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Fanpost Update: Recs Go to the Next Level

After reading some of the comments in the last couple of days and observing Fanposts for the last few months I have made a small change to the system.

I figure since this blog represents the cream of the crop, so to speak, getting a Fanpost highlighted should be a bit more challenging.  Before this 5 recs would get your Fanpost on the marquee list.  That's just been upped to 7.  This gives all of you extra incentive to make your Fanposts tight and relevant in order to hit the big time.  We might raise it again at some point to make getting highlighted a truly momentous achievement.  Sometimes other blogs with fewer Fanposts lower the threshold, so in a way raising it does highlight how uber-cool you all are.

I did NOT raise the bar on Fanshots in the same way.  They are still considered the stepchild of the sidebar in some ways and I wanted to keep promotion for them easy.  Neither does this affect the number of recs needed to promote a comment within a thread.  5 recs still makes your comment go green.  That's happening rarely enough to make it special as it is.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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thank you.

this was def needed.

Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.

Follow my twitter www.twitter.com/PDXBlazersFTW, @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.

by lanepete on Dec 2, 2008 12:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's awesome

What NBA blog on SBN has the highest REC threshhold?

AtTheHive was set at 1 REC until a few days ago when Sophia or someone else made half of the thread green, so they bumped it up to 3.

But I’m curious… does any other blog on here have a 7 REC level?

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 2, 2008 12:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I guess it's time I make 2 more ghost accounts

Although, as I glance as the sidebar I notice that everyone over there has more than 7 recs anyway. And I’ve noticed a lot of posts getting copious wreckage before these ones as well. I wonder….what if we did something similar to the flagging system for the rec system. You have to give a short explanation as to why you like the post. Not that in would have to be approved by anyone, but the extra step might discourage herd Rec-ing. I swear, sometimes I just can’t resist being the person who recs a post over the top.

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Dec 2, 2008 12:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

yeah, now they all have 7

But “Batum Interview” from yesterday dropped out because it only has 6.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 2, 2008 12:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We may take it to 10 soon

I just didn’t want to make that jump all at once.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 2, 2008 12:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love the move...

it’s frustrating when the truly excellent posts get kicked down so quickly because there are so many other very good (but not super great) posts in one day.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 2, 2008 12:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but that was so short

That technically it should have been a FanShot.

I don’t think people should be allowed to rec stuff that uses Pers or +/- in their FanPost. There is no proof that those numbers mean anything except to bloggers.

by tominhawaii on Dec 2, 2008 8:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But you're right about the herd mentality when it comes to RECing

If a good post doesn’t get early REC-ignition, then it may never build the REC-mentum to get over the top. Other, worse posts may get two or three early RECs and get over the hump based purely on groupthink or peer pressure.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 2, 2008 12:40 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec-mentum

I love it. Rec!

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Dec 2, 2008 12:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"......Other, worse posts may get two or three early RECs ...''''

This phenomenom is also known as “Rec’d em” (say that phonically and you will know why it stinks)

On drowning my daughter before she becomes a teenager (to my son)-"You know how when you want to drown someone, you first tie something heavy to the their foot?" My Son: "Yeah?" Me:"You're the something heavy"

by 92wastheyear on Dec 2, 2008 8:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

rec

And that’s why my mind sometimes puckers before clicking open an recommended FanPost. I can’t trust that it will be good writing; it might be painful.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 2, 2008 9:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Joking aside..

… I’m certain there are several ghost accounts hanging around here. Some that aren’t so hard to spot, either.

by zaruga on Dec 2, 2008 2:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for always updating as needed.

not a stubborn site owner like some.

by Blazerland on Dec 2, 2008 12:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Let me be the first to

REC THIS POST!!!!!!!!!111

can we change rec to rex….in honor of Bayless?

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 1:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good move

I already commented about this yesterday. That you can set these numbers independent of each other makes fine-tuning easier.

A technical thing: Is there a mechanism on SBN that considers and maybe subtracts recs and flags? Probably not.
I really like the system in general. But I don’t think a post that has been flagged by more than say five people should be able to become recommended (regardless of why some people rec’ed it in the first place). I understand even fairly sophisticated systems can be gamed, but it takes away from the work people are putting into their "real posts" when figuratively speaking the snot sticks on top. And I suppose the community does the best job at recognizing most of the real snot ("Marbury") as opposed to hard/creative work, researched posts or planned jokes ("Baron Davis") when they see it.

P.S.: On other SBN blogs 3 recs already do the job – even fairly large ones. So the standard to turn a comment green or make a post stick on BE is already higher and the turnaround of posts faster – which can be both a good and a bad thing. Good because there is so much great new content every day. Bad because the time to discuss it is often fairly short, and you would likely miss it if you stay away form the blog more than a day or two. I have no recommendation what the optimal number for this community is, that is at your discretion to set the pace.

by Norsktroll on Dec 2, 2008 6:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

and an applause worthy of great Roman Ampitheaters....

lol…I just jazzed the hive for the same thing……

SET THE STANDARD GENTALMEN….(and ladies)….

