not to dis Webster at all. Both TO and NB have long arms and defend well. Both hit threes.

I hope Webster gets some time at 3 and some at 2. I also hope Outlaw continues to get time at 3 and 4 both. – Elgin.

That is what dilutes the power of rec’s getting to the forefront……People giving a rec because they happen to agree with the post or because they want you to read their comments….it ends up being a rec war instead of a deserving qualification to a good read or comment……In other words…recs lose their value and become overrated because you still have to contend with egos and accompanying garbage they can be associated with… as a result you raise the rec # and keep raising it until it reaches a majority….and who knows where that is?
  the junk drawer is a necessity (the only filter we have for separating idle chit chat from genuine basketball talk and it satisfies the social aspect of sitting alone at the computer) the trade drawer is not necessary…..

is that the blog format is not sufficiently flexible for our needs on BE. Rather than just have “Fanposts” and “Fanshots”, along with recommended ones, we really need to have groupings for several different categories — OT chatting and trade ideas are the two most obvious. If we actually had such a system, we might also have permanent areas for tickets to sell/buy, personal accounts of games, and more. (I’d propose another one for trolling if it would ever be used ;)

Since we apparently cannot do this, we do the next best thing for the OT content — we have a daily Junk Drawer. Reccing it serves the purpose of positioning it prominently on the page, thus encouraging people to use it instead of frequently reverting to going OT in other fanposts. It’s a voluntary system that depends on people being willing to adopt a convention. So far it’s worked really well, I think.

As far as trade conversation goes, I believe we could see some decrease in the number of threads if we do adopt a new convention of maintaining a Trading Post™. My main concern with trade discussions is that there have been so many that they have drowned out a lot of the other topics. The use of bogus trade proposals by trolls is probably inevitable, and nothing much can be done about them a priori.

A Trading Post™ might not need to be replaced on a daily basis, but I do think it should be recced in order to be as prominent as possible on the site. It might be allowed to accumulate posts until it becomes too unwieldy.

Let’s continue to discuss this and other ideas for

Trade junk post?

the other team also absorbs Eddy Curry’s gigantic contract. In New York, it’s about the summer of 2010.

I’ve already gone over this way too many times here, though, so I don’t feel the need to rehash it in detail.

By the way, numerous statistical measurements indicate that David Lee is superior to LaMarcus Aldridge.

It’s a simple yet effective solution as long as it is possible.

I wonder if Caron Butler could become available if Washington keeps sucking… The RLEC would give them cap space to pursue DeShawn Stevenson’s big brother (King James)…

But the Bullets wouldn’t. Butler is an all-star and there is no way they make that trade unless they completely go into rebuilding mode, which won’t happen because they just resigned Gilbert and Jamison for around 160 million.

I really don’t like haslem at center.

Is in a blockbuster deal for a max guy – e.g., Jefferson in the KG deal, or Devin Harris in the Kidd trade. Can anybody think of another example?

No chance the Blazers would ever get Gay, Stuckey, Rondo, et al., anytime in the near future. Lee could be in play, but probably only if you except a bad contract back (Curry) that extends past 2010. No way they would give up one of their expiring deals AND Lee in the same deal for less than a legit stud.

Caron would also be #1 on my list. I like Gerald Wallace ahead of Jefferson, because like Outlaw he can play the 3 or the 4; his jumpshot is suspect; but his defense and aggressiveness driving to the basket is a positive. I think Charlotte would value Frye in trade, given their need for a PF. Eventually, I’ll post my five year plan – but the first step is acquiring Gerald Wallace for Frye, RLEC – the salaries match is salary anchor Matt Carroll is included. Wallace would fit well in the second unit where the Spanish guards, plus Outlaw at PF are suspect on defense.

In year two – you have expiring contracts in Blake, Outlaw, Rodriguez – and provided none of breakouts to a new level of performance you do reconsider the Hinrich trade. (whose deal ends the same year as Bayless’ rookie scale, BTW)

Year 3 looks like this:
Hinrich/ Bayless/ Koponen
Roy/ Fernandez/ Carroll
Webster/ Batum
Aldridge/ GWallace/ 09 Draft (Patterson)
Oden/ Przybilla*/ Freeland

*Przybilla enters the last year of his contract, and the Blazers would have to decide whether they could allocate enough minutes to satisfy an resigned Przybilla or they want to have Freeland step into that space for development purposes and part ways. Patrick Patterson is compared to Buck Williams at nbadraft.net

Getting pretty close to that five year plan…but that will suffice for now….

This is the kind of comment that will make the trading post go places.

