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Game 27 Recap: Blazers 124, Suns 119

Well, that game was OK.  If you like that kind of thing, that is.

Just kidding!  Oh...my...God.  That was incredible.  I'm warning you now, if you expect rational analysis of this game you're going to be disappointed.  Oh, I have my usual copious notes but they only lasted until midway through the third quarter.  Right about then my rational analyzer shut down for good and I got totally caught up in the game.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path.  There's your rational analysis.

A few other things worth noting:

--Portland used the double-team to good effect tonight, something that's been missing from their repertoire lately.  Back in the days when we stank at defense we used to double team everything that moved, thus making ourselves easy pickings for anybody who could execute a simple pass.  We've moved into a more straight-up defense this year but we've seen some games lately in which selective doubling really would have helped.  Tonight we used the double to perfection.  We didn't employ it every time against any given player.  Instead we waited until opportune times in opportune positions and surprised them with it.  It was a wrinkle reminiscent of the ever-changing zones we were throwing last year.  It's been a while since we've seen a wrinkle like that.  Well done.

--We did a good job of running the Phoenix defenders around, particularly Shaq.  Not letting them get set up hampered their defensive potency.  We ought to take note.

--The Blazers employed their old-school rotation tonight.  Nobody new to the team got more than 17 minutes.  (Though Oden's minutes were dictated more by fouls than choice.)

--That 26-9 run during the second half of the third quarter was the best six minutes of basketball this season.

--We had great energy all game long.  It felt like every possession was important but we didn't play tight in any of them.  We hustled in transition both ways, dove for balls, scrambled for rebounds, attacked the basket, and despite the increase in tempo and energy only committed 6 turnovers all game long.  Wow.

Usually I recap the game flow for those who didn't see the game but I don't think I can do that tonight.  There's no way to describe what happened other than saying Portland was down by 12 in the third quarter and then all hell broke loose, plus a large dose of classic Drexler-era Blazer basketball.  You must find video clips of this game...not highlights or isolated plays, the whole thing.  Or at least everything from the six-minute mark in the third on.

The Blazers did allow Phoenix to shoot 57% tonight and an amazing 66.7% from the three-point line.  But the Suns only got 72 shots up while the Blazers attempted 87 while shooting 52% themselves.  Three-pointers made went to the Suns by 1, free throws made to the Suns by 2, so those extra shots came in handy.  We also had 9 steals to their 3 and, as I said, 6 turnovers overall to their 16.  We did a good job making life difficult for Steve Nash on offense which is a good strategy against Phoenix even if everybody else hits often and scores big.  By the end of the game Nash wasn't looking aggressive at all.  He ended up 5-14 with 15 points and 11 assists.  Those are good numbers but not traditional Nash numbers.  The defense was only partially due to our point guards.  The Blazers switched on everything tonight which left Lamarcus Aldridge out there guarding Nash several times.  The Suns only scored once when that happened that I saw.  Nice job by Lamarcus and the team there.  During the first 30 minutes of the game I did write repeatedly that we need a point guard who can play straight-up defense to complement Roy, though.  But that's a topic for another day.

For tonight, 124-119 is all we have to remember.  That and we finally got one of the schoolyard bullies off of our back, at least for a while.

Individual Notes

If you didn't see what Brandon Roy did it's no good me telling you about it.  The numbers, as awesome as they are, don't do it justice.  He was every bit as good as Kobe Bryant on a good night out there.  (Of course Kobe is Kobe consistently whereas this is a special occasion for Brandon.  No overreaching hubris intended, L*kers fans.  However our boy was M.V.P.-level tonight.)  You ready?  52 points on 14-27 shooting, 5-7 from distance, 19-21 from the free throw line, with 6 assists and 5 rebounds.  Phoenix just couldn't stop him from anywhere.  He looked like he was playing against children.  The all-time Blazer single-game scoring record is 54 by Damon Stoudamire.  That tells you what kind of game this was.

Steve Blake also came up with a huge night.  Most of his points kept us alive during the first half when we were struggling.  Phoenix tried to pull defense off of him to use elsewhere.  Apparently they haven't gotten the memo about that strategy not working this year.  I assume 8-15 shooting, 4-7 on threes, 22 points and 10 assists will make the scouting report next time around.  Now THOSE are Nash numbers.

