The Sched Ahead Weekly Update
OK, I've got this set up so it's easy to paste in, so hopefully, I can do this regularly without much trouble.
SUMMARY INFO
Four categories of games:
- Home games against sub .500 teams.
- Home games against winning teams (I'm including teams right at .500 in this category).
- Road games at losing teams.
- Road games at winning teams.
A general formula success in the NBA is to win almost all of Cat 1, a majority of Cat 2 and Cat 3, and win some in Cat 4. The contenders may win more than half of their Cat 4 games.
Discussed further here (by ULC) and here. Last Week's Status.
COMMENTS ON THE WEEK
Since last week, Portland lost one Cat 4 in Denver, went 1-1 in Cat 2, and won a Cat 1 game. Lost a little ground, but not too bad.
Dallas improved their position by going 1-1 in Cat 4 games and winning two games (one home, one away) against weak opposition.
Denver improved their position by splitting with us and winning two (one home, one away) against losing teams.
Houston won a Cat 4 at NJ, but lost two of them at Cleveland and N.O., then won a Cat 2 at home against Utah. A decent showing, basically treading water compared to their position last week.
L.A. went 4-0, winning one from every category (including at home against Boston. They are rolling, and again look dominant after getting swept in Florida the week before.
N.O. slipped a little, 0-1 on Cat 4, 1-0 on Cat 3, and 1-1 on Cat 2. They rescued a really bad week with a home win against Houston and a road win at Indiana. Not very good but not horrible.
Phoenix played only one game, a loss at home to San Antonio. In a week where you only play one, you really want a win, especially if it is at home. This week hurt them -- and they weren't exactly in a great position anyway.
The Spurs went 4-0, three home wins against bottom feeders (two of them pretty tough wins), and the nice win at Phoenix. They are showing good form earlier than usual this year. I don't think the DM will ever let these guys be slain.
Utah lost at Milwaukie and Houston, and beat Dallas at home. As long as they can defend their home court, they'll stay in the hunt, but they've got an awful lot of tough home games ahead, and they haven't been impressive on the road, even against bad teams. They really need to start beating teams like Milwaukie on the road.
Winners this week: Dallas, Denver, L.A., S.A.
Treading water: Houston.
Hurt themselves: Phoenix, Utah, Portland, N.O.
The tables:
Cat 4
|
W |
L |
Played |
Left |
|
|
Portland |
3 |
8 |
11 |
11 |
|
Dallas |
3 |
4 |
7 |
16 |
|
Denver |
3 |
6 |
9 |
13 |
|
Houston |
5 |
6 |
11 |
11 |
|
L.A. |
5 |
2 |
7 |
14 |
|
N.O. |
2 |
4 |
6 |
16 |
|
Phoenix |
2 |
5 |
7 |
14 |
|
S.A. |
3 |
4 |
7 |
14 |
|
Utah |
2 |
5 |
7 |
15 |
Houston has now played as many in this category as we have, and Denver is close. The others have a lot more hard games ahead.
Cat 3
|
W |
L |
Played |
Left |
|
|
Portland |
5 |
1 |
6 |
13 |
|
Dallas |
7 |
2 |
9 |
9 |
|
Denver |
6 |
1 |
7 |
12 |
|
Houston |
5 |
2 |
7 |
12 |
|
L.A. |
4 |
2 |
6 |
14 |
|
N.O. |
6 |
1 |
7 |
12 |
|
Phoenix |
5 |
1 |
6 |
14 |
|
S.A. |
5 |
1 |
6 |
14 |
|
Utah |
5 |
5 |
10 |
9 |
Everyone but Utah is still taking care of business on the road against losing teams.
Cat 2
|
W |
L |
Played |
Left |
|
|
Portland |
6 |
2 |
8 |
14 |
|
Dallas |
2 |
6 |
8 |
13 |
|
Denver |
3 |
4 |
7 |
15 |
|
Houston |
5 |
2 |
7 |
15 |
|
L.A. |
7 |
1 |
8 |
14 |
|
N.O. |
6 |
3 |
9 |
13 |
|
Phoenix |
6 |
6 |
12 |
10 |
|
S.A. |
3 |
5 |
8 |
14 |
|
Utah |
5 |
3 |
8 |
13 |
Against good teams at home, we're still one of the best, despite our loss to Denver Dallas. As long as we keep winning 75% or better of our games in this category, we'll stay in the hunt. Of the very best teams, though, the only one we've played in Portland is Orlando. A win against Boston would be very nice, but a win against N.O. is probably more useful in the playoff battle. If I could only have one, I'd take one over the Hornets.
