricked it in. If we take care of the ball, and Roy makes some free throws, we win. Really simple folks.
Can I buy you a fish sandwich?
yup
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
No he wasn't
JUST GET UP ON HIM!!! Let him have the two for crying out, NOT THE THREE.
EVERYBODY IN THE BUILDING KNEW TURG IS SHOOTING THE THREE.
It was a team effort to blow that game
not travis alone. all this means is that everybody gets to play “pin the blame on their favorite scapegoat”. Apparently yours is Travis.
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2008 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
I am going with Nate, Travis & Blake.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Turk's not going to take the two
So we couldn’t really let him have the two. Fouling earlier probably would have been nice, but I don’t think the Blazers have ever played like that. If we foul Turk, he throws the ball wildly for 3 free throws.
If Turk had missed the shot, we’d be saying Outlaw played good defense, because it wasn’t bad.
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It wasn't bad?
But, with proper feet positioning + timing of a block, I think NIC could have disrupted that.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Travis played it very well
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
oops, fingers crossed.
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
nah but i mean
orlando always go to turk for last shots, why was outlaw on him? turk was punishing outlaw all night
Orlando shot the lights out from Three. That's it.
Turkoglu hit another game winner, it’s kinda his thing.
Nate shouldn't have taken Sergio out...
He could’ve found people open looks went they doubled Roy at the half court line…
+1
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by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't have minded Sergio staying in
I think it had to do with free throw shooting though. Not sure.
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I actually agree
Blake was ice ice cold. Not just off the bench. Hadn’t played since mid third quarter. Sergio kept the Blazers in the game when the threes were raining during the third quarter.
But hindsight is 20 20. Blake has been clutch all year and has hit several big shots off the bench. But man, he looked lost out there.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
Well, that was unnecessary to end the home game streak like this. But it had to happen at some time
B-Rex bandwagon begins
Turkey Glue seems to always play well against the Blazers.
Maybe he likes it here.
by IntergalacticP on Dec 9, 2008 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
I like Blake
but that was a mistake by Nate to go with him late. He was sitting for almost the entire second half, he came in cold and had trouble handling the ball, missed his only shot, got hesitant. Bad situation to put him in.
yeah. totally saw that. there was still 1sec left on the shot clock
The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.
i think everyone's presumption that blake is clutch was somewhat proven wrong tonight
and brandon is trying to take on too much, where rudy could be contribuing
clutch players don't make clutch shots every game.
MJ lost something like 26 games during his career when he took the last shot to win or lose.
The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.
i suppose all three guards on the last couple of possessions
could get some blame for playing hot potato instead of trying to create a shot
I only see mr.fourth quarter (Tot) or Roy creating a shot in the last couple of possessions.
Rudy has no respect in the 4th quarters yet, it seems. Don’t u think?
he's a rookie
Roy is going to have the ball. In the last few minutes, Rudy is just going to be a shooter, at least this year. I don’t see this changing and I don’t really want it to change.
Boomshakalaka
we lose on a bankshot 3
and all the geniuses here are throwing around blame.
real classy guys!
ignacio
by ignacio on Dec 9, 2008 9:42 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Orlando's a good team
Turk made a lucky shot. I think Outlaw was fine on the last play.
I love Roy’s game, but no one handling the ball but him in the last 7 minutes is too much. They’ve got to change it up a little just to keep teams honest. They just started running two guys out on Roy.
free throws,
missing free throws…amazing 3’s from Orlando and bad perimeter throughout most of the game. I’ll take it. One to grow on I guess. Still sucks though. Off the glass?!! Off the glass!! Turkoglu had been missing. Oh well. Utah nesxt. Bring IT!
i think everyone's presumption that blake is clutch was somewhat proven wrong tonight
Good grief. It’s one game.
i blame it on blake
sorry, i want to root for him, but hes just so shaky at times. Sergio shouldve been in. Sergio just has more skills and quickness. He is not a liability when the going gets tough.
by John Park Williams on Dec 9, 2008 9:43 PM PST reply actions
I'm fine with blake as long as that last game didn't get to his head.
I’m still for getting rid of Outlaw.. Not because of his last play, but because I just dont think he fits..
Batum
Should have been in at the end, along with Sergio.
I am done with Trade Posts.
Just sign Rondo in '09
by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
I dont think Hedo gets a look with Batum on him.
Travis blew everything tonight. I don’t get why Nate keeps him in…so frustrating!
Display his trade value?
Don’t hold me to it.
Kwame and Darko - Grizz '07-'08. The rebuilding is complete.
What could Batum have done?
He BANKED IN A THREE. He was forced to take a bad shot and didn’t get a good look. Outlaw was in his face. He forced him to be so far off that it fell in. Nothing you can do. Not Outlaw’s fault.
I don’t think Outlaw should’ve been in near the end for a completely different reason. His bball IQ is horrendous ugly terrible atrocious bad. You know how some guys do all the little things? Trout does none of them.
Not sure how you can blame the stagnant offense and turnover on Trout, but I’m sure there must be a way.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
I think what he's saying is...
If Batum is a better defender, he may have adjusted the shot attempt long before Hedo banked it in.
Not saying he’s right or wrong. I just think that’s being lost in the translation (For some reason, everyone thinks “Bring Batum in” equals “he would have blocked Hedo!”, when it really means was “He might have made Hedo take a tougher shot, or denied the ball to him altogether”)
I’m not sure I agree (I think Batum is a rookie and still gets owned by saavy veteran moves, and Hedo would have taken the last shot anyway… possibly a different shot). But I think we should really make sure we know the why’s for questioning the decision, as opposed to just “he couldn’t have done anything”.
I'm not sure I agree with that statement in general
but I absolutely agree that sergio should have finished the game instead of blake
by icelandicraider on Dec 9, 2008 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
How can you let Hedo touch the ball on that last possession?
He’s the only one you don’t want with it… Rashard can’t create for himself, Nelson has a hard time getting shots off, Howard can’t shoot… It REALLY isn’t hard.
