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Game 32 Recap: Blazers 91, Celtics 86

Now that was a satisfying win.

Boxscore

General Observations

The thing I liked best about this win, hands down, was that the Blazers stepped up to the plate physically.  Lamarcus Aldridge started standing toe to toe with Kevin Garnett from the opening tip and it just never stopped.  Several other Blazers also gave and withstood hard fouls when the situation warranted.  The Blazers never stopped getting the ball inside.  The Blazers never stopped rebounding.  The Blazers never let the increasingly physical play take them out of the game.  Portland simply absorbed the contact, dished out some in return so the Celtics would know there were two teams in this contest, and kept executing.  This may not have been a playoff game but this is the kind of thing the Blazers are going to have to do in order to make the playoffs and someday prosper there.  They weren't over the top or stupid, they just stood up to the bully and moved on.  Bravo.

There were a couple of huge keys to this game.  Rebounding was the first.  The Blazers pasted 13 offensive boards on one of the best rebounding teams in the league in a game that was dominated by halfcourt play.  Portland won the overall rebounding battle 44-29.  Portland also mastered points in the paint.  The Blazers made the Celtics' relative weakness at interior defense (relative being an important term when applying that sentence to the best defensive team in the league) glaringly obvious.  The Blazers owned the paint on both ends throughout the game and that's what led to the victory.

The interior domination made up for a night when the Blazers committed a lot of silly turnovers and ran a 10-shot deficit at the free throw line.  It also made up for the Blazers' inability to defend Boston's guards without Brandon Roy in the lineup.  Granted, the Blazers may not have been able to defend Boston's guards with Brandon in the lineup but at least he has legitimate height.  Portland really suffers against wing players--Paul Pierce being Exhibit A in this game--when anybody but Brandon is on the floor.  The blessing of Pope Sixtus V and the machinations of Duke of Medina Sidonia combined couldn't get the original Spanish Armada to defend right and for much of this game our duo suffered the same fate.  A timely move by Coach McMillan to put Travis Outlaw on Pierce stopped the leak enough for the Blazers to regain their footing, but it was a near thing.

Speaking of, in the absence of Brandon Roy this was easily the most creative job of substituting we've seen out of the coaching staff in...well...maybe ever.  We saw Jerryd Bayless.  We saw Oden and Przybilla playing together.  We even got some semi-significant Ike Diogu minutes.  Most of the moves worked.  The worst at least resulted in Portland treading water.  The best looked inspired.  (The Oden-plus-Przybilla move worked particularly well for the short stretch it was used.)   Bravo also to Nate and his staff for their part in manufacturing this win.

In games as intense as this the officiating is always magnified.  Truly, it looked like the refs had a hard time out there.  To their credit they did keep the game under control.  However there were plenty of blown calls either way.  I did not count to see if they evened out but among them were missed out of bounds possessions, blown travelling calls, missed push-offs, and of course the infamous 6-men-on-the-court bucket at the end of the first half.  For those who missed it (just watch ESPN tonight) Portland fielded six men on their last offensive play of the second period.  I will be eagerly awaiting Ben's report to see if he can wheedle out of the coaching staff the name of the culprit.  The Blazers scored on the play, hammering down a Travis Outlaw dunk off of a pass from Greg Oden as the weak-side Boston defenders pointed out the error instead of defending.  The officials completely missed it until afterwards.  They ended up allowing the bucket then awarding the Celtics a technical shot (which they hit) and the ball for the final shot (which they missed).  If you are a Boston fan, I feel for you.  The call was obviously blown.  Those points also could have affected how the final minutes of the game played out.  My sympathy is only dimmed somewhat by the Boston announcing crew (which we got on League Pass) mentioning it approximately every 30 seconds or so in the second half.

The play could have been handled a couple ways.  First they could have acknowledged the error, disallowed the basket, awarded Boston a foul shot, and then given the ball back to the Blazers.  This would have been the most correct option in my view.  The second option was to do what they did, which was to play on.  Disallowing the basket after the fact without a replay of those final seconds was NOT an option, however.  If the basket had been disallowed then the Blazers would have gotten the ball back, which was not the case in the game.  To take away the points retroactively without giving the Blazers another chance to score while Boston did get that extra chance to score would have been a quadruple penalty:  loss of the bucket, technical free throw for Boston, loss of the possession for the Blazers, a gained possession for the Celtics.  That's far more than the rules call for in such a situation.  Replay or play on were the only options.  As soon as you gave the ball to Boston to end the half you made your choice.

This is a key thing to remember about this call, even as a Celtics fan.  Boston gets a free throw no matter how you resolve the situation, which the Celtics got and made.  Had the bucket been disallowed the Blazers would have gotten another chance to run the play after Boston had made that free throw.  The Blazers might have scored again, rendering the outcome the same.  The Blazers might have scored a three, making the outcome worse.  The Blazers might have missed.  We don't know what would have happened.  Therefore to say for sure that this play turned the game is disingenuous.  It didn't help, of course, but in reality the Celtics lost because they got beat too many times to the ball and got pounded in the paint.  The announcers were right to point out the play, to question how it was handled even.  The over-emphasis on that one play was camouflage, however, and basically incorrect.  If the team itself let the resolution of that matter affect them enough that they lost the game that's on them.  I don't think they did, but that's pretty much the end of the story.

Individual Observations

Huge props to Lamarcus Aldridge.  Not only did he score 20 plus 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, and 2 blocks (to Garnett's 17, 8, 2, 1, and 0) he led the physical charge against the Celtics all night.  The double-technical late in the game epitomized that.  Garnett threw a cheap elbow after the possession was complete, Aldridge smacked the back of his head.  Points off for being obvious about it, but high marks for not taking crap.  Lamarcus had a scowl on when facing Garnett most of the night.  That was appropriate and appreciated.