Cat 1
|
W |
L |
Played |
Left |
|
|
Portland |
5 |
1 |
6 |
13 |
|
Dallas |
6 |
0 |
6 |
14 |
|
Denver |
8 |
0 |
8 |
11 |
|
Houston |
5 |
1 |
6 |
13 |
|
L.A. |
9 |
0 |
9 |
10 |
|
N.O. |
4 |
1 |
5 |
14 |
|
Phoenix |
3 |
0 |
3 |
16 |
|
S.A. |
9 |
0 |
9 |
10 |
|
Utah |
6 |
1 |
7 |
13 |
The Spurs have moved up in the standings this week, but primarily because they got to beat up on bottom feeders at home. Phoenix has more of these games left than anyone, which is the real bright spot in their schedule ahead -- lots and lots of should-win games, which will keep them in the hunt.
All Home Games
|
W |
L |
Played |
Left |
|
|
Portland |
11 |
3 |
14 |
27 |
|
Dallas |
8 |
6 |
14 |
27 |
|
Denver |
11 |
4 |
15 |
26 |
|
Houston |
10 |
3 |
13 |
28 |
|
L.A. |
16 |
1 |
17 |
24 |
|
N.O. |
10 |
4 |
14 |
27 |
|
Phoenix |
9 |
6 |
15 |
26 |
|
S.A. |
12 |
5 |
17 |
24 |
|
Utah |
11 |
4 |
15 |
26 |
The road/home disparity is clearing, the only teams with significantly fewer home games remaining are L.A. (irrelevant, we aren't catching them) and S.A. (we probably don't catch them, either, barring injury). Our home record is better than everyone except L.A. If that is still the case after our next three home games, I think you can book it that we're in the playoffs.
All Away Games
|
W |
L |
Played |
Left |
|
|
Portland |
8 |
9 |
17 |
24 |
|
Dallas |
10 |
6 |
16 |
25 |
|
Denver |
9 |
7 |
16 |
25 |
|
Houston |
10 |
8 |
18 |
23 |
|
L.A. |
9 |
4 |
13 |
28 |
|
N.O. |
8 |
5 |
13 |
28 |
|
Phoenix |
7 |
6 |
13 |
28 |
|
S.A. |
8 |
5 |
13 |
28 |
|
Utah |
7 |
10 |
17 |
24 |
Houston has now played more road games than we have, Utah the same number. L.A., N.O., Phoenix, and S.A. still lag behind by a ways, which could cost them all a game or two.
All Games Against Winning Teams
|
W |
L |
Played |
Left |
|
|
Portland |
9 |
10 |
19 |
25 |
|
Dallas |
5 |
10 |
15 |
29 |
|
Denver |
6 |
10 |
16 |
28 |
|
Houston |
10 |
8 |
18 |
26 |
|
L.A. |
12 |
3 |
15 |
28 |
|
N.O. |
8 |
7 |
15 |
29 |
|
Phoenix |
8 |
11 |
19 |
24 |
|
S.A. |
6 |
9 |
15 |
28 |
|
Utah |
7 |
8 |
15 |
28 |
Against winning teams, only L.A., Houston, and N.O. have a better overall record than we do.
All Games Against Losing Teams
|
W |
L |
Played |
Left |
|
|
Portland |
10 |
2 |
12 |
26 |
|
Dallas |
13 |
2 |
15 |
23 |
|
Denver |
14 |
1 |
15 |
23 |
|
Houston |
10 |
3 |
13 |
25 |
|
L.A. |
13 |
2 |
15 |
24 |
|
N.O. |
10 |
2 |
12 |
26 |
|
Phoenix |
8 |
1 |
9 |
30 |
|
S.A. |
14 |
1 |
15 |
24 |
|
Utah |
11 |
6 |
17 |
22 |
Against losing teams, San Antonio, Denver, Phoenix, L.A., and Dallas have better records, N.O. is the same.