One correction – the rationale for Brad Miller doesn’t hold. No good to put off the EC until 2010 b/c that summer the Blazers have to extend Roy and LMA, and poof, there goes your cap room even if you do have an EC. So you have to get a new salary on the books THIS summer to take advantage. Dave originally broke this down nicely sometime over the summer.

I still think the most feasible, likely, and advantageous use of RLEC is a rumor you didn’t mention – Hinrich. I think that will be dormant for a few months until Kirk is healthy, and then near the deadline it will happen.

I value an upgrade at the PG spot over an upgrade at the three. No need for another big scorer, just looking to plug gaps. Defense at the point is the biggest gap – if Hinrich’s shot returns to form, he would be perfect. Blake is a nice role player but his combination of being 170 lbs. and relatively slow makes him struggle against strong OR quick points. Love his effort, though.

At the three, Batum’s D and Martell’s shooting fill the roles the Blazers need. A scorer like Butler or Jefferson would just take looks/touches away from other guys. I’m not convinced somebody like that would help a ton, and they might actually hurt (especially Jefferson – he’s inefficient and no longer rebounds well).

Love Spencer Hawes. Unfortunately I’m sure the Kings love him too.

This guy is beast

I think what you said is too controversial. We needed a trade yesterday, any trade will do. Maybe a 2nd round pick will calm the tradeholics.

Take Surge out of my line-up. Blake backed up by B-Rex.

except he’s the 19 year old French version.

