Postgame Geek Out Thread
by Ben Golliver on Dec 7, 2008 12:50 PM PST
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As we anxiously await Dave's game recap, I thought I'd throw an open thread up for everyone that's basking in the glow of that last-second victory. That felt great. Not as sweet as Houston but pretty dang sweet. You hate to lose a 10 point lead like that but gutting it out with hustle and cojones makes up for the up-and-down play this afternoon.
A couple of thoughts...
- Martell is apparently on the "very slow" rehab curve. Probably best that way.
- It seems like Brandon shoots that foul line jumper at like a 97 percent clip.
- 4-1 road trip. Splendid.
A couple of questions...
- If Blake misses that shot, how do you respond?
- Did you miss Channing Frye... at all?
- Was that Greg's best game yet?
- Was that Rudy's best game yet?
Start geeking out now. Dave will be through shortly with the recap.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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We need a new PG
Blake can’t create his own shot.
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Everything in moderation, including moderation
by prezofdeath on Dec 7, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 10 recs
Haha!
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on Dec 7, 2008 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ann!
You need to show up more often…..the Bedge is suffering from a serious lack of AnntheFanness
Everything in moderation, including moderation
Act like a real fan ya chump.
What more can the man do? 7/14 from the field, 5/8 from 3, 1 TO in 33 minutes. He made huge shots when the team really needed them and hit the go-ahead basket in a squeaker.
He’s not the most talented guard in the NBA, but he’s pretty solid on most things and is getting much better at getting in the lane off the dribble. It’s not his job to create his own shot; he’s supposed to run the offense and spot up and he’s doing a damn good job.
Fans should respect a guy who earns a job as a starter through hard work despite having suspect talent.
He hit the game-winning shot for cryin out loud. Give him a break. Can he get at least a 24-hour moratorium and smack talking and douchebaggy trade proposals?
by Benjamanic on Dec 7, 2008 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You would be
about 1% wrong, then. If you just had the courage of your convictions, you would have been 100% right, instead of only 99%. Have courage, man.
Benjamanic, I get as tired of the Blake bashing as you do. It seemed the perfect opportunity — he went one-on-one, nailed the game winning shot, and I happened to be there for the first comment. If there was ever a game for the first comment to be used to point out that the Blake criticisms go over the top sometime, this was that game.
I know his limitations, but the guy is the ultimate example of a role player who does what has to be done to win. I’m a big Blake fan. We may not win a championship with him at the point, but we just might, too, if our guys come along far enough.
No big deal about not catching the sarcasm. We all do it sometimes.
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Whooooo-hoooooooo!!!!!
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Boxscore
NBA.com Boxscore with Dave’s favorite stat … the plus/minus
"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan
Yeah yeah yeah yeah!!!!
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Nice.
The first quarter weighed in around ten kurucs.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
If Blake had missed that shot I would have been furious at first, but then I would probably reason that he had the hot hand all game and Roy although clutch had been shoting badly compared to normal.
No Channing Frye meant I didn’t have to shout at the computer.
I haven’t seen enough of Greg to comment but he was certainly doing some damge and damage pevention there.
I loved Rudy’s hustle :)
!!!
Exclamations of jubilation!!!
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tonight was no blowout, however.
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They just got home
And they came out hard from the get-go. That’s a good team going through adjustments. Very dangerous.
They aren’t a great team or an elite team, but to say they are bad is just not accurate. They’ll be a winning team on the year.
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Did you hear the part that they've played the toughest schedule to date?
As measured by opponents winning percentage.
And a Y5k says, a one point loss was no blowout.
hakkaa päälle !
They won't be a 'bad team' for that much longer
They have a legitamate ‘Big 3’ in Bosh, Calderon, and O’neal. They just need some more time to perfect the new play style implemented by the new head coach.
Needless to say, great win by Portland against another team on the rise.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
agreed. Their defense was way tighter tonight than I expected. Had Blake not played I think this game would have been a loss, as they did a great job of suffocating Brandon.
by dario argento on Dec 7, 2008 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
i agree
no way we would have won that game playing four on five
JAH
Screw working on Sundays...
I taped the game, so I guess I’ll have to relive all the glory when I get home…
Can I get some early observations?
How did Webster look? What was so great about Oden’s play? Did Rudy out-play Calderon?
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Dec 7, 2008 12:54 PM PST reply actions
And...
What’s the deal with Channing Frye and/or Travis Outlaw?
The past two games they looked like they’ve regressed to rookies…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Dec 7, 2008 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
webster barely played. he missed an open 3… not much to see there.
oden worked very hard. altered tons of shots on defense… hit some free throws… got great positioning down low on both ends… played down the stretch… looked very good all around…
rudy just had more energy than i’ve seen from him and that’s saying something… took the ball to the rim and hit some open shots… all around nice effort…
frye didn’t play… get used to hearing that…
Draft Kyle Singler.
by Ben Golliver on Dec 7, 2008 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Yeh I just bought Frye's new album
It’s called the DNP-CD
It’s pretty good if you ask me
Everything in moderation, including moderation
by prezofdeath on Dec 7, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 16 recs
Hey doesn't Trout have one of those coming soon?
I heard that it’s being produced by a lethal tag-team of Martell Webster and Nic Batum.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
true, except for the fact that Outlaw has trade value,
and once he reaches his new home in February, he will get playing time.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for truth
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
rec'd for sad but true
Cat's foot, iron claw - LaMarcus Aldridge screams for more. At paranoia's poison door, alley oop slam throw it down big man. - Variations on a theme by Peter Sinfield.
/agreed
C Frye put a couple of nails in his coffin while he was in Boston. Tough, because I love his attitude and how he stepped it up when Joel when down last year (remember?). 10 years from now, I want Channing back in Portland and working for the Organization in some sort of capacity.
<- Frye honk and i admit it.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
Rec'd for great wit.
Jeff's guide to not looking stupid:
+/- is an absolutely terrible stat, so don't use it, and don't give up on young players before they turn 24.
54!
Rudy probably wanted to show Calderon a thing or two
Also, Rudy can’t have been happy about Boston.
Greg, the kid is going to be, like, good.
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one more thing to add to rudy praise
rudy just had more energy than i’ve seen from him and that’s saying something… took the ball to the rim and hit some open shots… all around nice effort…
you mention taking it to the rim and open shots, but don’t forget his rebounding. He had some key boards in the final minutes. That ball was getting batted around, volley-ball style, and Rudy tracked a couple of those down to set up extra possessions for us.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
Webster looked
like a guy coming back of an injury.
No biggie.
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Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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Both as a description of webster and a correction to my typo
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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Steve "lights out" Blake FTW
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Channing's DNP was predictable
if a little sudden.
PS, the record stat box on the left of the main page needs to be updated.
I'm nut's inside right now! that was a GUTS win.
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Like the record but...
The really good teams we have beat are Orlando, Detroit, New Orleans, SAS, Houston. The really good teams we have lost to are LAL, New Orleans, Phoenix (2), Boston. A 5-5 record against the better teams. Like our play a lot, but we are even against the GOOD teams.
by Holybackboards on Dec 7, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Forgot
A loss to Utah. 5-6 record against better teams.
by Holybackboards on Dec 7, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
But only 3
of those 11 games were at home.
Now, we get to learn how we are going to do against the good teams at home, with several really tough home games coming up.
Do you like asparagus?
by jscot on Dec 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The more the better
Also, I really can’t help but think the more team plays together, the better it will get. All of us have to remember – We are starting two rookies – who will only get better and better. We saw what a look of where Oden will go in the future. Taking command in the paint.
by Holybackboards on Dec 7, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Correct
Last year, in Toronto, Bosh could drive at will against us. This year, he could drive and get intimidated or get his shot blocked. We still can’t stop him pulling up for a jumper, but I’ll take that anytime.
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Especially because
Not to take anything away from Joel, but we haven’t seen the ability to take away the paint from opposing teams defensively since…maybe Theo Ratliffe’s first year here.
by Holybackboards on Dec 7, 2008 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Afraid
I am a little uncomfortable with the way SAS is starting to play. They got their legs under them and are starting to roll. Also, Dallas? they have been playing pretty well lately. Who knows, I think the West started slow, and will get a bit tougher in the coming weeks.
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life,(of the Blazers), (of KP's madness), of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity." - Albert Einstein
by BlazerandBeaverBELIEVER on Dec 7, 2008 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Answers:
If Blake misses that shot, how do you respond?
There was a lot of time on the clock, so that depends on whether or not we grab the offensive board.
After all, doing that was what got us that shot in the first place; we board that miss and get the putback,
then that missed shot was not different than the ones down low that preceeded it.
Did you miss Channing Frye… at all?
I miss his blog.
Was that Greg’s best game yet?
No, but it was his best endurance game, for neither tiring out nor battling foul trouble.
Dude gave us MINUTES, and didn’t get gassed, on a night when we were very, very tired.
Was that Rudy’s best game yet?
Naw. I know there was a Rose Garden game when he pulled us through.
I forget which one, but I know he’s killed it like this or better already.
"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway
More details:
This win was the difference between:
- Second place in the conference vs fourth
- A winning road record (8-7) vs. a losing one (7-8)
And we’re three games away from the end of the murderous start.
"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway
it was like that last year all the way up through the all star break
then we started seeing the wheat get separated from the chaff.
Last year we were the chaff. This year we are the WHEAT.
WHOLE GRAIN—UU RAH!
Everything in moderation, including moderation
by prezofdeath on Dec 7, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
10 grain baby. 10 grain
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Dec 7, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Not true though--
We had our 13 game win streak, during our easiest stretch of the schedule, and it was only AFTER that, that we were 18-12. AFTER the 13 game win streak! Which was with our easiest part of the schedule.
We’re better than that, even before our easiest part of the schedule, against decent teams, mostly on the road.
I think me and you are saying the same thing.
Last year we rocked the easy schedule and choked after the all star break when things got tough.
this year we’re rocking the hard part of the schedule while other teams are rocking their easy part of the schedule. I’m saying we should stay ahead of everyone once our schedule lightens and other teams’ schedules tighten.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
The team didn't choke last year
They were plum wore out—physically and emotionally—after fighting so hard in so many close (including overtime) games. Remember, the guys NEVER had a comfortable win last season; they all looked like tonight’s game.
This season, the team isn’t having to kill themselves to get wins. Especially, Roy doesn’t have to pull off miracles at the end of every game and Joel doesn’t have to battle the opposing team’s entire front line. Plus the Blazers are considerably deeper. That and the easier schedule on the horizon should pay dividends.
But don’t call last season’s team chokers. They overachieved big-time.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Yeah, that 8-team scrum (2nd through 9th) is just insane.
