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Rubio's draft stock slipping, could he possibly become possible?

I was reading this draft stock article in ESPN where is has Ricky Rubio in the "bad" (or stock dropping) section mainly because of his lack of contribution in his league right now (mostly due to an injury). Could Rubio become possibly available for Pritchard to aquier in a trade or directly with a pick in the 20's (highly unlikely still)? What are everyone's thoughts on Rubio and his NBA prospects? What about him possibly being on our team and finishing out the spanish trio (unless we may have to give away Sergio to get him)?

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Maybe.

Interestingly enough, the Knicks have a trade exception from the Rondo Balkman deal. There has been talk of the Blazers sending Sergio over using the exception so they don’t have to take players back.

The Blazers could send Sergio and some second round picks to New York for their first round pick next year. From a cap standpoint it would save New York a couple million in 2010 and they would get a nice PG in Sergio who fits the system. Portland would be free to give more minutes to Bayless while still having a shot at Rubio in 2009. It sounds like a good deal for everyone.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 8, 2008 11:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Don't think New York can trade 1st round picks in so many consecutive years

Since they owe the Jazz either this year’s pick or next year’s pick.

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by Clevelander among roses on Dec 9, 2008 12:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think they can...

if it’s not at the same time as the other year… I think the Knicks could trade Utah their ‘10 pick and us their ’09 pick, potentially. I’d rather go for the Grizzlies or someone similar though.

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by Cablinasian on Dec 9, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If the picks are future picks then they both can be traded

Since the Knicks pick is already traded away, any deals involving that pick will need to happen after the draft
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q71

by tingeyga on Dec 9, 2008 7:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rubio Vs Jennings December 11th... can't wait

Rubio would have to be actually slipping for us to have a realistic shot at him. At this time last year I was touting Derrick Rose as the guy we HAD to get. Only the stupid team didn’t cooperate at all, and started winning at a ridiculous rate. The thing about Rubio is, like Rose, when he enters the draft, he’s not a guy teams trade away the draft rights to. He’s basically going to cost you LaMarcus Aldridge at minimum. Like Devin Harris or Jose Calderon, the value simply can’t be matched by quantity over quality. He plays a premium position, would make an awesome salary for 4 years and has enough magic both defensively and offensively to make a majority of teams around the league drool.

Do I give up LMA for him? I can’t be any more 50/50 than I am right now. I know no one around these parts wants to hear that… but Rubio IS that special. Defensively he looks like Rondo out there. He changes the way you can play defense.

by as11osu on Dec 9, 2008 12:04 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rubio is no where near Rose.

Sorry, I just don’t see it. Dwyane Wade said Rudy was amazing, but Rubio was just pretty good and not anywhere near a number one pick.

I think Rubio has a lot of great things to offer, but I’m not even sure he’s even a better pick than Brandon Jennings.

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 12:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At the end of the year it won't be a question...

Rubio goes 1, 2 or 3. Neither Thabeet, Griffin or Rubio will get past the 3 spot. I called out Rose as the #1 overall player last year, and I’m doing it for Rubio this year. The perimeter is more important than ever, and Rubio is the only one of those 3 that is elite on both ends of the court. Jennings is a spectacular athlete, but doesn’t have the defensive instincts that Rubio does.

by as11osu on Dec 9, 2008 12:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I also predicted Rose would go #1.

Big deal.

The fact that you, me and about a million other people predicted an obvious top 3 pick would go number 1 doesn’t mean anything. He was being talked about as being a possible #1 pick in high-school.

I’m not saying that Rubio won’t go in the top 3, but I thinks it’s unlikely. His European numbers won’t look as good compared to college point guards and his Olympics performance will be a distant memory.

Again, I think he’s great, but you can’t really talk about him in the same breath as Rose. Not yet at least.

He’s basically going to cost you LaMarcus Aldridge at minimum.

I just think that’s way off base. Rubio is special, but not that special. His value is probably a little above where Bayless was at this time last year.

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 1:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rubio's career right now is leaps and bounds better than Rose's was last year
Again, I think he’s great, but you can’t really talk about him in the same breath as Rose. Not yet at least.