Based on everyone's reactions
I’m kinda glad I missed this game.
It sounds like it was just a bad night… if one play goes differently, we’re not having any of this analysis.
But it was a very exciting and entertaining game.
It just ended wrong.
by IntergalacticP on Dec 9, 2008 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
it was actually a great game
but the blazers thought they had it in the bag early and got a little cocky/sloppy
rudy had an awesome between howard's legs pass
and two sweet alley-opps, and an over the shoulder pass leading to an alderidge dunk
two bad possessions Kartemex
does not mean the strategy is bad. I trust Roy with the ball. He’s not perfect, but he’s pretty darn good.
Boomshakalaka
Roy doesn't share the ball?
I suppose there’s a new off-beat and exceptionally wrong analysis for everything.
Founder of the "Crash Batumcoot" Movement.
by damir on Dec 9, 2008 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He leads
the team in assists. other than that, yeah, he doesn’t share.
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2008 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't Roy make about 95% of his 4th quarter drives?
Kwame and Darko - Grizz '07-'08. The rebuilding is complete.
No one else besides Roy wanted to take the shot.
by howlingfantods on Dec 9, 2008 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
not true
Blake, Rudy, Aldridge have all showed they are willing to take big shots. The offense was bad the last minute and its mostly on Roy. Its just 2 possessions- they were bad and it cost us the game, but it doesn’t make a trend.
Boomshakalaka
Gotta find someone to hate/blame after a loss...
It doen’t matter that we were wildly cheering for the same guy five minutes earlier.
Outlaw is horrible! Horrible! Horrible!
I do no remember a Blazers player with a lower bball IQ.
Time and time again people were hitting 3’s in Travis’ face.
To me, everyone did what they had to do to pull out the win, but Travis had so many stupid or blown plays not only in the throughout, but at the end that was too much to overcome.
Agreed....
Call me an outlaw hater because I am, but I think he has needed to go for over a year now..
People think he’s clutch, but guess what.. if he’s not shooting those clutch shots, then someone else is, and we are fine because we have plenty of others to hit those shots.
Total agreement
Hopefully, KP can send him away with RLEC sometime soon.
Hahah
I dont have a problem being called that either…in fact, is there a Travis hater group we can sign up for on here?
Nate Needs A Better Strategy
Nate needs a better strategy when Roy gets double team at the end. Everyone was standing, expecting Roy to make a play. They have no initiative. When Roy gets double team, everyone stands around.
a lot of blame to go around.
Roy missed FT’s
Blake losing the ball with 40 sec left. Can’t have your starting PG do that.
Roy gets double teamed, threw up a really tough shot.
LaMarcus was getting his jersey grabbed when he got that rebound…looked to me like there was still time on the shot clock when that happened.
Poor perimeter defense. The zone kept Howard out of the game, but the Magic took and made a lot of wide open Threes.
Blake calling time on the inbounds, probably not necessary.
I’m numb.
The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.
Rudy
didn’t box out on the first attempt of the possession when lewis hit the three. his man got his own miss and kicked to lewis. blame to go around.
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2008 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
On that particular play, Outlaw ran out to cover with not only a delayed reaction, but a poor close out to get in Lewis’ face. That was right before Hedo nailed the game winner in his face.
Brandon gets a pass from me....
Hes gotten so many W’s for this team on his own— he still did enough to overcome all those in the end— 9 straight points against this club tho— where else was the meltdown?
Sergio best 3 shooter. Best FT shooter. No Turnovers
Burns doesn’t it Timbo?
I am done with Trade Posts.
Just sign Rondo in '09
by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Sergio IS our best player
As proven tonight.
Nobody would be happier than Timbo to see Sergio improve.
That said, it was his best game. And NO, he shouldn't have smelled the court after the 6 minute mark of the 4th Q.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
only counting 3/4 court heaves
which make up more of his shot attempts than he gets credit for.
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
Oh, I forgot that. One of them was, one was a bad miss that I was cussing about.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
4 of the past 5
and only 3 in the other one (vs Boston). Also 3 turnovers tonight. He’s really struggling lately (to be expected from a 19 year old). Martell’s setback was a tough blow. We need Nic to get back to form.
Boomshakalaka
Defense Stand
A defense stand should always have your best defenders. Where was Batum and Oden?
OMG IT'S THE END OFTHE WORLD ZOINKS!
Roy’s worthless. He made one bad decision, and that CLEARLY outweighs his brilliance over the last two and a quarter years.
Recommendation: Trade Broy and RLEC for Stephon and a draft pick.
Uh, Travis? Where were you on that block? The guy’s supposed to be “athletic.”
Recommendation: Replace him with Shavlik.
Hey, Nate, how about subbing Batum in at the end? I mean, yeah, the guy was ice cold and he’d been out for 15 minutes, but sheesh, we all know he woulda stuffed Turkey like it was Thanksgiving.
Recommendation: Fire Nate, replace him with Randy Wittman.
Greg, don’t think you’re exempt. We saw the way you didn’t laugh at one of Brandon’s jokes on the bench. That kind of attitude will get you know where.
Recommendation: Replace with Ike.
Overall: Season OVAAAAH!
WTH?
Who have said the season was over? Who have said anything you mentioned? Who is overreacting? We are critiquing what went wrong.
Was the last timeout a 20 seconds one?
In that case, Nate could only have exchanged one player
B-Rex bandwagon begins
Nate McMuffin'
blew the game… who calls a timeout up by 5 with 53 secs left after dribbling past halfcourt… end up blowing the second timeout and Mike Rice spiels on how you wanna have one down the stretch and then you have a camera shot of Kevin Pritchard with a mind-boggled face and you know that Orlando would get back in this game (and win)…
Let RudyMania Reign!!
by DowntownChinatown on Dec 9, 2008 9:49 PM PST reply actions
that was a good timeout
the Blazers were coming off an empty possession and he wanted to set something up. It didn’t work.