This was flat-out the best game for Greg Oden as a professional.  He did almost everything out there.  13 points, 11 rebounds, 3 steals, and 3 assists barely tell the story.  He was active, mobile, intense, energized, aggressive, and just owned the paint.  His offensive moves against Kendrick Perkins and Glen Davis looked professional and were effective as heck.  He just backed them down and baby-hooked them.  They couldn't keep him out of the lane from the low post.  He did a great job rotating on defense.  As soon as a shot went up he boxed out somebody and most of the time he ended up with the rebound.  His passing skills were also on full display and frankly they make me drool a puddle you could backstroke in.  Greg really took responsibility for this game and stepped up in Brandon's absence.  We actually looked like less of a team when he wasn't on the floor.  Stellar job.

Steve Blake, as he so often does, kept our heads above water when we struggled during the first half.  He shot 8-12, 5-7 from the three-point arc, and scored a Blazer-high 21 points.  Steve has a pattern.  He'll score the heck out of the ball when others are missing early and then fade into the background as people find their footing unless and until you need a three-point shot again late in the game.  There are worse patterns for a point guard than that.

Rudy Fernandez got the start in place of Brandon Roy but didn't have a strong game.  He missed a couple of open shots early and never got on track.  He also had defensive trouble in the first half, though he made up for it with energy in the second half to even out the night.  This was a night for big men anyway, so it didn't hurt us much.  2-7 shooting, 1-5 on threes, 8 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and a steal in 32 minutes.

Nicolas Batum, on the other hand, had an excellent defensive night.  His effort was top notch.  In 17 minutes he grabbed 7 rebounds and a steal plus he had 2 blocks, one spectacular Michael Cooper-like trailing block on the break.  This was one of Nicolas' better games too, despite not hitting either of his 2 shots.  I watched this game with a friend and I was explaining to him why Nic is probably our small forward of the future.

Travis Outlaw was the big man off the bench with 17 points in 31 minutes on 7-14 shooting.  He had a couple of awful, bonehead plays in the fourth, one a turnover off the dribble when the Blazers left him bringing the ball out of the backcourt and one horrible shot fired with 12 seconds left on the shot clock and the Blazers in desperate need of a good possession.  But when he drove the baseline and put down that two-handed fingertip dunk over Kevin Garnett to put us up by 4 with 29 seconds left in the game I turned to my friend and said, "THAT is why he stays in the game despite everything else."  As mentioned above, Travis was also a good stopgap against the Paul Pierce onslaught when every guard we threw against him was too small.

Joel Przybilla played 15 minutes, grabbed 6 rebounds, and dunked once.  He did the usual good job filling in while Oden rested.  This was Oden's night so that didn't turn out to be as long as usual.

Jerryd Bayless got 16 minutes of time tonight, trying desperately to tie at least one loop of Roy's sandals.  It's hard to judge people in their early outings like this.  His stats say 0-4 shooting, 2 assists, 1 steal, but also 4 turnovers.  He was fairly active and didn't shrink away from the moment though.  He was obviously out there with units that weren't used to playing together too (evidenced by the fact that he, himself was out there!)  Not a great night but a good attempt is probably the best way to put it.

Sergio Rodriguez also gave it a game run in 9 minutes but he was just overmatched in height and couldn't defend.  Because of Rudy's rotation promotion Sergio was out there with Bayless instead of his Spanish cohort.  That made a difference.  Also, as with Przybilla and Oden, this was really Blake's night.

Ike Diogu got 4 points in 6 minutes tonight.  He's looking a little more spry than he was earlier in the season.  It would be a stretch to write his name into the rotation with pen but he got a nice round of applause when leaving the game for his effort tonight.

Final Thoughts

It's good to exit the year with a nice win and a little respect.  Let's hope the Blazers remember the lessons learned from this Boston series.  Even better, now winning 1 of the next 3 puts us at .500 for the final, final stretch of the brutal early season schedule.  Then we can put that phrase to bed once and for all and translate all of these bumps and bruises acquired against elite teams into solid victories against slightly less elite teams.

Listen to Celtics fans rage at officials and maybe give a tiny amount of grudging respect to the Blazers at CelticsBlog.  (Please don't troll.)

Check out the Jersey Contest scores from this game and the monthly scoreboard here.  The winner of this month's jersey will be named in the next post!

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

 

 

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GO for Player of the WEEK!

"I just like to smile! Smiling's my favorite. Have you seen these toilets? They're GINORMOUS!" Buddy the "Elf"

by broyposse on Dec 30, 2008 11:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

oh, and FIRST

First to see the Blazer’s 6th Man Killer lineup
First to see GO’s back to back steller game
First to see Rex Roar
First to see KG get La’Slapped

"I just like to smile! Smiling's my favorite. Have you seen these toilets? They're GINORMOUS!" Buddy the "Elf"

by broyposse on Dec 30, 2008 11:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave

after the game, the officials noted that, because they didn’t catch the six players on the floor violation, they were required to allow the basket and give Boston a technical free throw. It was the right call. They messed up by not noticing.

Great game tonight. Feels nice to win.

by Cablinasian on Dec 30, 2008 11:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

disagree

here is the rules on substitutions…
Page 101:

Section III—Substitutions
EXCEPTION: Rule 3—Section I—b.
d. It is the responsibility of each team to have the
proper number of players on the court when play
begins. Failure to do so will result in a technical
foul being assessed and charged to the team.

so far so good, they made the correct call there…

but as far as their ability to wave off the basket, and replay the posession after the technical foul shot, they
could have done so due to

Page 82:

Section III—Elastic Power
The officials shall have the power to make decisions
on any point not specifically covered in the
rules. The Basketball and Referee Operations
Departments will be advised of all such decisions
at the earliest possible moment.

so as I understand it this isn’t covered under the rules so it was at their discretion

ref guide

anyhow I agree with dave when he says

First they could have acknowledged the error, disallowed the basket, awarded Boston a foul shot, and then given the ball back to the Blazers. This would have been the most correct option in my view.

by contemnor on Dec 31, 2008 1:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In Fiba basketball:

After it is discovered that a team is participating with more than five players, it is also discovered that points have been scored or a foul has been committed by player A5 while participating illegally. All such points shall be valid and any foul committed by (or against) that player shall qualify as player fouls.