He’s been playing in the highest ranks of professional ball since he was 14 years old (he just turned 18), and has played well in those leagues (vs grown men). He also played extremely well in the Olympics including against the dominant U.S. team.

If you really honestly believe he’s at the same point Bayless was at last year, I think you’re drastically underestimating him, or you drastically overrated Bayless last year. Portland is one of maybe 4 or 5 places that can actually use Bayless in a successful manner. Rubio could be successful anywhere, in any type of offense or defense.

by as11osu on Dec 9, 2008 2:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In the highest ranks?

Has he played an NBA game?

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by hobobob on Dec 9, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This would be a solid thing to say...

ten years ago.

NBA is still the big show, but international basketball is waaaaaaayyy more legit in recent years. At least as legit as the NCAA.

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by everett on Dec 9, 2008 6:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Rubio goes 1,2, or 3.

He needs to shoot much better for that to happen. The comparisons of him to Pistol Pete are ludicrous.

"Maurice Lucas walked past, and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his playing career, because, "Back then, it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth.""

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 9, 2008 7:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

im with you. i think rubio is top 3.

Draft Kyle Singler.

by Ben. on Dec 9, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If Rubio slides to 25 or so

where we’ll be drafting, you HAVE to wonder what is wrong with him. He’s been a top-3 prospect for the last year or more. To have him suddenly drop to a below top 10 would be fishy, and out of the top 20 would be a big red flag

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by prezofdeath on Dec 9, 2008 12:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

as far as trading goes though, who knows. I think you really gotta’ see how the season finishes out….

what blake is doing, how sergio has progressed, and if bayless is getting any burn.

Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket

by prezofdeath on Dec 9, 2008 12:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't that annoy Sergio

First he loses his national team spot to Ricky, now he has to compete with him for minutes on the Blazers…hmmm…

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by Clevelander among roses on Dec 9, 2008 12:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

depends on how mentally strong Sergio is. Usually competition is great in any field you to improve your skills.

IF I were Sergio I would analize the Blake’s and Jerryd’s strenghs while practicing and would try to make them mine.

by cbp on Dec 9, 2008 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Contraire how can you say this after our Batum steal.

Another European player that was projected in the top 10 and then dropped like a rock. To be fair his had a lot to do with reported health issues, but still I think with players in Europe it is a lot easier for them to slide. There seems to be an umcomfortability still with the unknown factor as to how their game will translate to the nba, and NBA teams don’t like to wait on players with the risk that they may never come over. I could see that as being as much of an issue in his stock dropping as any injury or struggles in play through the year. With all of that I don’t see him dropping past 15. So in any event the Blazers will have to trade up, but that’s what 4 2nd round picks can help with, along with possibly Koppenafeeln.

by Titlein2011 on Dec 9, 2008 8:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Horrible economic decision...

With players like him that want to eventually join the NBA, its best to get the rookie contract out of the way as soon as possible.

by as11osu on Dec 9, 2008 3:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe not...

If he comes over to the states with a more refined game he could sign a much larger contract after his rookie deal. If he “gets his rookie deal out of the way” and spends the whole time developing a game and coming off the bench he might get a much smaller veteran contract as he hasn’t had a chance to prove himself. Also, I’m going to guess he’s making way more in endorsements in Spain than here.

by erastus25 on Dec 9, 2008 7:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya... cuz thats what happens with top 5 picks...

they sit on the pine for 5 years waiting for their shot. He plays 30 minutes a game from day 1. When he’s 24 years old, he’ll have done enough for that 2nd contract to be larger than 3 or 4 million per year. The economic decision is pretty cut and dry to make it into the NBA as soon as possible.

by as11osu on Dec 9, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But why? :-(

If we get him, he’ll be awesome, an allstar!

If we don’t get him, he’s too unathletic to be a NBA PG, no more room to improve because he has all the mental aspects of the game down, and he can’t shoot. He’s overrated! What a bum!

Only by having KP magically bestow his amazingness on Rubio will Rubio be able to become a good NBA player.

