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Game 22 Recap: Blazers 98, Raptors 97

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Apologies about the long delay before the recap.  Sundays are a bad day for me to find Blazer-watching time and a 10:00 a.m. game couldn’t be worse.  Just one of the quirks of this particular blog.

 

In any case, this was another game where one shot going in changed everybody’s perception, eh?

 

General Observations

 

The Blazers started out the game ragged and tired, almost as if they were anticipating the end of the road trip one game early.  (Better not do that…yet AGAIN thanks to the obscene kindness of the schedule makers Portland lands home for one game and then heads RIGHT BACK OUT on the road.  That barely counts as a home game.  Anyway…)  Portland’s transition defense was lousy again, we got no offensive rebounds to speak of, we bricked our outside shots (whether open or forced), our interior defense was softer than Nicolas Batum’s downy cheek, and we committed enough turnovers to fill a medium-sized barge.   As predicted, Toronto also came out fired up.  They put us down 31-20 after the first quarter and it looked like another long, woeful journey lay ahead.

 

Then the Blazers woke up.

 

It started with an offensive spark from Rudy Fernandez.  He converted an and-one layup and started forcing the Raptors to concentrate on somebody else besides Brandon Roy.  This opened up the lane for Roy and soon both of them were going off with a little side action from Steve Blake adding seasoning.  The Raptors didn’t have the perimeter defense to cope and they couldn’t leave our big men alone to help.  The turnovers calmed down a little bit and the offensive rebounds picked up.  Portland was playing its game and won the quarter handily, 28-19.

 

The third quarter belonged to the Blazers as well behind a barrage of three-pointers and a heroic effort from Lamarcus Aldridge.  The transition defense was back up to snuff by now so Toronto had to work harder for their points.  Their big men were scoring but their buckets weren’t coming as frequently as when they were able to run out.  At this point it looked like Portland might run away with it.

 

The Raptors refused to surrender, though.  Everybody except, surprisingly, Chris Bosh got into the scoring act for them.  The Blazers also started missing some of those jumpers as tired legs began to rule.  It was nip and tuck until Portland found themselves down by 2 with 27 seconds remaining.  After a 20-second timeout the play went to Roy.  He drove but missed the tough layup.  Greg Oden grabbed another offensive rebound but couldn’t put the ball in either.  Rudy Fernandez then grabbed the rebound and, realizing there were still 13 seconds left on the clock, dribbled it back out to the left side to reset.  He got the ball to Steve Blake who took it hard up to the top of the three-point arc.  Either his move stymied the defender and he slipped or Blake pushed off a little, depending on who you ask.  It was probably a combination thereof.  All of a sudden Blake found himself with daylight and boldly fired.  Bam!  Three-pointer.  Portland leads by 1.  Chris Bosh tried to get up the last shot but Lamarcus shut him down with a wee bit of help and the Blazers tipped the ball out as the clock expired.  1 point win.  Heck of an effort late.

 

You can see where the Blazers struggled in this game pretty clearly.  They allowed the Raptors to shoot 49% from the floor and 47% from the three-point line.  They also allowed 26 assists on 38 made baskets.  They turned the ball over 14 times to the Raptors’ 8.  You can also see how Portland pulled it out.  As is typical of Raptor opponents they put up 5 more shots.  This made up for a defensive effort that Toronto can be proud of compared to some of their recent outings.  The Blazers shot 12-24 from three-point land.  They only allowed the Raptors 4 offensive rebounds and ended up winning the rebounding battle 48-31 on a night when the Raptors missed far fewer shots than did Portland.  That’s domination.

 

Individual Observations

 

Toronto was focusing most of its defensive pressure on Brandon Roy tonight and frankly Roy looked a little bit tired.  He’s still adjusting to this level of attention and I imagine after a grueling month and a half it’s starting to wear.  It’s not going to let up, though.  Roy still made them pay with 7 assists to 2 turnovers and managed 5 rebounds as well.  He scored 15.

 

Lamarcus Aldridge really dominated that third period.  He also did a credible job on Chris Bosh.  Bosh ended up scoring 19 but it was on 7-16 shooting and he never dominated the game.  (Only 5 boards for Bosh too!)   Lamarcus scored 20 himself on 50% shooting with 8 rebounds, 6 offensive.  He had 2 blocks as well.

 

Greg Oden continues to get stripped or fouled every time he gets the ball right at the cup.  He shot 6 free throws tonight, hitting 4.  He was only 3-10 from the field and finished with 10 points.  That said, there’s a big difference between the Greg Oden who’s drawing fouls on other players and the Greg Oden who is fouling them incessantly.  I like the former Greg much better.  Oden had 2 blocks, 2 turnovers, and 10 rebounds.  5 of those were offensive, including the one that kept the ball alive for that game-winning possession.  Also you just cannot discount how much attention Greg draws by his mere presence.  Watch sometime how many players have their eyes on him or have to drop down a step or two to shadow his movement in case they need to help.  Those extra steps free up our distance shooters.

 

Speaking of…Steve Blake, game hero.  7-14 shooting, 5-8 from distance, 19 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists.  Somebody didn’t want to lose this game.  It’s truly scary how much this team has come to depend on Blake.  When he is not hitting that three point shot we are not the same offensive unit.  That last three was the signature shot of his season, though.  The circumstances and set-up were a little different, but it’s not far off to say he played the last-second John Paxson role to the hilt.

 

Nic Batum had 3 rebounds and 2 assists but missed both of his shots in 14 minutes.  He did help keep Andrea Bagnani quiet though.  The Toronto 7-footer ended up with 5 points on 1-6 shooting.