Best anyone can do is:
a) Be in that scrum instead of below it, and
b) Be at the top of it.
Done, and done.
"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway
That's the elephant in the closet
None of the top nine are disappearing, this year. Dallas looks great. Phoenix isn’t going anywhere. A very solid team will be kept out of the playoffs. Could take close to 50 to get in – AGAIN.
On the upside, the Blazers have played more road games than any of those other teams. Couldn’t possibly expect to be in a better spot right now.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
thankfully we have 17 games left against the bottom 6 teams in the conference. that will go a long way to help us get to 50. we will need almost all of those if everyone keeps beating up on them.
Draft Kyle Singler.
Win all the home ones
Take 3/4 of the road ones.
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dare I say
don’t forget the Spurs. I still feel the fear.
it's kind of hard to keep your composure when you're down 20 -Oden
They are like vampires
They’ll never die.
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Mixed metaphor alert
Elephant in the room.
Skeleton in the closet.
MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)
by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 7, 2008 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You have to admit
An elephant in the closet would be pretty awkward.
As would a skeleton in the room.
More importantly
It sets an important tone, post Boston loss. We might suffer some hangover still, but this win is a good sign that we’re past it.
by zaruga on Dec 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
not to mention when greg ran the floor
to prevent an easy bucket after a steal. that was some great stamina from greg, and a truly inspiring performance on the defensive end, taking offensive fouls, grabbing boards, getting plenty of deflection/blocks, making everyone shudder in fear once they entered the three point arc. Greg, this ones for you!
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by BlazerandBeaverBELIEVER on Dec 7, 2008 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
close out
end-of-the-game games like that is what it’s all about.
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As Blake shoots that shot I am screaming, “what are you thinking call time out.” After he makes it I am screaming that guy has bowling balls where it counts, great shot.
Channing is a nice guy but I did not miss him, he has been playing poor.
Yest that was Oden’s best game. He affected shots, got rebounds, even through a couple of bad calls. Most importantly we won.
As always great hustle from Rudy but he’s had even better games than that.
This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Dec 7, 2008 1:00 PM PST reply actions
I was thinking the same thing.
As Blake shoots that shot I am screaming, "what are you thinking call time out." After he makes it I am screaming that guy has bowling balls where it counts, great shot.
Freaking out why he wouldn’t call a timeout, then I realized…wait, he’s been hot all night AND it’s Blake. Basketballs of steel.
Channing...
…had a very poor performance against Boston but besides that he has been playing well. Much better than last season. He is in an unfortunate position now that Oden is back, Martell is coming back and Batum is firmly in the rotation. His playing time will be diminished from here on out.
Foul line 97%
If only Brandon shot all his free throws at 97 percent.
it's kind of hard to keep your composure when you're down 20 -Oden
I was just about to say..
is it legal for Brandon to ask for a defender while he shoots his free throws?
Everything in moderation, including moderation
maybe he can just imagine them and take jumpers at the line...
it's kind of hard to keep your composure when you're down 20 -Oden
Can you jump while shooting a foul shot?
I doubt that you can.
you could jump and shoot it granny if you want, but no one will ever speak your name aloud ever again.
it's kind of hard to keep your composure when you're down 20 -Oden
You can do whatever you want
as long as you don’t cross the line before the ball hits the rim
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
I used to jump shoot foul shots in a rec league, starting 2 feet back of the line
You get laughed at, but the shot is legal as long as you don’t cross the line
Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.
Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.
by Clevelander among roses on Dec 7, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No, I'm 6'3", but I was a better jump shooter, since that's how I practiced.
Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.
Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.
by Clevelander among roses on Dec 7, 2008 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you and Van Exel
play to your strengths, I guess.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
A rec league? I want to play!
I’m like the king of rec’ing….
See? I can play!
Everything in moderation, including moderation
hal greer of the 76ers in the 1960s
when they had wilt chamberlin and billy cunningham, used to shoot jumpshot fts at a high %. he was a good 6’3" sg.
ignacio
alot of us like to pretend that the first game of the season never happened:(
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
If Blake misses that shot...
It’s a terrible shot, right? Hate to say it. Love that it went down. Created it himself with a great move. Dare I say it? Shades of Jordan in game 6 against Utah, stopping short and draining the J over Byron Russel (was that his name?).
But there were ten seconds left and a three off the dribble is probably not the best look you can get. Wonder how many threes off the dribble Blake’s made (or even taken) all year? I would be ALL were with 5 or less seconds on the shot clock. Here, there was more time.
Sometimes, though, you just feel it. HUGE shot. Can’t argue with results.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Dec 7, 2008 1:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I agree 50%
They were running out of time and just about the rest of the team was under the basket. I think it was one of those plays where you don’t so much count on getting the basket or an assist and instead you are expecting one of the bigs to get a rebound and a put back.
Many answers
I’m upset if Steve Blake doesn’t take that shot. He was feeling it tonight, and he had a good look.
Greg and Rudy have both played better, but Greg in particular had a very, very good game. His board work was fantastic. He is, obviously the difference between being ahead on the glass this season, versus last season.
Not a good game for the Blazers though. Glad we won, of course, but defensive intensity was still far from where it needs to be.
I agree about Blake
all too often than the Blazer’s don’t take an open shot trying to get a better shot but end up forcing a shot. Fortuneately Blake shot an open three and nailed it which was a good decision even if he missed. It was a good decision because it gave the Blazers time enough to grab one last board and shoot again if necessary. As it was we gave Toronto another 8.7 seconds of solid defense and got a W.
Re: Oden, when is this guy going to start getting more foul calls. Time and time again he gets mugged down low with no call. The offensive foul against O’neal was terrible as was an ealier foul by Joel against O’neal for a three point play. The latter was terrible in that O’neal shoved Joel in the back to get the Board then joel fouls the shot atttempt (which should never have occured).
I remember some discussion on Truehoop about ref integrity and play review. If the NBA are keeping stats about he number of play calls missed and made correctly, they should be made publicly available. But alas Stern has never been one for transparency.
Why Blake's shot was the right move...
1. The defense was not set… calling timeout would probably give the defense an advantage;
2. With nine seconds left and trailing by two, you have to jack up a shot if you are open;
3. If he missed, they had a better chance at an O-Reb and more time to convert it;
4. If he missed and Toronto got the rebound, there was more time left to foul and get possession again;
5. Hindsight – he made the shot.
MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)
by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 7, 2008 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I swear Toronto didn't miss a shot until about 8 minutes to go in the second quarter
That was a crazy game. They were scrambling and hustling like the Blazers in the first quarter in Boston. Then Portland did it’s thing and took control of the game. Then they lost control and stuff. It was a fun game to watch.
Yeah
Wow Calderon is impressive. Is he still shooting 100 from the line?
it's kind of hard to keep your composure when you're down 20 -Oden
fair to say that mike barrett is the president of the steve blake fan club? who loves blake more: his wife or MB?
Draft Kyle Singler.
Channing
Didn’t even think of him till I read this post. And I am a Frye supporter. But I did have to watch this game on justintv. I HATE COMCAST!!!!!
Odens best performance to date! It’ll just get better.
I'm actually not that upset with Blake if he misses that shot
We’re on the road, desperate for a win, and Brandon just had his hat blocked by one mister Jermaine O’Neal. We don’t want to go to OT, he’s got a girly-man guarding him, and he’s a 40+% three point shooter on the year.
Let the man take a heave. And he took it with time for a rebound if we missed. We were killing them like 20-6 on the offensive boards, so if he misses, there’s a good chance Greg or LMA gets it and tips it in for a tie.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
Some Team Facts
15 road games – highest in league
7 home games – lowest in league
22 games total – highest in league
15-7 and leading division …couldn’t wish for a better start with a tough schedule!
by Balian on Dec 7, 2008 1:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
defense was really bad today
mental lapses gave Kapono, Calderon, Parker too many open looks. Credit to Bosh and JO for a nice game however.
Still a great win though— fantastic job on the offensive glass.
Boomshakalaka
I had a dream last night that my Grandmother read the Bedge
and you were her least favorite poster. I defended you to the utmost.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
You dream about Bedge?
That is, like, sick, and not in the good way.
Do you like asparagus?
Correction
I dreamed about my grandmother reading the Bedge….there’s a difference
Everything in moderation, including moderation
you’re digging yourself deeper………..
Draft Kyle Singler.
by Ben Golliver on Dec 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
All talk and no action
Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.
Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.
by Clevelander among roses on Dec 7, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Paging the psychology department...
Counseling, stat.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
Rudy's had better games
But not better quarters than the second. He absolutely willed the Blazers back into the game. Not sure they could’ve gotten back into it without him. He hit every shot he took and his energy was just as important as his points. Until then, the whole team was sleepwalking.
I’d say the 24 or whatever he dropped on Orlando (or was it Miami?), including the spinning dagger near the end, was his best game overall.
I may be combining those two games (were the 24 point game and the spinning dagger game the same game?).
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Dec 7, 2008 1:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Dont you guys think that
we should go greet the team at the airport when they come back from a good road trip?
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
by RipCity on Dec 7, 2008 1:15 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
If I were in portland I'd do it,
But it is a long drive from Loma Linda, CA.
I still think “we” should.
you want to make a fan post about this subject?
So maybe we could organize something like that?
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
I would like to but
Seeing as I don’t know when exactly they get back and I am 1000 miles away with virtually no chance of being there it makes sense that someone else should organize this.
Does anyone know where and when they are getting back home? Who we would need to ask to get a spot to at least hold signs and yell congrats?
where is that?
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
its usu a special area of the airport that they'll come into...
i could ry to co-ordinate it with Shav…
Spoke to Shav and he has no idea how to co-ordinate this
but I told him everyones so excited…so the team knows how supported they are :-)
Rudy/Frye
8 rebounds and 16 points out of the skinny kid from Spain looks pretty good in my book. Remember how some worried about whether or not he could “take a beating?”As far as Frye, it Outlaw wants to play PF, he’d better get us more than 2 boards in almost 22 minutes. Frye will get 8 pts and 2 boards in 22 minutes as well. I’m still not sold on Outlaw sometimes. He had the matchup to play better.
Wrong...
I love both of them and I think Trout should continue to be a Blazer…But unfortunately it would appear that Frye is completely expendable. I find that as much as I think Frye is a great guy, he just doesn’t seem to be able to contribute here any more. Sad.
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Either way, Calder's point is solid:
Who is our backup power forward?
Seems like the response is, “Neither Frye nor Trout is deserving.”
But SOMEONE’S gots ta do it.
