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The Rose Garden Experience

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The Quintessential Quattro would first like to spread our congratulations to those who deserve it:

First: What an incredible game against Boston. Our utmost congratulations to Nate, his coaching staff and the entire team for that spectacular performance. Absolutely outstanding

Second: The Q4 would also like congratulate local all-pro Blazer's Edge contributor Blazermaniac Andy for his contest victory at the game last night, winning a voucher for a new pair of Jordan shoes. And again for his subsequent victory over the patron sitting behind him who stole his winning voucher, ripped it up, and then ran out. The Blazers security staff came through with the assist and scotch tape.

Now, to the meat and potatoes:

We at the Q4 are a collection of minds that have joined together in our love and support of the Portland Trail Blazers. As season ticket holders and sports fans in general, there are a number of items we expect to see at sporting events.

1. We expect that people are going to cheer for the home team (and the visiting team as well).

2. We expect that during big offensive and defensive plays, fans will stand up and cheer.

3. We expect that people will be chanting, clapping and cheering from tip-off to the final buzzer.

We at the Q4 participate in all of the above. When there is an alley-oop from Sergio to Rudy, we jump up and cheer. When Batum breaks the sound barrier chasing down a fast break and blocks the ball, we jump up and cheer. When Oden dunks and rocks the shot clock for a good minute afterwards, we stand up and cheer. When any of our myriad of 3-point shooters knocks down a huge three to cap off a big point run, we stand up and cheer. When Joel "The Thrilla" Dolla-Dolla-Billa takes a charge, we stand up and cheer.

We at the Q4 have noticed a growing trend that is very troubling to us. There is a smattering of people who come to games who are apparently not prepared for watching a sporting event in the company of 20,000 other fans. They seem to think that their sporting event experiences should be like their living room experiences when they are watching the game form home. From the 300s to the 100s, events have occurred to us and many others involving "fans" (supposedly rooting for the Blazers) who get belligerently angry when Blazer fans sitting around them are cheering, standing and chanting (and in one case, angry that people were leaning forward in their seat during the tense final minutes).

Being rational Blazer fans, we at the Q4 fail to understand this irrational behavior. Who spends money and takes time out of their lives to sit in an arena filled with 20,000 other people, and then proceeds to get angry when those around them clap, chant and stand up and cheer? We feel that it is reasonable (and perfectly normal) that on big plays fans will stand up and cheer. It is not going to happen on every play, and fans who stand up and cheer are nine out of ten times seated again by the time the visiting team clears the ball to the half court line so that everyone can watch the next play from the seated position.

We acknowledge that it is 100% acceptable if you do not want to stand up, yell, cheer and high-five. Some people are not into that. However, those people must realize that there are thousands of people in the arena every single game night who will be chanting, clapping, standing and cheering. We feel that Blazer "fans" who are unable to come to this realization need to either not go out in public and attend sporting events or sit and take a minute to think about how irrational it is to attend an event with 20,000 other fans and then get angry when those fans are standing and cheering for the home team.

We feel that these Blazer fan on Blazer fan conflicts perpetrated by people who do not seem to grasp the concept of being one non-cheering fan out of 20,000 cheering fans and feel they need to bring down those that are trying to cheer and enjoy the game are a detriment to the game. It hurts the fans, the Blazer organization and the entire atmosphere and energy created every game night at the Rose Garden. It is an unfortunate situation as it has reached a point where fans are threatening bodily harm on others simply for cheering for the Blazers. This trend is unacceptable and needs to be reversed yesterday if not sooner.

The bottom line is that this season has been spectacular for this team, people are excited, and people will cheer at the games. If other "fans" cannot handle Blazer fans cheering in a positive, reasonable manner for the home team, it is going to make for a long season.

Once again, congrats to the Blazers for the huge win over the Celtics.

We wish Brandon Roy a speedy recovery and we hope to see everyone at Friday's game against the Hornets standing and cheering!

Go Blazers!

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Wow!

thats all I can say, ‘wow’.

sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 31, 2008 11:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I can say other things

but I might earn a temp ban if i did.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 31, 2008 11:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts

Kick those people out.

My section was sooooo loud to begin the section. It has now become a rather quiet section. The season ticket holders seem to frequently sell their tickets as I see new people every night.