Back to Back Games
|
Total |
Road |
Cat4 |
Cat3 |
Cat2 |
Cat1 |
|
|
Portland |
8 |
8 |
5 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
|
Dallas |
11 |
6 |
4 |
2 |
2 |
3 |
|
Denver |
13 |
8 |
6 |
2 |
3 |
2 |
|
Houston |
10 |
8 |
4 |
4 |
1 |
1 |
|
L.A. |
12 |
11 |
7 |
4 |
0 |
1 |
|
N.O. |
12 |
10 |
6 |
4 |
2 |
0 |
|
Phoenix |
12 |
10 |
3 |
7 |
0 |
2 |
|
S.A. |
11 |
6 |
2 |
4 |
2 |
3 |
|
Utah |
13 |
11 |
9 |
2 |
0 |
2 |
We have the least remaining back to back games, but all of ours finish with a road game. Utah ties Denver for the most remaining, and 9 of theirs finish on the road at winning teams. They had one game like that this week, and lost it.
That's the Boring Stuff
Here's the only thing most of you really cared about: the jscot Stupid Sched Projections. How these work, and why they are stupid, is explained in last week's post. Do not blame me. This is only the numbers. It isn't the spreadsheet's fault, either, the spreadsheet is only doing what it is told to do. Remember that if NJ loses another game, everything changes drastically, which shows just how stupid this is.
Playoff seedings if everyone keeps winning in every category at exactly the same rate for the rest of the season, and if no .500 or better team turns into a losing team, or vice versa (is that enough disclaimers)?
- L.A. -- 66.6 wins. For those of you into a particular scheme of interpretation of Biblical prophecy, remove the decimal and you have the number of Antichrist. Take that however you will.
- Houston -- 55.1 wins. Treading water, but their competitors for #2 slipped.
- Portland -- 54.2 wins. If we're still this high next week, it means we won 2 of the 3 killers this week. If we do that, the Negative Nancy posters around here will be sentenced to two weeks as fans of OKC.
- N.O. -- 53.5 wins. They've still played four games fewer than we have, so a mediocre week hurts them percentage wise slightly more than it hurts us. We can help them have a mediocre week this week by beating them on Friday, and sending them on to Denver on Saturday.
- S.A. -- 52.9 wins. The spreadsheet is not as impressed as the standings with them beating bad teams in San Antonio, but they moved up some.
- Phoenix -- 52.7 wins. The spreadsheet still thinks they will win all of their Cat 1 games, based on a 3-0 record so far. The spreadsheet is probably wrong.
- Denver -- 52.0 wins. It's nice that at least one team doesn't have to figure out how to come up with that fractional win thing.
- Dallas -- 49.1 wins. Their win at Portland is the main factor in their improvement.
- Utah -- 46.1 wins. Their loss at Milwaukie is the main factor in their decline, though if they had pulled out the win at Houston, it would have more than cancelled out the Milwaukie loss.
So there it is. Don't bet on these numbers in Vegas. If you really want to bet on them, let me know instead. I am certain some of these will be fairly far out.
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Comments
As nice as it would be to go 2-1
I really think we’ll lose to Boston and at LA. Those teams are championship contenders who have lost a total of nine games combined.
Still, if the Blazers get the New Orleans game, 1-2 is ok.
Great work as usual… I love that Utah has a crazy number of tough back to backs. I know everyone says that they will rebound and come out strong, but even if they go 2-7 in the Cat 4 back-to-backs, they are at 21 losses. Factor in Orlando, LA, Boston, etc, at home and there are probably 22 or 23 losses on their schedule.
To add to those 23ish losses, they haven’t performed great against losing teams on the road, like you said… so you can count on more losses there. I expect Portland to be above 53 wins… and Utah somewhere around 50. Our competition for the Northwest is Denver.
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by Cablinasian on Dec 29, 2008 1:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
LA is coming here
but you might be right, we might still lose both of those games, because they are a couple of great teams. – Elgin
It doesn't mean you should just because you can. Like Abraham and Ishmael, fighting over sand - it doesn't mean you should just because you can. That is a fact of life. - Adrian Belew
by 22baylor on Dec 29, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LA is not coming here...
We play them in LA.