 

Rudy Fernandez turned this game around when it threatened to spill over into Boston Redux territory.  One of the problems with Toronto’s defense is that once you get past their initial defender they don’t have an effective second layer between you and the rim.  Rudy did a great job of recognizing this and used his quick first step better than he has all season to create a couple opportunities deep.  Not only did this break the defense, it freed up all kinds of shooting opportunities.  Without Rudy breaking the ice we probably don’t win this game.  If he can fill that igniter role consistently this will become an extremely dangerous team.  16 points, 5-8 shooting, 3-4 deep, 3-3 from the line, and 8 rebounds.

 

Joel Przybilla only played 18 minutes tonight.  He hit a couple shots and grabbed 5 boards but he was having real trouble containing Jermaine O’Neal and the attention he had to pay to JO kept him too preoccupied to help his teammates.

 

Travis Outlaw played 22 minutes and hit 3-7, including 2-4 from distance, for 8 points with 2 rebounds and 2 assists.  He wasn’t as far out there with his offense as he has been the past couple games but he’s still random on far too many of his self-made shots for my taste.

 

Sergio Rodriguez played 15 minutes with 4 assists and hit a three.  He’s looking more confident on his shot.  He traded off 2 steals for 2 turnovers.

 

Martell Webster saw his first action of the season.  It was good to see him out there.  He missed his only shot, a quick-trigger three.

 

We don’t normally mention DNP-CDs but Channing got one tonight.  It’s been a rough week for him.

 

Final Thoughts

 

The Blazers finished an amazing 4-1 on this road trip.  Now the question for Blazer fans:  Will we remember the 80% of the games that they won or the 20% that they lost?  My take is that if you expect them to be World Champions or even Western Conference Finalists this year you might need to hold on to that Boston game.  Otherwise feel free to let it go and party like crazy because your team just kicked butt through yet another long Eastern swing.

 

Check the Jersey Contest scores and enter Tuesday’s game here.

 

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Oden

Oden got his 7th double doubles in 15 games. That is pretty good for a rookie.

by Balian on Dec 7, 2008 11:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

And really good for a rookie coming off of microfracture surgery!

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 11:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Dave made an astute

observation and you do too…. Oden is improving right before our eyes – I thought he looked very good yesterday, especially on that final play.

by hotstuffdb22 on Dec 8, 2008 5:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I love Nic Batum
Nic Batum had 3 rebounds and 2 assists but missed both of his shots in 14 minutes. He did help keep Andrea Bagnani quiet though.

Just last month he was busy keeping Tony Parker quiet. This dude can seriously guard 1-5. Love it.

Everything in moderation, including moderation

by prezofdeath on Dec 7, 2008 11:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

which

4s and 5s has been guarding. I have seen him get some weak side blocks on some bigs, but I dont think I have seen him guard a big man to man, but maybe I just havent seen it.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Dec 8, 2008 12:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Arguably

Bargnani is a 4 playing at the 3 position. Dude is 7 foot tall.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 1:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

true

but he is 7’ of weak sauce. I imagine Outlaw could guard him just fine as well. Anyone that can put a hand in that guys face can guard him for that matter.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Dec 8, 2008 8:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha-ha!

Nicolas Batum would get mauled if he guarded a power forward or center.

At any rate, though, Batum has decently defended opposing wings as a rookie.

by AK1984 on Dec 8, 2008 2:42 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

he’s alive!

people were getting worried!!!

Draft Kyle Singler.

by Ben. on Dec 7, 2008 11:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

like the Paxon reference...

I’ve often thought Blake and Paxon play a similar game.

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Dec 7, 2008 11:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

FYI

no blazers practice tomorrow.

there will be a shootaround tuesday morning.

looks like they earned a day off after the great road trip.

Draft Kyle Singler.

by Ben. on Dec 7, 2008 11:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

no kidding!

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Dec 7, 2008 11:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking forward to the Press Row reports.

Dave’s recap + Ben’s report = amazing.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 7, 2008 11:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, one day we'll have a home game.

I know, it’s hard to believe, but it has to happen sometime, right?

I can’t wait!

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 11:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You could have been having them all along, silly

Just click the heels of your ruby slippers together three times and say… well, you know the deal.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 7, 2008 11:56 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

rec

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Dec 8, 2008 6:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Travis please save us

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge

by maid tu rek on Dec 8, 2008 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We need to play more games against the East

We’re 7-1.

The east is currently winning the season series which hasn’t happened in a while.

15-7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Dec 7, 2008 11:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Does that mean we have accounted for all of the Easts losses so far?

That can’t be right

This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Dec 8, 2008 12:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

15-7 is the Blazer's record,

Not the record of the East vs West.

Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.

Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.

by Clevelander among roses on Dec 8, 2008 1:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

4-1 on an East road trip is awesome

I’ll take a blowout in Boston anytime if it comes attached with four road wins.

rolling hard

by Billy Ray Bates on Dec 7, 2008 11:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You misspelled L*kers

Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.

Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.

by Clevelander among roses on Dec 8, 2008 1:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Y'know, you're right about that.

He forgot to capitalize the “L” in Lakers.

Honestly, I detest this whole asterisk crap.

I consider it to be juvenile, sophomoric tipe.

Y’all probably disagree with my stance, though.

by AK1984 on Dec 8, 2008 2:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You misspelled "type"

And I consider your post to be tripe.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 4:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention trite.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Dec 8, 2008 6:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

tripe face boogie

boogie my scruples away. – Lowell George

Cat's foot, iron claw - LaMarcus Aldridge screams for more. At paranoia's poison door, alley oop slam throw it down big man. - Variations on a theme by Peter Sinfield.

by 22baylor on Dec 8, 2008 3:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I botched the word tripe; that's a good catch.