Not a fan of LMA going 38 minutes a night every night,
nor of just suffering at the position when he’s getting a breather.
"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway
You make Frye and Rodriguez go away and pick up a backup 4 in the deal. QED.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Two backups for one backup?
Talk about the losing end of a quid pro quo.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
Gotta name names.
This pickup must be a superior PF to Frye AND Trout.
Who dat?
I mean, it’s a sound idea – but it needs a name.
"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway
And I might add:
How’s Freeland?
I can suffer through Frye and Trout this season if next year’s Batum is on the way at the 4.
There’s also the case to be made for not offering Frye (or Ike) the QO if we’re down on him,
thereby totally eliminating all of our cap-hold issues going into the off-season,
and giving us full flexibility (and our maximum cap space possible) from day 1 of free agency.
"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway
I don't think Freeland is big enough or enough of a bruiser
and he probably ain’t a Nowitzki-type super athletic big man with range, so I don’t expect him to be the Answer at backup PF. Freeland his wicked skills and he’s pretty quick on his feet, but it’s be a big leap to say he is an upgrade over Trout or Channing.
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
I kinda like the idea of Freeland as backup PF...
recent reports say that he has serious game.
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Right now
Channing would NOT be offered the QO. If he can show he belongs as a role player, he’ll be offered a Trout-like contract — $4 million a year for 2 years, plus a 3rd year team option. But he has to come up with some better games to even see that.
Ike won’t be offered the QO, either. Ike is not even activated for the game that Channing doesn’t play. That tells you where he comes in the pecking order.
Channing and Travis both bring different things at the 4 when they are playing well. I can see games where you could want one and not the other.
I won’t be surprised to see Freeland on the roster next year, as a backup 4/5. I also won’t be surprised if he’s 3rd string at both those positions.
If Channing doesn’t find a way to up his game, or Travis doesn’t miraculously morph into a guy who rebounds and defends like a PF, look for KP to try to find a backup PF either by trade or draft (Psycho T, anyone?). Right now, this looks to me like potentially our biggest weakness next year, perhaps even a bigger weakness than PG (because I’m expecting big progress out of Bayless sometime soon).
This only happens this season if a good deal falls in KP’s lap. He’s on record as not liking mid-season trades. And he’s not going to move major assets just to get a backup PF — that kind of guy is easy to get in the draft.
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The only way Channing sticks around as a PF is if he has personality transplant surgery...
…………………………….. Playing in the paint in the NBA is like dancing in the pit at an 1980s punkrock show — barely controlled mayhem. Channing isn’t the sort of guy that even stands at the EDGE of the pit, he’d be outside hitting on chicks.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Bandon Bass.
Gotta name names.
This pickup must be a superior PF to Frye AND Trout.
Who dat?
Getting minimal minutes in Dallas BEFORE Howard comes back…
1 year left on Rookie contract, $800K-ish. Math works for a straight swap with Sergio’ contract.
Not sure how you package Frye to make that deal extra appealing to Cuban but that’s why they pay Penn the big bucks; maybe you take one of his retired players in the trade, he seems to have a few of those around, ha ha.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Outlaw v. Frye
Outlaw has become a very solid three point shooter. If he could learn to limit himself to taking open threes and attacking the rim, he’d be a really valuable bench scorer.
But he’s just not a PF. Batum’s a better rebounder. Blake might be a better rebounder. Trout just doesn’t have the mentality.
Frye gets a lot of criticism because he’s 6’11" and people actually think of him (as opposed to Outlaw) as a PF. So there’s more frustration when he only shoots outside 20 feet.
But I’m not sure the difference in how well these guys have played is as wide as people think. Frye was ROUGH against Boston and kicked off the big run. True. But game to game, his play hasn’t been all that worse than Outlaw.
Just as Outlaw needs to limit himself to threes and attacking the rim, Channing needs to shoots threes (but only from the corner) and OPEN spot ups from seventeen and in.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
In addendum
Channing should avoid the hesitation on the catch and shoot.
it's kind of hard to keep your composure when you're down 20 -Oden
I agree with this
When Channing takes the corner threes and open 17 footers, he hits them at a decent rate. When he hesitates, he is just cover your eyes awful.
Boomshakalaka
He needs the same pep talk that LMA got a couple of games ago.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Channing is no Rudy
he doesn’t just step into a game and start knocking down shots at a decent clip like Rudy has done. However, it was evident that given some steady minutes Frye can produce. The problem is that as a team he won’t get those minutes unless there is an injury to a big. That is a tough role to have when you’re young. I’d be happy with Frye as long as he is comfortable in that role.
I just hope Outlaw can keeping hitting the 3
so his trade value stays with him for a couple months.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
If that shot doesn't go in,
I could see Nate saying, “We gotta take a time out in that situation” or something. And he would have mentioned the problems we had with losing the lead and not executing down the stretch.
I did not miss Channing Frye at all.
Greg Oden was almost dominant, and got a couple of really stupid foul calls go against him. Jermaine O’Neal hit him constantly with veteran tricks and by the end of the game the refs were in his pocket, and that’s the only way you can explain that lame offensive foul call that should have been an and one.
Rudy had a great game but we could have used more from him in the final quarter.
Favorite play: the Roy alley-oop
Nate recognized that they were overplaying him so they designed the play for the alley-oop. Perfect execution and perfect coaching.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Dec 7, 2008 1:17 PM PST reply actions
ok
i think the call on that one was that they held him before he went up for the alleyoop
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Dec 7, 2008 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Was LMA dominant in the 3rd Quarter or what?
its like he recognized that they cant guard his high release so he was shooting at will
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Dec 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions
he was amazing!
unfortunately he disappeared in the 4th… but that’s the LMA we need more of. He also played D (2 blocks) and ran the court.
Boomshakalaka
Yeh, hopefully though that's a headline we see less and less of
Was LMA dominant in the 3rd Quarter or what?
and more stuff like “LMA has another solid game, drops 23 against ______”
what we need from the man is consistency.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
LA's head is his biggest
obstacle.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
What does tha mean?
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mental. nary a forward in the league can stop him.
he stops himself.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
I think that the mental issue you are refering to...
is the insecurity of youth. With each coming season he will become more of a seasoned veteran and those confidence issue will simply go away. That is my story and I am sticking to it.
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It is probably
an accurate story to stick to.
Young guys are inconsistent. LMA has demonstrated the tools to be effective even when the jumper isn’t dropping for him. He just has to learn to use those tools consistently, and then he’ll always be contributing at a good level — and a great level when the jumper is going.
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I'm satisfied with 20 and 8 on 50% shooting and good D on Bosh.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Dec 7, 2008 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Obscenity, no, probably, possibly
If Blake misses that shot, how do you respond?
Did you miss Channing Frye… at all?
Was that Greg’s best game yet?
Was that Rudy’s best game yet?
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
forgot to mention…
bosh = 19/5/1 block
lma = 20/8/2 blocks
Draft Kyle Singler.
by Ben Golliver on Dec 7, 2008 1:22 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Wow.
Just… wow.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
yes he is soft, but he's a softie who usually rebounds and gets to the line 9 times
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
I liked the fact that Bosh got elbowed, some physical rebounding in there!
by BeloHorizante on Dec 7, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
nobody is saying LMA is nearly as good as Bosh
(at least I hope not)
… just saying this was a very nice game from Aldridge.
Boomshakalaka
Hometown bragging rights on the line
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on Dec 7, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
That was interesting in the paper today (M) that LMA and Bosh played each other like 10 times in HS in Dallas, Texas...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Greg's effort improves LMA's stat box
it's kind of hard to keep your composure when you're down 20 -Oden
Ben, such a cheater
HE gets to delete his bogus comments but us? Noooooo. We have to suffer with them and get ridiculed.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
lol i try to delete only typos… occasionally i let out an expletive and have to self censor
Draft Kyle Singler.
I thought you would never have bogus comments
I’m so disillusioned.
I NEVER do bogus comments.
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It felt like Bosh spent half the game in the locker room fixing the cut on his forehead
B-Rex bandwagon begins
question for all
should we have postgame open threads in the future? if so, what circumstances?
please advise
Draft Kyle Singler.
by Ben Golliver on Dec 7, 2008 1:29 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Word
Why limit discussion?
I support The VD Special in his attempt to support takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
People with knee jerk trade proposals after losses
should get banned from posting for 24 hours though. lol
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
by Net Ranger on Dec 7, 2008 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Addendum -
Saying Travis Outlaw needs to be traded is never “knee jerk”, it is based off of multiple seasons of terrible shot selection.
I think the "afterglow" of a win would be worth it.
I have a feeling that postgame open threads after games like last night, the L*ker loss, and the GS loss would lead to mass bannings and not much productive conversation.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
lol
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
Yes. All circumstances.
It helps to vent after a loss and to celebrate after a win. Probably will curb some fanposts, too.
Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.
Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.
by Clevelander among roses on Dec 7, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely
Will eliminate some of the “Woo-hoo We’re Great” and “Boo-hoo We’re Awful” fanposts. People can vent without cluttering the fan posts. Every game.
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by jscot on Dec 7, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 12 recs
LOL
SOME OF US, when we say “rec”, actually do it. Prezofdeath doesn’t, but what can you expect?
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by jscot on Dec 7, 2008 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
nobody's perfect, I guess
but prez brings other things to the table.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I do too rec!
You just have to hit the refresh button to see the recs go into effect….see…watch….
rec.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
by prezofdeath on Dec 7, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
ah, you're right
maybe jscot was calling me out for the same thing, but you’re right about the refresh.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
I have maligned prezofdeath. All because I didn’t know you had to refresh. Therefore, since he has educated me, I will rec him.
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Vindication
Thank you, jscot, for being a humble soon-to-be ruler of the world.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
Humble?
Honest. Honesty compels me to sing my praises all the time, too, which most people think means I’m not humble. But I am, of course. If someone is as wonderful as I am, it’s actually quite humble to let people know about it.
What were we talking about? Whenever I talk about me, I forget the other stuff.
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Wow, another day of learning on BEdge
Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.
Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.
by Clevelander among roses on Dec 7, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
That's actually a really good point.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
I like it.
Most people split the open thread cuz it’s too big and clunky, the junk is supposed to be off topic, and it takes a couple hours for Dave to get the recap up.
I like the post-game open thread idea a lot.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
by prezofdeath on Dec 7, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And to answer this question....
if so, what circumstances?
the circumstances are this—-all credit has to go to jscot for coming up with the idea. He was the first to come up with it with his “Post-Game VENT thread” in that game where the doofus held Rudy’s jerseys and the refs called a foul on rudy.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
All credit for good ideas
should always go to me. I mean, really, is this even debatable? Did it even need to be said? If anyone comes up with a good idea, it is because I planted the seed thought in their mind.