Tonight also saw the return of Super Trout.  Travis didn't have much impact until the second half.  He was inserted after Roy started going off, at the 3:13 mark of the third quarter.  And he brought his "You can't stop this, and I mean from anywhere" touch with him tonight.  Hello, camel's back.  They call me...STRAW.  Phoenix had no option but to single-cover him.  Whoops.  7-14 for 14 points.  It should also be noted that Travis was rebounding hard in traffic even before he started scoring. Well done, and more playing time probably regained.

Remember how we said in the pre-game that Greg Oden needed to look Shaq in the eye tonight?  Fair warning that his time and stats were limited by picking up 5 fouls in 17 minutes, most of those unnecessary.  That's part of the learning process.  However he did look Shaq in the eye tonight.  More than that, he dunked on Shaq's head tonight and also put up a nice hook on him.  The Blazers helped by featuring him very early...and not just by dumping it to him in the post and watching either.  They involved Shaq in some screen plays which made him move.  That freed Greg up to dive towards the basket and...BAM!  His first two baskets were dunks and both came in the first minute and a half of the game.  In fact the first basket of the game for Phoenix was an authoritative Shaq dunk on which Greg fouled him.  Immediately you thought, "Uh oh...this could be bad."  You wondered if Greg would slink away again.  The very next time down the floor for Portland Steve Blake flips a pass and Greg DUNKS.  Then Oden took Shaq in the post and bodied him a little, forcing a travel.  The very next time down the floor Steve Blake flips a pass and Greg DUNKS!  So much for slinking.  Was Greg as good as Shaq tonight?  No way.  But he was a man against Shaq and not just a rookie.  He also used his body actively on defense, had a couple spectacular blocks, and moved around the court quicker than I've seen him do so far this year.  Props to the Blazers for making sure the big guy got a confidence boost by putting Shaq at a disadvantage.  Props to Oden for taking advantage of it.

Lamarcus Aldridge looked for his shot aggressively until Roy took over the game.  He commanded the Suns' attention with 16 points, 8-12 shooting, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 steals.  He also kept Amare Stoudemire mostly off track for the first half of the game.  Amare ended up getting his but it wasn't the tour de force we expect from him, largely due to Lamarcus making him work and never letting Amare get ahead of the Blazer defense.  Don't underrate that contribution.  An unfettered Amare could have rendered the Roy party moot.

Nicolas Batum was a little hard to see through all of the fireworks.  Basic effort from him.  He did his best to shut down the perimeter but it's hard against Phoenix.  Matt Barnes outplayed him, but I suppose that's not surprising.

Joel Przybilla played 30 minutes due to Oden's foul trouble.  He always plays Shaq hard but only marginally effectively.  He did contribute 6 rebounds, 5 points, 2 assists (pretty ones too), and 4 fouls to the cause.  We wouldn't have won had Joel been our only center tonight but we would have lost if he hadn't have been there.

Rudy hit a couple of threes to keep the Suns honest but also had 3 turnovers in 17 minutes.  Sergio had no turnovers but missed three shots including a layup.  He probably could have done more damage against the light Suns defense but in a game that was clearly going into the 100's missed shots weren't that allowable.  Each had 1 assist, but answer me this:  How come the Spanish Connection can't seem to throw an alley-oop to anyone outside of itself?

Ike Diogu got Channing Frye's minutes tonight.  There were only 6 of them but Diogu got 4 rebounds in that span.  He looked slow and ground-bound on offense though.

It should be noted that both Jerryd Bayless and Channing Frye, despite the DNP-CD's, were among the most vocal and happy-looking celebrators whenever the camera panned to the Portland bench.  Neither looked grumpy.

Final Thoughts

1.  We national viewers got to see the tip off!  Miracles never cease.  Thanks, TNT!  (Or should I say thanks Orlando and San Antonio for playing a relatively efficient game time-wise?)

2.  Games like this make it worth anything to be a Blazer fan.

Listen to the Suns' fans complain about the officiating (I haven't checked, but I'm assuming since it's what happens here after every loss and half the wins) at BrightSideoftheSun.

Check out the Jersey Contest scores for this game and enter the next one here.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

 

 

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I somehow got courtside tickets

and that was the best game I’ve ever seen. Period.

www.bustabucket.com

by GUnit on Dec 19, 2008 12:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

my "friend" zoomed out of town without telling me, went snowboarding, and went to the Blazer game

and then decided to call me and tell me all about it at 12:30 tonight.