The Blazers lost because they executed poorly down the stretch and Orlando made some big shots. Its not on Nate— it’s on Roy and Blake for bad offense down the stretch and the whole team for the bad defense the entire game.
Boomshakalaka
Ummm. NOOO!!
As Rice says, you wanna save your timeouts for something a possible down the stretch F’up… which is what eventually happened and then we had no timeouts to regroup. Maybe if your down a bucket or two or up no more than one possession…
Let RudyMania Reign!!
by DowntownChinatown on Dec 9, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
i dont like you calling nate a derogatory nickname
maybe that’s just me, but it sounds like a spoiled child
ignacio
It reminds me of how Seattle Seahawks fans nicknamed Billy McMullen "McMuffen," although ...
that came about because he dropped plenty of catchable passes. Oddly enough, though, McMullen’s main problem was his abysmal route running, which was caused by a low football IQ and/or laziness.
We lost for a number of reasons but they should not have played it safe on the last possession! Several player passed up wide open looks and opportunities to take it to the basket just to run the clock down. You have to stay aggressive. roy is obviously who we want with the last shot but, if they are gonna double him, they have to look for other players. Turn around 3 with a double team is not the shot we should have taken.
I would have liked to see
an out of the box super high arcing shot from Brandon at the end— to leach a few more seconds off the clock, even if Orlando gets the ball back.
theres an idea.
I don’t know if you can train someone who is used to making everything to intentionally high arc a shot though. what if he just threw it up really high.
The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.
by OneTrickPony on Dec 9, 2008 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
lol
I never thought of that. Might have worked….. oh wait I bet the shot clock is like a dead ball stopage so it may not matter
no
the shot clock is only for you to get the ball out of your hands… not to hit the rim.
by dr.feelgood on Dec 10, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Everyone seems to be forgetting about defense
Bad defense all game. A switch heavy defense is gonna be the death of the Blazers this year. Been a problem all year long.
Magic took advantage of mismatches and forced the Blazers to help which led to open shots on the perimeter. The Blazers also did a poor job of keep players in front of them again. So all in all, same script, except the Magic shot better than the Blazers from the 3pt line.
All these wins have been due to hot shooting, Blazers need to learn how to defend first before being taken seriously.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
On the Road. Utah. TNT. How do the Blazers respond?
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Dec 9, 2008 9:53 PM PST reply actions
Now that's a game I would have expected to be a loss anyway
Will be tough now
B-Rex bandwagon begins
Perspective people
This was a choke. A bad choke. It hurts. Plenty of blame to go around. Its one game, and we’ve generally been lucky in close games. Today we were unlucky. This is still a good team, one bad minute notwithstanding.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Dec 9, 2008 9:53 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ya, did anyone else feel it
When it was being inbounded at 4.3? did anyone else feel that was going to happen… I felt sick before it even happened. :)
yes.
Hedo hit a shot almost exactly like that on national TV last year to beat someone in a big game. Mightve been Boston? I’m not sure.
The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.
SAME HERE!!!!!!!
i was like oh man…. here comes a game winning three… wierd how you feel it before it happens
by dr.feelgood on Dec 10, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
I was sure they would take a 3
since they were sizzlin’ from 3 the whole night long. – Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
Law of averages. We win the Houston game, we lose this one
Should have lost that one, should of won this one
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Dec 9, 2008 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
That's the Magic for you
They shoot a ton of three’s and when they’re hot, crap like that can happen.
Sucks if you’re a Blazers fan, because Howard wasn’t playing well (and injured) but Lewis and Turkoglu get paid to do things just like that.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
the only reason we lost is because brandon missed that last second full-court shot.
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 9, 2008 9:53 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
Youvegottomakeyourfreethrows :)
B-Rex bandwagon begins
by Norsktroll on Dec 9, 2008 9:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm actually impressed he's still conscious
Normally he sounds depressed after a routing 1st quarter jumper by the opposition.
Boomshakalaka
There is nothing the Blazers could change now. You win that game 99 times out of 100 playing the same way.
Don’t change a thing, just finish the game better.
Actually they should try playing some defense
Magic had open shots all night in the half court or in transition.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
yup
why oh why were they in the zone for so long? they didnt even have to expend energy on the 2nd of their back to back to score points!
by loyal_blazer on Dec 9, 2008 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
thats what I thought right after the loss. broy has been unbelievable— he had this one won too, even on an off night, pulled it together in the 4th and put the guys up 8+. Thats a smart, composed player right there.
by loyal_blazer on Dec 9, 2008 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
This game is on the perimeter D.
You have to man up and now allow so many open shots. They catch up with you… It’s not just the final minute that cost us. Look at the stats. Other than 3-pointers, we dominated the game.
It’s on the perimeter D. We have to get out to the open shooters better.
It’s December. They’re still a good young team.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 9, 2008 10:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Tonight made me realize...
We need a starting Small Forward. Please?
I am done with Trade Posts.
Just sign Rondo in '09
yeah
Nic has great potential, but he’s 19. Outlaw is not the answer. Webster’s reinjuring the foot is a tough blow.
Boomshakalaka
Start the trade thread
Find us a new SF.
I am done with Trade Posts.
Just sign Rondo in '09
by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
Sergio
Played like a starting PG I want on this team.
I am done with Trade Posts.
Just sign Rondo in '09
by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
He did play a great game.
I would have kept him in there down the stretch.
Batum
He will be the future SF like Bayless will be the future PG.
Batum should be playing more— he seems to learn quickly and play beyond his year, which is the opposite of some of the other guys out there.
by loyal_blazer on Dec 9, 2008 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
he should play more unless he's gassed
Cat's foot, iron claw - LaMarcus Aldridge screams for more. At paranoia's poison door, alley oop slam throw it down big man. - Variations on a theme by Peter Sinfield.
Yea ?
Except Bayless can’t get on the floor & Sergio is stepping up.
I am done with Trade Posts.
Just sign Rondo in '09
by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
This year...