Oh well, it definitely won’t be my last spelling error.

by AK1984 on Dec 8, 2008 4:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't usually point out spelling

but since it was a “tipe-o” I couldn’t pass it up.

The L@kers thing is just a fun way of expressing dislike, as if they are so disgusting it isn’t even appropriate to say the word in polite company.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 11:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a BE convention.

It’s part of the culture. It’s beyond being sophomoric.

by PoliSam on Dec 8, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

its just something that people consider fun arround hear

its like slug bug, you dont have to play, but calling people out on it seams a little… well, non uf us take it TOO seriously, but ur welcome to play along if you like. were probably gonna keep inviting new posters to play along to, and it ok if you want to discorage it, but nobody means to offend your sensabilities over it all.

Travis please save us

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge

by maid tu rek on Dec 8, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't calling "Clevelander among roses" out on it, so I'm sorry if it came off that way.

I guess that, uh, I just don’t quite get the whole reasoning behind why several of y’all do it.

That’s just my opinion, though.

by AK1984 on Dec 8, 2008 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would.

I’d take 4 road wins against Western Conference teams at the cost of one loss to the Lakers at Staples.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 8, 2008 6:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Especially if two of them

were against teams that are likely among the top 6 seeds at the end of the year (Toronto and Detroit).

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 8:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

his finishing is downright terrible right now

and he’s still making an impact. If he can just get blocked/stripped about 50% less than he currently is, he’ll be a 15/10 machine.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 7, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he's going to have to earn his fouls

looks like. Night after night on the road, the refs just let Greg get walloped. And that O-foul on what should have been an and-one was just sad. I could tell that was clean when it happened.

He’s just going to lose those calls on the road and against the marquee big men of the league, until he starts taking over a few games like Roy, and the team does well as a playoff team. Then maybe NEXT year he’ll start getting those hack attacks in his favor.

by torridjoe on Dec 8, 2008 12:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't count on it

Shaq gets fouled on most plays, too, but the refs seem to swallow their whistles. Greg appears to be getting that treatment also.

Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.

Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.

by Clevelander among roses on Dec 8, 2008 1:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen the hacking

and I agree. They’re not going to call them when it happens. Frye said Greg was strong, he’ll need that.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 8, 2008 8:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LO recap

came out earlier this eve, if anyone is interested

LaMarcus and Oden really stepped forward with their offensive intensity down low today. I really think they tried to be bullies underneath to show the Celtics they were tough, but sort of forgot the point of being tough was making shots and then drawing defense for your perimeter guys. Today they intimidated with their play, not with their bravado. Greg favors dunking on Bosh’s head, is what he favors! And LMA schooled Bosh a couple times as well, plus kept him from going wild on offense and helped out with O’Neal (some). It was really the finding of the short-to-mid range turnaround for LaMarcus that made him so effective tonight. When that’s off, feh.

by torridjoe on Dec 7, 2008 11:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nice writing.

I enjoy your recaps.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 8, 2008 12:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

so far I’ve been able to do a recap of every game since I set my mind to it—may not keep the string over the holidays, but I’m hooked. They’re too fun to write about.

by torridjoe on Dec 8, 2008 12:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the Blake game winner

Live I thought he got away with a blatant push, but on the replay there actually isn’t too much of a shove. Calderon just kind of got off balance, and Blake helped the cause ever so slightly. Good no call.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 8, 2008 12:04 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Calderon's reaction wasn't that he was fouled.

It was fear that they would call him for a foul. If he wasn’t arguing, it prolly wasn’t a foul.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 8, 2008 12:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Jose made a little contact with Blake on the shot, but that was minimal as well. Good no call both ways. Jose is not shy about arguing his case to the refs, and there was no argument from him this time.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 8, 2008 12:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

without the pretty form and follow through hand in the cookie jar.

I still love you though Blakey.

The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.

by OneTrickPony on Dec 8, 2008 12:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

watch the replay

this was nowhere near as blatant as MJ’s shove on Russell.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 8, 2008 12:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm watching the whole game over again on the comcast late night replay

halftime right now.

Your probably right that Blake didn’t push off as hard. That was just the first thing that came to mind when the play unfolded this morning.

rolling hard

by Billy Ray Bates on Dec 8, 2008 12:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

me too now, thanks.

it's kind of hard to keep your composure when you're down 20 -Oden

by pxilpooshr on Dec 8, 2008 12:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Euro flop

Calderon was trying to sell the offensive foul so he could smoke a victory Marlboro.

by DonkeyShins on Dec 8, 2008 8:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This was a GREAT win under the circumstances

The Blazers were tired at the end of a long trip and the Raptors were inspired. That’s a difficult combo to overcome.

You certainly nailed most of the highlights, Dave. But I think you understated the role GO—in combination with LMA—played in this game. When the Blazers drafted GO, they envisioned he and LMA comprising a Robinson/ Duncan-esque twin towers combo that would dominate the paint at both ends and run the floor. Tonight I felt we saw the first real glimpse of that vision becoming reality. In particular, those two blocked or intimidated a LOT of shots tonight. They badly outplayed Toronto’s own imposing Twin Towers duo of O’Neal & Bosh. To me, that was as important—or more so—than Rudy and Blake’s heroics.

And the pivotal play of the game—in Barrett & Rice’s opinion as well as my own—was when GO shoved O’Neal under the hoop (without getting whistled), grabbed the offensive board, then dunked it in O’Neal’s face while delivering an “accidentally on purpose” elbow to Bosh’s head. In the aftermath of that play, O’Neal was holding his knee in pain and Bosh was headed to the locker room for stitches. And the momentum of the game had shifted in the Blazers’ favor.

