Although Portland fans who troll other blogs are smug idiots, opposing fans who act all sanctimonious about some overzealous, yet harmless gloating are also idiots.

The world is full of idiots, though, so this whole to-do about nothing doesn’t surprise me one bit.

Since BEdge is so huge, it bleeds over into the other blogs. Heck, sometimes there are more BEdge posters on another teams page than their own. I read the blogs from the other teams, but I don’t post there. I sorta figure it’s their own party. This is our house, where we weep over the losses and revel in the wins and have pointless discussions over a cold beer about who we can trade. The weeping and reveling would be greatly different if every third post or so was from team “X” fan, either throwing it in our face or even offering his condolences in a well thought out analysis.

So I figure since this is our house, then that is their house. If you invite yourself to their party, even if you behave yourself, eventually somebody’s gonna poop in their closet and you’ll get blamed.

as you are new to this as you admit, keep reading and you’ll soon know the difference… took me a while also. You’ll know the difference when you read a post by one of your fellow fans on another blog site and get embarrassed…. There is nothing wrong with cross-posting (I did not say cross-dressing TIH), but I think it all comes down to basic manners, and the Internet has dumbed down conversation some to the point where anonymous posters can just say stupid stuff without consequence.

If I see the word “offend” or “offended” again I am going to puke. Why is everyone so easily annoyed? Is it because many of you are product of Portland Public Schools where being de-balled is taught before learning the ABC’s?

I am very thankful that the Blazer’s Edge has limits, such as no swearing etc. It is also a very intelligent and thoughtful forum. Blazer’s fans are the best fans I have seen but there are a few that have no personality, have no sense of humor, and have no b@lls.

You can be intelligent and rib at the same time. There is a balance for almost everything. Kevin Garnett, for example, crossed the line when we played in Boston several weeks ago. He doesn’t deserve to be merely beaten. He deserves a stomping!
I’m not saying stoop to the level of a Jerry Springer fan but we shouldn’t be stuffy elitists either.

The bottom line is this, if the Blazers adhered to the code of conduct some expect in our fans, we would suck! I’m glad Oden didn’t offer a hand to Allen last night when he knocked him down. I’m glad LMA was not classy and dignified last night when he elbowed Garnett’s eye. I’m glad Pryzbilla did not check his package at the door when he yelled obscenities last night. Sports are intense, thankfully.

Natural, as far as trolling goes I think there is a time and place for everything. For example, blowing up the Timberwolves site telling them how bad they suck is probably not cool. However, blowing up the Celtics site and bringing them back down to earth is something I have no problem with. They brought disgrace to the game of basketball when they played us a few weeks ago and they needed to be called out.

I enjoy it when opposing team’s fans offer their opinions on Blazer’s Edge. It is an opportunity for all of us to offer a collective verbal beatdown! Here here Natural.

I think that some of it was warranted and some is not. Just try to adhere to the rules Dave has maintained (tried) here on Blazersedge.com and everything should be cool. In regards to “dear portland” that guy is obviously so upset about losing and we have all been there. My advice to him is get over it.

Sophia

Maybe somebody much funnier than me could do a fanpost titled something like:

TROLLS!!

How to roll with trolls:

When you come across the troll, respond as you would if this were the Simpson’s and giant advertising Billboards have come to life and are destroying your town. (This method is guaranteed by Paul Anka too! [guarantee void in Tennessee])
“Just don’t look! Just don’t look” (find this episode you will enjoy it, Treehouse of Horrors something)

Know your troll:

Troll in Sheep’s Clothing (TSC):
A troll who posts ridiculous ideas as if he were a fan of your team.
Habitat: Your favorite SBN sites
Quote: “Look I just want what’s best for our team”
Fact: He wants the exact opposite of what is best for your team.

Somebody much funnier take it from here:

I dont recall Boston fans coming to the BlazersEdge and bragging and boasting after they crushed us earlier this year. Had they done so, no doubt the perception towards them would have been of trollers and poor winners.