is much too much to give up for Tayshaun. And Tayshaun is great. – Elgin

Player Team Type
Speedy Claxton Atlanta Unrestricted F.A.
Joe Johnson Atlanta Unrestricted F.A.
Randolph Morris Atlanta Unrestricted F.A.
Ray Allen Boston Unrestricted F.A.
Tony Allen Boston Unrestricted F.A.
Eddie House Boston Unrestricted F.A.
Patrick O’Bryant Boston Unrestricted F.A.
Gabe Pruitt Boston Restricted F.A.
Rajon Rondo Boston Restricted F.A.
Brian Scalabrine Boston Unrestricted F.A.
Adam Morrison Charlotte Restricted F.A.
Larry Hughes Chicago Unrestricted F.A.
Thabo Sefolosha Chicago Restricted F.A.
Tyrus Thomas Chicago Restricted F.A.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas Cleveland Unrestricted F.A.
Tarence Kinsey Cleveland Unrestricted F.A.
Aleksandar Pavlovic Cleveland Unrestricted F.A.
Anderson Varejao Cleveland Unrestricted F.A.
Ben Wallace Cleveland Unrestricted F.A.
Jawad Williams Cleveland Restricted F.A.
Devean George Dallas Unrestricted F.A.
Jerry Stackhouse Dallas Unrestricted F.A.
Shawne Williams Dallas Restricted F.A.
Antoine Wright Dallas Unrestricted F.A.
Chucky Atkins Denver Unrestricted F.A.
Renaldo Balkman Denver Restricted F.A.
Steven Hunter Denver Unrestricted F.A.
Alex Acker Detroit Restricted F.A.
Kwame Brown Detroit Unrestricted F.A.
Will Bynum Detroit Restricted F.A.
Amir Johnson Detroit Unrestricted F.A.
Walter Sharpe Detroit Restricted F.A.
Anthony Morrow Golden State Restricted F.A.
DeMarcus Nelson Golden State Restricted F.A.
Rafer Alston Houston Unrestricted F.A.
Brent Barry Houston Unrestricted F.A.
Tracy McGrady Houston Unrestricted F.A.
Luis Scola Houston Restricted F.A.
Marquis Daniels Indiana Unrestricted F.A.
Travis Diener Indiana Unrestricted F.A.
Marcus Camby L.A. Clippers Unrestricted F.A.
Mardy Collins L.A. Clippers Restricted F.A.
Ricky Davis L.A. Clippers Unrestricted F.A.
Brian Skinner L.A. Clippers Unrestricted F.A.
Jordan Farmar L.A. Lakers Restricted F.A.
Derek Fisher L.A. Lakers Unrestricted F.A.
DJ Mbenga L.A. Lakers Unrestricted F.A.
Josh Powell L.A. Lakers Unrestricted F.A.
Sun Yue L.A. Lakers Restricted F.A.
Rudy Gay Memphis Restricted F.A.
Kyle Lowry Memphis Restricted F.A.
Darko Milicic Memphis Unrestricted F.A.
Mark Blount Miami Unrestricted F.A.
Yakhouba Diawara Miami Unrestricted F.A.
Udonis Haslem Miami Unrestricted F.A.
Shaun Livingston Miami Unrestricted F.A.
Chris Quinn Miami Unrestricted F.A.
Dorell Wright Miami Unrestricted F.A.
Malik Allen Milwaukee Unrestricted F.A.
Francisco Elson Milwaukee Unrestricted F.A.
Luke Ridnour Milwaukee Unrestricted F.A.
Brian Cardinal Minnesota Unrestricted F.A.
Randy Foye Minnesota Restricted F.A.
Mark Madsen Minnesota Unrestricted F.A.
Mike Miller Minnesota Unrestricted F.A.
Craig Smith Minnesota Unrestricted F.A.
Josh Boone New Jersey Restricted F.A.
Trenton Hassell New Jersey Unrestricted F.A.
Jarvis Hayes New Jersey Unrestricted F.A.
Bobby Simmons New Jersey Unrestricted F.A.
Hilton Armstrong New Orleans Restricted F.A.
Devin Brown New Orleans Unrestricted F.A.
Rasual Butler New Orleans Unrestricted F.A.
Mike James New Orleans Unrestricted F.A.
Chris Duhon New York Unrestricted F.A.
Al Harrington New York Unrestricted F.A.
Jerome James New York Unrestricted F.A.
Cuttino Mobley New York Unrestricted F.A.
Quentin Richardson New York Unrestricted F.A.
Anthony Roberson New York Unrestricted F.A.
Tim Thomas New York Unrestricted F.A.
Steven Hill Oklahoma City Restricted F.A.
Mouhamed Sene Oklahoma City Restricted F.A.
Earl Watson Oklahoma City Unrestricted F.A.
Damien Wilkins Oklahoma City Unrestricted F.A.
Tony Battie Orlando Unrestricted F.A.
Brian Cook Orlando Unrestricted F.A.
Anthony Johnson Orlando Unrestricted F.A.
J.J. Redick Orlando Restricted F.A.
Hedo Turkoglu Orlando Unrestricted F.A.
Royal Ivey Philadelphia Unrestricted F.A.
Louis Amundson Phoenix Unrestricted F.A.
Raja Bell Phoenix Unrestricted F.A.
Steve Nash Phoenix Unrestricted F.A.
Shaquille O’Neal Phoenix Unrestricted F.A.
Sean Singletary Phoenix Restricted F.A.
LaMarcus Aldridge Portland Restricted F.A.
Steve Blake Portland Unrestricted F.A.
Travis Outlaw Portland Unrestricted F.A.
Sergio Rodriguez Portland Restricted F.A.
Brandon Roy Portland Restricted F.A.
Bobby Brown Sacramento Restricted F.A.
Brad Miller Sacramento Unrestricted F.A.
Mikki Moore Sacramento Unrestricted F.A.
Kenny Thomas Sacramento Unrestricted F.A.
Blake Ahearn San Antonio Restricted F.A.
Matt Bonner San Antonio Unrestricted F.A.
Bruce Bowen San Antonio Unrestricted F.A.
Michael Finley San Antonio Unrestricted F.A.
Manu Ginobili San Antonio Unrestricted F.A.
Roger Mason San Antonio Unrestricted F.A.
Fabricio Oberto San Antonio Unrestricted F.A.
Kurt Thomas San Antonio Unrestricted F.A.
Anthony Tolliver San Antonio Restricted F.A.
Hassan Adams Toronto Unrestricted F.A.
Andrea Bargnani Toronto Restricted F.A.
Nathan Jawai Toronto Restricted F.A.
Jermaine O’Neal Toronto Unrestricted F.A.
Carlos Boozer Utah Unrestricted F.A.
Ronnie Brewer Utah Restricted F.A.
Kyrylo Fesenko Utah Restricted F.A.
Matt Harpring Utah Unrestricted F.A.
Kyle Korver Utah Unrestricted F.A.
Mehmet Okur Utah Unrestricted F.A.
Dee Brown Washington Restricted F.A.
Antonio Daniels Washington Unrestricted F.A.
Brendan Haywood Washington Unrestricted F.A.
Dominic McGuire Washington Restricted F.A.
Etan Thomas Washington Unrestricted F.A

it would take a lot to get him – and for me, Blake + Outlaw is too much to give up for TJ Ford. – Elgin

driving layup guy ONLY
now i hate his offensive game, but Rondo isnt much better and he seems to be doing alright. So i dont think its out of the question. Just remember he was traded for Jermaine O’Neal so one bench player isnt gonna cut it. Although Jack has been getting some run in Indy so maybe they would be amiable to trading him

and Miller a SF?
Also dude cmon.. Brian Cardinal.. that was a joke right? Chris Quinn? where did the top 5 come from?

Drexlers for Malones