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Today's Poll -- Poach a Celtic

Obvious intro alert: the Celtics are the defending champs and they are loaded. 

I covet my neighbor's rings.  So, I ask you, which Celtic would you poach for our roster if you had your pick?  Which of their players, if any, pushes us over the top?

Throw out the salary cap for one morning.  Consider these things: age, fit with roster, fit in the locker room, and our championship window. If we want to win now, the answer is ... Garnett?  Does he fit? Would he last two months in the same locker room as Joel?  Pierce? Could he coexist with Brandon? Maybe take the easy route and grab Ray Allen for his class and 3s off the bench? Or, the "perfect point guard" for a dynasty: Rondo? Are you sold on him?

Tonight should be spectacular. Please vote and let's talk. 

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

Poll
Blazers Edge changed the rules of the world and gave me the opportunity to poach a Celtic. I choose...
Ray Allen
71 votes
Kevin Garnett
243 votes
Paul Pierce
123 votes
Rajon Rondo
481 votes
I decline the offer because i don't think any of these guys fit.
97 votes
I decline the offer because I despise the Celtics.
134 votes
I decline the offer because I am unable to suspend reality.
60 votes
Other
10 votes
Big Baby lol
44 votes

1263 votes | Poll has closed

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I cant stand the Celtics or is it just that idiot yelling all game that sold his soul to Adidas

by Miker Blazer on Dec 5, 2008 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Hmm...

I’m not sold on Rondo, but I think he’s better than anyone we’ve got.

That being said, he may look better surrounded by that Big Three. I’d take him on the cheap, but not for a big-time contract.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Dec 5, 2008 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

What are our big three+, chopped liver?

We would actually have a deeper team around him, with similar levels of talent. I’d take him in an instant.

by hoopla-pdx on Dec 5, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Big three...

Not quite there yet. They’ll get there, but not there yet. And Rondo defers to Pierce much like Blake does to Roy. Rondo CAN, however, finish at the rim…

by haildablazer on Dec 5, 2008 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Rondo

He can rebound(for his position), defend & distribute at an all star level. I would love to have him.

I want Rajon Rondo

by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 5, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Our team would be deeper,

but I think RIGHT NOW Garnett/Pierce/Allen > Roy/Aldridge/Oden, but the gap is getting smaller every day. I would love to add Rondo.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Dec 5, 2008 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, well, well... Ben! You're playing mind games with us!!!

This seems like a question some politician would ask!!

I’ve heard Paul Pierce is a class act. But there you have it. I’m not going any further. I feel this would cross the line of “Blazer Ethics.”

The human imagination is too close to reality that such a question like this may be reality some day, whether we all like it or not…. however, lets not forget how nice Danny Ainge was back in the day to give us the pick that would then be Brandon Roy, so maybe this question is something we should think about.

by hotstuffdb22 on Dec 5, 2008 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

RONDO!

I rarely watch college hoops, but I did happen to notice Rondo in one game. I could not take my eyes off this guy, with his long arms, huge hands, and quick feet. I thought, “Oh my God, if only the Blazers had a point guard who could defend like this kid.”

During last year’s Celtic playoff run, I kept hearing how Rondo was a liability, and I thought, “Are you crazy?” This kid doesn’t have to be an offensive dynamo—look at all the other stuff he’s doing on the court. He’s EVERYWHERE!

Now, I love Steve Blake and think that in some ways he’s a better fit for the Blazers—especially the way he can shoot the three. But I do make an exception to my Celtic hatred when it comes to Rajon Rondo. Garnett, Allen, & Pierce get all the credit, but I think the kid with the funny-looking shot is certainly a key to their success.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Dec 5, 2008 11:14 AM PST reply actions  

Big Baby, baby!

That is really hideous
--jscot

by prezofdeath on Dec 5, 2008 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

Depends.

If we’re making a push now and need a veteran presence, probably Pierce. He would fill in a hole at the SF position and bring a lot of experience to the table.

If we’re talking long term, probably Rondo. It’s hard to distinguish which talent is his and which is his three veteran teammates making him look better, but we need a solid long term look at the point and he’s shown potential as well as growth this year.

If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes fit in a doghouse? None! Ice cream has no bones!

by Arby on Dec 5, 2008 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

rec

Let’s shoot him first, boil him after. – Elgin

He who life can no longer surprise raises his eyes, beholds a planet unknown. - Peter Gabriel

by 22baylor on Dec 5, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

rec

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 5, 2008 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha!