I still feel the Blazers need a “Maxsap” off the bench. But if GO can stay out of foul trouble and play like he did versus the Raptors, a lot of the Blazers’ toughness deficit will be alleviated. He doesn’t have to slug anyone; all he has to do is play with abandon, and opposing players will get out of his way.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 8, 2008 12:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Are you still obsessing about "toughness"?

No offense, but you are starting to sound like my seventh grade football coach who was an ex-Marine and a strutting peacock. I am starting to have bad flashbacks.

It isn’t about who is the biggest macho jerk, it is about playing the best team basketball.

Sorry in advance if the tone of this post offends. It is not meant to be personal it is meant to be humorous/serious. You are catching my frustration with the steady drumbeat of testosterone poisoned, Jim Romesque posts since before Friday night’s game.

Peace, Out.

by upper left corner on Dec 8, 2008 3:55 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

There's something to be said for playing the best team basketball

However, there’s also something to be said for asserting your presence with authority (yes, I’m quoting Bull Durham here) on the court when being pushed around. Refs tend to reward the aggressive team foul-wise (odd, but true) and the Blazers are still trying to work through a reputation as being a soft team.

by DonkeyShins on Dec 8, 2008 8:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that Bull Durham quote

sorry to be nit picky, but I get irritated when people misquote things…..announce your presence with authority

by SalemORguy on Dec 8, 2008 9:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Crud

I can’t believe I messed that up. My favorite movie and I’m just as nitpicky about misquoting.

Feel free to call me ‘Meat’ (hangs head in shame).

by DonkeyShins on Dec 8, 2008 9:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not offended

I’m more amused. Maybe those bad experiences with that jerk of a football coach scarred you.

To amplify what I wrote in another comment in another thread, you clearly wish to perceive the NBA to be a pastoral hoops paradise where players execute artistic moves and drain lovely jumpshots—all accompanied by Chopin piano concertos. If any unseemly rough stuff rears its ugly head, the three omniscient officials quickly control it with their mighty whistles.

I’m not really making fun of you. As I said before, that sounds like a nice place—one that I’d enjoy visiting. Fact is, I’m not the least bit macho. I can’t stand Jim Rome et al. And I freely admit that, as a hoopster at tough SF gyms and schoolyards, I was occasionally one of the guys getting bullied—as the Blazers were in Boston the other night. As I was 5-9 and unable to fight my way out of a paper bag, I sometimes had no choice but to take it. It’s one thing to stand up to a bully who’s approximately your size—it’s another to commit suicide against a guy who can crush you like a bug.

So actually I HATE the bullying and intimidation side of basketball. If you take a moment to review my posts, you’ll see that I’ve NEVER wished that the Blazers would engage in that crap. But if they’re to become a championship contender, they can’t just turn the other cheek; they must demonstrate a willingness to respond in kind. The difference between us, apparently, is that I accept the fact that intimidation is as much a part of basketball as all the pretty stuff is. As I pointed out in other comments, even the “non-contact” sport of baseball has this aspect—most notably in the matchup between pitcher and batter. The physical aggression in basketball isn’t as naked as it is in football, but it’s there nonetheless—whether or not you wish to see it.

If my “toughness posts” seem obsessive to you, it’s just that I love this team and I perceive their inability to respond to bullying tactics to be something that could derail their championship aims. Just look at what happened to the Dallas Mavericks. They were also once viewed as a can’t-miss dynasty, but subsequently they got labeled as a soft, perimeter-shooting team, and they never were able to overcome that. A lot of BE folks obsess about their concerns that the Blazers can’t make it to the Promised Land without a better point guard, perimeter defender, etc. Based on my years of playing and watching hoops, my main concern has been the team’s toughness and physicality. Sorry if that offends you—or brings up bad memories from grade school.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 8, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On thinking about it...

…maybe we’re BOTH working out past issues here. In my case, I probably get a bit of vicarious pleasure when “my” team stands up to bullying—because the teams I played on were generally unable to do anything about it. Conversely, when I have to sit there and watch the Blazers getting taunted and pushed around, on some level I probably relive that unpleasant experience. In fact, it’s worse, because I don’t even have the OPTION of throwing an elbow back at the offender.

But I never enjoy seeing a team I root for dish out the cheap shots & trash talking. On the contrary, it’s a complete turn-off. During the heyday of the “Jailblazers,” I was disgusted with the antics of Gary Trent, Bonzi Wells, et al. So PLEASE don’t lump me in with your 7th grade football coach. I hate that guy! :-)

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 8, 2008 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

First my football story, and then my substantive post.

His name was Gene Newton, he was a barrel chested ex- Marine, a strutting screamer who seemed to get off on intimidating seventh and eighth graders. I was a seventh grader, all of 5’2" and 93 lbs.

I was actually a pretty good athlete, not great, but good enough to win a bunch of AAU track meets, good enough to be a regional finalist in Punt, Pass, and Kick, good enough that I went on to letter in three sports in high school. My dad was a minor league baseball pitcher and my big brothers were star athletes at a small school. I was fairly tall, skinny and fast, so they made me a wide receiver.

Anyway, one of Newton’s favorite drills was something he called the “Animal Drill.” Each kid was assigned a hitting partner and you would line up 3 yds. apart, as Newton walked done the middle you would charge your partner and not just hit but actually “sustain contact” until someone knocked the other guy down. The drill would then be repeated with the players 5 yds. apart and then again with the players starting 10 yds. apart. The kid who was assigned as my partner had about 15 lbs. on me and was an incredibly talented and tough kid who went on to become a first team All-State middle-linebacker for Jesuit High. Needless to say, I routinely came out on the loosing end of these drills. I didn’t mind the hits, I minded the embarrassment of not winning more often.