The next couple will be much different. Nate is a form PG who doesnt like rooks…Sergio has gone thru the same thing and is finally getting some run
by loyal_blazer on Dec 9, 2008 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
The trick is, you don't
You need like every third one and get down and comment and be like, man, you guys are right. That ending was garbage. Y’all nailed it. Hedo got so lucky.
Then it sounds like you read everything, when in reality you just showed up ‘cuz you’ve been busy working on finals….
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
The thing is that we should take out of the atch that we almost beat Orlando when they shot lights out.
That speaks well about the team
Yes he did
And Sergio and Rudy played great in the second half. Roy had 20 second half points and Prz had a double double off the bench. We had some really good offensive performances.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
He was all over the place
Blocking shots, tipping passes, rebounding!!! Just all around fantastic.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
He knocked down his shots and hustled
Difference between a good game and a bad game from Aldridge is a 19 foot jump shot.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
I'm mostly talking about the rebounds really
though it sure does change things when the 19 footer is dropping.
Boomshakalaka
I've played hundreds of basketball games over the years
No one plans to make a straight away 3-Pt shot off the glass. It was just garbage that it went in. We should not have lost this game.
Can you tell that I am a polite but sore loser? It’s going to be at least another hour before I can go to sleep though.
Man, I tell you, Here in England is 6 am, I have a class at 9 and i'm seeing slipknot and children of bodom 2 days in a row, and I cannot sleep
I am more blazer today, that’s good
If you have be up at 3:00 in the morning..
to watch the Blazers you are definitely a Blazer fan. I applaud you.
Norsktroll
Seriously, I was all set to send a comment to you in regards to your team playing a great game, how Roy and Aldridge can’t be stopped, and how Dwight Howard had a sub-par game and the Magic are very prone to blowing big and small leads…I was ready to hit send when the 9-0 run happened. Still, great effort, and the Blazers continue to impress. I wonder if Raptors fans are having a good laugh at this, considering how Blake burned them with a last second three on Sunday.
Anyway…I think you guys can totally take care of the Clippers.
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
great game
Interested in outlaw?
I am done with Trade Posts.
Just sign Rondo in '09
by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 9, 2008 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
I liked him at one point
Haven’t followed him closely enough this season…what’s going on with him?
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Does he have any funny nicknames I can call him?
The only real Outlaw is Bo…in my mind, anyway :)
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Jack's in Indiana now, right?
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Yup
And for some reason, he is NOT stepping on sidelines there all the time ;-)
We still like him. Yet I also like Bayless.
Viva la Rudylucion
Why doesn't Bayless get playing time?
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Blake is a good fit with the starters
because of his shooting.
Sergio Rodriguez is a good fit with the reserves because of his passing ability.
Bayless is a scorer on a team that doesn’t really need that from its PG right now.
Boomshakalaka
Coach Nate is picky with his rookies, especially point guards
He likes consistency. Bayless will get a little more time as the season progresses, but he has two guys in front of him.
Viva la Rudylucion
Thanks for all of the insight
Well, try not to lose too much sleep over this one, guys. I hope the next game will be just as good.
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Thanks. All the close games going not our way tonight. Except Sactown beating the Lakers, but that's not really important :)
Viva la Rudylucion
Phil kept Kobe and Pau in the game until it ended
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
but on a serious note
why are you a Mavs homer?
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 9, 2008 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
For some masochistic reason I like jump-shooting teams, like the Blazers and Mavs :)
I have liked the Mavs since the mid to late 90s, almost as long as the Blazers. Especially after Dirk came there.
Viva la Rudylucion
Perhaps someday you and Marie will be able to consummate your mutual love of the Mavs
by attending a game together.
What happens afterwards would be anyone’s guess.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 10, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
he was great
he showed aggressiveness going to the rim on all thos putback dunks!
I have been wanting to see much more of this! he only wussed out a couple times, well below his avg!
They already racked up 9
in less than a minute earlier in the game >:( they couldn’t stop it TWICE
For those of you unhappy with certain parts of the team
Just a reminder that KP saw the same game you saw tonight.
While I don’t think there are any surprises for him at this point, this may help cement opinions for him…
Though I think Martell’s re-injury has adjusted any trade plans he had anyway.
No matter how well a team is coached or how good the players, mistakes will be made.
They’re human. It was an exciting game, I was thoroughly entertained, it’s too bad the Blazers lost.
The next game is in utah.
it was a good game
you can’t win on every last second shot.
ignacio
No moral victories
It’s not a good game if you lose.
Nope it was a moral victory and I'm cool with it
this team isn’t at the point where they can start saying stuff like that.
I hate bears
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Dec 9, 2008 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
I still can't believe we lost on a banked 3
C’mon Hedo, at least swish it so we can’t blame it on luck.
Boomshakalaka
The thing that does bug me.
Is that Howard fouled LMA before the shot clock violation.
honor rasheed wallace
Yeah but I think it was after the shot clock. If Roy could have just got the shot off a little higher it would have nicked the rim.
It sucks but Orlando is not a bad team to lose to.
by BRoyInThe4th on Dec 9, 2008 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Just got back from the game
I don’t know if this has already been mentioned, but we had a foul to give on the final possession. Outlaw looked primed to take it, but obviously never did. The final 54 seconds could not have played out any worse.
I would say Travis proved he's the guy who blows your championship for your team....
but he does that most nights— Cliffy losing the pass down low
Proved is a hard word.
Nothing was inconclusive tonight. We have a lot more games, a lot more basketball.
I dont think it's that hard....
In the words of comedian Ron White…."You can’t fix stupid!’
by loyal_blazer on Dec 9, 2008 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
I fixed it
by shutting off the Ron White CD – Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
and he made a 3 near the end that got taken away
somehow im sure that is his fault
ignacio
If we beat Utah on Thursday, I will be mighty impressed
This is a tough blow for Portland. It will be very interesting to see how they respond.
Boomshakalaka
MAYBE...........................
If Brandon makes some free throws in the 1st 3 quarters, it’s not an issue!