The idea came from Blog-a-Bull, actually….
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They need them rather more than we do at the moment
I support The VD Special in his attempt to support takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
LOL
That was kind of cold, but I liked it.
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I mean, come on, they have to watch Larry Hughes
I support The VD Special in his attempt to support takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
If they turn their head, BAM!, there’s Tyrus Thomas
I support The VD Special in his attempt to support takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Blog-a-Bull likes him
which is NOT a good idea for which we should give them credit.
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so wait, let me get this straight
you jacked the vent idea from blog-a-bull? I thought that was Tom’s job…
Everything in moderation, including moderation
Somebody else did
and was saying, “Oh, we should do that, oh, let’s do it.” But nobody did it, so I did. But people rec’d it to the top and left it there, which cluttered the place up, and no one else ever started one, so I decided to abandon it. But if Dave and Ben do it, it will fly.
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A new candidate
for worst joke of the month. I mean, that was the kind of joke my kids laugh at.
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Coulda been worse
we are the write brothers
by Corvid on Dec 7, 2008 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dave's a pastor
so I’m trying to come up with a way to use “rites”, but I give up. You win.
Rec’d for pure badness.
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Yeah bridge the gap
Would give people a chance to put their thoughts out there (in one place) while waiting on a recap from you or Dave. That way, thoughts have a better chance to develop independently versus being shaped by the collective force of the powers that be.
Absent a post-game thread, people will either use the clunky second half thread or sidebar threads that are supposed to be devoted to specific topics.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
I glad Frye is out
I’ve been calling for it for about 8 games now, the guy is just a chucker.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
Great win today
nice comeback, way not to quit. Blake was deadly as a spot up jump shooter.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
No Bayless?
After a good showing in Boston he gets another DNP-CD… guess we’ll have to be patient to see more of him.
Jerryd didn't show enough toughness in the last game
so Nate didn’t play him today.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Wait a minute...Jerryd didn't show enough toughness?
He was one of the few that did show some toughness.
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 7, 2008 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
No sarcasm font :)
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lol
I thought he was joking. I normally think the regulars are being sarcastic, I’m not always sure with the new kids though.
If you need any evidence that I was joking
I’m the idiot who wrote the drunk vent thread titled “Is Rudy better than Bayless?” right after the Boston game.
I deleted the thread after Rudy went 5 for 5 in the second quarter at Toronto, but I’m still a huge Bayless homer.
I think we need to get rid of Sergio, Travis and Channing, pick up future draft picks and another PF to battle with Shave-lick for backup minutes.
But as far as opening up space to Jerryd, it needs to happen by the trade deadline or I’ll be pissed off. Who was the only person that reacts with fire and success to Boston and KG’s crap? It was Jerryd.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 8, 2008 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
When did "pissed" become cool to say on Blazers Edge?
I’m pissed I didn’t get the memo.
Why are you so eager to get rid of people instead of sitting back and watching it play out? Don’t tell me it’s so that we can go further in the playoffs, because if the Blazers are going to go all the way, they will go with the team they have now. Either this is a team of destiny, or it’s a young team that needs more experience. There is no affordable player out there that is going to teach the Blazers how to play a team seven games in a row. The only way they will learn is by doing it themselves. It has never been about winning a championship this year.
I'm fine watching it play out
and I have no illusions about going further in the playoffs this season. I’m on the record of saying that we will not be able to compete with LAL and BOS and probably a few others no matter what and we shouldn’t mortgage the farm and try to make that kind of noise this year.
But I’m fairly convinced that neither Blake or Sergio will be our PG of the future that takes us to championship contention. I could be wrong… maybe Oden turns into the dominant big man we expected and Aldridge continues to improve and we don’t need a better PG than Blake or Sergio. But I would rather move on and try a new PG (Bayless or somebody we get via trade or draft) and start their development with the team so that next season that person is getting good minutes and will be ready to take us to contention next season.
As far as Travis. I’m in love with Martell/Batum/Rudy as our wing players and want time for them as backup SG and SF. Can Travis play the backup PF role? Sure, but I don’t think he’s the best we can do for that spot. I’d rather have somebody who is ready to contribute with hustle and strength off the bench and be ready to step in if LMA ever has to sit out a game or two with injury.
And Channing? I’m totally done with him. I’m right there with you in the play Shavelick camp. He can score in more ways than Channing and seems to be a better rebounder. Channing seems lost out there and Shavelick seems to have a good BBIQ.
Thus, I’m very happy to watch it play out and don’t have high expectations for this season no matter what moves we may or may not make. But by training camp next fall, I’d rather have Sergio, Travis and Channing gone, an upgrade at PF or Shavelick ready to play, and an upgrade over Blake, if possible.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 8, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
I don't understand what Sergio has done to make you think he can't be the guy...
or at least why he couldn’t be the 2nd unit guy. He’s played stellar ball all year, upped his defense to the better than average category, and is back to his record breaking assist numbers of his rookie year. He’s a money long term fit on our 2nd unit that distributes and gets everyone involved. If his shot continues to improve (his 3 point shot last year 29, this year 35) I see no reason why his long term future can’t be with this squad.
Precisely
Sergio has come a long way, and is almost perfect for our second unit already. A little better D, a little more of a threat going to the hoop, a little better shooting would all be welcome. But he’s already more than adequate to lead a “different look” second unit.
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Bayless started his development with the team the day he was drafted
Travis’s role is not the back up SF or PF, it is instant offense off the bench. Rudy does some of that, but Rudy is the back up SG.
As for Channing, he filled in really well for LA last year when he went down. His problem is probably more coaching than anything. I get the feeling he was asked after last season to try to fill the role James Jones filled last year. Nate needs to tell him to be the back up PF or the jump shooter off the bench.
As for Shav, I never wanted him to play, only to dress for games instead of Ike. I think if someone is on the bench who can do a better job than the guy in front of them, then Nate will play them. Batum has proven that.
I think
You have a more realistic vision than most people in this thread….Bayless will have a tough time adjusting to point guard…An ideal point guard, above all, needs to be the floor general (an extension of the coach out on the floor) he also needs to have quickness and very good BBIQ…He has to hit both the driving shots and be an outside threat…..So, with that in mind. Portland still has a gap there..
Bayless is a freelance type player, with a lot of energy and intensity….To be effective he has to be turned loose….and Nate doesn’t turn his players loose too much…
But I think you are correct about the players you mentioned and possibly Web, …they give Portland a deep bench, but not everything they will eventually need….The rotation can survive at 10, but as time moves on, it will probably need to be cut back to 8 for the sake of quality minutes….Most players need at least 15 minutes of PT to keep their game sharp…
We have a team of players that most people have fallen in love with…It’s hard to not like the team we have….but this is a business and the minds of basketball know that everyone will be trying to improve their rosters. You have to be able to accept making moves, if you think it will make your team better. KP will have patience, but will also be able to tell when it’s time to make some moves…I think they want to evaluate where their at from mid-season on …..The roster will change at some point, but we don’t know where that is yet…..Aggressive players are unbelievably valuable to teams…you can’t go wrong keeping those players…..
It's all about defense......
by 67 on Dec 9, 2008 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
I think
you undersell Jerryd’s A) motivation and B) youth. It is a mistake to make general characterizations about very young players, because their game can change dramatically. How many seniors in college are really the same player they were when they were freshmen?
Look at the kid at Davidson (forget his name) who is remaking himself into a PG, all in one year. He’s young enough to do that, and he’s highly motivated to do it.
Jerryd is young enough to change, and he is highly motivated to be what Nate wants him to be, so that he can sniff some PT. The kid wants to start, not sit. He is very smart, and very motivated.
So I think it is a mistake to say “Bayless is a freelance type player”. Not a mistake because it is inaccurate, I think there’s quite a bit of truth in it. But a mistake because Nate is making him into an NBA PG, and you can see when he does get on the court that he is trying to mold his game to be exactly that.
What he was a year ago and in Summer League is not what he will be by the end of the season, and is surely not what he will be by the end of this coming summer.
Remember, a year ago people said Sergio needed to be turned loose to be effective (that’s what you just said about Bayless), and Nate doesn’t turn young players loose. Well, look at Sergio now. He’s not an all-star, but he is certainly able to be effective.
Don’t sell Jerryd and Nate short. They are turning him into a PG, and he’s going to be a very good one.
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Nice crystal ball
you have there…or maybe you just have inside info…..at least I make my observations on what I see and not what I expect to see…so if I made a mistake, it is an honest one, using simple observation and using the present as proof .
I don’t think we will have 3 point guards in the future…so who will those two be?…they must be showcasing Sergio, because these minutes will belong to Bayless? Or are they just waiting for Sergio to screw up so they can justify using Bayless? (then it’s back to play me or trade me)
So it is a matter of logistics as well….and Bayless will have a ways to go to prove himself at point guard and a much shorter route to getting on the floor and doing his thing…sometimes you just can’t change a players skills to fit your needs… (you ordered ham and cheese omelet and got a bacon and cheese one) So now you turn that back into the ham and cheese one…takes a whole lot of extra cooking and may not taste as good)
The vision of all these players growing together and have it all transpire into a championship team in 2011 is a glowing one….And it’s a great vision for fans to have…..I’d like it to happen as well, but I’m sure that all of these same players will not be here when or if that happens
At the moment my view of Bayless stands as is…I don’t undersell him as a player like you suggest…I think he is a good player that has potential to get better….You always have to give them opportunities to develop, when you draft so young, and sometimes you never know what color the flower is until it blooms…..Right now I see what is on the outside of the package and it is telling me what color flower Bayless is…..
Ps I don’t sell Nate short…He is just in over his head at the moment….Like you said, he’s developing all these young players, all at once….This is a monumental task, and he needs help. His expertise is point guard/floor general with tough defense as a side…so It would make sense for him to concentrate on that and let his assistants specialize in other areas…they need a big man coach to help develop G.O.,LA and maybe Fry or Outlaw (Pryz is a big help for Oden)…they may need to get a defense minded assistant that can help them renew the fundamentals. (These players are so young that they need the basic fundamentals that they could have received in College)
It’s all about recognizing your needs. measuring the accuracy with patience,(that you need with young players) and then pursuing a solution….Never forget it’s a business, and right now it’s good business for the Blazers……It’s hard to make any moves when the stands are full and your winning games along they way….I don’t look for that scene to change anytime soon, so standing pat is a logical position to take….
However KP is always on the phone….You can’t sell him short, either…game play in the playoffs, may be good indicator of what could be missing, if anything…..It will depend on what they perceive as a satisfying season…..