I wore nerdy, sports glasses and was assigned a funky old helmet that didn’t have an adequate face-guard. One day during Animal Drill, the other kid tried to head slap me, or punch me, or something. He ended up putting my sports glasses through the side of my nose. My nose simply exploded, I got up off the ground with blood just gushing like fountain from my face. It hurt; I cried. Newton stopped the drill, not to see if I was OK, but to scream at me for crying. “Shake it off and get back to work you pussy! Stop your crying, a little blood never hurt anyone.” Trying to choke back my tears, I replied “But Coach I’m hurt. I think its broken.” I ended up walking off the field and walking to a pay phone to call my Mom to come get me. My nose was badly broken and I had a concussion.

After two or three weeks of standing on the sidelines, I was ready to try again. My Dad arranged to take me to practice so that he could talk to Newton. He explained that because of my glasses, I needed a helmet with a better face guard so that I wouldn’t get popped again. Newton said, “he gets a new helmet when he learns how to use the one he’s got.” I can remember my Dad turning purple and just staring at this guy. “Are you telling me that you would endanger my son.” I don’t remember Newton’s exact reply, but the gist was that he was not backing down. My Dad told him he could take the old helmet and shove it up his *. We walked out, and that was the end of my football career.

It definitely remains fresh in my mind. Perhaps it has something to do with why macho posturing rubs me the wrong way.

Regarding the Blazers, I get your point. My point is that winning and maturation will naturally take care of most of the problem that you seem to be concerned about. The more the team wins the more respect they will be given by the refs, particularly if they don’t earn a reputation for whining (a la the Blazers circa 2000). Oden is an extremely powerful man. He is going to take a beating in the post because teams can’t stop him any other way. He is a competitive guy, as he gets more confident, he is going to learn how to push and elbow back. Pryz is a tough competitor, Brandon is a solid guy, Bayless is a solid guy, Martell is a solid guy. As this team matures, improves, and gains confidence, I think most of your concerns will resolve themselves.

I do think that a veteran PF/C, who has playoff experience and knows how to bang, would be a nice acquisition. It would fill a need, provide insurance against fouls and injury, and allow the Blazers to perhaps keep Trout as a scoring option for situations when a small quick 4 is preferred, but drop Frye and Diogu. In KP we trust.

by upper left corner on Dec 8, 2008 8:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Aw, come on

I don’t disagree with a single thing in this last post of yours. Where’s the fun in that?

As for your 7th grade football coach, what a colossal ass! I know there’s a lot of jerks in the football coaching ranks, but I’d say you drew a doozy. Kudos to your dad, though, for getting you out of that situation. That’s just plain abuse.

The story reminds me of an experience I had with my own dad—who unfortunately had more in common with your football coach than with your dad. I was about six, and we went horseback riding. My horse—which seemed as big as an elephant to me—promptly threw me to the ground. I cried and wanted to go home, of course, but my dad wasn’t having it. He demanded that I get back on that horse. Once again, the horse promptly threw me off. Again I cried, and this time my dad said something like, “OK, crybaby, I’ll get on the horse with you.” So we climbed on the horse together, and the horse immediately bucked us BOTH off—straight over the horse’s head and into a mud puddle.

Turned out the horse had been broken just a few days earlier. As for my dad, he had his tail WAY between his legs. Ah, that was worth getting thrown by a horse three times! In fact, it’s one of my fondest childhood memories.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 9, 2008 2:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A note about Frye's DNP

he seems completely engaged on the bench, not sulking. He was talking to Martell about the plays after MW’s short stint, in on the time outs, and celebrating every Blazer basket, especially the last. He seems to have a healthy ego, no matter how rough his play has been recently. I hope they keep him around.

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Dec 8, 2008 1:26 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Yeah - love me some Channing

He’s the definition of a ‘good sport’. I hope he works out of his playing / performance funk soon. He was looking pretty good in preseason workouts before his ankle surgery.

by DonkeyShins on Dec 8, 2008 8:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

About the last Blazer possesion..

yes Rudy secured the rebound that went to Blake, but looked like Brandon was to one who slapped it out. He missed the layup but did not give up on the play

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Dec 8, 2008 1:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Correct. I believe that it was also Roy...

…who tipped Bosh’s final miss out of there. (Barrett & Rice said it had been Trout, but Roy’s was the hand I noticed up there.)

No, wait a minute; that can’t be. Didn’t Ian Thompson just write that Roy lacks athletic ability?

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 8, 2008 1:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Everybody kept the ball alive on the final play

I watched it over and over on slow motion. Roy came up short on the finger-roll shot but it hit the rim. LMA tipped the ball up. Oden grabbed that and put up a shot that rolled off the rim. LMA tried to rebound at the rim with the intention of dunking the rebound but the ball was knocked off his hands. Roy then flicked the ball backward and Rudy ran it down like an outfielder catching a fly ball over his back. He passed to Blake and the rest was history. All 5 Blazers played a key part in getting the winning score, and Blake made a great decision to take the shot at the end.

"Maurice Lucas walked past, and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his playing career, because, "Back then, it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth.""

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 8, 2008 6:45 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

^^^ Not the "final play", rather the winning basket play.

"Maurice Lucas walked past, and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his playing career, because, "Back then, it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth.""

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 8, 2008 6:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Blazers Win!

Wow, great shot by Blake and last stop by LaMarcus! No idea why the game went so late out in Toronto, eh? But it sure was a…what? A replay?

by torridjoe on Dec 8, 2008 1:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

You didn't mention a main reason Bosh was not that hot today: He was bleeding for what felt like a third of the game

And had to go back to the locker room/bench at least twice after he caught Greg’s elbow on his forehead.

B-Rex bandwagon begins

by Norsktroll on Dec 8, 2008 1:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Don't look now but.....