They however, do not complain about my VERY vocal shouting, so live and let live. They DO stand and cheer a little on good plays but not as much as I’d like. Still… whatever. I just have to shout twice as much to make up for them.

Lastly… you must be the guys to my left off in the distance somewhere helping to start up cheers. Kudos to you guys. Was the Garnett sucks or Boston Sucks chant that you guys started last night?

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 31, 2008 11:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i really should proof more before posting

my fingers have the strangest notions as to what I’m trying to post.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 31, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

they were off to my left too!

where were you sittin last night?

by BlazersOrBust on Dec 31, 2008 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I will tell you that while this crowd was awesome....

…I was pretty disappointed too. A section to our right (in the 300 level) started the wave….the wave! I had thought that had finally died back in 1994 or so. Lame

That 70's show:
Kelso: Red! I guess ur wondering why I'm going through your stuff. See, I needed to borrow your saw...because I need to chop down a tree...because there's something stuck in it...an animal...a rabbit...and I would like to return that rabbit to the wild so it can lay its eggs!

Red: Kelso, rabbits don't..............how the hell did a rabbit get up a tree?

Kelso: uhhhhhh Eric threw it up there.

Red: Eric threw a rabbit up a tree?

Kelso: Yeah, he's a sadistic bastard.

by 92wastheyear on Dec 31, 2008 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that from my seats

It would start and then continue out of my view behind the scoreboard, but unfortuneatly it ended before re emerging.

.

by JTDuck22 on Dec 31, 2008 1:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Luckily (in my opinion) it was going the opposite driection

from where we were sitting. It would have had to travel the entirety of the whole arena to get to us.

That 70's show:
Kelso: Red! I guess ur wondering why I'm going through your stuff. See, I needed to borrow your saw...because I need to chop down a tree...because there's something stuck in it...an animal...a rabbit...and I would like to return that rabbit to the wild so it can lay its eggs!

Red: Kelso, rabbits don't..............how the hell did a rabbit get up a tree?

Kelso: uhhhhhh Eric threw it up there.

Red: Eric threw a rabbit up a tree?

Kelso: Yeah, he's a sadistic bastard.

by 92wastheyear on Dec 31, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

it was kinda funny because I could see one guy in the section the wave started in apparently trying to yell ten or so sections down to continue the wave

.

by JTDuck22 on Dec 31, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

That was my section 314. I don’t mind a good wave, but I prefer it to start a long ways from me so it can be in full effect by the time it gets to me. I played along for his sake though.

There was one dude in 316 who seemed to absolutely love it and would was a solid contributor. I loved that guy, he looked like he should’ve been in the movie Animal House.

Anyone else have tickets in 314?

by MavetheGreat on Dec 31, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in 315, saw those guys start the wave

and they frantically tried to keep it alive

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Dec 31, 2008 5:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and PS

314-316 are some of the loudest sections and habitual standers. I love it. Even the two old guys next to me in their 60’s get up frequently and clap and cheer (they usually save it for the 4th Q).

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Dec 31, 2008 5:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I sit in 331

and the people in 330 are the ones who start the wave. They have tried it 3 times now. Very lame.

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 31, 2008 3:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

332 here

same wave that I saw. Then he tried to reverse it….no go

That 70's show:
Kelso: Red! I guess ur wondering why I'm going through your stuff. See, I needed to borrow your saw...because I need to chop down a tree...because there's something stuck in it...an animal...a rabbit...and I would like to return that rabbit to the wild so it can lay its eggs!

Red: Kelso, rabbits don't..............how the hell did a rabbit get up a tree?

Kelso: uhhhhhh Eric threw it up there.

Red: Eric threw a rabbit up a tree?

Kelso: Yeah, he's a sadistic bastard.

by 92wastheyear on Dec 31, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in 330

And there is a big guy (40 year old or so) on the front rail that turns around and tries to get it going. I don’t mind “the wave”, you may think that it’s passe, but it’s all in good fun. If that floats somebody’s boat that I’m OK with it. Not everyone needs to join in.

by parkinglotj on Dec 31, 2008 10:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

keep on keeping on

enthusiasm is infectious…

if there are kids around watch the language otherwise go bananas

fans like the q4 win games!!!

by Ben. on Dec 31, 2008 12:20 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

+1

Cheer them without being a blankety-blank.