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 2, 2008 7:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Just like our rising Blazers...

Recommended Fanposts should be title worthy!!! Rec it up to 20!!! woo woo!!

by broyposse on Dec 2, 2008 7:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good move.

I’m all for the “unrec” option whenever you can unveil that one, too.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Dec 2, 2008 8:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We could do this already, sort of

The first person who disapproves can just post “unrec”, and other people can turn the unrec green 50 times over.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Dec 2, 2008 8:41 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Good idea.

rec.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Dec 2, 2008 9:21 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

rec

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 2, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

rec

Someone else will have to turn it green.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Dec 2, 2008 2:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DONE

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Dec 2, 2008 3:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now we just need two other changes, Dave

1. A bigger server cluster to handle gameday threads (not your responsibility)
2. Ability to edit posts (also not your responsibility

Any news from the SB Nation gnomes on whether or not they’ll be adding this functionality / scaling out production?

by DonkeyShins on Dec 2, 2008 8:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is there any way to make the interface for FanShots the same as for FanPosts?

I know that’s why I don’t use them — what a pain that is…

Editability of posts is far and away the most needed improvement of SBNation as a whole.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 2, 2008 8:53 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

I totally agree with you Timbo...

the fanshots interface drives me nuts. So I don’t post a lot of stuff that I would otherwise – since it is usually not worthy of a FanPost, I just don’t post it at all.

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by LaMarvelous on Dec 2, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

a polling option...

it needs it’s own kinda poll gizmo. I agree too ;]

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 2, 2008 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Write a fanpost about what you think needs done

Then it will get lots of recs and we can send it to the SB Nation folks.

by tominhawaii on Dec 2, 2008 2:31 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That is actually a good idea

rec

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Dec 2, 2008 2:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Call....

May consider doing the same thing for Fanshots..

Dave, I have noticed a ton of Activity compared to other NBA blogs. Where does Blazers Edge Rank as far as posts, comments, traffic, etc.? or do you know?

by TheWorkz on Dec 2, 2008 9:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

may have found some of my own answer..

But I am interested in how much activity compared to other blogs Blazers Edge gets..

http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=sm9sbnnet&r=37

  1. on entry pages

by TheWorkz on Dec 2, 2008 9:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Strange that Bloody Elbow (the MMA SBN site)

gets more hits on the main page the BE, yet the number of comments and posts on that site are not even close to Blazer’s Edge or Celtics Blog (the #2 and 3 on the list, respectively).

No doubt BE gets WAAAAAY more overall hits than that site.

"I like blocks," Fernandez said.

by joelor on Dec 2, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec +1 props and all that

Gotta love those people that put +1 or rec in a reply to a post and then don’t hit the freaking rec button. It ain’t that hard people.

Sorry…just a pet peeve of mine…but I don’t want to be THAT GUY who goes around policing people’s comments, so I’ll leave it at this.

You can rec my comment if you agree… :)

"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan

by jamon51 on Dec 2, 2008 12:28 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

+1

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Dec 2, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

THAT GUY.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Dec 2, 2008 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Duplicates

drive me crazy. Sometimes breaking news will show up in 3 fanshots in a row plus a fanpost or two. I know that sometimes they are posted within moments of each other and it’s impossible to know at the time, but look at yours after it is posted – if there is another one please delete yours. There is no reward for being first or second or the highest number of posts ever – this place isn’t about you, it’s about the Blazers.

"I can foresee a fast-breaking second unit with Sergio, Rudy, Batum, Travis, and Joel doing a lot of damage. " - jscot. "That could be a starting lineup by itself." - Kaboomm. 12/01/08

by jorga on Dec 2, 2008 12:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

alot of people don't know how to delete their post....

I had trouble with it, due to the lack of a “delete” button….but If I’m remembering right it’s the red x that does the trick right?

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 2, 2008 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

For those who aren’t aware : click on your name at the top of the page, then click on manage fanposts & fanshots. Your last 3 of each will be shown and at the far right is a pencil for editing and a red x for deleting.

"I can foresee a fast-breaking second unit with Sergio, Rudy, Batum, Travis, and Joel doing a lot of damage. " - jscot. "That could be a starting lineup by itself." - Kaboomm. 12/01/08

by jorga on Dec 2, 2008 3:46 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Duplicates drive me crazy too

More often than not, they shove something good off the front page. It’s especially frustrating when there’s a duplicate because someone wasn’t clear in their fanpost/fanshot title (another pet peeve).

by Corvid on Dec 2, 2008 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"this place isn’t about you, it’s about the Blazers."

Wow, am I disillusioned. Are you sure? Who made you the police around here, anyway? I think it is about me.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Dec 2, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jorga's the Blog Police

I’ve read about them here, she must be the chief.

Just kidding and whatnot.

by tominhawaii on Dec 2, 2008 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave...

Is it in the realm of possibilities to have more than 5 Featured Fanposts at a time?

Sometimes the good ones get moved quick. Too quick.

Just a thought.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Dec 2, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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