KG irritates me, and I don’t even have to play against him. If I can’t like someone when they’re losing to the L*kers, I just can’t like someone.

by haildablazer on Dec 5, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I have always liked Ray Allen,

and for many years I wanted him on the Blazers. But now I think he’s too old for this team and he plays the same position as Roy and Rudy – both of whom I now like better. Garnett just irritates me in no positive way. Pierce is good, but I think Martell will be better soon. So that leaves Rondo and Big Baby. Okay, I’ll poach Rondo and leave Big Baby crying in his crib.

"...and that loud noise you hear coming is the Portland Trailblazers." - Charles Barkley

by RebelRogue on Dec 5, 2008 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

Take away Ray Allen and they are the ugliest team in the NBA

We don’t need no ugly guys.

I don’t know about Rondo either. I got nothing against him but I think he’s a bit like Shawn Marion with Steve Nash. His game has significantly benefited from the 2.5 superstars he plays with and don’t know if it will translate as well to another team. (I’m not hating on Rondo at all, I still think he’s good. I just don’t know how good.)

by tominhawaii on Dec 5, 2008 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

So tom,

you got a thing for Jesus?

I heart taxes.

by everett on Dec 5, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Not Really

I think Rondo is better than I thought. I still think a lot of point guards would look really good with Boston’s 3 headed monster.

by tominhawaii on Dec 6, 2008 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Rondo

I want him. Sign him in Free Agency.

by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 5, 2008 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

If I want rings (plural) now, KG.

By all accounts, his teammates always love him, only the opponents hate him… I’m fine with that. He’s like LMA on steroids: Can shoot deep(er)… has more reliable, more effective post game… he’s a better rebounder… he’s a better defender. He doesn’t need the ball, and Roy can take the BIG shots. He could teach his tricks to LMA by abusing him in practice daily. Then, after 4 years and 4 rings, he retires and we go with LMA. The way I see it, Joel gets under people’s skin when they play against him, the same way Garnett does to players… cuz he’s a good defender down low. I don’t think they’d have trouble co-existing if it meant rings… even though they might get into dustups in practice now and again.

I understand that many think we need better PG play and hence voted for Rondo… but I think having a Rondo keeps the ball out of Roy’s hands too much. Roy needs the ball, and I want him to have it. Otherwise, Rondo would probably fit in here just like he has there.

In this hypothetical, I want rings. I vote KG.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Dec 5, 2008 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

KG is too old

Rondo is the guy

I want Rajon Rondo

by TheGreatDane17 on Dec 5, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That's an excellent rebuttal.

Every year people say that the Spurs are too old and will start to suck, that Coby has lots of miles and can’t possibly keep it up, and I’m sure there’s more.

KG hasn’t ever been referred to as injury prone and is lean.

Most importantly, KG is only 32.

Are you going to question his intensity/drive/fire? A guy who was starved of even advancing in the playoffs probably wouldn’t mind leaving as a legendary ring holder.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Dec 5, 2008 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

so so right.

KG is not old.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Dec 5, 2008 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude, Coby Karl is like 24 and out of the league.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Dec 5, 2008 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice!

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Dec 5, 2008 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

If you want rings now

you take KG.

Hence why i took KG. Veteran, hungry, mean, and really darn good. The guy is better than his stats because he wants to win and doesn’t care about stats.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 5, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I want the current Blazer roster with absolutely no changes...

…other than adding Webster. I truly believe that by the end of the season we will wonder why we ever thought a trade of any sport would make us better.

by antediluvian on Dec 5, 2008 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

NONE OF THE ABOVE

Poaching some other teams players means we’re admitting we needed help to get the job done.

I think we already HAVE all the pieces we need to get the job done, and we don’t need to resort to cheesy antics like nabbing some other team’s stars to get to the promised land. That would only reduce the specialness of the accomplishment.

Write-in Rudy for All-Star 2009!

by Majikj0n on Dec 5, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Have to agree...

Who are we to say that this Blazer team won’t get it done? I chose the “can’t suspend reality” and, yeah we probably won’t win a Championship THIS year… but what about for the next five…?

by haildablazer on Dec 5, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

hey cool

I thought for a moment and decided that Rondo would be the best fit, give the most improvement at the positon over the Blazer incumbents, and is not yet thinking about how many more years he needs to get the full NBA pension. I feel better knowing the BE literati plurality seem to feel the same way.

by torridjoe on Dec 5, 2008 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Coming off a triple-double its hard not to give rondo some attention. Hes definitely a special player, but i think if its a question of what player puts the blazers over the top for this season, youve gotta go with pierce or garnett. Their presence is worth just as much as their playing, and their playing is worth alot. Rondo is still developing (doesnt really have an outside shot yet), but if you were going to go for the longterm then definitely rondo.

by spinz on Dec 5, 2008 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

I'd go with...