Rip City is now the second best team in the ENTIRE WESTERN CONFERENCE!!!! I seriously doubt even the most optimistic fans would believe that they would be 15—7 at this point in the season. And to think that they are just gonna keep getting better is terrifying.
L*kers fans should enjoy this season, because I think that it will be the last time they can root for a number one seed for the next say, decade or so.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

by philly420pdxhilo on Dec 8, 2008 2:13 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Let's not get TOO ahead of ourselves

There’s still that aging, sleeping giant called the San Antonio Spurs. And the Hornets and Jazz aren’t chopped liver either. (I’m leaving out the Suns & Rockets because they seem just too old and/or injury prone to do much damage). By the beginning of the playoffs, the standings might look quite a bit different.

But agreed: all these teams are living on borrowed time. You know they’re looking over their shoulders at the upstarts from the Northwest. Only the Lakers seem deep enough to constitute a viable long-term threat to the Blazers, and I like the Blazers’ potential much more.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 8, 2008 2:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Spurs may not have that high a seed

They don’t care that much about that, anyway.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 4:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not getting ahead...

With all due respect, I was refering to the near future of Rip City, not just this season. No one will convince me that there is any team in the NBA with the potential and raw talent close to what the Blazers have. The Spurs are done, and the Hornets and Jazz, while good, are not even close to this team.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

by philly420pdxhilo on Dec 8, 2008 4:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No argument here

But I certainly think it’s too soon to count those teams out. The Spurs in particular are a very well-run franchise that has been contending for a long time now. As long as Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobli aren’t needing walkers to get around, I wouldn’t count them out.

But sure: barring the unforseen, the Blazers should surpass all those teams soon.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 8, 2008 7:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can we wait

until after we play at utah this week before this talk? it only seems appropriate

by bluthbanana on Dec 8, 2008 8:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Actually, the next THREE games figure to be tough—even the Clips game at home. The Blazers are road-weary, and they’re really not done with the road trip until that Clips game is behind them.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 8, 2008 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No

People have been talking this way for a while. It actually hasn’t seemed to hurt the team.

Of course it’s premature. This is a fan site. Stupid talk is part of what fans do for fun. You ought to try it and join us.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 11:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Blake is one heckuva point guard

He’s proving to be deadly from beyond the arch. If it wasn’t for Blake we would probably be 7-15. MVP! MVP!

by SteveBlakeFan on Dec 8, 2008 2:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Steve Blake is THE man

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 8, 2008 2:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I cussed more in the 1st quarter of this game, than I have for every other game this season

I had a feeling Toronto would finally start missing some shots and their intensity would fade. I think I was correct.

The Basketball Jones should be good tomorrow.

by tominhawaii on Dec 8, 2008 4:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

there wont be a basketball jones episode today.

by lakitao on Dec 8, 2008 7:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is lame

I know the skinny guy was going to the game.

by tominhawaii on Dec 9, 2008 2:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously

we aren’t ready right now. But you are right that we don’t know.

Very young and talented teams can mature very quickly (see 76-77 Blazers). Or, they may need a veteran or two brought in to add stability, etc.

We could be ready to contend by the end of the year. Much more likely, we will be contenders next year, but probably not win it for 2-3 years. But who knows?

I really, really liked what I saw from Greg last night. If he goes after it like that, things are going to fall in place for him quickly, and when they do, we will be up another level from where we are now. LA/Boston level? Who knows? But very, very good.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 5:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"Will we remember the 80% of the games that they won or the 20% that they lost?"

Right now I remember all of them equally. The Blazers only had one win to feel really good about, the Detroit game which they battled for.

The other three wins were all games where they fell way behind and just managed to survive. Of course, a good team wins close games, and wins are wins, but I’d like to see them win (or lose) by playing up to their potential, not falling behind and struggling back.

by Kaboomm on Dec 8, 2008 5:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

you have to give Toronto some credit. They have some very, very talented players, two all-stars in Calderon and O’Neal and a guy who has been mentioned in MVP discussions in Bosh.

They haven’t been playing well, but they came out and went after it in the first quarter yesterday. If they play like that every game, they will win a lot more than they lose.

I’d call that a very good win — we took their best punch, and rode it out and got the W against a good team. They haven’t been playing well, but they were a good team yesterday. There would have been nothing to be ashamed of in that loss if Steve hadn’t hit the shot.

Just about any road win is good. Last year, we only won 13 on the road. This year, after 15 games, we’ve already won 8. Life is good as a Blazer fan.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 5:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What’s the deal with all the no calls on Greg.

He’s just getting mugged down low. I know he needs to learn how to protect the ball better as he goes up and there have been a lot of clean swipes ripped from his hands. But I’ve also seen several plays this year that are close to the flagrant variety, and not a single whistle. Maybe I’m just Blazer biased, but it seems teams are hacking him (on purpose) with a vengeance.

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.

by Blazer1342 on Dec 8, 2008 5:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And why doesn’t Greg start taking those

wide open 10-12 footers at the foul line. That would definitely add a new element to the offense.

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.

by Blazer1342 on Dec 8, 2008 6:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect

Nate hasn’t given him the green light on those yet, and it will come. Maybe not till next year, though.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 6:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're probably right…

he just seems to have such a nice touch at the foul line
and nobody is coming out on him. In some cases it looks like he’d have time to take a nice relaxed shot.

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.

by Blazer1342 on Dec 8, 2008 6:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

and he worked on his shot a lot in the off year. It will be part of his arsenal next year, I’d guess.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 8:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He needs to work on his interior game

Once he can hit all those at a decent clip (heck, maybe aim for a FG% as good as Joel has?) then he can start working his way outward.

