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Blake is ranked 12th in the western conference in defense. Horrible. He's the reason our defense has been inconsistent this year.

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Mo Williams behind Luke Ridnour?

Calderon in the middle of the East?

Chauncey Billups behind D. Williams?

Chris Paul sets the record for consecutive games with a steal and is fourth in the West?

Look I am not saying that Blake is a great defender. But just because this guy is saying something, doesn’t mean anything at all.

I mean almost this entire list is flawed. About the only two I agree with are the top two in the east, and I mean so few PG’s actually contribute positively to the teams defense. Rondo and Billups do without question IMO, but other than that, its hard to be a great guard on a PG (the player on the team least likely to turn the ball over per time of possession), and the PG’s job is to distribute the ball, etc. etc.

I guess what I am saying is I don’t think this list is either valuable or correct.

I mean would you rather have JJ or Blake? Because JJ was a terrific point guard defender, but I would think that everyone in Portland is still picking Blake.

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Dec 31, 2008 3:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Steals do not equal good defense.

In fact, defense is almost impossible to categorize with stats and numbers. It takes eyeballs. Williams is probably a little better than Chauncey. Mo Williams is pretty terrible, but maybe a little underrated on this list. A lot of it just has to do with physical tools. When Sergio tries to defend bigger point guards he gets posted up. On the other hand, when Fisher (who is a great post defender) plays against quick penetrating guards (like Rondo) he gets killed. The problem with Blake is he isn’t quick enough to make up for his lack of strength. Hopefully what he gives us on offense makes up for what he lacks on defense.

I think for the most part this list is accurate. You could argue a guy moving up or down a couple spots, but they are about where they should be.

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 31, 2008 5:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

its all subjective

I agree that you can’t back up a lot of perimeter defense with stats…defense is largely subjective, and perhaps each defender has a different role they fill on the team so comparing stats is like apples to oranges. i think they were a little too generous with tony parker however.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Dec 31, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Its not all Blake

The Blazers have a lot of bad defenders.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 31, 2008 4:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's the team.

Perhaps the most relevant statistic not included on this list is “team defense”. Mismatches are a fact of life in the NBA. All the better teams have one or more such situations they can exploit – and do. At the same time, they have the capacity to off-set the mismatches other teams employ with their own defensive sets. One of the reasons veteran teams are often more effective at defense is due to the fact that the players have played together extensively, know the other teams and their strengths well, and can better employ successful defensive strategies. Young teams will be inconsistent.

There is no such thing, after all, as any team having 5 all-stars starting. The teams that win championships, as a result, are those that inevitably have the best “team” defense. Blake’s defensive weaknesses are less glaring on the Blazers, precisely because the Blazers have Aldridge/Oden/Pryzbilla. Eventually, of course, we’re likely to develop/trade to improve this spot.

by Eben Calder on Jan 1, 2009 5:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

A perimeter defender is always at a tremendous disadvantage.

It’s basically a foot-race to the basket and one of the competitors has to start the race facing backwards.

Next time you watch somebody get beat off the dribble, rewind and note the position of the rest of the team. If they are in position then half those drives aren’t even attempted. The onus is on the TEAM to prevent layups.

by cantdunk on Jan 1, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks to the OP who provided the link to my original blog entry for the members of this board. It is always appreciated, on my part.

If I can answer any follow-up questions you might have it would be my pleasure to do so.

Off the bat, let me say that I’m impressed with the approach that several of you are taking, to begin with, when an individual blogger seems to be disrespecting the starting PG for your team which is currently one of the best in the NBA.

IMO, Steve Blake’s strengths as a solid PG in this league are at the offensive end of the floor, where he is good fit [at least temporarily] as a running mate for Brandon Roy.

As the Blazers continue their inexorable climb up the WC standings … what is most important is Blake’s ability to:

1. Hit “open catch & shoot 3’s”;
2. Make solid passes;
3. Provide decent perimeter D on opponent PG’s who are generally smaller and quicker than Mr. Roy; and,
4. Relieve Mr. Roy from the full burden of handling the ball for Portalnd for 48 minutes a game;

rather his overall ability as a defensive player … especially with Bigs like Aldridge, Przybilla and Oden on the floor behind him.

When you get right down to it … Brandon Roy is the primary Point Guard on this team, not Steve Blake, who should gradually see his minutes reduced as the Blazers continue to improve and fully incorporate outstanding younger Guards and Forwards like:

STARTERS:
Roy
Webster
Batum
Aldridge
Oden
——————————————————-
KEY BENCH SUBS:
Bayless or Rodriguez or Blake
Outlaw
Frye

into their principal rotation.

Please feel free to provide a comment on my blog. It’s a pleasure to exchange thoughts about the game with knowledgeable NBA fans. :-)

by khandor on Jan 1, 2009 12:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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