Which is great because we get to beat them in the Rose Garden in March and April, right when we will be needing some guarenteed wins :)
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by twiggs on Dec 29, 2008 7:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no such thing
guarenteed wins
Activate Shavlik Randolph
by appel82 on Jan 1, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Boston
I’m very happy that the Kings got the pleasure of facing a rested Boston coming off it’s first back to back losses. I’m almost positive you could get 10 years in prison for the kind of beating that the Celtics laid on the Kings. Long live the Kings. I’m happy that happened to the Kings because well, we’re next and hopefully the Celtics got all that anger out down in California.
It would be sweet to deal the Celtics their 3rd loss in 4 games, but that defense is just too good. We’ve seen what adequate defense teams can do to our guys. It’s not going to be pretty. I hope the home crowd can give the team enough energy.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on Dec 29, 2008 2:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol, i kant believe im duing this
Against good teams at home, we’re still one of the best, despite our loss to Denver Dallas.
i really like how this has changed my expectations for the outcome of games, thanks for keeping up with this.
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Dec 29, 2008 3:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
and by the way
i really like the boring stuff, my gf and i go over it together. it puts us on more eqeal ground.
December 18, 2008.
"Roy is Roy, and if I were to bet my life on a game of 5-on-5, I’d bet on whichever team Roy was playing on." by HurraKane212
by maid tu rek on Dec 29, 2008 3:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, fixed
I really don’t object to corrections AT ALL, especially on a fan post where I can edit it.
And I worry about you and your gf, if your idea of a good time together is reading my posts. Although it’s about the Blazers, so that helps.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 29, 2008 3:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is not helpful information
Where are the charts and graphs that show me how many wins we will have biased on the numbers on our jerseys?
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 29, 2008 3:59 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
D'oh
You need to read the post, dummy. These are the stupid projections. If you want smart ones based on jersey numbers, I’m the wrong guy for that. (Besides, I’m not smart enough to do charts and graphs, either).
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 29, 2008 4:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute! You aren't smart enough to do charts and graph and you want to rule the world?!?!
I think not! :)
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 29, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To me the Blazers looked like they were playing a lot more physical ball the last 2 or 3 games.
Is it enough to match the Celtics, probably not, but if the shots are falling (they went scoreless for 10 minutes except for a free throw last Celtics game) they can take this game.
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by Blazer1342 on Dec 29, 2008 5:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
If the Cs can lose at Golden State
they can lose at Portland. I’m not predicting it, but it is certainly well within the realm of possibility.
I think their blowout of the Kings actually makes it more likely. Not that they’ll let down, but their anger over losing two will be somewhat dissipated by that. They’ll come to play, though.
I’d give us a 30-40% chance of a win.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 29, 2008 6:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take that.
They really came out in the 2nd half of the Toronto game with some tough D. I think that actually might have won the game for them.
If they can bring that defense again for the whole game, I might even give them a 50% chance, or a little higher? But they will have to play a good game at all levels.
They were rotating out fast and hard in that 2nd half, I’d like to see a little more of that. We’ve got the horses; we should be able to let them run.
One thing that has impressed me this year is their ability to go on a run, or to claw their way back from a 10-15 point deficit, they were far and few between lat year.
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by Blazer1342 on Dec 29, 2008 6:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
They faced GS the night after losing in an extremely competitive game against the L*kers.
But your 30-40% chance of winning sounds about right.
by Eventine on Dec 29, 2008 11:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
They lost at Indiana, too, but that also was a back-to-back. That’s why those matter.
I’ll change it, then. They lost at home to Denver after a day off, and they are coming here after a day off. Right now, Portland at home is better than Denver on the road (we proved that last week), so if they could lose to Denver in Boston, they could lose to us here.
I can use comparative scores to also prove that OKC is better than Boston. :) The point, of course (as we all know) is that stuff happens in the NBA, especially on the road. We have a decent chance.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 29, 2008 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thats just too many Cats to deal with
even for me
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by bow4meow on Dec 29, 2008 7:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Perspective
Nice update. Now that we have had a few weeks using these Categories, I am struck by how much perspective they provide on the team’s performance relative to the other Western Conference contenders.
1) LA is clearly head and shoulders above everybody else in the conference;
2) Houston is a bit ahead of everyone else with NO and SA looking like a real dogfight;
3) Portland and Denver are in a dogfight for the Division crown and home court in the first round. You probably have to give a slight edge to Denver based on their play since the trade for Billups, but Portland is right there;
4) Phoenix, Dallas and Utah are in a real battle for the last two spots.