I'm sure he will accept responsibility
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
and take the blame.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Lucky shot...I'm sure Turk wasn't going for the bank
Blake time out was killer, and the turn over…Ugh
But the bank from distance was just lucky.
Hopefully it was an old TV
And you now have an excuse to upgrade!
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 9, 2008 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
We had a tough luck loss coming
The killer is that it didn’t need to come down to the final shot.
Lots of things had to happen for us to lose:
- Nelson had to hit the tough 3 to make it 108-103
- Blake had to turn the ball over
- Orlando had to grab the offensive board and hit Lewis for the 3
- Portland had to run another bad offensive possession
- Turkoglu had to make a lucky shot to win it
Boomshakalaka
I would like our tough losses come in games against teams like Utah and Phoenix that we lose most of the time anyway :)
Viva la Rudylucion
that sums it up for me
good night and sweet dreams!
ignacio
I kept thinking that this is how it must feel for other teams
when we get on a roll on our threes, don’t make anything from the paint and win the game.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
They came back from the Boston game just fine.
They will be alright. It will be tough in Utah though.
I was being sarcastic.
It was definitely a bank shot. I was asserting that we may not have lost.
honor rasheed wallace
Nate lost this one three times
Switching out of the Rudy/Sergio mode and in to the Roy iso mode with 5 1/2 minutes left.
Putting Blake in after sitting and cold with 2-3 minutes (?) left.
Callling the timeout with 53 seconds left and the flow tipping towards us. Result of timeout was Orlando had a trap and a plan to shut out Roy.
I agree with 2&3 but not 1
Roy has done it before.
Ok maybe not with 5 1/2 left
Maybe with 2:00 left
Tough call
Roy has done it so many times before vs. what’s working at the moment.
Roy iso mode was highly successful for 4 1/2 minutes
That timeout with 53 seconds left was fine. We had a 5 point lead and things were getting a little hectic. I liked that timeout. I also had no problem with Blake in down the stretch. He’s usually clutch. Today he was not.
i don’t put this one on Nate at all. I put it on the whole team for thinking they had the game won.
Boomshakalaka
I don't know, but don't u feel when Rudy sergio (the beggining of the 4th quarter) nothing could go wrong?
And we were hitting shot after shot
Then why change the game execution to isos??
When alridge was hitting the jumpers he was wide open because of he ball movement, everything was so smooth… well I repeat always the same, I think it’s clear what I think
well why change away from isos when it has worked for 2 years?
including the first 4.5 minutes it was used today?
Boomshakalaka
true Kartemax
Roy iso mode has fundamental weakness in what guys off the ball do. It’s psychological. Not in attack mode. That’s why seeing LMA and Roy working in to the Roy/Sergio mode tonight earlier in the fourth was the best I’ve seen this team play all year. Exciting! Nate stopped it.
Because you have to play the game you're in
We went on a huge run with that formula. You stay with it until it show signs of faltering…
Rudy's last assist made the score 91-87 with about 8 minutes left
With 2 min left, it was 108-100. Every basket in between was either scored or assisted by Roy. Roy iso-mode was working. It wasn’t just scoring (he had 3 assists in the last 6 minutes).
The last 2 minutes didn’t work. Its too bad. Your theorly that the rest of the team is psychologically not ready during Roy iso-mode is not convincing— last year Blake, Aldridge and Outlaw all made game winning shots.
Boomshakalaka
yes
there was a 12-0 run that made the score 85-81. After that, the teams traded baskets to get to 91-87. At that point, the Roy isos started. By the time the switch was made, the teams were already trading baskets. The run was over.
Boomshakalaka
Roy came back in the game
and there was still the Rudy/Sergio flow. Dominating with the crisp passing AND the Aldridge/Roy high pick and roll. First time I’ve seen that. Then, around 5 minutes left and they switch to Iso mode. Slow it down. And start trading baskets. I don’t know about you. but I prefer dominating to trading baskets…
the point here is
to go with what’s working. Some nights, the grind is all that works. Tonight was not one of those nights
not true
everything was working offensively tonight. The Blazers had 125.6 points/100 possessions— that’s huge. The Blazers had 4 empty possessions to end the game. Its partly Roy’s fault, partly Nate’s fault, partly Blake’s fault and partly the whole team’s fault for not coming to the ball when Roy got doubled. However, the offense was great virtually the whole game… it was the defense that was bad.
Boomshakalaka
A basketball game is not a collection of statistics
there is the character and momentum/flow of a game to consider as well. If you did not feel the dynamic change when Sergio came out in the fourth, or in the last few minutes when the team stopped playing team offense, then there is not much for us to talk about.
I'm saying...
the dynamic changed before Sergio came out. The run was over and teams were trading baskets. See my post above (response to Kartemex). It was time to go Roy, who has delivered numerous wins for the Blazers down the stretch.
Boomshakalaka
jk-
in my recollection. Roy and Aldridge came back in, but Sergio stayed in the game. During this stretch, true, Roy and LMA were doing the scoring, but there was still ball movement and dynamic offense. When Outlaw came in, and finally Blake, the dynamic shifted again. This was when the momentum shifted from dominating to “Let Brandon win the game.” Brandon often does, but the team tends to sit back. And this opened the door for the momentum shift that happened in the last minute. Basketball is a psychological war.
fair enough
Good discussing this with you.
I’ve seen the Blazers win a lot of close games. This time they choked. I think its on the players, but I respect your opinion.
Boomshakalaka
Just got back from the game
Hedo broke my heart. Sooooo many exciting/fun moments in this game that I cant enjoy now that we lost. It was a great game with a crappy ending.
I like Nate
But I wish he would better respond to what is happening on the court. Sergio carried the team during that stretch. First time I can say that. He earned the right to stay out there…
One of the things I really dislike..
is the players yukking it up during the game. Did you see LMA and Turkoglu laughing during a free throw attempt?
lol
yeah LMA didn’t have his game face on today. He really needed to focus more. /sarcasm.