Why does he wanna stay so long? Tell him he is too young to get married, if it’s about a girl. Hell, we’ll draft her too if he wants. Maybe let him know that Batum was gonna be a lottery pick at one point as well, and he was able to fall in the draft because of KP’s trickery, so we can do the same thing to him. I think a nice little harmless rumor that Rubio has AIDs will do the trick!

On draft day, the report saying he does NOT have AIDs will somehow not get past KP’s desk, he falls to pick 28, and right into our scheming claws. The NBA was hoodwinked again by the Blazers!

Can he not buy himself out of his contract until 2010?

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 9, 2008 3:21 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

lot of reasons to stay in Europe:

1.- not making the same path than Sergio. Minimize the risk to be too raw for NBA game
2.- Improving his shooting.
3.- Ruling Europe for a couple of years.
4.- making enjoy us by watching him play and win here in Europe for a while until he gets to NBA. I’ll put some money if necessary.
5.- He is JUST 18 YO!!!!!!!!!!!,
6.- Finally, he already earns a lot of money compared to any other teenager here in Spain.

But the most important one he has great advisers who tell him to stay in Europe until he gets bored of winning in Europe. By the way one of his advisers is Rudy.

by cbp on Dec 9, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All of those are bad reasons to stay

1) If he goes high in the draft, he’ll play for a team that needs him. No chance of being in a Serigo situtation.

2) He’ll need to adjust to NBA shots anyway. Why not improve it using the best coaches in the world.

3) Will only set back his plans to rule America, which in Basketball terms is the chosen land

4) There are many more fans here. Any good utilitarian would tell you that he’d achieve more enjoyment for his fans if he had more fans.

5) I can’t understand how him coming over here would make him older

6) Maybe he does, but the plan should be to earn more money over the course of his career. A good comparision would be NBA players earnings rather than Spanish teens. I earn way more than your average Spanish teen too. It’s not saying much.

Given that none of your reasons for him to stay are good reasons, that calls into question the greatness of his advisors. Rudy just doesn’t want the competition for Spanish flags in NY or his countrymen to get worn out waiving those flags around.

I totally understand why you’d want Rubio to stay. I would as well. But, the decision should be pretty simple.

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by hobobob on Dec 9, 2008 3:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His draft stock is as high as it's ever going to get.

Top five is just about as good as it gets. If his ultimate goal is to come to the NBA this is probably the best time.

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 3:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you misunderstand me.

I want Rubio to play in NBA but not next year. Maybe in 3 years it will be the right time.

1) No sure I want him to play in a loser team as Grizzlies.
2) Adjustment will be easy if he shots better than he currently does (look at Rudy, almost no adjustment )
3) Ruling Europe for 3 years would be wonderful, then ruling America
4) LOL I don’t mind amercians fans but myself as his fan.
5) I meant he is too young. Players use to join NBA at 21-23. So if he joins in three years he will be 21. No time wasted.
6)If he spends 10-15 years in NBA he will get a lot of money no matter if he starts at 18 or 21. For the coming 3 years he will have enough money to live great by playing in Europe.

by cbp on Dec 10, 2008 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent point

Are we even sure that Rubio is going to declare for the draft?

by tingeyga on Dec 9, 2008 8:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, I sure hope we don't get him

The last thing the Blazers need is to get younger, especially at point guard. Throw in the language difference and I think adding Rubio will set back the Blazers development. Oh yeah, we also already have Bayless.

by tominhawaii on Dec 9, 2008 3:52 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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by hobobob on Dec 9, 2008 3:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rubio is precocious...

That good at that age? Gosh that’s swell.

It’s a far, far leap from “precocious” to “superstar” and I really don’t understand the obsession with him…

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by timbo on Dec 9, 2008 8:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

He's Euorpean

That explains the obsession, just not the obsession with Europeans.

by tominhawaii on Dec 9, 2008 8:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some scouts are arguing Rubio is not so much "better" as he is "ahead of the curve"

So he was really good at a very young age, but won’t improve at that same rate to become insanely great. That being said, if you are looking for a very young pass-first point guard with really good ball-hawking skills on defense, look no further. If you are looking for a scorer and outside shooter, that is not there yet.