Utah appears to be in real trouble. They have dropped a bunch of games against loosing teams. Obviously the injuries have had a real impact.
Right now you would have to project the Blazers as a 3rd, 5th or 6th seed, depending on who wins the Division. Hope they can maintain the pace, continue to develop the young players, and improve team defense.
This week is going to be super tough. I will be happy if we win one out of three and are competitive in the other two. Beating Boston would be sweet. I give the Blazers about a 40% chance. If their shots fall early, that will really help. Regarding the L@kers, I hope our guys don’t lay another goose egg like they did on opening night. We don’t need the team developing a complex about these guys. We are going to have an amazing rivalry in the years ahead.
by upper left corner on Dec 29, 2008 9:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have the Blazers going 51-31
Nice analysis, jscot.
As a jump shooting team, we will have some off nights when we least expect it. I see us throwing in a couple clunkers that move us down those two games overall. Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes he eats you.
by LaoTzu on Dec 29, 2008 11:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Okay, 52-30 after tonight's win against Boston!
I see some disbelievers of this analysis. I think the method has real value, especially in assessing team’s chances in the Western Conference where there are 9 “haves” and a bunch of teams that suck. (That home loss to the Clips … ugh … could haunt us in the final standings.) This method also allows a ready way to parse through differences in strength of schedule and Home v Away games played without getting too far into the season. I think it is a reasonable method for projecting season records.
It does not take into account injury (Boozer being out seems to artificially lower Utah’s chances, unless we expect him to be out most of the season or ineffective when he returns). Nor does it try to assess the relative impacts of potential injury (the Blazers simply get better — evidently if we are down to suiting up Channing, his two bulldogs, Shavlik and Nate, we beat anyone — we be that deep).
It also does not take into account trends in relative improvement. You could assess improvement within terms of this model — I would like that! For instance, San Antonio’s loss tonight at home to Milwaukee tonight was a step back. I don’t know how many games this system would take to validate a trend, unless it was dramatic. (Boston must be trending down! Go Blazers!) And for instance, the Blazers are 5-5 L10, but have had a tough schedule.
I am interested to see this repeated mid-season, with an evaluation of how the system is holding up, and an assessment at season’s end comparing projections at various stages with actual records.
by LaoTzu on Dec 31, 2008 1:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll plan on doing it every week
though my work may blow me out of the water on that.
Houston’s loss at home to Washington (without Butler) was just as bad (within this model) as our loss to the Clips, but in reality far worse. The Clips have enough weapons to be dangerous any time. The Wizards without Butler should not be that hard to shut down.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just don't get crazy and write more than one a week
Because that’s about how long it takes to read these posts.
"There is a difference between having two guys banging down low and having two guys who can bang down low." - Blazin'
by tominhawaii on Dec 31, 2008 3:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Skip all the boring stuff
and go down to the stupid projections.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 31, 2008 3:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to read your post, but . . .
instead I thought I would propose
55-27 again !
- The Blazers will rule the world soon, again !
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Dec 29, 2008 11:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Might be the best stupid post ever
by southern oregon on Dec 29, 2008 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
HEY!!!!
WHO YOU CALLING STUPID?!?!
Actually, it’s only the calculated projections that are stupid. The rest of it, IMO, is useful in assessing who really has a difficult schedule ahead and who doesn’t.
But I take comfort in this. You’ve acknowledged that I’m the best at something.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 29, 2008 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know I was kiding about the best part
There are lots of people way better at stupid than you
by southern oregon on Dec 29, 2008 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll try to raise my game
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 29, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You can get stupider if you put enough effort into it
But so far I am underwhelmed with your improvment in this area
by southern oregon on Dec 29, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
...
…
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 29, 2008 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Any ruler of the world
Needs some insight into the dumb people mentality,good luck with that one,its a mystery to me
by southern oregon on Dec 29, 2008 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rent Idiocracy !
Don’t give up in the first 20 minutes,
as the stupidity is very annoying. I imagine
even to a stupid person ?
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Dec 29, 2008 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Something to think about . . .
BRex getting on all fours and barking
at Stickman !
Rookies ????
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Dec 29, 2008 12:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
These rankings are interesting.