LINK

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Dec 31, 2008 2:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Art 18/19, Statements 5 & 6

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Dec 31, 2008 3:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave

The link to the jersey contest isn’t working for me. Is anyone else having that difficulty?

by MavetheGreat on Dec 30, 2008 11:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I wish

Around the Horn was airing this week so I could see them talk about the six men thing.

by neutroticblazerfan on Dec 30, 2008 11:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

celtics blog says:

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  1. Lastly, to all that suffered along wtih me listening to the Blazers feed on League Pass, Mike Rice might be the dumbest commentator I’ve ever heard. Can’t wait to have Mike and Tommy back.

i couldnt agree more. Hes embarrasing imo.

"im a buffet of goodness"-Channing Frye

by burritoman on Dec 30, 2008 11:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i love Rice. he's an original. he's a blazer homer...i wouldn't want it any other way..

"I just like to smile! Smiling's my favorite. Have you seen these toilets? They're GINORMOUS!" Buddy the "Elf"

by broyposse on Dec 30, 2008 11:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

You can tell he loves the Blazers and some of the stuff he says cracks me up.

by sfblazerfan on Dec 30, 2008 11:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

totally agree

he’s absolutely hilarious.

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Dec 31, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree but

BIG win, can’t we talk about that instead?

by neutroticblazerfan on Dec 30, 2008 11:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody

who’s ever listened to two words come out of Tommy Heinsohn’s mouth about the Celtics should EVER complain about another team’s announcer, no matter how biased or annoying that announcer may be. That’s like Paris Hilton calling Britney Spears a messed up bimbo.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 30, 2008 11:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh, I was thinking about that as I was watching tonight

how tough it was going to be to criticize Rice as a card-carrying member of the Tommy Fan Club.

I’ll be honest: I couldn’t stand listening to Rice. That said, that’s the thing about local broadcasters: They’re most likely to play well with their fans and not so well with their opponents’ fans. To some extent, that’s their job. Tough nuggies for the opponents’ fans.

I love Tommy but understand how much he’d drive me crazy if I wasn’t a Celtic fan. So my twisted mind seems to think that gives me a pass of disliking the Rice experience as much as I did tonight. Oh well – the frustration of losing didn’t help.

There’s no question that my track record indicates that losing tends to raise my irritability level about a thousand percent, which means that I’m a lot more likely to get on the announcers’ in any of those games. Happened all the time in last season’s playoffs, as I’d vacillate from one night to the next about the same announcing crews. Ah, the life of the irrationally obsessed fan.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Dec 30, 2008 11:47 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If this is you irritated

I can live with that. :)

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 30, 2008 11:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me, I'm peeved tonight

and sleep isn’t going to come easily. But I’m trying to convince myself that as a fan of the defending champs and a 28-5 team, going into Armageddon mode after every loss might not be the healthiest course of action.

Can’t say I’m entirely succeeding, because I managed after the last two last week, and three in four tries (without Roy playing no less) out west has me as frustrated as I’ve been all season.

But there’s 49 games left to play – before the big ones start…breathe in, SW, breathe deep…

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Dec 30, 2008 11:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I almost like

being the fan of a team that wins around 60% of its games vs. 85%. Then every win is not expected and every loss an upset. This way we can enjoy the wins and rationalize the losses easier. :)

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 31, 2008 12:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

can’t say that I’ve got any desire to change places. :-D

But I did spend some time this weekend thinking about how ticked off I was after the LAL-GSW back-to-back and realizing how quickly I’d practically forgotten what it was like to lose with any regularity. I try to remind myself whenever I can that the last 15 years of Celtics fanhood were humbling enough to keep me eternally grateful for seasons like this, even on the days that aren’t quite as enjoyable.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Dec 31, 2008 12:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Right

enjoy the games, man, wins or losses. I was a fan of the 21 win Blazer team, so I know how to enjoy games regardless of outcome—just focus on the good basketball being played by either team possession by possession, and if it’s a win it’s a bonus. I’m not all about the W.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 31, 2008 12:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I know he’s a homer but I do want some unbiased interp of the game as well while I’m watching. Give us some education and call a bad call a bad call and a good call a good call. I’m generally not impressed with most announcers as they don’t teach as much as I’d like and seem to really dumb it down at times.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 31, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like King´s announcers. All announcers are not the same.

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Dec 31, 2008 2:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the Clippers announcers

"There is a difference between having two guys banging down low and having two guys who can bang down low." - Blazin'

by tominhawaii on Dec 31, 2008 5:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Dave.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 31, 2008 9:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lawler is pretty awesome

It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew

by 22baylor on Dec 31, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you listen to Bill Simmons' last podcast?

The last time he sounded that confident, it was just before the last Super Bowl. If I were a Boston fan, I would never want him to discuss my teams.

"There is a difference between having two guys banging down low and having two guys who can bang down low." - Blazin'

by tominhawaii on Dec 31, 2008 5:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but Paris Hilton would be correct if she called Britney a messed up bimbo

But no one who said Mike Rice is a bad commentator would ever be correct. Mike Rice is awesome!