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by Norsktroll on Dec 9, 2008 9:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

scouts said the same thing about OJ Mayo

he supposedly peaked at age 18 and would struggle to put up big offensive numbers in the NBA.

by sfiles on Dec 9, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and then with that conviction last week...

stuff is really bad for that guy.

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by everett on Dec 9, 2008 6:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Ford still has Rubio as the #3 pick

behind Blake Griffin and Hasheem Thabeet— so he hasn’t fallen that far. Moving into the top 3 picks, just like last year, would cost Portland something like Aldridge+Outlaw+a first rounder… at least.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 9, 2008 11:15 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Why would it cost more than Aldridge?

Aldridge is a #2 pick who plays like a #2 pick.

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

Aldridge is a PF who is a poor rebounder and an inefficient shooter. He shows flashes of brilliance, but in year 3 he ought to be more consistent. According to PER, Aldridge has been the 15th best PF this year (and PER overrates scorers). According to “Win Scores,” which penalizes inefficient shooters more, he’s a below average PF. Aldridge still has the potential (see 3rd quarter @ Toronto) but has a long way to go. He’s one of the better players from that draft… but that was the weakest draft in recent memory.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 9, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It would really depend more on who is trading that pick...

If they already have the rest in place, a guy like LMA would be the perfect add on. This draft is maybe the weakest of all time at PF after Blake Griffin. If a team needing a PF has a pick outside of the top spot (assuming Griffin goes #1), and they already have their PG and defensive C, LaMarcus Aldridge becomes just about as good a value as you’re going to get. A team like Washington, who assumes they have their long term answers at the other spots (Arenas, McGee, Butler, Young) would more than likely be willing to deal the #2 pick for LaMarcus.

by as11osu on Dec 9, 2008 12:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you are right that this is a weak draft.... especially if Ricky is not in it

Hasheem Thabeet is a pretty underwhelming #2 pick if you ask me (he could be Mutombo… or he could be Johan Petro).

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 9, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The draft is below average, but the point I was trying to make

was that after Blake Griffin, there are 0 even remotely legitimate PF’s in it (and only one other big worth a darn), so that would put LMA’s value at least as high as any of those guys. LMA for Rubio is a fair trade, obviously team dependent. From our experience, we should already know how much harder it is to find PG’s and C’s in this league, making the opening at PF instead of PG is huge. The list is long and illustrious of the potential FA PF’s in the next 2 years, and we’d be an ideal situation for the majority of them.

by as11osu on Dec 9, 2008 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

bpa bpa bpa

KP is not the only GM smart enough to go by the BPA philosophy. Positions are overrated. Value is underrated. Your Washington example is really good though— if there’s a team that would be willing to trade out of the #2 slot, they are it.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 9, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

2008 draft- Beasly is 42nd among power forwards with a PER of 14.3.
2007 draft- Durrant has a PER of 17.6 (same as Aldridge)
2005 draft- Marvin Williams is ranked 25th among power forwards with a PER of 16.48
2004 draft- Emeka Okafor is ranked 11th among center (behind Pryzbilla) with a PER of 18
2003 draft- Darko Milicic is ranked 54th among power forwards with a PER of 11.76
2002 draft- Jay WIlliams is out of the league.
2001 draft- Tyson Chandler has a PER of 12.7 and is ranked 34th among centers.
2000 draft- Stromile Swift is(was) terrible. He has a PER of 8.99 and is ranked 70th among power forwards.
1999 draft- Steve Francis won the slam dunk contest. That’s pretty neat.

There are only four #2 picks in the past 9 years who are on the same level as Aldridge, but none of them are a more valuable player. ALdridge is arguably the BEST 2nd overall pick since 1998. I’m going to have to revise me previous statement.

Aldridge is a #2 pick who is playing BETTER than most #2 picks.

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ok but if you are holding the #2 pick...

… you want to pick on the potential of greatness, not the certainty of goodness. Teams holding the #2 pick tend to be really bad, rebuilding and in need of a franchise cornerstone. Aldridge is not a franchise player… Rubio might be. The only team that might trade out of the #2 slot for Aldridge is a solid team that got the #2 pick via a combination of injuries and luck (the Washington example as11osu gives is a pretty good one, but even they would probobly ask for more).