It's all about defense......
Bayless looked good... in garbage time
If you really think we could replace Sergio with Bayless and not see the 2nd unit ball movement be reduced dramatically… I don’t know what to say.
Boomshakalaka
Wasn't REALLY garbage time
Down 11 with 5 minutes left, the game was very much in play. Bayless looked great even after Doc put the starters back in.
I agree with you though, that Sergio is key for the second unit. Bayless is a better fit with the first unit, which could still (despite Blake’s huge game) really use another guy who can create off the dribble. This game illustrated that again – if a team can shut off Brandon’s drives, they can make the first unit exclusively a jump shooting team.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
the day may come...
when Bayless can replace Blake in the starting lineup (defending the 1, bringing the ball up, handing to Roy and becoming a 2 guard of sorts). That day is not today.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Dec 7, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Probably not replacing Blake anytime this year
unless there’s an injury. But wouldn’t be a bad idea for him to see minutes with those guys occasionally when the offense is stagnant.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
After the fourth straight isolation play on offense with Jerryd Bayless leading the second unit, ...
people would come to their senses and realize that he’s not a point guard in any way, shape, or form.
Sometimes a person needs to see it to believe it, though; thus, until Bayless gets a chance to fail as a floor general, folks will ceaselessly clamor for him.
by AK1984 on Dec 7, 2008 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess we'll see
His assist rate in college was very respectable for a guy who wasn’t even running the point full time and didn’t have a great supporting cast to pass to.
Whenever Bayless gets a chance, he won’t fail. But in the mean time, I’m not “clamoring” for him. Nate and company will give him a shot when he’s earned it and he’s ready.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
Yeah, Jerryd Bayless had Chase Budinger at small forward and Nic Wise at point guard ...
playing right alongside him last season with the Arizona Wildcats. As it was, Budinger — who stylistically reminds me of Dan Majerle and, moreover, is kind of a Layne Staley look-alike — and Wise took the distributing pressure off of Bayless, who was mainly a playmaker looking out only for himself.
You ever see Tony Parker play?
……………………… He’s not a point guard either, is he?
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
AK is from Seattle
I think he plays for the Huskies or something, and Jerryd must have torn out his heart and stomped on it during the PAC10 season. And then eaten it.
Do you like asparagus?
lots of fans
want to see everyone on the team be the hero…some pick out a favorite player or two….It isn’t like that in the real world…
as for Bayless, he is a freelance type player. with a lot of aggression…He needs a free-wheeling system to be the most effective…He needs to be turned loose and do his thing and with Nate’s system it doesn’t fly……So it kind of leaves Bayless in no-mans land for this team…at least for now…..the Blazers still need that penetrating point guard with quickness,good BBIQ, with a floor general mentality…. This means the other 4 become an extension of the point guard….he’s kind of like the coach out on the floor……it is also important that the point guard be able to score both off of penetration and outside shot (keeps the defense honest)…this is what makes Parker and Paul so effective….especially if you add in quickness
'Liability on defense, is an asset on the bench" a quote from my basketball coach, who believed good defense won games and made the offense a product of it
by 67 on Dec 8, 2008 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
I was kind of rooting for him to get in when the Raptors had the ball and we had a 1 point lead,
For defensive purposes.
Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.
Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.
by Clevelander among roses on Dec 7, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Blazer factoid
I just realized why Rice calls Steve Blakey. I remember hearing once that Rice is a jazz fan, so now it makes sense: Art Blakey was a great jazz drummer. A list of the personnel in his band, the Jazz Messengers, reads like a “Who’s Who” of jazz.
I like our record lol, 15-6 (look on the left handside)
THAT BOSTON GAME WAS JUST A DREAM, IT NEVER HAPPENED
Come Out, Come Down, Face Out, Be Gone
Break down, build up again
Here she comes with a hand to lend
Get out of bed just to dive into the night
Torn lips and I feel uptight
Come out, Come down
Fade out,
Be Gone
WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.
[cue Charles Barkley voice]
It wasn’t a dream—-it really happened!
Everything in moderation, including moderation
Dat's just turrible.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
That Boston game
definitely happened. And Nate is going to drag out the film every time he thinks they are getting lazy or cocky, and say, “Which team do you want to be in the next game like this, the winning team or the losing team?”
Very good for these guys to have that experience. Makes them hungry.
Do you like asparagus?
by jscot on Dec 7, 2008 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
or better yet, pull out some Z-bo and Telfair tape
THIS WILL BE YOU, LA and Brandon, if you get lazy and don’t work your butt off to win!
Everything in moderation, including moderation
No - that game never happened, therefore such a tape does not exist.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
NBA.com highlights up
The last play is great— Blake gives Calderon a subtle pushoff, then Jose makes contact with Blake on the shot (minimal- good no call) and then holds his arms straight up to show the refs he didn’t foul, then Oden almost knocks Steve over with a high five/chest bump.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Dec 7, 2008 1:54 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Hilarious
See Steve flinching even before Oden bumps him? “Uh, Greg, next time let’s just to the high five, please, ok? You wanna do the chest bump thing, go find Joel or somebody.”
Do you like asparagus?
ah, you just want Oden to chest bump YOU
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
I don't think you have enough evidence for that criticism
Was he smiling? Huh? Huh? I couldn’t see it on the tape. He remembered to smile later because one of the veterans told him he was supposed to, but I bet he wasn’t when he bumped Steve.
You’re just an Oden basher. Drawing rash conclusions with insufficient evidence.
He probably bumped Steve because Steve was gunning from outside instead of feeding him the ball inside. I’ve always known Oden is a selfish player. “That will teach you, you scrawny little outside gunner. I was open on that play. Don’t you know I have a ROY award to win?”
Do you like asparagus?
this text just came from the team…
“with today’s win at toronto, the trail blazers go 4-1 on a five game road trip for the first time since the 2002-2003 season.”
Draft Kyle Singler.
that is awesome.
We need to get a BlazersEdge texting list whereby you can forward us all these goodies you get from the team.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
that s not gonna happen
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
that’s a pretty good idea… most of it is either scheduling/injury updates tho… they don’t do a ton… you can tell when they are excited about a win tho they send out stuff like that lol
Draft Kyle Singler.
Yeh even score updates would be appreciated though
during games have someone send a text at halftime like “PTB up by 3. LMA playin good D and has 12 pts. Broy is killin. 52-49.”
Somethin’ like that. Most people have unlimited texting these days, so i think it’d be kewl
Everything in moderation, including moderation
alright good idea… let’s roll this out in phases….
ladies, please leave your phone numbers, you’ll be the first to receive instant updates
lol
guys if everything goes right, you’re next…
Draft Kyle Singler.
by Ben Golliver on Dec 7, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I knew this was coming
after that “feelings” post yesterday.
Do you like asparagus?
Hmm
Are you saying you’re just screening them for me? I guess I can make allowances, if that’s the plan.
Let’s see. Jorga is air force, bfan is re-education, ben is, hmm, harem recruiter? I bet you’d go for that.
Do you like asparagus?
Age: ~ 25
Sex: I said sister…that usually means female
Location: Portland, but she travels a lot.
She’s the one on the right.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
lol just wait until tomorrow’s caption contest…. trust me you will be itching to break out a rec for the picture i’ve got…
Draft Kyle Singler.
yeh you're doin' a good job Ben.
The Bedge needs to get bigger so it can fly you to games.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
Caption:
So, anyway, I got a girlfriend and then another girl I see on the side so I can’t go out with you Rebecca. You’re cool though.
—Dave
I thought it was Rebecca thinking
Man, I wish I had hands like Martell’s. So soft. So smooth. Like his jumpshot. I could have gone to the WNBA with hands like those.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
Women and women first
Please line up in order of hotness. If you are unsure about your current hotness quotient, please refer to the most recently posted “Ben’s Booty Boundaries” list.
you in?
Everything in moderation, including moderation
by prezofdeath on Dec 7, 2008 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
i am still not over the Boston game. I like the unbridled optimism here now .
Anyway, im glad we stuck w/ things and pulled through w/ the Dub. Toronto played Brandon really well. I wonder why Roy didnt kick the ball out to Rudy or Blake more often especially in the 4 th quarter? He was driving the lane and trying to draw fouls and when it became clear that the Ref’s weren’t complying with that Game Plan I expected him to draw then pass back out … guess not …
Bargnani … LOL Im SOOOOOOOOOOO happy we have LmA! Everythyme I see that oversized Italian mountain man/neanderthal I laugh.
Our Spaniards>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their Spaniard. Although can you imagine our team w/ 3 Spani- never mind.
I loved seeing Channing go buh bye. Sad to see BayBay w/ 0 minutes as well but whatever he’s a rookie no biggie. Travis hit some big shots but still gets schooled on defense and Gawwwdd I wish he would stop instead of drive b/c he can jump 50 ft or something …
Happy w/ the Dub.
Sophia
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
yeah sorry.
i wont sign this one
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
somewhere,
twiggs, NBF, ann, hisblzrgrrrrl, and probably a few others I’m forgetting are objecting.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
My dad asked me about this
it looks like he isn’t hustling lately.
Joel is a great player when he goes to work, but he is not good enough to coast the way he has been
Prez, a word of fatherly advice
Never forget the ladies.
Do you like asparagus?
glad to see you filling up the threads again, Sophia
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
Her stats have been really down lately.
I keep yelling at the computer screen every time she has the post button in hand, to no avail.
Trade Sophia and filler for noobs and trade trolls.
Just remember
For the trade machine to allow it, you have to match both talent and looks.
Do you like asparagus?
Already said it in the game day thread: The two games against Denver and the one against Utah next week could be huge
NW division baby
B-Rex bandwagon begins
Denver we split those.. Dont know how well Blake will guard Chauncy... Also that Utah
game is not easy.
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Yeah
But it would be great to win at Utah. It hurts nothing to get the tie-breaker on head-to-head matchups against those two.
But you are right, it won’t be easy. In fact, it won’t be easy to split with Denver. We should be able to, but they aren’t likely to just roll over and die.
Do you like asparagus?
Strangest quirk of a quirky schedule
Is the back-to-back where we play Denver both nights, away then home.
Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.
Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.
by Clevelander among roses on Dec 7, 2008 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, it's almost like a mini-playoff series, where you really get to know you opponents
Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.
Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.
by Clevelander among roses on Dec 7, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Which is great, because the travel back-to-back . . .
. . . isn’t something that puts us at a disadvantage, since our opponent is in the same boat.
"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway
How sweet it is
What a way to start the day, get into work and see that the Blazers had won.