The question we should really ponder is not why al-Zeidi could be so impolite as to throw his shoes at Bush, but why the dozens of other shoes in the room remained on people's feet, why no foot odor ever purifies the air at a White House press conference, why a man who throws his shoes at our president is more popular than our president himself.

by MT Suit on Dec 31, 2008 12:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heinsohn - ugh

When he was on CBS in the 80s, he did all the Bird/Magic finals – and he was a horrible Celtics homer.

That being said, he played for years with Boston, got his jersey retired, even coached them. Of course he was pulling for them. – Elgin

It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew

by 22baylor on Dec 31, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Rice knows basketball

He’s one of the best basketball analysts in the league. Maybe not the best commentator, but Rice understands the game, more than I can say about the Celtics commentator.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Dec 30, 2008 11:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The C's fans commented on mistakes that Mike made

And they were right. Mike didn’t seem fully prepped on Boston’s stats.

by Timmay! on Dec 30, 2008 11:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love mike rice

and mike barrett. i couldn’t ask for a better announcing team.

"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."

by sergioFTW on Dec 30, 2008 11:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just read the Quick article

on Aldridge. Ok point taken. I will never call Aldridge soft again.

by neutroticblazerfan on Dec 30, 2008 11:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It is getting testy over at

CelticsBlog

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Dec 30, 2008 11:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

In fairness,

this is a tough one to swallow. Finishing a 1-3 road trip by losing to a team without its best player didn’t exactly make my New Year’s celebration. I think there’s a bit of frustration talking.

Not an excuse of any sort – just an observation.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Dec 30, 2008 11:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't hold any venting against you guys

You should have seen it here after the Clipper game.

I think the whole 6-man thing is really a red herring though. While it really was a messed up situation, the game would have played out differently if the score was different from halftime. It’s dangerous to assume the rest of the game would have played out the same (and therefore, the game would be tied late in the fourth, instead of Portland up 1).

Also worth noting that if the refs caught it before the play started, they would have just sent Greg off the floor, and no T would have been called. So that mitigates that thought too, there’s no guarantee of a FT in that situation.

Not aimed directly at you… just noticing it a lot in the venting, and I don’t want to enter their vent thread to comment.

by Timmay! on Dec 30, 2008 11:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The T would have been called

if the ball was in the process of being inbounded and we had 6 people on the floor.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 30, 2008 11:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

you said “before the play started” … gotcha, sorry

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 30, 2008 11:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed in whole, Timmay!, about the issue of

predetermination in sports.

If that extra man play gets ruled differently before the half, the next 23:40 of hoops plays out differently, and who knows where we’re at with 20 seconds to play?

I was annoyed by the ruling, but I’m a lot more angry about some of the things my boys did tonight.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Dec 31, 2008 12:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it has been said

but I will say it again. This was not the best officiated game ever. It was probably an extremely tough game to officiate as both teams were playing physical, but to blame this loss on a weird play that resulted in a 1pt difference is a bit silly as there were examples of bad calls that also resulted in Celtics points.

Pierce clearly travels before being fouled and goes to the line for 2 shots

Tony Allen gets free throws on a play where the lack of continuation is extremely obvious

Crafty Garnett play where he puts his hand on LMAs hip so that he blows the alley oop.

Eddie House does not get called for a flagrant foul on a high foul where he was not going for the foul.

I know these things probably would have been pointed out by Blazers fans if we lost, but I for one have been trying to take Dave’s, head of BE, and not blame the officiating as good teams, like the Celtics, play through these things. I am glad that the Blazers were able to follow the Celtics lead and play through a poorly officiated game.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The fact the fans

(including myself very vocally and VERY near the refs) were constantly in the ref’s ears, probably didn’t help. I would go off at the ref and then watch the replay and go “oh, yeah, that was a good call” but I wouldn’t let up on the refs because they DID make bad calls too. I figured yelling at them might at least help even it out some.

Seriously they have a tough job. All in all I think it balanced out well (without looking at the stats) but there were a lot of calls just going the wrong way on both sides. We didn’t get calls we deserved and neither did Boston, but then again the refs appeared to go blind on other calls.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 31, 2008 9:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ODEN's FIRST CONSECUTIVE DOUBLE DOUBLE

first time he didnt have a good game, and a pathetic game the next. hopefully he stays consistent like this.

I do believe the emotions Oden showed at moments were “fake”. Im not saying that he wasnt happy or excited over his plays but i think the “forced” clapping and all were just to show to people that he actually does care….which he does in reality but he just gave people what they wanted to see from him.

"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "

best one liner i ever heard.

by bowdown on Dec 30, 2008 11:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather that

then nothing at all. Even forced or fake emotions can sometimes make a person alter their attitude.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 30, 2008 11:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Oden was really into the game

He seems like the type of player who loves playing in a big game and being physical. The physicality makes him feel alive.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Dec 30, 2008 11:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

-1

How can you call it fake with all the rabid fans chanting your name…no human, even GO, can not get a little amped up after a great play…

weird and disappointing that you would assume it’s fake.

"I just like to smile! Smiling's my favorite. Have you seen these toilets? They're GINORMOUS!" Buddy the "Elf"

by broyposse on Dec 30, 2008 11:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fake? Come on.

Greg was into this game.

His grin after the 6-man moment was genuine, and priceless.

by Timmay! on Dec 30, 2008 11:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His grin at Travis when he went up and hugged him was REALLY priceless

Greg was just so happy that Outlaw made that play. And he smiled that cute little shy smile of his. What a charming young man! And not the least bit affected. Not the least bit fake. I think he just recently is starting to believe that his play is making a positive difference.