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 9, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You might be right.

Teams who rebuilding tend to love draft picks because they are cheap. I just don’t think Rubio is a “franchise player” IMHO.Let’s see how he does in the NBA first.

Another problem Rubio has is that Stephon Curry is killing it. He is averaging 31.3 points, 6.4 assists, and 3 steals in 33 minutes. Derrick Rose averaged 15 points, 5 assists with a lower fg% and 3p%.

If Curry keeps his game up I can’t imagine teams not being tempted to take him above Rubio.

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

those stats CAN'T BE use to compare to ACB stats where team basketball is first than anyting else.

It is the same thing than summer league. Bayless was awesome while Batum not. Maybe, one was playing for himself while the other for the team.

by cbp on Dec 9, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he was comparing Curry's stats to Rubio's

… just pointing out that they are amazing (Stephon Curry sees double teams all the time—defenses put all their efforts into stopping him— I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a more impressive shooter).

Also, college stats are much better at predicting NBA success than summer league stats. Summer league stats are worthless at predicting anything. Batum came from nowhere— I don’t think anyone predicted him to be successful this early.

However, you are absolutely correct that direct stats can never be used to compare ACB players with US college players.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 9, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Curry fascinates me

He has indeed been absolutely killing it this year. It sounds like a moot point (as Rubio probobly won’t declare this year— and Curry might not either), but as impressive as Steph has been, it doesn’t stand up to Rubio giving CP3/Kidd/DWill all they could handle in the gold medal game… at age 16.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 9, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Rubio was expected to declare this year.

Has he said it or is it still up for debate?

I think the most impressive thing about Rubio is that he already plays like an adult. Roy and Rudy had the same vibe about them when they came into the league.

How about Curry? He looks like he would fit our system.

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

First off, Curry isn't in Rubio's world as a prospect

He’s two and a half years older, he’s a tweener, without a real position, who relies on his shot to get by. He also plays in the inferior league and an extremely inferior conference compared to Rubio.

That said, I also believe Curry could be a good fit here, he’s just not the kind of potential franchise changing PG that Rubio could potentially be. If Curry somehow makes it to a contender, be scared. He’s not a guy you want to see getting open shots. He has maybe the best stroke of anyone in college history, and he’s the only player on the entire team people have to pay attention to.

by as11osu on Dec 9, 2008 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

First off, Curry isn’t in Rubio’s world as a prospect

Last year that was true. Curry worked all summer with trainers and really developed his PG skills. Compare his numbers from last year. I don’t think he’s much of a “tweener” anymore.

2007- 25.9 points, 2.9 assists, 1.12 A/T
2008- 31.3 points, 6.4 assists, 2.37 A/T

He’s scoring TWICE as many points as Derrick Rose did and still getting more assists. He’s also blowing the doors off the numbers Bayless put up in college. We will see if it holds up as the year goes on, but if the draft was today I’m guessing he would be the #1 PG prospect in the country.

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 6:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rubio has never, in his career played anyone as bad as

the people Curry goes up against on a daily basis. Guilford, James Madison, Winthrop, Florida Atlantic, Loyola (MD) who are these teams? Had I not opted for an education, I could probably be the point guard for one of them. Take a look at his conference… its even worse. All that said, and he’s only shooting 40% from the college 3. That isn’t all that impressive considering how short that is. Rubio goes up against professional men, and looked good in the Olympics versus the best players in the world. You really are mistaken putting Curry in Rubio’s realm.

by as11osu on Dec 9, 2008 6:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

?
Rubio has never, in his career played anyone as bad as the people Curry goes up against on a daily basis.

Um… Yeah, that’s not true. Spain has great players, but not everyone over there is the cream of the crop. A bunch of the guys Curry is playing against right now will probably go over there after college.

He’s only shooting 40% from the college 3

That’s kind of a silly point since Rubio is not a very good shooter. Rubio shot 29.9% from the three point line last year. Derrick Rose shot 33% . Brandon Roy shot 40% in college. Big deal. Curry will probably be the best shooter in next years draft.