Excellent, will make for an even better day.
it was a good game
Portland blew a 10 point 4th quarter lead (after trailing by 16 in the 2nd quarter) but managed to get the win.
Boomshakalaka
Good to see the Blazers were able to out-rebound a team with so many big guys (48 - 31)
B-Rex bandwagon begins
Raptors are 28th in rebound rate
which is surprising for a team with JO and Bosh— I wonder what the numbers look like for games that JO has been healthy for.
Boomshakalaka
That might have been his best game of the season if I understood the homers*cough*announcers correctly
The deal doesn’t look so bad for Indiana, huh? Two starters for an Almost-Star with a huge contract and a solid young backup (Ford, Nesterovic, Hibbert).
B-Rex bandwagon begins
Channing
Seeing how the blazers did with out channing, and his horrible play versus the celtics, i expect him to be part of whatever deal we use to ship RLEC, let oden and lamarcus get plenty of minutes to really find their game
No trades
unless someone can absolutely BOWL ME OVER.
The buffet of Goodness needs to stay in town, what a great insurance policy he is for an injury to Aldridge, Oden, or Joel.
Outlaw haters: Pipe the Eff Down. These guys like each other and Travis is big pals with Roy.
Only make a trade if they are giving up something amazing. – Elgin
Cat's foot, iron claw - LaMarcus Aldridge screams for more. At paranoia's poison door, alley oop slam throw it down big man. - Variations on a theme by Peter Sinfield.
trades
i agree that outlaw shouldn’t go, he’s awesome, and the injury point is good, but i still think channing could go, get a little toughness in the front court
Greg's best game yet definitely. He is looking better and better by the game. We are starting to see the flashes of what he does.
In a couple of months the jump hook is going to be money. He will also start getting credit for his blocks.
If Blake would have missed I would have said it was a stupid shot because it was a stupid shot. He had room, but that he didn’t call a time out seemed dumb. It all worked out like one of Travis’s silly shots that go in.
Now all the bandwagoners are going to come back. Don’t ever give up on Greg Oden.
Well, guys
It’s been fun, but I’m calling it a night, been a rough week.
4-1. Great trip, even with the Friday night fiasco. This team is, like, good. Really good. Not great yet, but really good.
I hope I wasn’t overly pessimistic with my beginning of season prediction. Well, actually, I hope I was.
Hope it works out to get a crows at the airport, that would be cool.
Do you like asparagus?
The crows will be there
"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."
That's funny . . .
I just returned from a Home Depot run and made a little side trip to the airport on the way back. Was trying to catch a sighting of a short-eared owl — they’re often in the airport fields at dusk this time of year.
Oh, and I forot to mention. So glad Frye is out. Travis at the 4 has always been best, and Nate knew
this too. Now he gets to back up Aldridge and Frye has the garbage minute spot. Now the only problem the Blazers have is how are they going to get Bayless in. I think trading Sergio or reducing his minutes might be the answer.
Sergio’ stock is rising. Get out while you can. Bayless is going to get minute later in the year anyway when he understands all the plays and the team is use to each other.
I also agree
For Bayless to get minutes, I suspect he’s going to have to take them from Blake.
Do you like asparagus?
That´s not Bayless´ idea.
Playing against Boston he talked to Rudy for an alley-oop that they tried after. Bayless passed the ball too high and Rudy couldn´t catch it. Bayless told to Rudy something like “It was my fault”. How does that sound? Bayless looking for a Rudy connection!
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
Bayless knows
Rudy is part of the future. No matter where he plays, he’ll get minutes with Rudy.
I still think, unless there is a trade, that Jerryd is our starter two years from now, and Sergio is his backup.
Do you like asparagus?
Pistons 7-8 since the trade
Iverson is not the answer. Stuckey and Affalo are a better backcourt tandem than Iverson/Rip.
Also, Denver’s trade looks amazing so far. Even the Camby trade looks pretty good- they have a trade exception now, and Nene has been amazing.
Boomshakalaka
Mark Warkentien has done an excellent job these past several months.
With regards to the Marcus Camby trade, I’m shocked that people didn’t understand how amazing of a salary dump that was from the onset. Camby, who’s hugely overrated by unbalanced statistical metrics such as Wages of Wins, exemplifies how gobbling up numerous rebounds and tallying up eye-popping blocks via weakside help doesn’t make someone a great defender.
Warkentien, by the way, is currently on pace to win this season’s NBA Executive of the Year Award.
There might be competition from some local guy
K-dogg or something like that.
Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.
Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.
by Clevelander among roses on Dec 7, 2008 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Disagree
You’re “shocked” that a reasonably priced guy who led the league in rebounding wasn’t widely viewed as a nice salary dump? Come on.
You must have a system that trumps WoW and other types of advanced analysis? WoW predicted the Nuggest current success following the Iverson-Billups trade. Chauncey’s one of the best PGs in the league; Iverson’s just barely above average.
The Nuggets are still very weak in terms of frontcourt depth. Camby does get overrated at times but he’s still extremely valuable. The Nuggets would be even better if he were still on the roster – and possibly a true contender with the Lakers. As is, Birdman as their only backup frontcourt player makes them EXTREMELY vulnerable to injuries.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
I think you guys are both right here
Camby is a great rebounder and shotblocker but is very overrated as a defensive stopper. However, the Nuggets improvement is because of the Billups trade and Nene’s great play. Another Nene injury could be a problem for them.
Boomshakalaka
agree with you
you can’t overlook the Billups trade as a big step to being better….it was pretty obvious they needed a floor general and that’s what they got with Billups….Nene has been injured for most of his career and never has been able to prove he is an all star caliber player…They put themselves into a whole lot better situation for getting to and progressing into the playoffs….Although I do have a problem with their star (CA)…he seems to lack something..I think it’s BBIQ…..but it might just be maturity…..
I would have to assume Detroit had some future vision when they made this trade….they will miss Billups a bunch and already are feeling the mindless crunch of Iverson
'Liability on defense, is an asset on the bench" a quote from my basketball coach, who believed good defense won games and made the offense a product of it
by 67 on Dec 8, 2008 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
I, too, agree that the Denver Nuggets lack depth on its frontline.
Behind Nenê and Kenyon Martin, it’s basically a mediocre Chris Andersen and an out of position Linas Kleiza — who’s had a terrible season thus far regarding offensive efficiency and defense — with scrubs Cheikh Samb and Steven Hunter as the third-string post players.
I, therefore, suggest that the Denver Nuggets should attempt to acquire one of its former players sometime on or after 12/15/2009, as that’d shore up the team’s reserve frontcourt.
FROM DENVER & TO NEW JERSEY
PG Chucky Atkins ($3,240,000)
FROM NEW JERSEY & TO DENVER
PF Eduardo Najera ($3,250,000)
Despite supposedly being a solid free-agent signing this past off-season, Eduardo Najera hasn’t been integrated into the New Jersey Nets’ rotation this season — which is due to the acquisition of marketable Chinese sensation Yi Jianlian, as well as the emergence of rookie Ryan Anderson — thus, he’s out of place in the Garden State.
As a result, it’d make sense for the Nets to part with Najera and his four-year contract for washed-up point guard Chucky Atkins — whose salary next season is just partially guaranteed for a paltry $760,000 — since that’d be fair, well-balanced transaction for both teams.
0-2. Toronto, it's time for...
B-Rex bandwagon begins
by Norsktroll on Dec 7, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Anthony Parker should eat more Snickers to stop Brandon
(Photo by Ron Turenne/NBAE via Getty Images)
B-Rex bandwagon begins
by Norsktroll on Dec 7, 2008 2:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Look at Brandon's ankle in that picture.
He must have some SCARY strength down there… it looks terrifying.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
yeah....those pictures on the ankles as the players cut
is always astounding….this is far from the sharpest cut i’ve seen
They'll be fine
Those guys will be good once things clicked. You saw their future in the first quarter.
Do you like asparagus?
Frye was punished for the Boston game
everyone else was forgiven,,,,,,,,I didn’t see the game…. are we sure Frye caught the plane….I thought maybe he still might be lost in Boston somewhere….
Unqualified answers…..
1. live by the three die by the three
2.No
3.No
4.No
'Liability on defense, is an asset on the bench" a quote from my basketball coach, who believed good defense won games and made the offense a product of it
The story of the game
Offensive rebounds. We lose by at least six without them.
The key stretch comes just outside five minutes left.
Greg gets an OR, puts it back up. Two.
Rudy gets an OR and is fouled, make both. Four.
Lemarcus gets an OR, Greg gets fouled, make one of two. Five.
Rudy gets an OR, Brandon converts a jumped. Seven.
Rudy gets his third OR in the last minutes, Blake hits the three. Ten.
Ballgame.
i really want Jack LaLannes power juicer.
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 7, 2008 2:46 PM PST reply actions
Jack's quite a guy
educated as a chiropractor…never practiced…but is what…like 95 yo? swam the english channel in his seventies
For how long and for how hard
does Toronto have to suck, before Bosh or Calderon becomes available? I ask because they seem to have a lot of the same player interests that we have (likes Euro’s, shooters, uptempo guys), and Colangelo seems to be a fairly intelligent and reasonable person. They’ve got to know that Bosh isn’t signing an extension in 2010, and Calderon, despite what he brings now, isn’t going to be this valuable forever. I think they need to sell off and start over, whether if that means this season or next, might be the question.
I want Calderon too.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
They just fired their coach.
Mitchell’s grind-it-out offensive philosophy clashed entirely with the GM and the roster he built. They’re not going to panic just yet because getting rid of Mitchell was hitting the reset button. Give them some time to test Colangelo’s vision before you start saying they need to trade their two stars.
The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.
One of those two stars (Bosh)
is going to be leaving either way. Calderon on the other hand, has a big long nice contract. They could very well keep him. The problem is, if you’re building for the future, by the time you get good, a guy like Calderon will be at the tail end of his career. However, if you trade him for what he’s worth today (he isn’t ever going to be worth anything more), you can get assets that better matchup with a team that’s in the rebuild mode, which like it or not they are. O’Neal comes off the books just in time for the summer of 2010, and they can start fresh from there, probably with a couple lottery picks, a ton of young players from trading Bosh and Calderon, and a 60 million dollar treasure trove of salary space. That is how you do it. That is how we did it. You lump all your assets into a 2 or 3 year period when you plan to be bad, and you get everything you can out of those years.
The problem with Bosh
is that nobody wants to trade much for him unless A) they are in win now mode or B) he will sign an extension. You don’t give up a lot for a player who will likely run off to NY in a year and a half. So while he might be on the block, what they can get for him isn’t enough to begin to compare to his talent level. And you probably can’t sign that extension until this summer, anyway.