The question we should really ponder is not why al-Zeidi could be so impolite as to throw his shoes at Bush, but why the dozens of other shoes in the room remained on people's feet, why no foot odor ever purifies the air at a White House press conference, why a man who throws his shoes at our president is more popular than our president himself.

by MT Suit on Dec 31, 2008 12:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fake is KG getting on all four and barking like a dog when they are up 18 pts in the 4th quarter

"I just like to smile! Smiling's my favorite. Have you seen these toilets? They're GINORMOUS!" Buddy the "Elf"

by broyposse on Dec 30, 2008 11:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think you are using your quotations properly

you are not trying to say the opposite of fake or forced so they loose any sarcasm they are supposed to imply.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Dec 31, 2008 1:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I daresay

You are 100% wrong. You’re seeing what ya wanna see.

If Oden was gonna fake smiling and emotion, he woulda’ done it weeks ago. He was having a big part in a HUGE game, and helping us win, while the crowd was cheering for him. Who fakes it in that situation? C’mon.

Who says Oden doesn’t care? He cares TOO much, obviously.

I dunno how people see things that are not there.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 31, 2008 6:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't troll people

You really shouldn’t. You wouldn’t like if it happened on here — wait, let me rephrase that. You don’t like it when it does happen here.

That being said, the overreaction to ONE play in the SECOND QUARTER is just RIDICULOUS. That play did not decide the game. The Celtics were up 5 going into halftime and lost by 5.

Besides, the amount of crap players like KG and Pierce get away with is astonishing. Call it, karma.

ROTUNDITYDOTNET

Founder of the "Crash Batumcoot" Movement.

by damir on Dec 30, 2008 11:47 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

Awesome win

I had a lot of fun watching this team gut out a win. I kept wondering when the magical Celtics defense was going to clamp down on the Blazers but it never really did.

I have a quick disagreement with Dave on his recap. I disagree that he played bad defense. I watched him specifically on the defensive end when he was in and I was pleasantly surprised at how much effort he gave. I remember one play in particular where he had to guard Paul Pierce (was it the end of the first half?) and did quite well.

In reality, Rudy’s defense was worse—and he got a pass from Dave. So I just thought I’d point that out.

Overall, though, the team defense was quite good. Steals, deflections, blocked shots, reductions in silly fouls. I was very impressed.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 30, 2008 11:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

On the second paragraph

I should have said “I disagree that Sergio played bad defense.”

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 30, 2008 11:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually indicted both members of the Spanish Armada

both in the general observations and in each individual’s section. I don’t disagree that Sergio gave effort. The results, however, were not positive.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 30, 2008 11:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

should have re-read that before posting.

I was surprised to see you say his defense wasn’t great when I was specifically looking for it and noticing that it was effective during the game. I could easily have missed things though.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 30, 2008 11:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rondo not the easiest guy to guard...

but how come we play up on him from the 3pt line extended??? Watching the Lakers game, they don’t even guard him until he gets close to the FT line…

the kid can’t shoot.

"I just like to smile! Smiling's my favorite. Have you seen these toilets? They're GINORMOUS!" Buddy the "Elf"

by broyposse on Dec 30, 2008 11:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

except for the

3 he buried off that push off

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Dec 31, 2008 1:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His defense was solid

but, well, Sergio will never be able to guard Pierce, just like Bayless and Blake couldn’t guard him either. None of them came out of this game looking like good defenders—but they all put in a solid effort and didn’t make any big mistakes, which was enough. Sergio did have one shining defensive moment though: he was guarding house and made him pick up his dribble, and then pressured him big time, leading HOuse to throw the desperation pass that LMA stole and converted to two ont he other end in the 4th. That was a big momentum play.

"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."

by sergioFTW on Dec 30, 2008 11:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I knew I'd get some specifics from you

I remember that play now that you mention it.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 30, 2008 11:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i wonder what he said after he iced those 2 FTs...

my guess was “i got spanish balls of steel!!!”

"I just like to smile! Smiling's my favorite. Have you seen these toilets? They're GINORMOUS!" Buddy the "Elf"

by broyposse on Dec 30, 2008 11:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that's what I was remembering

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 31, 2008 12:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably. SFTW described it well below

Serge kept right with him and had a hand in his face for the shot. He did a great job of moving on defense and remembering the situation (he knew the clock was winding down and a shot was coming)

by Timmay! on Dec 31, 2008 12:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh yes

the iso with Sergio and Pierce. I know every one of us saw that and were like “oh crap, that’s two points, AT LEAST, for Boston,” but sergio stayed right in his face and made him shoot a contested long two—and missed. and i am sure i wasn’t alone in being pleasantly surprised by that play.

"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."

by sergioFTW on Dec 31, 2008 12:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that was GREAT!

It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew

by 22baylor on Dec 31, 2008 11:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ray Allen got 12 points on 2-11 shooting in 42 minutes

I would take that defense against Allen (their shooting guard) any time we play them. Pierce got 28 but he’s a great player so no real shame in that either.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 30, 2008 11:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Part of that was not us

Boston seemed to ignore Ray, in a similar vein to us ignore LMA or Oden in the post for a quarter at a time.

It didn’t look like we kept Allen from the Ball… Pierce and KG were just dominating it tonight.

by Timmay! on Dec 30, 2008 11:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i love it how they gave House the shot instead of Pierce or Allen on the last play

"I just like to smile! Smiling's my favorite. Have you seen these toilets? They're GINORMOUS!" Buddy the "Elf"

by broyposse on Dec 30, 2008 11:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

Fixed. Just typed the same number twice by mistake.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 31, 2008 12:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave

you got to give Sergio props for those two free-throws. He was coming in cold off the bench in a game where he probably felt unjuslty benched, and rightly had no expectation that he’d be asked to make the two most crucial FTs of the game. And he nailed them both. Blake showed us earlier this season that those aren’t gimmes and Sergio should get some recognition for having some ice in his veins there.