Boomshakalaka
I know they are professionals
I just know when I am playing to win, I can’t be that nice to my opponents. That’s just me.
I still can't believe that happened...
When I saw that thing go down I couldn’t believe it…But hey let’s look at the positive, it’s not like Orlando is OKC, I mean they are a good team that got a lucky bank shot to fall. We probably should of lost at home already this season, so it was going to happen sooner or later. But this one still hurts.
I would rather it have been later
I liked the unbeaten at home thing.
Weird.
Why didn’t they foul a poor free throw shooter away from the ball? Orlando was coming off a back to back, so even if it went to overtime it probably wouldn’t have mattered.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 10:39 PM PST reply actions
you leave yourself vulnerable to a tip-in off a missed FT
I don’t think your odds are worse than a contested 3 from Turk.
Boomshakalaka
Man I was at the game.
Unbelievable. I bet Roy will feel this one cuz he missed allot of free throws.
It shows that we need another player that can split doubles. Cuz Roy cant do it himself.
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
Blazers two big needs:
1. Someone who can finish at the rim
2. Someone who can defend the perimeter
I think both these qualities in one player would be pretty spiffy.
honor rasheed wallace
Blazers defending at the perimeter brings a new dimension to the team.
It’ll be hard for Bayless to crack the regular rotation unless someone gets injured. He could be a stellar player and defender when he gets some real minutes=experience.
bad execution
down the stretch. Blake screwed up. Then Roy screwed up. You can not put yourself into a corner when you are being double teamed…especially when you are calling off screens. Aldridge played awesome!
The Blazers need another perimiter defender.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 10:51 PM PST reply actions
No
Changing personnel does not solve what happened tonight.
no it doesnt
We were up by 8 with a minute left against a hot shooting first place Orlando team. i’d say we have pretty good personnel to get in to that position. We just Bollocksed the ending.
yes it does
we should have been up 20 with a minute left.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 9, 2008 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
yes
trade Travis Outlaw… trade the lad, I tell ya.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 10, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
I agree that in general Blake is better at the end
Some of the people saying that Blake in at the end is a given didn’t see the game. I was there and I can say that ON THIS NIGHT Sergio should have been in. It did not lose us the game, but it is one of the small things in our control that would have been pretty sure to win us the game. Bayless is not ready to run the offense and I have not seen him be the defender he is claimed to be. I feel bad for Sergio, this would have a great win for him, he led us there with brandon, then was taken out and we lost. ALL this Said, Our team is Great! The lakers lost tonight. All teams will lose. We don’t need new guys, our guys will improve. Also, perhaps martell would have helped tonight.
The failure in inbounds the pass started the huge momentum shift
It ate our final timeout, and therefore the team couldn’t pause with the Roy double team/trap. That led to a bad shot, and further momentum loss. But the lucky bank was almost too much. Maybe if I go to sleep now, I’ll wake up that the Blazers really won like they should have….good night.
yes
that’s the second time this season when Blake has failed to get it in and fallen back on a time out, which would be fine, except for one thing, there were teammates open. from my perspective, Blake has some problems as an inbounder in these situations: 1) He focuses 95% on his first option, 2) when that option doesn’t get open, he’s already burned 3 seconds and totally locks up mentally, 3) and doesn’t even consider one of the other 3 players. Both in this game and last time he did this, there were people open for the pass, but Blake was tension-blind to them.
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
Travis
In 26 mins
10 pts
1 reb
1 ast
1 blk
0 stl
When you are dumb AND lazy, I have a problem… how about a couple more rebs? 1 more assist? How does that help all the blown plays he had?
Smoke blowing out my ears
Honestly...
great game, great effort, I have respect for the Magic so that one didn’t sting near as bad as the Boston loss. So far on 50/50 chance buzzer beater games, we are ahead, and that is a great feeling. Guess we know how Rockets/Raptors feel now, just some bad luck and unlucky bounces, missed free throws and silly events, we will learn, we will grow and we will win these in the future
65.....
Both teams played hard
Karma came back to bite us. .08 against Houston. This team has nothing to feel bad about.
If you have nothing constructive to say about someone, I prefer that you say nothing at all.
"If Jumping to conclusions, Kicking others when they do not do well and Launching into senseless tirades were Olympic Events, some people around here would be Medal Contenders". Me
due for the loss
we have one more than a couple of games based upon the luck of the last possessions..
one possession games will not always go your way..
but why did this end up as a one possession game anyhow? Great start and great team.. but all of the problems that are apparent when the Blazers let teams back in or fall apart in certain stretches are still there whether we win or lose games like these.
Boycott Rose Garden Concessions!!!
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/11/8/657044/boycotting-rose-garden-con
this was my exact thinking and why i came back tonight
I was flabbergasted and dumbfounded at the outcome. it quite frankly left me speechless. Now, I’ve had some time to chew on it and I think we were just due to lose one in this manner. We’ve won so many this season like this that you can’t possibly hope to win them all. I’d rather it wasn’t on our home floor, but it is what it is. It’s just 1 loss out of 82 games, and hopefully won’t amount to much in the long run. I think they will all learn a thing or two from this game and not let the same mistakes happen. We took a taste of our own medicine and it tastes icky. Better luck next time fellas! At least they didn’t embarrass us on our home floor as we did to them.
Every child must be encouraged to get as much education as he has the ability to take. We want this not only for his sake-but for the nation's sake. Nothing matters more to the future of our country: not military preparations-for armed might is worthless if we lack the brain power to build a world of peace; not our productive economy-for we cannot sustain growth without trained manpower; not our democratic system of government-for freedom is fragile if citizens are ignorant.
-President Lyndon B. Johnson
If we can beat Utah
we have 2 softies (at home) in a row. That could give us a 3 game streak to build momentum and we’d be 18-8. It hurts but its time to put this one behind us.
winning in Utah
easier said then done. Also, one of those softies just beat the Lakers tonight. You are right though, its time to put it behind us. We’re learn a lot about this team on Thursday.