Calderon is BYC this year, so hard to trade as well.
Probably no big deals for them until the summer, then we’ll see. By then, they may have righted the ship and be playing really well. I expect that to be the case.
Do you like asparagus?
Calangelo picked Bargnani over LmA...
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Calangelo also cooks bacon naked.
true story.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
I never put clothes on
bacon before cooking it. Who does? That is really weird.
Do you like asparagus?
True... but he's an innovator in a certain brand of basketball...
to be fair, KP picked LMA over Roy.
Does that matter?
He got both.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 7, 2008 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Well, kinda
Both were targetted and because LMA is a big you gotta take him first— because someone else will take him.
KP said and knew Roy would be more important at first, but when you can get a guy after the other guy, it’s smart to take the one dude before he’s stolen away even though you want the other dude more.
It worked out perfect, so I don’t see either chosen over the other.
Morty
exactly
Aldridge was 1 or 2 on almost every draft board (2 on Toronto’s apparently!!!), so even if KP felt like he wanted Roy more than Aldridge, to get both he had to get Chicago to take Roy at 2.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
WOW... I'm good
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors
Raptors Open To Deals
GM Bryan Colangelo hasn’t unplugged his phone to avoid hearing trade offers while the Raptors are indoctrinating new coach Jay Triano.
“This is a constantly evolving game and we’re going to try improve the roster as we move forward,” Colangelo said after firing Sam Mitchell. "We’re going to continue to have the same kind of trade talks I would have if we were 15-10 right now.
“Jay and I will have a better chance to sit down and talk over the course of several days. You don’t want to make any quick judgements, quick movements. We’ll see what evolves.” — Toronto Sun
Don't break your arm
patting yourself on the back, I’ll do it for you.
Wow, you’re good.
Do you like asparagus?
I figured this one was dead, and if someone was going to do it, it'd have to be me.
Toronto can’t stand pat this year. If they do, and the season continues on its current path, it’ll look really bad for Colangelo. Do your business or get off the pot. You can’t remain in the middle in this league or it’ll kill you.
Rudy's Blog...
Sure it’s been posted around here before but i never seen it. Anyhoot, here’s the URL to the translated version.
You’ll have to copy/paste this bad boy:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http3A2F2Fwww.adn.es2Fblog2Frudy_fernandez2F&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
if that doesnt work...
run this thru a translator yourself: the blog of the spanish fly
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
Or learn Spanish
I’ve never taken a Spanish class, and I can understand most of that extremely easily.
McBob seeing pt vs. Boston!
and dominating! He’s +3 so far, best of the team!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2008120711
Boomshakalaka
Stupid KP... why did we let that guy go....
He also had the highest Roland Rating of anyone on the entire team.
http://www.82games.com/0708/0708POR.HTM
j/k
Indiana has to be one of those Teams You Don't Want To Play
Liable to be blown out or take down the best teams in the league.
wow he played 10 min in their win over LAL... and was -1 but with 6 rebs
He was a +7 in 10 min vs. the Thunder (8 point Indy win)
He was a -8 in a career high 14 min vs. NJ (11 point Indy win)
He’s down to a +4 now, but he’s getting tons of pt- 10 minutes in the 1st half… against Boston.
Fire KP!
Boomshakalaka
Thanks guys for giving us yet another stellar example of how stupid +/- is.
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LMA you are MONSTER!!!
38:10 Mins 9-18 FGs 1-2 3s 1-2 FTs +18 6 Off 8 Rebs 2 Blks 20 Points! - LMA vs Tor 12-7-08
The fact that ......
….this team can win when Brandon has an “off” night is a great sign, especially on the road. I thought that, as big as Blake’s shot was, the hustle down low at the other end after the Bosh miss was just as big, if not bigger. The number of times I heard Wheels say the shot was contested by GO or that GO may have had his hand on the shot was almost uncountable. It may not have been GO’s best game statistically but in terms of clutch performance it sure was.
"Every time I see Stern in public now, I kept expecting him to point up to a helicopter hovering above, like Sosa did to impress Tony in "Scarface," followed by the sight of a beaten-up Tim Donaghy being pushed out of the 'copter in midair," Bill Simmons, ESPN Draft Diary 2008
Guard Rebounding was huge
Steve Blake – 7 rebounds
Brandon Roy – 5 rebounds
Rudy Fernandez – 8 rebounds
20 of our 48 rebounds
solid.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Dec 7, 2008 4:05 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Excellent Point! :)
rec
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LMA you are MONSTER!!!
38:10 Mins 9-18 FGs 1-2 3s 1-2 FTs +18 6 Off 8 Rebs 2 Blks 20 Points! - LMA vs Tor 12-7-08
Three reasons Portland won:
1) Offensive boards/second chance points
2) Steve Blake’s hot hand
3) Rudy
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
I loved Oden's game tonight
Yeoman’s work inside. Jermaine made some tough shots and we needed Greg to step up on a night when other than a couple of minute stretch Prz wasn’t at his best.
Also Kudos to Fernandez for a great second quarter and Aldridge for a great third quarter and Blake for hitting shot after shot.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
I liked Oden's game more for what it says about the future...
… then how well he actually played.
I loved his body language and effort. He missed a lot of shots, but he was much more aggressive offensively and defensively. It looked like he finally said to himself, “I don’t care what anyone one says; I am just gonna go out and ball.” For so much of this season Oden has looked like he’s worried about making mistakes. In today’s game he still made mistakes, but he made them going 100%… and when he starts doing that consistently he’s going to start improving very, very quickly.
by PoliSam on Dec 7, 2008 4:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Go back and read Dave's game preview...
point number six. Is the man prescient or what?
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
yeh
also noted that rebounds would be key. well called dave.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
well...
Rebounds are ALWAYS key. Keys to the game/points/etc are like psychics—they make generic observations that are broadly true in a variety of situations but sound somewhat insightful.
Gotta love Mike Rice’s “first to 100 wins the game” key to the game. Well no crap. Being ahead late in the game is good and usually means you’re in a good position to win the game.
I will eventually get around to doing a Fanpost about this subject.
"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan
did frye really fly back before the game?
that was a joke, right?
No, he was in uniform as far as I remember
Ike joined Shav on the best dressed list.
B-Rex bandwagon begins
Gotta respect Indiana
They’ve already beaten Boston and LA, and they are giving Boston all they can handle again. Kudos to the Pacers- impressive group they have.
Boomshakalaka
Yeah they dont SUCK
and some teams just match up really well with others.
sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
I knew we shouldn't have traded Jack
dang, how depressing.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
I know
I miss his mom’s food. She’s got some tasty stuff.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
yeah but my aunt in Boise got a blue ribbon at the county fair.
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
It was a move for the future
In the short term the Pacer profit, in the long run we have to believe B-Rex will be much better
B-Rex bandwagon begins
totally
I’m very happy we traded Jack and agree that Bayless will be better. Jack never really filled up the assist line for how much PT he got. Even if Bayless is never a great passer (like Jack), he will be a better scorer and at least as good defensively.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
and we sometimes forget that Roy played 4 years of college ball to Jerryd's 1
Watching Arizona and Summer League, I really think Bayless could be a midget version of B Roy. In fact Roy’s senior year stats at UW are pretty close to Jerryd’s freshman year stats at AZ.
Of course, I’m not saying Rex will ever become as good a distributor as Roy, but some things take time to develop and I would put it past the 20 year old and try to say what he can and can’t do just yet.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
With man-to-man defensive stalwarts Rasho Nesterovic and Jeff Foster ...
splitting minutes at the pivot — as well as Troy Murphy tirelessly crashing the glass at the power forward position, which is done in spite of his so-so defense due to being a slow-footed plodder with little lateral quickness — the Indiana Pacers are able to neutralize the likes of Kevin Garnett, Andrew Bynum, et al.
Also, Marquis Daniels has brought his A-game this season during a contract year for him.
since when has anyone ever needed a plan to stop KG from scoring...
His offense in the post, is bare bones at best. And I’ll take him shooting from the perimeter all day over Allen firing from outside, or anything that Pierce does.
While Kevin Garnett isn't a multifaceted scoring threat like Tim Duncan, there's still no way ...
that he can be left guarded one-on-one by a subpar defender without him thoroughly obliterating his opposition. The same goes for other first-rate face-up scorers like Chris Bosh, Dirk Nowitzki, et al. In Nowitzki’s case, Phoenix’s horrifically porous defensive tandem of Shaquille O’Neal and Amare Stoudemire allowed the big German — who’s certainly not a back to the basket low-post player — to put up nearly 40 points via a barrage of pick-and-roll and pick-and-pop plays during a recent matchup.
Neutralize
the man said…you take KG out of the game and you beat Boston…Atlanta gave them a scare last year and the neutralizing of KG was a factor along with Allen having problems…….there has to always be a plan for KG, if you want to beat Boston
It's all about defense......
by 67 on Dec 9, 2008 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Neutralize an average offensive player?
Howbout, neutralize a their good offensive players? I can see having to make a gameplan to avert him when’s on the defensive end, but his offense isn’t anything to get worked up about. He can have his 17 points per game… worry about Pierce.
pretty sure those games were Indiana home games
they kinda got owned when they went to Boston
Josh McRoberts is more skilled than Shavlik Randolph.
Unfortunately, though, McRoberts sharp passing from the high-post, decent efficiency on mid-range jump shots, and deceptiveness as a shot blocker are almost useless in the NBA due to his lack of athleticism.
you really think Shav's skillset had anything to do with that trade?
That trade was all about Bayless.
Boomshakalaka
definitely had nothing to do with shav
they only invited him out 10 days or so befre training camp
shav’s invite had more to do with channings ankle surgery
I think JOSH’s skill set had more to do with his status and path..of course he came out of clooege 2 yrs earlier…
I think you all are just underestimating Shavlik . . he contributed his rookie season, played backup PF his 2nd till Webber was hurt…then got injured 7 g later..but he was slated to be the starting PF for Philly last year…his injury hadn’t healed enough to allow it…but that is completely in the past…
Per 48 minutes played in 2006-07, he averaged 15.6 points, 14.5 rebounds, 1.88 steals and 2.68 blocks. (He was injured in November)
This preseason he avg 10 &6 w/60% FG but of course it was preseason and only he was trying
Shavlik Randolph is certainly more athletic than Josh McRoberts, but ...