"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."

by sergioFTW on Dec 31, 2008 12:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

props for that.

I told my bro “Okay, so he’s going to miss the first and hit the second” and lo and behold he exceeded my modest expectations.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 31, 2008 12:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sergio was a man at the line for those shots...

with Pierce trying to psych him out before the first shot, THEN Pierce making sweet hand love to the ball for about 5 minutes (seemingly), gouging it, sweating on it, or whatever the heck he was doing, after Sergio sank the first.

Pierce tried all his foul shot mojo on Sergio, and Sergio just laughed in his face.

Good night, Blazer fans, whereEVER you may be.... DAA-daddle-a-DA-da-da-DA-da-da-DAA

by jerome glide porterworth on Dec 31, 2008 9:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave

I don’t want to make you feel like Nate and have to weather a storm from Sergio fans if you criticize him…I’m not one of “those guys” … this just happened to be a particular mental note I had so it took me by surprise that you saw it differently.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 31, 2008 12:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not at all!

Sometimes I miss things too. As I said above, I wasn’t faulting Sergios effort. He provided the same level of that as he has all year, which has been good. However the reality of it was simple. With Sergio and Bayless out there with the second unit somebody had to watch Paul Pierce. Sergio couldn’t do it no matter what he tried. Bayless couldn’t either. That’s why neither one of them got that assignment for long. This wasn’t the game for them and a big reason was defensive matchups. They just weren’t effective against the bigger Celtics wings.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 31, 2008 12:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Pierce is a small forward, in reality, and having a point guard check him is going to cause problems. Boston definitely ran a few plays specifically to get Blake on him and he backed Blake down and scored. I think it showed Boston’s maturity that they utilized that play on more than one occasion.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 31, 2008 12:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

precisely

When pierce saw he had any of those 3 on him he’d just start backing them down to get a close turn around jumpshot. single coverage from those three could never stop pierce.

"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."

by sergioFTW on Dec 31, 2008 12:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Reviewing the game film now

Rudy did have a good defensive stretch in the 2nd quarter. At the 7:48 mark until the 6:55 mark of the 2nd, I thought Rudy had an inspired series of defensive plays and a couple key rebounds.

I think often defensive effort is measured by consistency…all players are capable of individual good defensive plays, but it takes a great defensive player to consistently make them.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on Dec 31, 2008 12:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You are missing the switching

Boston’s main play for Pierce is they have Rondo set a pick for him and force a switch, then he works his magic on the small guy. It’s like their main play. None of Blake, Sergio or Bayless ever started out guarding Pierce.

by danielfarrell on Dec 31, 2008 6:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

Part of Portland’s defense on a consistent basis this year has been switching. That’s what they do. Therefore if you can’t defend on people you’re switched to in the Portland scheme you can’t defend. Again, we’re not talking about theoretical defense or what should have happened, we’re talking about actual results on the floor last night.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 31, 2008 10:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Was just pointing out that Boston does this all the time

I agree… I was just trying to point out that Boston does the picks to get a switch for Pierce all the time. They always try to get the switch to have a small player on Pierce and when it’s successful he can generally score over top of them. It’s their bread and butter way to setup Pierce.

by danielfarrell on Dec 31, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am so proud of our guys!

I found myself saying that about midway through the 4th qtr with the game still in question. I just loved the effort and toughness. KG showed his colors (still can’t wrap my head around any blazersedge members around here defending that guy for any reason) and we showed ours.

question though, why didn’t the celtics just give PP the ball every time down and wait for the refs to bail him out like they did 48 consecutive times before? it seems like he got free throws EVERY time down. why would you every go away from that cash cow? If broy ever gets that much respect ON THE ROAD we will be unstoppable.

The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave

by chrischa on Dec 31, 2008 12:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

my sweet wife

was fighting back tears of joy at the end of the game.

For a regular season game, it was big. – Elgin

It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew

by 22baylor on Dec 31, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

PS

I told her if she cried, I would too. That stopped her! – Elgin

It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew

by 22baylor on Dec 31, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave you did a great job explaining the should-of, could-of, would-of aspect of the six men on the floor

I also appreciate that if the situation was reversed you wouldn’t blame us losing the game on one blown call.

I am a Raider’s fan and it reminds me of the Tuck Rule Play on a much, much smaller scale. I feel like this is the first time I have been on the fortunate end of such a obviously bad call.

I kind of like it.

This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Dec 31, 2008 12:20 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

yep

if anyone brings that play up to me, i’ll bring up how Garnett absolutely hacked Travis on his 4th quarter dunk and didn’t get called. That’s 1 point we should have got, which evens it right out. And that’s not mentioning Bostons 31 free-throws . . .

"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."

by sergioFTW on Dec 31, 2008 12:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

word, that was such an awesome dunk tho

This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Dec 31, 2008 12:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There were missed calls both ways, but

having six players on the court isn’t something you see every night. It all comes out in the wash, but I loved seeing Nate and Greg grin on the sidelines after the technical was called.

by sfblazerfan on Dec 31, 2008 12:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes - Tuck rule! I was saying that last night...

Always nice to give Boston back some tuck rule. Awesome.

Although for this to be like the actual “Tuck Rule” game, it would have to take place in Game 7 of the playoffs, and we would have had to have hit a 3-pointer, plus a foul shot, with 6 guys on the floor. THEN, the refs would give Boston a single measly FT.