Larry Bird off the bench…or on the bench!

by blazersrock on Dec 5, 2008 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

+1

Bird FTW

I heart taxes.

by everett on Dec 5, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

KG is the only reasonable answer.

PP is pretty terrific too, and a better scorer, but KG’s intensity, leadership, and defensive force puts him at a completely different level. He’s got at least 3 years of top production left, plus another 2 or 3 years of very effective 20 mpg type production. I can’t believe he’s losing to Rondo on this poll, I really wonder if folks are watching the same game I’m watching. Last year’s celts without KG would’ve been a 50 win second round team. Last year’s celts without rondo would still have won the title.

by howlingfantods on Dec 5, 2008 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

Rondo would be near the top of my list - from anywhere/any team

He’s young, quick, talented and works hard. He’s also shown that he can be the catalyst that holds together a team with lots of weapons. Add championship experience and it is hard to think of many other guys who would be as valuable to us.

Only Tony Parker beats him out on my list of players I’d like to get (CPII needs to control things too much, but I suppose I wouldn’t say “no” to him either).

by hoopla-pdx on Dec 5, 2008 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

Rondo’s is almost exactly the PG we want – his shooting is just a lil off. I’d poach KG though. Then I’d trade LaMarcus for a good PG. LaMarcus is so freaking soft, the upgrade to Garnett would be gigantic. Imagine. A PF who rebounds and plays lights out d. We’d be savage.

The Odenphant is true king of the jungle.

by maxmillian on Dec 5, 2008 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

And what about when KG retires...

And you just committed the cardinal GMing sin of trading Big for Small?

by haildablazer on Dec 5, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Indiana's really bummed about

trading Jermaine for Ford.

“Don’t trade big for small” is a soft guideline, not a cardinal sin.

by howlingfantods on Dec 5, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

KG-no, I cant stand him

Ray-tno, oo old, no need for a shooting guard
Pierce-no, I have lost all respect for him after the wheelchair incident at the finals

so, I guess Rondo

by thomasikehara on Dec 5, 2008 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

I doubt Rondo would mesh well with Roy

AS they both need the ball tobe effective. In my eyes Rondo is a better Sergio. Howver is we want ot win now a Ray allen would be a better fit as he is a better Rudy. we could form a very nasty three guard lineup using Roy, Blake Allen or Rudy, Roy, and Allen. Besides his age is to our benefit as we do not need anymore youth. He has experience under Nate which would also be useful. PLus he has a better personality than Pierce or Garnett which would fit the Blazers better.

by NWfan on Dec 5, 2008 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

wow...

I WISH we had a clone of Roy…
(your lineup has two Roys, fyi)

by haildablazer on Dec 5, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I took KG

Honestly, we could use a vet to speed up our learning curve. He’s hungry. He’s a team player. He annoys people he plays against. He FAR better than his stats because he plays for the team.

A few years out of him would give us a couple of rings. A few years with him and Aldridge will learn a LOT.

That said, I’m not overly sold on actually doing that. However, to play the game and to say I would, it’d be for KG. No more potential. Any move I’d make would be for the gold now, not a continuation of the building process.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 5, 2008 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

I'm incredibly surprised

Leon Powe wasn’t on that list. He’d be an absolutely perfect backup 4 for us. Tough inside player, great feel around the rim, grabs a ridiculous amount of offensive boards. If not for Rondo being on their team, Leon Powe would’ve been my choice.

by as11osu on Dec 5, 2008 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

Rondo

No question. Instant championships, and championships for many, many years to come.

Take away Rondo and Boston becomes a very, very good team, but not a dominant team. We could beat them in the Finals if he’s gone.

Add him to Portland, and we’ve got a substantive upgrade at the point, especially on defense and running the break.

He fits our timeline — very good now, but young so many years ahead.

No doubt a big factor in his success is playing with three all-stars, one a superstar. That won’t happen in Portland, will it? Oh, yeah, I guess it will.

KG gives us 2-3 instant championships, and our guys learn a lot, but then he’s done. Rondo is part of 10 championship teams.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 5, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

Powe would run great w/ Sergio

It’d be like three years ago, when LaMarcus was backing up ZBo and he’d come off the bench and that team would just run and dunk and get up and down. He’d be an upgrade over Frye, because Channing offers very little in the hustle department, while duplicating what the rest of the 2nd unit is all about (shooting). So I’d “poach” the hell out of Leon Powe. And then I’d let him grow with the rest of ’em.

by FlyingOutlaw on Dec 6, 2008 1:45 AM PST reply actions  

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