I have a sick idea – let’s get Sabonis to come back as a personal coach for Oden! Then he’ll eventually have a dagger of a 3-point shot as well. :-)

by DonkeyShins on Dec 8, 2008 8:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

NO, NO!!

The outside shot ruined Patrick Ewing, in my opinion. Sabas was a unique case—he was like a point-center. With Greg, I’d hate to take his rebounding and low-post threat away from the basket.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 8, 2008 12:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

But Walton could do damage with the free throw line jumper, and it opened the interior for cutters. I don’t think DS was seriously advocating the 3, but I do think it will be good to see Greg knocking down the 12-15 footers. Not the 18 footers, mind you.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 11:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I agree with that part

I’ve also noticed how they leave GO wide open with the ball at the foul line. In my opinion, he can ALREADY hit that shot, as long as it’s uncontested.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 9, 2008 2:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

He isn’t being defended when he’s in the high post. He’s a good free throw shooter. Logic dictates that he shoot it.

by Turnout on Dec 8, 2008 9:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

1. I do give Toronto credit. They are very good and should have a better record right now.

2. It’s an okay win. I especially didn’t feel good about GO’s game (unlike Dave). Earlier in the season he was doing two things well — owning the space around him and passing out of double teams. Now he seems to be panicking a little when he gets the ball and not getting the shot he wants. He is definitely getting swarmed, but he isn’t staying calm and executing either the shot or the pass. You could chalk this up to the learning process.

3. I don’t like asparagus that much, but I do remember where this came from, you handsome asparagus-eater you. Very funny.

by Kaboomm on Dec 8, 2008 5:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really liked his defensive intensity

and he crashed the boards well. I liked this game from him. You’re right, offensively not impressive. But he impacted a lot of shots. A lot.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 6:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

P.S. Actually, I hate asparagus

My sig is just my way of crediting Dave. I’d had it coming since August. I don’t know how long he’d been dreaming that one up, but I knew it was coming sometime.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 6:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't know if I can support your bid for world ruler now

I love asparagus…seared with a little butter and lemon…mmmmm…

by DonkeyShins on Dec 8, 2008 8:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Try capers and Kosher salt.

Or minced garlic and tomato paste.

Or course black pepper, olive oil and shredded parmesian cheese.

Or a mustard and balsalmic vinegrette.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 8, 2008 9:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If that's a risk you want to take

I can’t be held accountable for what happens.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can't help it...

I lived in Walla Walla for six years (college + work for 2 years — NOT prison) and it’s onion and asparagus central out there. You adapt or die.

by DonkeyShins on Dec 9, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What I don't get

Is the only positive some people see after a win, is the the last play or the big play that put the game away. Besides the big play, most people focus on what went wrong in the game.

When or if the Blazers have a losing streak, this place will be more terrifying than the house at 112 Ocean Avenue, Amityville, New York.

by tominhawaii on Dec 8, 2008 5:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

e.g. Boston

I was afraid to go outside after reading the threads.

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.

by Blazer1342 on Dec 8, 2008 5:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i think it's fully human nature to focus on the negatives...

it’s much easier… at the same time, when a player like Frye is just off for awhile, it’s really difficult to say anything positive, other than it’s great he’s cheering on the team.

by hotstuffdb22 on Dec 8, 2008 6:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it's a lot like the news

They just want murder/death/kill.

by tominhawaii on Dec 9, 2008 2:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was Greg's 15th full game and I thought his best overall.

1. He played 28 minutes and he was the most active yet on rebounding and defense. I though he had more elevation while rebounding today. He had 5 offensive boards and kept several others alive. He made good decisions playing off-the-ball defense and didn’t foul every guard that made a move to the basket. He moved his feet quickly and set up correctly to draw an offensive charge (learned something from Joel).
2. He got credit for only 2 blocks but that could have been 4-5 blocks with other scorekeepers. In any event, he stopped several other baskets that weren’t credited as blocks.
3. He wasn’t huffing and puffing nearly so much as he has previously despite playing 28 tough minutes. I remember KP saying it would be the middle of Dec before Greg got his conditioning back. That’s starting to look like a pretty good estimate. It will be interesting to see where he is when Phoenix comes to town on Dec 18, after he has had a few home games and some days off to rest at home.
4. He finally showed some speed getting back to successfully contest that breakaway layup. He didn’t get credit for a block (hard to tell if it was or not on the replay) but he clearly caused the miss.
5. He got deeper offensive position on a few plays, although not all. That is some progress.
6. He continues to take the hook shot (and made one tonight). Despite his relative lack of success so far with that shot he needs to keep taking them and to perfect that shot. It is important that he sets up in a deeper position (point 5 above) for that shot.
7. He had the energy to hang in for 2nd efforts tonight. The one-handed dunk (when he nailed Bosh in the forehead) after JO blocked his first attempt was a good example.
8. He continues to make about 2 of 3 at the foul line, but I think that will improve to above 70% as his conditioning improves. He seems to miss more as he tires.

On the negative side he still reaches out instead of up too much on defense, but I think he can fix that within another 20 games or so. A good example was the nice block he had that got negated by his foul for reaching over the player first. He footwork is still atrocious (re: the traveling call he got while backing down and sometimes while trying to execute his hook shot) and although I hope he improves I’m not expecting too much this year. He still needs to learn to pick and roll (he is awful at it and it should become a bread and butter play for this team). And most importantly right now, he needs to learn to take care of the ball and not get it stripped or blocked when dunking. I think he needs to keep the ball in closer to his chest with his elbows out (and use a gentle rotation of his body to keep the Bosh’s away) and learn to make an occasional fake to get his defender in the air or at least off balance before some of those dunk attempts. He also needs to learn to use his pivot foot under the basket.