Good night, Blazer fans, whereEVER you may be.... DAA-daddle-a-DA-da-da-DA-da-da-DAA

by jerome glide porterworth on Dec 31, 2008 9:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As a sometime critic of Nate

I have to tip my hat to him tonight. Especially in the second half. He had good flow with the substitutions and you felt his commitment to the guys he had to work with. Excellent job tonight Portland!

by Blazin' on Dec 31, 2008 12:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oden's Intensity

I’d always remember this game even if we had lost, for the intensity of Greg’s play. It was the first time he really convinced me that he will become a dominant player, as we have hoped and expected. He seemed to shed his chains tonight, whether they were a fear of failure, the need to live up to expectations, or just the constant awareness that his every motion and emotion were being scrutinized and judged. He let it all go and just played the game. He didn’t rush anything, but anticipated where he wanted to be and then moved across the floor quicker than previous games. He seemed to know exactly what he wanted to do at all times which led to quality rebounds, tap outs, and assists. We also saw a variety of good offensive moves that included hook shoots, a bank shot, and a jump shot – that were taken in smooth rhythm rather than being awkwardly forced. And we saw the toughness and intensity of someone that deserved to start the game and was needed at the finish.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 31, 2008 1:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sergio... 9 minutes? C´mon! WTF

Sergio SHOULD leave Blazers and come back to Europe or another NBA team.

by makelele on Dec 31, 2008 1:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sergio was playing when it really mattered

and knocked down big free throws.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Dec 31, 2008 2:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

Blake was flat out awful in this game, I can’t believe Sergio only played 9 minutes.

Winning the game is irrelevant, let’s all focus on Sergio! Why does everyone in the entire world conspire against perhaps the greatest PG to ever play?!

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 31, 2008 6:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Finally, a voice of reason - the only answer to this problem...

is to trade every non-Sergio player (NSP’s I like to call them) to fund our soon-to-be-created army of Sergio…. wait for it…. CLONES!

Paul Allen, stop using your $$ to send light planes into orbit and GET THIS DONE!

This plan can only be stopped by one Nathaniel McMillan, and his irrational hatred of Sergio, as evidenced by his prejudicial NSP favoritism.

He disgusts me, and I hate his face.

PS: to show fairness, we will also clone Rudy.

Good night, Blazer fans, whereEVER you may be.... DAA-daddle-a-DA-da-da-DA-da-da-DAA

by jerome glide porterworth on Dec 31, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i don't think he was suggesting Sergio get Blake's minutes

Sergio deserved Bayless’ minutes. Bayless played poorly by any standard and when Blake was in the game, Bayless was running point for most of it, which made even less sense than playing Bayless instead of Sergio. Persoanlly, I can let it go, we’ll see what happens in the next games.

"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."

by sergioFTW on Dec 31, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably because I don´t know much about basketball but i don´t understand that "Rudy and Sergio played bad defense".

The team played the best defense game of the year, the guards only allowed 3-14 three pointers (three pointers had been killing us) and the 3 Boston SG combined went 2-18FG, 9/9FT, 1 ass, 1 steal, 3 reb, 3 TO in 70 min. So Rudy, our SG, played bad defense? I had liked a better offense by Rudy, but much better defense!? Really? Is this the game to make this kind of statement?

I watched the game and the only serious repeated defensive mistakes I saw was the mistmach with Pierce, not involving Rudy (more than anyone Blake, Sergio two times I think, one of them forcing Pierce to miss a shot) and allowing KG to shoot again and again from the same hot spot, and the rest was very good players doing their stuff against tough opposition.

I haven´t had a hard time trying to keep my Spanish biased mind in control, but I need to understand how people support some kind of statements when everithing seems to say the opposite.

I know a good reply if a fellow Spanish says “We won without Roy (what it´s true), I was right, we moved the ball instead of playing isos for Roy and we played better perimeter defense without Roy.” The surprise comes when I find that my fellow Spanish countryman doesn´t seem much more biased than you, Dave. With love.

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Dec 31, 2008 3:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

And kudos for Nate because he deserved this win.

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Dec 31, 2008 3:51 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

YOu wouldn't know it

with the blazer “fans” behind me ripping on him and every other blazer player.

Nate does do things I disagree with, but on the other hand… he’s pulled this team together and he’s milked them for everything they have. I have RARELY seen this team under perform. People knock Nate because the blazers don’t constantly OVER perform, and yet we ARE over performing when you look at how many errors take place out there.

I was thinking about this the other day. The blazers really shouldn’t win as many as they do. They don’t play flawless balls, and yet they win DESPITE those glaring flaws out there. If your players are flawed, but they keep playing to their potential and you keep winning… might want to consider the fact that the coach knows more than you and is getting wins.

Take a look around the league at the “potential” talent out there. Do any of you see any other coaches getting the same mileage? We’re not the only young talented team, but we are the only young talented team that’s winning and doing it rather consistently. There’s a reason for that, despite things that may drive us nuts. The reason is Nate.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 31, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

great work amlmart1

you are good at that! – Elgin

It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew

by 22baylor on Dec 31, 2008 11:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah

I agree. I do appreciate seeing awesome unique blazer art. You should like ebay this stuff sometime.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya had the Boston feed, Dave?

I didn’t realize different League Pass subscribers get different feeds, let alone from two subscribers to DirecTV (I believe you get your TV from them like I do). I had the home team feed.

Mike and Mike are obvious homers, but at least Rice watches a ton of basketball and reads every article. He knows who players are. Tommy is a living cartoon of horrible announcing with obvious lack of research or knowledge of who the hell this other team playing his Celtics are.

Man, what a win. That 6 man play was hilarious, and Greg’s sheepish grin and Nate’s smiling scowl and “come here” gesture after the play made me giggle. Thank goodness the refs didn’t notice till it was too late.

I love Oden’s passing. He is YEARS beyond where he should be with his team-play, and ahead of his peers such as Howard and Bynum by far. He is looking more and more spry and energetic with each game, and you could see it even during his horrible foul problem games. He just might be something in this league, and I’ll be the first to predict it! Another great find in the draft by Kevin Pritchard!