So what makes it ok for Bedgers to go sophomoric on them and then turn around and excuse-make it as simple fandamonium? I read the posts from our “fans” and they were emberassing. They may not have come across as shamelessly had they been posted on the BlazersEdge, where they belonged.

Seems like common sentiment is suggesting Boston deserved it, considering KG’s prior antics at our teams expense, so how does acting with similiar malcontence make it right?

Its apparently problematic to now suggest Bedgers act with class or feel some contriteness for fear of being labeled as pious and moralizing.

just regarding the last sentence in the main post. I totally understand the passion and commitment to the team. I would never apologize for being a Blazer fan either…..say if I went to an away game, but….

well the first example that came to mind is this and please, I’m not trying to start a debate here, it’s just an example. I’m an atheist and I’m not going to apologize to anyone for being such. However, it is another thing entirely for me to, for example, go into a church during a service and start yelling about how there is no God. No one there is going to appreciate my passion or conviction or what have you, they’re just going to be insulted and defensive. It would be extremely classless to do that. Now, we’re only talking sports here, but the concept is the same. There’s no need to extol amazing fandom at people who just want to talk amongst other celtics fans.

as soon as i read “this Fan Post will probably tick some people off” and stopped reading.

Then rec’d it. Cause I’m a recaholic.

I think once you go from rooting for your home team to posting gloating comments on the opposing team’s message board you have officially crossed the line and are no longer a “fan”. You are a “dork”.

And I said some pretty nasty things about BOS fans today here today but I didnt do it on their site and meant every word of it

My theory is that Boston fans are losing it because:

a.) the Cavs are a lot better than last year and may very well beat them in the playoffs; and
b.) last year the Celtics, IIRC, blew out most if not all of the Western Conference contenders on their West Coast swing(s).

They need to chill. Their team is a little worn out right now. Heck, how could they NOT be so worn out, given their nonstop neurotic level of intensity (which is even higher than last year in my opinon).

And who cares about winning 73 games? When Chicago won 72, their team was as fresh as a daisy (early exit the prior year, new energy with Rodman, MJ had just taken two years off). Trying to repeat that feat just sets yourself up for being burned out at playoff time like Dallas was a few years ago.

The C’s are old. It’s a long season. They can afford to pace themselves a bit, lose a few more games while Big Baby sweats off a few more lbs.,… and then come out with guns a blazing in the spring.

As far as the trolling goes, it’s just stupid either way. Thankfully I have a filter. I was screaming at the TV last night, especially every time that Paul Pierce went the free throw line in the 4th quarter (nice 3 point play when he should have been called for a charge – nobody talks about that 5 point swing). I can talk about it calmly now, but if I had been in here or on the Celtics blog I would have been going postal, getting banned, and disgracing myself as a BEdger. Instead I just got quizzical looks from the wife and dog.

for the most part, stopping by from time to time to give a perspective on a trade proposal or thanking for a win is ok, but we have to be careful when making other comments and we should stay away from them after wins.
 Just imagine that you have a very ugly son/daughter, you and everyone knows he/she is ugly, but if someone not close to you says that “beauty is not his/her strength”, you’re gonna be mad and rightly so.

As being celtics fans (out OF USA & Foreigner) and daily readers of blog[s] from diff teams here in SBN and sometimes post on them too, i would say that internet are free for all kind of people. You cannot stop haters, trollers and so on even by Banning them. They can just create new identity and come back.

 Theirs a lot of way how to say “how great we are” to other people by not offending them and make them accept the loss. If i create for example a diff id here and starting to say all sh**y things in this blog and pretend to be a fans of any team, i dont think that people here just go to other blogs and rant the same way i do (or much worse).
 Ignoring silly comments is just one of the proven way to stop a bad conversation. I dont know also if theres a feature in SBN blog to lock specific TOPIC before it go worst.

 I read daily in this blog and post sometimes if i feel that conversation is good as i do from other Blogs and Celtics blog.

Wish you all a Happy New Year and Wishing you more wins to come and reach the team goal for this season and seasons to come.