I think I can only add "The NBA, where caring for everybody but the fans happens". --amlmart1

by prezofdeath on Dec 19, 2008 1:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh

probably not; just realized you are a bust a bucket dude

by appel82 on Dec 19, 2008 8:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Another losing streak down

We broke the Spurs one earlier, ended Houston’s run from last year, and now Phoenix. All good. The Spurs lost, too (makes our win at Orlando earlier look pretty good).

Warning: gloat coming. One of my comments from the game preview:

Look for Nate to run a play early to try and get Greg a dunk in the first couple of minutes.

I need to be careful what I post, or the opponents might start assigning an assistant coach to scout Blazers Edge….

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 19, 2008 12:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I pray you only use your powers for good jscot

Go ahead and post your worst "with a trailblazer" photo on your avatar, can you beat mine?

by BlazermaniacAndy on Dec 19, 2008 12:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Here were all of my comments from the game preview:
I predict a close, hard fought victory. Oden will struggle but Pryz will have his back. Richardson will go off but so will the entire Blazer backcourt.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 19, 2008 9:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Confession — I made some other predictions that didn’t quite pan out so well. Something about establishing Brandon as an unstoppable scorer against them. I don’t know what in the world I was thinking on that one.

OK, so I got Brandon and Greg right, not as good otherwise. You were more impressive, though not with quite the same detail that I had on Greg.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Dec 19, 2008 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, predicting that the Blazer backcourt would go off against the Suns backcourt (especially w/Bell traded) wasn’t exactly a stretch.

I also predict Zach Randolph will take a lot of shots the next time the Blazers and Clippers hook up.

Now hand me a gin and tonic and a funny hat, and put me on the Monday night Courtside broadcast. :-)

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 19, 2008 5:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You really went out on a limb

with that Zach prediction.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Dec 20, 2008 2:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude I hate you, my nose bleed seats showed the same ending though

Oh GUnit, wasn’t it magical!?! Here I was, perched atop my post up high trying to think good thoughts while the game ticket down to zero’s. My tooth hurting from the drilling I had done earlier. My heart racing from the action taking place on the court below. I knew that somehow, someway, we were going to pull this off. As I said in my Junky Drawer, this was the Quietest 52 points I have ever seen anyone score. Actually, this is the highest point total I have ever seen in person. Amazing. Let me take my rational cap off as well, this win meant we are for real. Let’s go ahead and hang that 09 Championship banner! (ok, sane cap back on now)
Did anyone catch what Charles Barkley said? No doubt that hater is on our cacahuates now. Roy, oh my gosh, you made me a happy man. And of couse, I went and took the lady our for a nice dinner afterwards, after all, she had never had a Chalupa!

Go ahead and post your worst "with a trailblazer" photo on your avatar, can you beat mine?

by BlazermaniacAndy on Dec 19, 2008 12:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

what did Sir Charles have to say?

I was wondering what he would come up with since this game was definitely not boring!

One team, one dream anybody?

by OneTrickPony on Dec 19, 2008 1:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Blazers don't have any chance to win a playoff series

Their defense was turr-ibel.

Greg Oden is the biggest bust since Kwame Brown. That draft pick was turr-ible.

Things just haven’t been the same since I stopped advertising Old Spice deodorant. I smell turr-ible.

I didn’t actually watch him, I’m just guessing.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 19, 2008 1:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In fact

Chuck said Roy’s performance was the best they’ve ever had on their Thursday TNT lineup. Most of the show was dedicated to a nice human interest story – basically the TNT guys just said ‘No one played any defense’ and ‘Brandon Roy is really good,’ then moved on. They also spent a great deal of time showing/talking about some enthusiastic—and slightly overweight—dancers among the Blazer bleachers.

Basically, I think this shows their priorities were in order. The game spoke for itself.

by samuelleejackson on Dec 19, 2008 1:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

awesome!!

Thanks chuck. The dancring was hilarious. They were cutting back and forth to the evolving dance party and it literally got crazier every time!