Give the Celtics fans their space, and give them respect, and needle them gently – that’s what you would want to be treated.

Let’s keep it New Testament in the Rose Garden. They can let it get Old Testament in Oakland, for the Raiders. That’s not for us. – Elgin

It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew

by 22baylor on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm trying to imagine

an entire arena filled with stuck up snooty people who give a golf “par clap” after a good play rather than cheering. A full arena of par claps…now that would be be strange, yet hilarious.

"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP

by Arby on Dec 31, 2008 12:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That is called Wimbledon

check it out

That 70's show:
Kelso: Red! I guess ur wondering why I'm going through your stuff. See, I needed to borrow your saw...because I need to chop down a tree...because there's something stuck in it...an animal...a rabbit...and I would like to return that rabbit to the wild so it can lay its eggs!

Red: Kelso, rabbits don't..............how the hell did a rabbit get up a tree?

Kelso: uhhhhhh Eric threw it up there.

Red: Eric threw a rabbit up a tree?

Kelso: Yeah, he's a sadistic bastard.

by 92wastheyear on Dec 31, 2008 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wimbledon has

the stray drunk fans that cheer on the hot tennis player from time to time. we have haarlow so maybe she would get the cat calls.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Dec 31, 2008 3:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When I sit at the top of the 300 section I don’t block anyones view when I stand up for all sweet buckets!
Aren’t I considerate with my lack of money!?

by pklym on Dec 31, 2008 12:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The way I see it

Is that those of us "blue collar’ folks who go bananas, can only afford 300 section tickets. Most of the people below that (not all….but alot of them) are going to be a little older, and not quite so ‘rambunctious’.

I got to go to one game this year in the 200 level because a vendor from work, hooked me up, and it was awesome, but hardly anyone was cheering more than just a clap.

 

by tmundal on Dec 31, 2008 12:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

There is a smattering of people who come to games who are apparently not prepared for watching a sporting event in the company of 20,000 other fans. They seem to think that their sporting event experiences should be like their living room experiences when they are watching the game form home. From the 300s to the 100s, events have occurred to us and many others involving “fans” (supposedly rooting for the Blazers) who get belligerently angry when Blazer fans sitting around them are cheering, standing and chanting (and in one case, angry that people were leaning forward in their seat during the tense final minutes).

I thought this is why they made luxury boxes. – Elgin.

Would the people in the back stand and clap and dance along, and the rich people in front, just rattle your jewelry. – John Lennon

It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew

by 22baylor on Dec 31, 2008 12:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The worst part of the whole ordeal...

was the guy was supposedly a Blazer fan and we are Blazer fans. If we were cheering and standing for Boston, that would be understandable, but we werent. Our section showed some great support during the 4th quarter when he was yelling at us to sit down and stop cheering on every good play and the whole section errupted and took all anger they had against Garnett out on that guy. Shortly there after he was kicked out and we got to enjoy the final 2 minutes of a FANtastic win. Go Blazers!

by UWRoyBoy on Dec 31, 2008 12:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What?

Seriously? There are people that tell you to sit down?

I’ve had tickets 7 rows up from the court (thank you my friend’s company, and his inability to go to two games), and we are yelling screaming and standing up, and no one is telling me to sit down, and this is in the section which supposedly is too rich to enjoy the game.

I can’t believe that people actually took the time to yell at you to sit down. I don’t understand that at all. I mean I don’t think I would know how to react to that. I think I would just stare at them in disbelief for a second and then keep yelling. Has this person never been to a game before of any kind? I mean I just can’t comprehend that this actually happened.

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they have been to a game before. It was against Houston and they did the same thing. They left the Houston game with 5 minutes left in regulation. They just don’t get it.

by UWRoyBoy on Dec 31, 2008 1:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know that people

could not get it. That’s just bizarre.

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Dec 31, 2008 1:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fine manifesto, friend...

Fortunately, up in Sec. 331 where we customarily dwell, this is not typically a problem. I do, however, keep in mind the season ticket holders sitting directly behind us are elderly and cannot leap to their feet quite as quickly as we younger whipsnaps can. So I try to be as courteous as possible.