If you are relatively new to blogging just understand that often the trolling exceeds the friendly good natured ribbing level. If people could keep it in check and not have it de-evolve into the muck that trolling often becomes I’d agree. But too often it just becomes ugly for everyone the troller and the responders.

Sort of off topic but I’m a Blazer fan and I have to kind of agree with the Celtic fan in regards to our reaction post game. For a regular season game it does look a little like over kill when we drop confetti and the announcer is screaming Blazers Win! Blazers Win! like we just won the Championship. Which coach or athlete has said, when you do something good, pretend like you knew it was going to happen and act like it could happen again? Our post game celebrations are pretty extreme BUT unlike the Celtics our goal this season isn’t a championship. Celtics fans should know that for most teams a win against them is huge. So reactions are going to be more extreme. Plus I think we drop confetti after every home win, so just get over it Celtics fans. The only person with a right to complain is the janitor that has to sweep it up after everyone has left.

I was apparently banned “for general trolling” for this post in response to a Celtic’s blog moderator noting that he had banned a half dozen blazers fans.:

“The way to deal with bad speech is to suppress it, squelch it and disallow it. Then punish the blasphemous offenders so they don’t poison the purity of our bodily fluids ever again!!!”

I guess I was being a bit sarcastic, but is that so far over the line really? Maybe, I don’t know, I still don’t like the idea of suppressing speech. As the supreme court says “the remedy for bad speech is better speech.”

The real problem is because people communicate on both ends of the internet. If it is a face to face, i dont think that where goin to use those kinds of silly words as it is just a Friendly conversation between opposing teams ( unless they’re both drunk :P )

That reminds me to ask SBN if they ever plan to add it.

Not a big deal for me. If KG going to talk trash and Celtic fans going to approve it or excuse it, im going to give them hard time when we win.

If they dont like me its ok.

Well, sure. But here’s the problem with your argument: it’s only “friendly” if you do it with your FRIENDS—not a bunch of strangers. And even THEN, it’s only friendly if you do it with considerable tact.

I have friends who are fans of other teams, and we enjoy tweaking each other when our teams win and/or theirs lose. But even THEN the tweaking has limits; I wouldn’t call or email them right after their team got eliminated from championship contention, for instance. It’s not “friendly” if you know the other person is genuinely in the dumps and you pile on.

To go to another team’s fan site and gloat to the total strangers there after my team beats theirs—that’s just bad form, in my opinion. There’s nothing friendly about it. My enjoyment of my chosen team doesn’t depend on contributing to their pain and disappointment. (Although I might laugh with my fellow fans about that pain—amongst ourselves.)

One other thing: whatever the derivation of the term “fan,” I don’t think you need be “fanatical” to root for a team and to have a strong identification with their fortunes. Those who are truly fanatical about it aren’t much fun to be around for the most part; they need to get an actual life. During a Blazer game, I’m prone to yell and cheer at the t.v. screen, and if the guys lose, I’m miserable for about 15 minutes. But then I pretty much calm down and refocus on other stuff—like, you know, my life. I don’t forget (entirely) that NBA hoops IS a game.

Guys who react to a loss by their team by kicking their dog, arguing with their wife, and/or just generally moping around until the next game lack balance in their lives. They end up not even being true fans, in the sense of supporting their team. They’re the guys who boo at their teams and call for guys’ heads in fan blogs. They’re the reason some players start looking at playing pro sports—their childhood dream—as a J-O-B.

Having said all that, I think your fanpost was an interesting and thought-provoking one. Keep it up.

in what rights people have to exercise free speech and what does it mean when a moderator suppresses speech on a blog.

This is not the place where I get excited about my rights to free speech any more than I’d get excited about your right to free speech in my living room. When you are in my living room, I get to decide whether or not I want you hanging around saying what yer saying. It’s be nice if I was cool enough to let you know what the expectations are and all that, but if it gets unpleasant I will ask you to leave, just like they would in a bar, coffee shop or any other private space.

Some whiny bitter little baby making a whine post? I’m just laughing at him.