I wonder what would happen if you weighted the rankings a bit more by taking into account changes that have taken place during the season. For instance, only account for the games Denver has played since they got Billups, the games SA has played since they got Parker and Manu back, the games Dallas has played since they stopped trying to run the Princeton offense, etc. So instead of including those early games in the team’s averages, you would extrapolate based only on how the team is playing at its current level, and then tack on the other games. Make sense?
I’m guessing San Antonio, Dallas, and Denver would look considerably better than they currently do, and we would look a little worse. My gut tells me reality in the WC looks a little more like this:
1. L.*.
2. San Antonio
3. Denver
4. Houston
5. New Orleans
6. Dallas
7. Phoenix
8. Portland
9. Utah
Which is fine by me. I’d love a piece of the L*kers in the first round. The only team I truly fear out west is the Spurs. They’re a machine, and I don’t think our young guys are ready for that. It’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
by bfan on Dec 29, 2008 12:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Too much work
for something that is horribly imprecise no matter how you do it. The rankings are no more than a bit of fun, it’s the stuff above that is useful.
You are right, of course, in the factors you mention. But then you also have to factor in Utah’s injuries. And Oden’s injury. And Martell’s. And in-season development of Greg and other rookies. Etc, etc.
I think as Greg improves, this team is going to be even better than they have been, and we’re going to see a lot of nice wins the last half of the season. Especially if Martell comes back playing well.
I would love to get the Spurs in the second round. It would be great to win a round, and great to go up against them.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 29, 2008 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
utah may have some trouble brewing
as carlos boozer is out with a strained quad and is having an MRI on his knee, plus is not on good terms with the owner right now. he missed an extraordinary number of games with a strained quad earlier in his career and has been suspected of malingering at times.
meanwhile, paul millsapp has a “sprained” knee.
utah plans to give kosta koufos and kyrlo fysenko more minutes. they might not be that bad, but…
ignacio
by ignacio on Dec 29, 2008 1:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Didn't know about that
Millsap out 7-10 days from last Friday. Missed games:
Home against Dallas: W
Away against Houston: L
Probably miss:
Home against Philly tonight.
Away to Lakers Friday.
They will probably beat Philly anyway. They would probably lose to the L@kers either way.
Might miss:
Home to GS on Monday. (Probable win anyway).
Will definitely want him back for:
Next Wednesday home against the Hornets.
A week from Saturday home against the Pistons (that’s two weeks on from when they said 7-10 days).
If he comes back as expected without further injury, it may not cost them any games.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 29, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you are nice
We’ll let you become a Kings or Timberwolves fan.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 29, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lucky to make the playoffs
They’ll need to play consistent defense to get into the playoffs. At this point, Utah seems the most likely to fade. If we beat NO, that would be great, but they’re a great team, and Boston, LA, not this year….maybe in a 1-2 years.
by 3pointer on Dec 29, 2008 3:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Love it
There are so many variables in trying to predict how teams will fare the rest of the season. Injuries, the developement of different players on different teams, remainding schedules, and perhaps a major unknown variable: how some current “losing” teams might later become “winning” teams based on chemistry, growth or trades. Anyway, I love your analysis and perspective. I have felt the Blazers have many positive things going for them coming into the latter part of the season, and your information helps to point this out. I just hope all of the current cellar dwellers do not somehow get better before we play them – like OKC, Philly, and Memphis. Anyway, very nice “stupid” work!
by Holybackboards on Dec 29, 2008 3:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How we doing?
Hi Jscot! Thanks for the update. It is a comfort to see that we have a scheduling edge over our competitors.
I’m sure noone is interested but I thought I would list my prognostication so that I can go back later and say I told you so!:
1.LA
2.San Antonio
3.Houston
4.Utah
5.Phoenix
6.New Orleans
7.Denver
8.Portland
9.Dallas
Have to choose Portland at #8 because I am a homer. But the real separation I see is between 2-6 (The elite squads) and 7,8 or 9. So 2 through 6 are interchangeable as are 7 through 9.
That is my completely unscientific rating based on the games I’ve seen.
by Blazin' on Dec 29, 2008 3:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Utah and Phoenix at 4 and 5?