Boomshakalaka
well they are soft without Martin
Plus even if they do have Martin, we got B Roy
by SteveBlakeFan on Dec 10, 2008 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
What was up with the zone in the 3rd quarter?
Magic was dropping buckets of 3s on our heads, and instead of focusing on hard-nosed man-to-man D, Nate goes to ZONE for like 4 possessions in a row, the Magic hitting 3 wide-open 3s and going up by nine. When a team is hitting open 3s, you don’t switch to zone, it makes no sense. I was pulling my hair out in section 318.
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
I don't think I've said this enough this year
The Blazer Zone hasn’t worked since December 07. Teams actually know how to play against it. This game was lost on the defensive end, not a couple of offensive possessions.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
this I agree with
Some teams are able to get pressure on shooters from a zone D (the Syracuse Orange NCAA championship team a few years back was a great example of this), but I haven’t seen any evidence that the Blazers are one of those teams. It was a puzzling move, to be sure.
Boomshakalaka
It's from Jethro Tull
When I was young and they packed me off to school
And they told me how not to play the game
I didn’t mind if they groomed me for success (ptui)
Or if they said that I was just a fool
- Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
Bummer.
But if you only play one quarter of defense and expect to scrap out a win at the end against a descent team we can expect these results half of the time.
I wish these fellows would play some defense for an entire game. It doesn’t seem like the lessons from the Boston game have had any impact yet.
Blake should have been in at the end
As some may know, I’m a little bit of a Sergio fan, but I just wanted to say that I thought subbing in Blake was the right move. He has performed well this year in crunch time, and the team is used to having him in the game in those situations. His missed wide-open 3 and TO in the last 2 were brutal exceptions to the rule of his usual reliability. Sometimes it goes awry, but Nate was playing the right odds. Blake has shown this season that he can come in cold and hit the daggers and protect the ball, and that is why he was in.
Sergio and Rudy helped get us a lead and Sergio left the game with a +11, handing the PG role to Blake to close it out, and I think that was the right call. Tonight, it just didn’t work as planned.
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
by sergioFTW on Dec 9, 2008 11:38 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
the only thing is
Blake seemed out of it all game..
but you are right.. he is generally the right guy for those situations.. but he doesn’t excel in high ball pressure situations..
Boycott Rose Garden Concessions!!!
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/11/8/657044/boycotting-rose-garden-con
Don’t know which of the announcers said it, but Rudy and Blake are also the best free throw shooters at almost 95% and Nate might have wanted to put him in if the Magic start to foul.
Viva la Rudylucion
yup - although sergio was pretty nice on the line tonight
Boycott Rose Garden Concessions!!!
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/11/8/657044/boycotting-rose-garden-con
that so sucked!
passing is as important as dribbling to break a trap/double team. And you need the other players on the court to respond. Blake did look out of it tonight. Don’t know why Nate didn’t see it. I was screaming for them to leave Sergio in!
Dang it, dang it, dang it. I guess it was better to have lost my internet connection
so that I wasn’t forced to watch the horrible denouement. Dang it.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
I was in 317...
And during the 2 minute timeout, they were launching tshirts into the arena like they typically do to excite the crowd. I was standing cheering laughing and pointing at all the fools who can’t catch the lame tshirts like the were Braylon Edwards alone in the middle with a spiral pigskin tossed from DA.
As I pointed, a tshirt was flying about 30 mph towards my noggin, and I did a full Matrix move, and the tshirt hits the guy behind me who was being lame and texting with his BB Curve. The curve went flying, knocked over his buddy’s beer, and landed in the dude’s beer next to him. We were all laughing hysterically.
The shirt just disappeared. We figured it dropped in one of those seats. We were up 8, and they were all giving me hi-fives for the Matrix move. My reaction was just pure joy and happiness.
2 minutes later my reaction was just like everyone else. As we watched everyone leave, I saw the rolled up t-shirt under the seats of the guys above us. Picked it up and tossed it to a kid.
That was it. 99 out of 100 times it wouldn’t hit me and hit the guys behind me if i was paying attention. The guy who got his BB knocked over said that was 1 in a million chance it hit him but it was his fault for not paying attention.
Next time, I probably still be laughing but paying more attention to the rocket launchers. I like my chances that this scenario wouldn’t happen again and I wouldn’t trade any of the blissful moments that put me in that position to begin with.
I agree with the guy with the beer infested Blackberry Curve, “it happens.”
"I'm pooping a win for the Blazers too!" - my 1yr old.
bye Kartemex
good discussing the game with you, even though we didn’t agree on much today. Take care.
Boomshakalaka
JUST A THOUGHT...
……………………… If you’re gonna go iso with Brandon in crunch time, it might be a good idea to have him playing the 2, at the top of the key with right and left options, than to have him playing the 3 in a small ball lineup, double-teamed in the corner.
And it might also be good to have a Center on the floor to rebound and put back any miss that he might make driving the lane.
Nate got cutesy flipping up his finishing lineup and the team paid the price.
ON HIM.
Game’s done. Next.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Ridiculous.
When Nate went to small ball, the score was 89-87. Portland built the lead to 108-100. We were beaten by three 3-balls in the final minute, non of which would have been prevented by a center. Tough loss. Not on Nate.
Next.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 12:05 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Timbo has cognitive dissonance
Before the barrage of 3 pointers in the last 2 minutes. Orlando scored only 19 points in the 4th while the Blazers scored 28 points. The Magic got hot from the perimeter.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Small ball is a risky strategy designed to create offensive mismatches and put up lots of points at a greater rate than the lots of points allowed from lack of defense.
It is NOT NOT NOT something that you want to go to for defensive stands, as was neatly demonstrated. You pull your goalie to create an extra attacker, to use the incredibly appropriate hockey metaphor…
Up 8 with just over 2 minutes left is TIME FOR THE BIG UNIT AND THE HALFCOURT GRIND.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
you still haven't explained
how a Center would have helped defend the 3. We gave up 3 threes to lose the game (one of which Joel was in the game for). You still haven’t explained… at all… how a Center would have changed the outcome.