I had hoped that GO would arrive with a lot more basketball skills, but it is what it is. He can still contribute immensly to this team this year, and in time develop into one of the best centers in the league. I still hope the Blazers will hire a personal “Big Man” coach to teach him (Robinson or Hakeem would be my fantasy coaches) but perhaps they want to wait until the off season when there is less pressure on him.

"Maurice Lucas walked past, and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his playing career, because, "Back then, it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth.""

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 8, 2008 8:12 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

Good point by point analysis

I agree on the general take. Really pleased with this game from Greg. By the end of the year, he’s going to be a major force.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 8, 2008 8:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really felt like this game was a turning point for Greg

He still made a ton of mistakes and his game is still far from perfect, but for the first time he didn’t seem to care so much about those mistakes. He just played hard. Playing hard through mistakes—making mistakes going full speed—is the first step of improvement.

by PoliSam on Dec 8, 2008 9:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Trout
Travis Outlaw played 22 minutes and hit 3-7, including 2-4 from distance, for 8 points with 2 rebounds and 2 assists. He wasn’t as far out there with his offense as he has been the past couple games but he’s still random on far too many of his self-made shots for my taste.

I was noticing on the bench during a timeout that Travis was really huffing & puffing – I’m wondering if some of his performance issues may be related to his asthma getting a bit more aggressive?

by DonkeyShins on Dec 8, 2008 8:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Blazers are 15-7 after...

…playing 15 out of 22 on the road. This is freaking fabulous. And to finish off a 5 game road trip 4-1……this really is special.

I do hope fans realize just how well this team is performing, even though they are not even close to reaching their potential. Yeah, the Celtics blew them out. Bog deal. That just provided Nate with teachable moments, and gave the team a bunch of film to study. It was a great reminder that even though they are doing well, they have a long way to go.

It was a reality check or sorts. This is a young team that still needs a lot of growth. It WILL come…..and I still think it’s coming sooner rather than later.

In Roy I trust.

by antediluvian on Dec 8, 2008 9:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Game 22 Recap: Blazers 98, Raptors 97

Do you believe the Refs helped us win the game? There were at least 3 fouls on BRoy on his last drive, If the refs would have called one of them and BRoy shot free throws. At most we would have tied the game. Remember BRoy isn’t as great on three throws as he is going to the rim. As it turned out we got the rebound and three pt shot made by our number 1 pt guard

hgvlm

Harold

by hgvlm on Dec 8, 2008 9:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Come again?

Brandon is hitting 84% from the foul line and about 50% from his close in shots. I’m not sure how you calculate your averages, but two 84% shots have a 71% chance of going in which is significantly higher than 50%. Roy could have been fouled, but the refs almost never call a foul in a last minute situation like that (which is how it should be IMO).

I don’t think refs helped or hindered us in this win, we just had some good hustle on the offensive glass, got a good open look at a three and played good D on Toronto’s last possession.

by nikolokolus on Dec 8, 2008 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Martell Webster

Any reports on how Martell felt after the game? Mike said he had his shoe off and was pointing at his foot to JJ after he came out.

by Jblaze on Dec 8, 2008 9:15 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

dnp-cd

I have been a trailblazer fan since Clyde. I walked away when it was the “Jail-Blazers”. KP got rid of the bad apples, got a new direction and character people who could play a.la. Channing Frye. He took Portland on as a resident and has performed as well as could be expected having to play behind LA and others. He never went to the papers or cursed anyone out about his PT. He has worked like a dog for our fair city. Now, as all NBA players do, he has almost no PT and is being dissed and heckled by fickle fans. Its not fair and I would feel sorry for our team if he just left and played against us with revenge in his heart. But that’s NOT LIKE HIM TO DO SO. NM and KP need to man-up and play the guy or tell him why or let him go. Frye in my opinion IS a trailblazer and always will be whether he is here or not. We love him and what he stands for. Good luck, Channing. Man-up NM and KP.

by miltonstowe on Dec 8, 2008 10:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with your sentiment, but....

not sure about how Nate or KP needs to “man up”. I really like Channing and agree that his attitude and love or our city had endeared him to many of us, but the rotations are far from settled at this point so we’ll have to wait to see how everything shakes out before we know where we are. I’m sure that when the time comes to make a decision as to whether or not to keep Channing and how much time he will have with this team that Nate and KP will do the right thing – they’ve given us no reason to think otherwise. Your message made it seem like there was something that KP or Nate needed to do and I’m just not sure we’re there yet.

I think eventually Channing will be wearing another uniform. He’s probably too talented to play such a limited role for us, but if he does eventually move on I’ll always have very fond memories of his time in a Blazer uniforms. By watching Channing root for our guys on the bench during the Toronto game you wouldn’t know that he had played at all. He’s a good guy much like Jarrett Jack and James Jones both of whom will always be warmly welcomed when they come to the Rose Garden. They were/are all part of "The New Blazers".

by ThereGoDaGame on Dec 8, 2008 5:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Here, here.

Channing has said that even if he gets traded, he intends to make Portland his home after he retires. Maybe the Buffet of Goodness will run for mayor someday!

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 8, 2008 7:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you saying that ....

Channing should be getting more PT than Trout, Fernandez, or a healthy Fernandez? Sure he’s a great guy, but he’s a great guy who does not rebound, play defense, or score as well as any of the guys that are ahead of him. Is that unfair? NO. McMillan and KP are paid to put the best team on the court, and they have done that. The fact is, with a healthy Martell, Frye is the 11th most talented player in a 10 man rotation. If he wants more pt, it is HIS responsibility to man up, play better “d”, and prove he is worth the minutes…

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

by philly420pdxhilo on Dec 8, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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