Here’s my whine: People SHOULD NOT enter a row to get to their seat while the ball is in play. This is observed in hockey and I would love to see the same for basketball. I missed a Sergio-to-Rudy alleyoop earlier this month b/c some guy coming back from the can was trying to get to his seat. Wait for the whistle, brother!

by Badalona Baddie on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Roger that one!!

I sit on the end ….and dillholes are always coming back late from tha half…late to the game…leaving early and so forth….I hate it.

That 70's show:
Kelso: Red! I guess ur wondering why I'm going through your stuff. See, I needed to borrow your saw...because I need to chop down a tree...because there's something stuck in it...an animal...a rabbit...and I would like to return that rabbit to the wild so it can lay its eggs!

Red: Kelso, rabbits don't..............how the hell did a rabbit get up a tree?

Kelso: uhhhhhh Eric threw it up there.

Red: Eric threw a rabbit up a tree?

Kelso: Yeah, he's a sadistic bastard.

by 92wastheyear on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Represent 331

Loudest section in the arena.

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 31, 2008 4:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was embarrassing myself last night.

I was so excited I got a little out of control late…screaming “si se puede” when Sergio and Rudy were icing the game from the line. Ummm…yeah. But at least I’m not the only one acting like a nut in our section. What row are you? We’re in D.

by Badalona Baddie on Dec 31, 2008 7:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well, since I know what you look like...

at the GSW game on 1/10 I’ll turn around and give ya a salute.

by Badalona Baddie on Jan 1, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

sounds familiar

I haven’t been to a game yet this year, but last year i had a similar experience. I was sitting down in the 100 section for the first time ever (i usually sit in the 300s or 200s) and I was really excited. Now being myself i cheered very enthusiastically, but I eventually started to feel uncomfortable. Usually when I cheer I am surrounded by very vocal people that love every second of a game, but while I was down there it felt as if i was the only person that actually cared about the game. It was easily one of the most awkward feelings i have ever had.

by brioe162 on Dec 31, 2008 2:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I sat 8th row during the NOH game

and I remember cheering so loud that the lady infront of me would turn around and give me the dirty eye a few times. i was confused as that has never happened before. i agree with the OP…whats the point in coming if your not going to get excited? you are wasting your time and money.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Dec 31, 2008 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well done Q

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Dec 31, 2008 5:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We're own our own in Section 114

My wife and I are season ticket holders and sit down in Section 114. That’s how we roll! Actually, that’s not how we roll at all; we just spend a disproportionate percentage of our income on this affliction. Soooo, when we’re at the games we are often the only people in our section that seem to be awake. We jump, scream, participate in every chant – we’re engaged the entire game! We haven’t been told to “stand down” yet, but I don’t get the feeling that we’re liked by our fellow seat mates. It doesn’t stop us, but I can’t imagine what type of frenzy we’d work ourselves into if there were even 3 or 4 other fanatics in our section. We might think about upgrading and move to Section 315 and join the real fans!

Go Blazers!

by ThereGoDaGame on Jan 1, 2009 9:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I love your signature.

I used it myself for awhile until I stole QP’s comment.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Jan 2, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

she means your screen nam, she used it as a sigline for quite a while

December 18, 2008.

"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212

by maid tu rek on Jan 2, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Garden

So much more enjoyable when everyone is focused on the game and not what the people around them are doing or not doing. I people are not prepared to deal with the crowds when they go to a Blazer game, then they just need to stay home so they don’t ruin it for the rest of the section.

I’ve found that the people causing problems for us enthusiastic cheering fans are the ones who are just there for a game or two during the year because someone they knew couldn’t go. If they were “real” Blazer fans, they would already have their own season tickets. Maybe it is the lack of sport event viewing experience this city has since we only have one pro sports team. Some people think (very incorrectly) the Portland Symphony and Blazer games are both similar entertainment activities when they are looking for something to do. You don’t normally see people standing and cheering and chanting at the Schnitz, so maybe it is a bit of a shock to them at the Blazer games. Maybe they need to join in with the wave though the next time in rolls through instead of telling fans to sit down and not cheer.

by Go Blazers! on Jan 4, 2009 10:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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