Seems very high given that their current records are lower and they both have a lot of tough games coming. Utah especially.
by upper left corner on Dec 30, 2008 2:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think one has to account for the quality of the team
as well as their record.
by Blazin' on Dec 30, 2008 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK Homer, er Homes
For what it’s worth slots 4,5,6 seem pretty shakey in terms of maintaining. Teams 8,9 seem to have a better chance of moving up rather than down. Denver is a wildcard.
by oregonslee on Dec 29, 2008 4:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
this is based on my impression of these teams when we played them
Phoenix and Utah both seemed really tough to me. Denver and Dallas seemed softer, like us.
by Blazin' on Dec 29, 2008 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember that if NJ loses another game, everything changes drastically
Count on it! NJ has a winning road record and a losing home record — really! it isn’t even close! — and they have mostly home games coming up. Including Portland on Jan. 15.
by Kaboomm on Dec 29, 2008 6:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just for kicks
Last night, NJ became a losing team, hurting primarily Phoenix and Utah, and helping Portland, Dallas, and San Antonio.
Houston had a BAD home loss to Washington, who was without Butler. Apparently they didn’t notice that with Butler out, all they really needed to do was concentrate on stopping Jamison. Did I mention this was a home game, and a BAD loss? Houston drops. Even if they win their next three (and the one at Atlanta on a back to back will be tough), they’ll be lower next week.
Speaking of Atlanta, Denver lost there. No surprise, really. Phoenix won at OKC (yawn), and in the battle of “we really do have a PF but you can’t tell by who we can put on the floor” teams, Utah won at home against Philly.
Today’s stupid projections:
1. L.A. — 66.3 wins.
2. Portland — 54.8.
3. N.O. — 54.1.
4. S.A. — 53.9.
5. Houston — 52.7.
6. Denver — 52.4.
7. Dallas — 50.3.
8. Phoenix — 48.2.
9. Utah — 45.0.
New Jersey plays Wednesday at Detroit, which may confirm them as a losing team.
This shows the marvelous beauty of these projections. Whether a near .500 team in the Eastern Conference wins or loses their next game has more impact than how any of the top 9 in the West do in their next game. The NJ factor will diminish as the season goes along, but it’s kind of funny right now. At least, funny for weirdos like me.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 30, 2008 4:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
that's just science
If you can’t understand why New Jersey v. Chicago has huge implications on the West playoff race, you just don’t know basketball.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Dec 30, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If a butterfly lands on Tominhawaii ...
we will hear about it.
Chaos theory, baby.
So it’s “so 1990s” — we were good then, too.
by LaoTzu on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
utah won't have boozer back until mid-february at best
however, i wouldnt rule out kysenko and kosta koufos developing under sloan — deron williams picking up his game as well. last boxscore they were really moving the ball. even kyle korver of all people had 5 assists.
ignacio
by ignacio on Dec 30, 2008 6:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
D-will is the key
He can carry that team if he gets on a roll, and with Boozer out, they need him to. They’ve left themselves a mountain to climb, but there’s no doubt they have the talent to climb it. Whether they can put it together and do so, though, remains to be seen.
There’s little factors like the fact that both of their games in Portland are on back-to-backs, and we’ve had success against them at home. No one would really expect them to win either of those games, even if they are playing really well at the time, and we’re a couple games ahead of them as it is.
Also, after a 1-3 Western trip, you can bet Boston will be breathing fire on future West trips, so Utah may have their hands full when the Cs show up in SLC.
No one should rule out Utah, but they’ve got by far the hardest road ahead.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 31, 2008 1:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Update again
Phoenix wins at Memphis (yawn), N.O. beats Washington at home (bigger yawn unless you live in Houston), Dallas tried to lose at Minnesota but the Wolves were too much for them, and Cleveland helps to make our Florida sweep look impressive.
Spurs lose at home to Milwaukie, their first home loss against a losing team this year (they’re now 9-1, that’s right, 10 of their 31 games have been at home against losing teams). Spurs drop from 4th at 53.9 to 6th at 51.9, only really big move of the day. Of course, Milwaukie could replace NJ as the swing team that skews all projections — or they could both hover at .500.
Today’s stupid projections:
1. L.A. — 66.3 wins.
2. Portland — 55.4.
3. N.O. — 54.8.
4. Houston — 52.7.
5. Denver — 52.4.
6. S.A. — 51.9.
7. Dallas — 50.3.
8. Phoenix — 48.5.
9. Utah — 45.0.
If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President
by jscot on Dec 31, 2008 1:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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