Boomshakalaka
Hey Ben,
were you at the game tonight? just curious….
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
yes… media row report just posted…
Draft Kyle Singler.
by Ben Golliver on Dec 10, 2008 12:48 AM PST up reply actions
The way I see it
There wasn’t anything that happened in that game that you could point to as a weakness or reoccurring trend in the blazers’ game. The Magic were hot and were destined to win that game. outside of the first half we played outstanding, but the Magic kept hitting 3’s and when they are flling there isn’t much you can do when your own 3s aren’t falling
Enough of the blame game and the woe is me
This is the NBA. Any team can beat any team by getting lucky (bank in 3 is lucky, no matter how you slice it) or by playing above their heads (Jameer Nelson, anyone?). Tip your hats to the Magic, focus on the good things the Blazers have accomplished, and move on. 3 times out of 4 we win this game; today was the 1 out of 4.
This is why we play 82 games. These things happen to the best of teams. The 72-10 Bulls lost to one of the worst teams in the league, and lost again the next game (might have been vice versa). You don’t get all annoyed and start calling for the coach’s head. Irritates me.
I actually enjoyed this game. How about those alley-oops to Rudy? LaMarcus’s deadly shooting? Joel Przybilla hitting the shot and the foul after the between-the-legs pass by Rudy? Sergio looking like an NBA point guard? Dwight Howard held to a shell of himself? I think this game was played quite well, and if not for 3 miraculous long-balls we walk away with a satisfying win.
"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan
noone's
telling you how to feel about the loss…not sure why you think you should tell others…
Blazin'
I’m not telling you how to feel. You can feel however you darn want to. Something about this loss rubbed you the wrong way…okay, post a comment about it. But you don’t need to reply to every post, challenging everyone that feels differently.
I know you’re better than how you’ve been on this particular thread—I’ve enjoyed other comments from you in other situations.
"Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live." - Anthony Carter
right on dude
I enjoyed the game tremendously — right up until the final 30 seconds or so when things were starting to look rather inauspicious.
I think this was one of the best games the Blazers have played all year. And our play was built on solid foundations. Good ball movement, good defense (though there were stretches of bad defense too), and phenomenal play from LMA and Roy.
We played toe to toe with a championship contender. And we played them even. If they hadn’t had that uncharacteristically electric shooting performance from Jameer Nelson, we would have won this game fairly easily. Or if Roy had not missed five free throws we would have won. Those things are not going to happen very often. Technically we lost but in spirit we won, so I enjoyed the game and I am quite happy this morning.
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
I agree
while it wasn’t a “moral victory” (I’m beyond using that phrase) it was a well fought game of NBA basketball, and I am a basketball fan first and a Blazers fan second.
"Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live." - Anthony Carter
Really?
If it wasn’t for Outlaw, Frye, and crappy coaching by Nate, the Blazers would be undefeated. If we get rid of those three, the Blazers will go 82-0 next year. I suggest replacing all three with people from this blog.
I think they can use a new hotdog vendor on the concourse. Career opportunities?
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Bad Timeout
IMHO the timeout Nate called with Brandon coming up the floor with the ball was a poor one…..when you have the lead and your opponent has only 1 timeout left you shouldnt give them a free stoppage and a chance to set up their defense. They werent in a good position to double Brandon on that play and I think he could have created a good possession instead of the disaster that evolved out of Nate’s timeout.
And although Blake has been clutch at the end of games he was just off all night and Sergio didnt do anything to deserve getting yanked…..he played prob the best game of his career and I dont see the justification to pull him there.
I was at the game and when I saw Nate chasing Roy up the floor screaming for a timeout it just didnt seem like the right call…….
That has to be the worst 2-3 possessions Blake has ever had. I am sure he feels terrible (or turrble as Barkley would say).
Let’s hope they take their frustration and make it into a great game at Utah.
And I have to say it since its been evident since the pre-season..oden just looks like he would rather be anywhere else but on the bball court…..he’s a very nice guy and I dont want a Garnett-idiot but he just doesnt seem to have any intensity or joy in his game…looks like he is at an insurance conference…bored…..depressed….tired…and anxious to just have it be over…. I wonder if something is going on with him outside of the game thats affecting him….. we all want him to succeed so badly….too bad he doesnt seem to be embracing the experience……
TP FOR 3
by WhereInTheWorldIsDontonioWingfield on Dec 10, 2008 9:34 AM PST reply actions
TrueHoop
had a brief article recently saying that a majority of NBA players are depressed. Maybe that’s what the problem is.
"Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live." - Anthony Carter
Travis Outlaw should be depressed
I’d be depressed if I played like him.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 10, 2008 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
you gotta promise to take that back
if he goes for 30 vs Utah. – elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
sure, I'll make that promise
now worries about taking that promise, cuz I know there is no way it happens.
Travis peaked last season. He’s improved his outside shot this season, but defenses are learning to defend him, so it’s been a wash. His rebounding and defense looks ok sometimes, but it’s not consistent.
All those minutes last night and 1 rebound, 1 assist,…. yuck, yuck, yuck.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 10, 2008 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
another Outlaw hater taking lessons from blazerfan1
Travis will not peak for another 3-4 years. He is still expanding his game and adding new moves. And he is making steady progress on defense and rebounds.
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
If we give Travis 10 years in the league to reach his potential
then we should be fair and give everyone that long.
Sorry, doesn’t work that way. There are certain “intangibles” and things like a BBIQ that some players will never develop. Travis has been given ample time to do so and now you ask for 3-4 more years.
I don’t want to take a chance on a 6-year veteran who still needs time to develop. I’d rather take a chance on a 19-year French dude and Martell (4th year in the league… and he need to recover from his injury).
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 10, 2008 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
KP has said he likes guys that come from big schools and...
that have played big games in college. Travis neither went to college, has played in any playoff games nor was a KP draft pick. I see KP sending him packing along with RLEC at or before the trade deadline.
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