Soooooo glad LMA took his wilty start to the game and turned it around. How many times have we seen the opposite, him start strong and fade as Roy took over? He has been much more aggressive the last few weeks, and looked really good. His FT shooting has been hot lately as well, raising it back to his normal 75% after being in the 60’s for the first part of the season.

I also love it when LMA is out pressing the ball, set free to create havoc. Once Oden can cover more ground again, having Joel and Greg as anchors will allow LMA to run around and use his length and energy to get even more steals and deflections than he has been getting.

Fun game to watch. Not the end of the world if we lost considering it IS Boston and Roy is out, but a huge win to steal away.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 31, 2008 6:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Great Win...

Without Brandon. Let’s not forget Martel’s absnence and his goal of being a defensive stopper this year.

by dlsfan on Dec 31, 2008 7:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I hope that's not the last time we see G.O. and Joel

On the floor at the same time. Not to mention, L.A. at the 3 works against a lot of teams in the west. Funny what you can learn when your star player, who dominates the ball so much takes a night off. Graet job on this one by Nate and his crew!

2-4 the who

by 24thewho on Dec 31, 2008 7:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I bet it was a trial run

Since backup power forward is a bit of a question mark, I wonder if Nate is thinking about giving some of those minutes to Joel, in a twin-towers setup. It would probably depend on the athleticism of the opponents’ power forwards.

by Kaboomm on Dec 31, 2008 9:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave, how do you think the Blazers will do in a series

come playoff time?

I’ve been wondering about this for a while. Nate seems to prepare them well and they seem to respond to coaching/tactics/adjustments, etc.

by rburg on Dec 31, 2008 9:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Will depend entirely on who they play

But in general it will be hard for the Blazers because they will be going up against an experience, playoff-tested team unless something really odd happens. So they’ll start at a disadvantage. Nothing is impossible, though, but it’ll be hard for the Blazers to win a series and extremely, extremely difficult for the Blazers to win more than that. Eventually the odds catch up with you.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 31, 2008 10:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I think the Blazers are likely to lose to LA or San Antonio. New teams tend to not have a gut feeling for how tough top teams have to be to win in the playoffs. Dallas and Phoenix would also be very difficult opponents because of individuals with finals experience.

Still, I think they should have a shot in the first round, depending on the opponent. Winning one playoff series would be huge for the future. Even getting into a good, close dogfight would be excellent experience.

by Kaboomm on Dec 31, 2008 2:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome game

Loud… ooooohhh so loud.

“Boston Sucks!”

MWHAHAHAHAHA

I had two older gentleman next to me that were rather reserved to start the game. By the end they were bouncing to the tunes and shouting like crazy! Loved it!

Impromptu chanting in the tunnels and while waiting for the Max.

Razzing of the Celtics fans. Not as cool, but not out of control. I’ve been on the other side of that and it’s not a pleasant experience. Mob mentality is dangerous and some dumbbums should get a nice solid boot to the head. Still… this was OUR house tonight. I may logically go “that’s bad” but internally I’m going “get the @#$% out of our house with those team colors!”

I commented at half time that “we’re totally going to lose this game, but you know what? I don’t care! This is a fun game and they’re playing with BALLS!!!”

My favorite play of the game was Pryz dunking and the hard foul and just totally going into it to score and shoot the plus 1.

I was mocking the Celtics as loudly as I could. Garnett gave me a look for a bit and multiple times, but I’m not sure he was actually looking at me, although I don’t know anyone in my section being louder. He could have just been staring off in space. Here’s hoping I got in that big babies head. I have NO respect for that guy after the last boston game. I defend passion, but that man has no class.

Pierce chewing out blake at the free throw line… how is that NOT a technical when he’s holding up the play? Big Baby isn’t the ONLY guy on that team that deserves to be called big baby.

The celtics came into the game looking strong, professional, fierce. When the game started, the fans didn’t care. I was definitely not the only one razzing those guys.

The fans showed up and the blazers showed up and I can’t believe my brother forgot about this game and didn’t meet me at the Rose Garden to get his ticket. I ended up selling it to those guys out front and they ended up NOT selling it as the seat next to us was empty.

The game went by so quickly. The half was over and my response was “really? Already?”

Lastly… these sites are soooo clunky for posting via my iphone. I was attempting to post in the game day thread that Roy was out and Rudy was in. by the time I managed to get the post up… I think it’d already been announced a couple of times in the thread. Would be nice if SB would allow mobile posting as at least THAT method is less clunky and less likely to crash my phone browser.

The glow from that win lasted many a hour last night. God it felt good.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 31, 2008 9:56 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

the combination of the Blazers' win

and the Ducks win made for a very exciting sports evening.

Better go check that Beaver score – Elgin

It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew

by 22baylor on Dec 31, 2008 12:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dave

What do you think the Blazer’s record would be if they didn’t lose any more games this season?

by tominhawaii on Dec 31, 2008 1:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dave

I’d like to extend an invitation to you to watch a game from my abode. I live 5 minutes from downtown (just over the Fremont in NE), my house is cozy, I’ve got a big couch and a bigger TV (HD, of course). I even have the DVR so we can pause and rewind for closer review.

Don’t be getting the wrong idea either, I have a wife and a kid (and one on the way) so you don’t need to worry about this being “that” type of invitation or anything. Oh, and we’re clean, neat-freakish types, so you wouldn’t walk into a house of horrors or anything, it’s really comfortable, I swear.

Reading about how you’re breaking down players and talking about the teams’ future with your friend I couldn’t help but feel somewhat envious. My poor wife is generally the only person I actually watch games with… and honestly, she just doesn’t care THAT much, bless her heart.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jan 1, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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