Rubio is a great defender, which is a skill Curry doesn’t really have. Rubio is also probably better at running a team. As far as scoring goes however, it’s not even close.

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 9, 2008 7:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the "we already have him" argument,

but Bayless and Curry are really similar.

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by everett on Dec 9, 2008 6:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

One of the biggest assets of RUBIO is..

….how his defense influence on the offense of the other team. The PG, who attacks Rubio, can’t manage and give orders as he must be focused on protecting the ball from Rubio’s hands and if he gets to set the play, he has to deliver the ball but it would be very tough to give a good pass, so there is a great chance if the defense is aggresive the team steals the ball.

At least this is in ACB league. Both Rubio and his teammates last year were the team which stole more balls.

by cbp on Dec 9, 2008 12:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

RUBIO BEING A BLAZER IS HIGHLY HIGHLY IMPROBABLE

He´s not going to declare elegible till 2010 (maybe 2011) and then there´s NO WAY he´s not TOP-3 (If he can improve his shot and develop his child body it´s not unlikely he becomes nº1) He´s not precocious, he´s a SPECIAL talent.

by Datmater on Dec 9, 2008 12:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If KP deems Rubio his guy, he certainly has the assets and talent to go get him.

Our team is oozing with tradable assets and all of our draft picks from here on out are completely expendable.

If Kevin really wants Ricky, I am certain he will go and get him.

BTW, Rubio will go 2-5 if he comes out this year.

by LOOSH on Dec 9, 2008 1:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

BRANDON + RICKY?

Another question is: Ricky and Brandon are compatible?, both need the ball to shine, Ricky is never going to assume Blake’s role, since he likes being a creator, a facilitator. I think it would not work.

by Datmater on Dec 9, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agree...

But Roy can do whatever. It is more the offense style than anything else.

I think the Blazers offense is influenced by the type of PG Blake is, so that makes Roy to assume the role he is playing. I mean if Blake wasn’t the starting PG I think Blazers offense wouldn’t be the way currently is.

by cbp on Dec 9, 2008 1:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Opposite thoughts

I think it is Roy who influences the offense, Blake only fills remaining spots…

by Datmater on Dec 9, 2008 2:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Latest images from Ricky s comeback

It only lasted 3 minutes, he injured his hand again… but there are some glimpses of quality…
http://acbtv.acb.com/video/1108

by Datmater on Dec 9, 2008 2:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sadly it's unlikely that Rubio will play for Portland...

… but if this happens, man, be prepared to see what “spanish connection” really means playing him with Rudy, they know each other like brothers after playing long years in DKV Joventut.
But, for me, the real next step in the NBA is to hire an european coach… when this will happen?
Maybe some of those teams with no franchise player will be the first to import a european, team-focused coach? Will the Raptors sign Ettore Messina for the next season?

by ABSF on Dec 9, 2008 3:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If anyone is gonna

The Raptors GOTTA be the most likely, what with a coaching vacancy and their current staff’s ties to Europe.

I’d almost be surprised if they DIDN’T try for a big Euro coach… they’re set up for that style of play and the Colangelo led front office would be very receptive towards a big time Euro coach.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens. I hope they do make that choice, because it’ll be a cool experiment.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 9, 2008 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

I hope that’s true, because it could really shake things up and lead to more team based successes around the league.

Since most NBA players don’t know who any of the big Euro coaches would be, it’d have to be a special situation for it to work since the coach would be starting from scratch without the ability to rely on his reputation to get the player’s respect. They’d really have to EARN it.

Many NCAA coaches fail when trying to be NBA coaches and can’t adapt to having to treat players like men and not boys, and I wonder how a Euro coach who is used to every player doing exactly what he says would adapt to having to convince his players to do what he says, and not just expect them to do it automatically.

The Raptors, with their mix of smart guys like Bosh, Euros like Calderon and Bargnani, and guys with Euro-ball experience like Anthony Parker, seem to be the best bet for it to get a fair shot at working in the beginning… and then other teams will catch on and a mini-revolution happens.

I really do hope it’s a cool success, because mixing the Euro high-skill team-ball with the athleticism and superstars of the NBA could be an unstoppable combination.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 10, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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