I’d strongly argue that “McBob” is the more skilled player among the two guys.
perhaps..still..Shav's 50 pt HS game was pretty nice to watch
so were most of those ..2X parade all american in HS…top ranked hs player as junior … 23 pts his 1st game at duke…he had some mad skills..injured senior yr..all 3 yrs at duke really….hip surgery…mono half season miss…
sleeping giant i tell ya with alot to prove…he got his jump shot back this summer…
he had 10 pts in the 1st half of the last exhibition game vs Utah…scored 6 pts in 4 mins last season in Orl, w 2 rbs a steal and a block…he’s a loaded weapon…
doubt we will see it happen here…but trust me he surprised everyone there this summer…they just aren’t sure what to do about it yet
Does Channing's struggle open the window for Shav?
More than ever, Frye has been playing like a SF trapped in a PF’s body and has been unable to even do the things one wants from a small forward. Frye’s demise saddens me because he’s a delight to have on the team and a perfect fit for the city of Portland, but he’s been missing in action whenever he’s given PT. Altho Outlaw plays the 4 behind LAMA, that really only works well when there are certain mismatches. Travis hasn’t the body, the interior game or the blue-collar mentality to really qualify as a POWER forward. Does this add up to a chance for Shav?
Channing has been playing like a waiter trapped in an NBA players body
He serves the ball and points up to other teams on a silver platter.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
now that is an unfair characterization
Channing has won a few games for us this year. His midrange jumper is money.
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
Won a few games for us?
I’m not sure if you’re trying to be serious or if that is meant as a joke…
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
My take
We are about to find out — he can be moved after 12/15 and he becomes guaranteed at some point after that..
I feel uncomfortable talking about this at all without first saying this is all MY OPINION…none of this has anything to do with things Shav & I talk about, his opinions, anything the team or the players talk to him about…it’s all me as an observer
Shav is better “true 4” than Trav: Trav has role as scorer — he has mad skills, tremendous upside still, great permiter game, handle improving, been getting to the rim – – Shav ever present foul line in high post/low post baseline — involved in every rebound – – major fundamentals..knows exactly what everyone on the floor is supposed to be doing…
Ike I haven’t watched so much, but it strikes me that he was never chosen by the team, but came here as part of an “inclusion package” deal rounding out kinda thing..
Shavlik was a late camp invite – - they didn’t know what he could do until he got there. He played his ass off. We had him mightily tuned up. He feels better than he has in his life and it shows. He did everything that was asked of him including his 43 minutes with 53 seconds off endurance test in Utah. He fouled out taking a charge.
I doubt they thought he was going to be a roster player…but here he is..
IKe & Channings salary + cap holds are huge compared to Shav $…
Martell didn’t look ready tonight ==> more trav time at the 3…
Channing I don’t know – I first read about him when I was doing the roster revue for/with Shav when he was on his way out there..What I’ve seen is a lack of proper placement?..I don’t understand exactly..but maybe lack of integration with the game flow? I don’t know what he could be doing performance wise because he just seems to be freelancing out by the 3pt line alot..hasn’t been consistent when down low, but there seems to be no plan for him on the floor sometimes.
.I’d love it if Shav could get in uniform occasionally — maybe some nights dress an extra big and give a 2 or 3 a breather, ay? .. Cause just playing your way into this league twice is quite a story, but I’d love for him to get some court time (anywhere) so we get to see his potential.
I'm high on Shave (I know, it's Shav, but it's an inside joke)
Are you his personal trainer?
I would love for Outlaw, Frye and Digou to be moved and Shave be given some PT. Martell will be fine. Not sure how much you’ve followed him, but I’m guessing he will be “ready” in 5-10 games Max. He came into camp better than ever and should be able to get back to that quickly since he rehabbed very nicely.
I think Shave could bring a lot more than Channing is bringing at this point. Channing is a little taller and all, but he doesn’t know how to use his size and body, so it’s pretty much pointless. Shave is much more versatile offensively, too.
I’m really glad the Blazers gave him a chance and can’t wait til he can start to contribute. You’re right about Ike. The only reason he gets to dress is probably cause he is making so much more money and it would almost be improper or something to have Shave dress instead of him.
But if Ike isn’t dealt by the deadline, there is no way Portland would not revoke his rights to clear the cap hold since he’s worthless. And Channing actually might have slight trade value (despite what I’ve said about his incompetence on the court), so hopefully he can get packaged and shipped out with Travis.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
What is Przybilla lately?
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
dumb... what is wrong w/ przybilla?
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
He gave you 7 points and 8 boards at boston
in 26 minutes…
8 points and 14 boards in 26 minutes vs. the wizards……….
Everything in moderation, including moderation
He was playing weird, different some how. Perhaps he is really tired or something else? I dont know that's why I was asking.
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
dunno he played weird against boston, normally he's NEVA Scerrddd!
But yeah 2nd game in a row he played tentative…
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
that is it. i can tell
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
I didn't see the Boston game, but it looked like something wasn't right with him in the Toronto game. I watch him a LOT. Probably the ankle.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
While Jermaine O'Neal is a power forward on offense, ...
he vigorously mans the paint on defense. That’s his forte, though.
O’Neal, however, definitely isn’t as interesting as Rasheed Wallace in that regard. Wallace is a somewhat soft combo forward on offense with three-point range, but he’s a flat-out ferocious low-post anchor on defense.
That has to be the first pass he's converted from Rudy.
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
there have been a couple
i was thinking out loud in here the other day that Joel’s new found softer hands might have to do with Rudy not knowing he “couldn’t catch” and giving him some looks down low
haha no doubt
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
4-1 BABY
MAN WOW 4-1
we had a great road trip only losing to the defending champs but still im not making any excuses, with the win we moved back into first place 1/2 game over denver WHOO HOO
FIRST PLACE MAN IT FEELS GREAT ! ! !
That was a hell of a road trip
The Boston game is the one we’ll all remember, but dang we did good in those other games.
That was the type of road trip the second best team in the Conference goes on!
Time for some home cookin’ now, even though we’ve still got a ton of tough games until Jan. 7
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
I downloaded the google chrome internet browser. puts explorer to shame
never like firefox or whatever it’s called .
sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
I downloaded the google chrome internet browser. puts explorer to shame
never like firefox or whatever it’s called .
sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
you like it ehh?
I tried it but I wasn’t a big fan of it. Maybe I’ve just got nostalgic ties to Firefox or something.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
me and firefox got into a fight.
it wasn’t connecting or communicating w/ comcast… we all know comcast is an evil anti capitalistic communism monopoly :) so i had to say buh bye to firefox else couldn’t use the internets. I thought i was doomed w/ IExplorer
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
ahh yeh well browsers are like ice cream flavors
you just try ‘em all and keep the ones you like. and if you’re like me, sometimes you stack one scoop on another and use IE and Firefox simultaneously for different purposes ;-))
Everything in moderation, including moderation
I use Safari. There you go
Chrome not yet available for Mac me thinks, so I didn’t try it out.
B-Rex bandwagon begins
oh yeah Chrome should be ????
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
try operah
it has the fastest load times of any of them
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
What's a blocked shot?
The official scorer credited GO with 2 blocks. Looked like at least five to me.
Right. I bet the league changes it after the team challanges that. He had at least 4 clean blocks
and 1 that was iffy but on the block side of things.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
well
i dont now the exact def of what is or what is not but i would think anytouch of the ball keeping it from going in the hoop with out goal tending
Christmas tree set up accomplished! :)
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Haha our family is crazy
we’ve had ours up for like 3 weeks.ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i’m sick of it.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
I feel like it's too early for Christmas, i've been so busy I feel wholly unprepared for Xmas day.
I have only a couple things ordered from Amazon and that’s it. Anyway, my mom had her Xmas dec’s up weeks ago!
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
We're
still waiting for my bro to get home from college. Gotta go to the rents house and set it all up this next weekend
I know, My bro is in Prague right now.
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
wow
if ya’ don’t mind me askin’, what’s he doin’ over there? Military type stuff?
Everything in moderation, including moderation
My cousin lives there is a historian (random) and English professor.
Anyway My bro just decided to up and fly across the world. I’m kind of jealous , I know he’s having fun. Last week they took the train to Germany and he’s off to Madrid Spain next week to visit some other cousins… lol
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Im going to Spain next summer. My cousin is having their first kid this spring and
I cant wait to see it. Probably gonna be a Rudy Clone because I think everyone in Spain looks like Rudy and Sergio. LOL jK but yeah Im excited.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
check out Nate's reaction at the final buzzer
I’ve never seen him that pumped up.
http://www.nba.com/video/teams/blazers/2008/12/07/RAPTORS_120708.nba/index.html?player=team&q=POR
Boomshakalaka
ARGH what does "undefined" mean?
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
i refreshed like 800 times, oh well. I remember seein nate jump up and down and pump his fist
he was 1/2 way on the court . I cant believe he let himself get out of control like that. LOL JK
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
This win was huge
One of the biggest of the year…the bounce back…fighting back fr 16 down..losing 10 pt lead & fighting some more…
Already tougher after Boston experience
Tremendous psychological boost to end on a positive…immeasureable..and to have it be “not Roy”..usta cringe seeing Blake coming to NC to play in college cause he will never stop trying to win..
Oden looks like he's not worried about getting hurt anymore.
He’s starting to throw his body around a bit, not walking on eggshells.
yes
he also has the most double doubles … im so proud of him. We are literally watching the making of a legend :)
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
yes
he also has the most double doubles … im so proud of him. We are literally watching the making of a legend :)
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
do i hear an echo in this thread
or a broken record?
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 7, 2008 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
pressed enter twice. it was an accident
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
I have never double posted here
I did not think it was possible. I thought there were safeguards against it.
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
It's been doing that with me, too. I hit my return/enter button twice too fast or something...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Anyone else watch the NBA TV broadcast?
It had the Raptors’ feed, and I hated the audio so much it still bugs me. You could hardly hear the crowd or the sounds of the court, only the announcers. It was strangely very offputting for me :-(
Great win. No post-Boston malaise this year!
O’Neal has been missing that short mid-range jumper most other games this year, so it’s nice we overcame his one good offensive game to get the win. LMA has been underrated (if ya ask me) for his defensive play this season, even when his offense was sucking, and he played great. Bosh is a good matchup for him because he doesn’t overpower him with strength and they are equally quick— of course, Bosh is still capable of a big game on LMA like last season but it’s a good matchup.
The Raptors came out hungrier than I expected, but we just too good for them. We’re a good team.
Mortimer
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and I have missed you. That Anne Rice novel must be really good .
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I watched that feed
One announcer sounded like Ray Romano. They both sucked. I hated how the guy would stop in mid sentence and say and just say the name of the player who just scored.
I agree about the crowd noise too. I said in the open thread that it reminded me of the summer games in China.
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