One team, one dream anybody?

by OneTrickPony on Dec 19, 2008 1:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Those dancing dudes

were insane, the guy I was sitting with brought his kid and had that “oh my God, do I have to take him out to the concourse before this gets obscen” look on his face

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 19, 2008 9:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck's comment when compared by Kenny to the topless dancers

‘that guy’s only a b-cup – I’ve got double-d’s’ (may be slightly misquoted – I’m working from memory).

by DonkeyShins on Dec 19, 2008 10:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

You actually had me believing all the way till the Old Spice. I imagine it was something along those lines. Probably toss in some bashing for the phoenix defense and the Raja trade since Bell always does a decent job disrupting Brandon’s game.

One team, one dream anybody?

by OneTrickPony on Dec 19, 2008 1:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha !

      Who care what Chuck says ! i’m into what
Dave says !

       COINCAST SUCKS !!!!! GO BLAZERS !!!!!

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Dec 19, 2008 2:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Answer!
Each had 1 assist, but answer me this: How come the Spanish Connection can’t seem to throw an alley-oop to anyone outside of itself?

Because Martell hasn’thad any regular-season possibilities to get lobs from Rudy; when that happens, look out.

"you rock, sir" -prezofdeath
"You can add me to the list of those who think you rock" -Mortimer
"you rock

see above" -Zaron5551

by Sarbonis on Dec 19, 2008 1:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

those are sweet

first one is magnifico

I think I can only add "The NBA, where caring for everybody but the fans happens". --amlmart1

by prezofdeath on Dec 19, 2008 1:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

First one catchs Roy's boyish charm

I agree that the 2nd one doesn’t really look like Roy, but the first one still maintains Roy’s manly boyishness.

I like to cartoon as well (but don’t do caricature’s), and I suggest focusing on Roy’s nose, grin, and his forehead to capture the essence of Roy in drawin’ form.

If we get in trouble with the drawing, just give the pen to Brandon Roy and he’ll take care of everything!

Morty

by Mortimer on Dec 19, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Very nice re-cap, Dave

I kept the game on my DVR, and now I want to watch it again. What a ballgame! And what a player (R-Roy)! Not only did the Blazers beat the bullies, but they beat them when they were well-rested, motivated, and on a tear.

But you know I always have a quibble. In this case, I’m pretty certain I recall Rudy connecting with Roy for an alley-oop. And he tried to do it again tonight—he just threw the pass too high. Fear not: the Spanish connection will become contagious as the rest of the team is exposed to those Spanish subtitles during team movie-watching.

Re/ Diogu, I’ve concluded that he could be a passable Maxsap (until the real thing comes along) if only he wouldn’t try to finish when he gets the ball in close. That’s ALWAYS, ALWAYS disastrous! Get that rebound or deflection and PASS IT OUT OF THERE, Ike. PLEASE!!

"If [Roy & Aldridge] walked around in fur coats, with a bunch of glamour & glitz, we'd have a bunch of guys wearing fur coats. But they don't. They're just good guys who want to win and know how to play the right way." --Kevin Pritchard

by hurryup09 on Dec 19, 2008 1:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised you had the discipline to actually write a recap, Dave

I was just in awe and shock mode. Still am.

Great game, great recap.

I think I can only add "The NBA, where caring for everybody but the fans happens". --amlmart1

by prezofdeath on Dec 19, 2008 1:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

From BrightSideoftheSun:
I blame Porter playing a zone against a hot-shooting team. I dont’ know that much about basketball, but I know that outside shooting can kill a zone. When the points are coming from the backcourt and off jumpers, why are the Suns in a zone?

Why do these lyrics changing Porter with Nate sound always in my mind?

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Dec 19, 2008 1:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

You're crazy!

"There is a difference between having two guys banging down low and having two guys who can bang down low." - Blazin'

by tominhawaii on Dec 19, 2008 3:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You also are always in my mind.

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Dec 19, 2008 3:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love you man

"There is a difference between having two guys banging down low and having two guys who can bang down low." - Blazin'

by tominhawaii on Dec 19, 2008 4:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

what amazed me...

that i just realized was that Nash had as many turnovers (6) as the entire Blazer team!!!!

Boycott Rose Garden Concessions!!!
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/11/8/657044/boycotting-rose-garden-con

by idoltime on Dec 19, 2008 1:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

My “I was actually there to see it” recap at Loaded Orygun

Wow, what a game. I gave the game ball to….Brandon Roy. :)

Roy and Blake—74 points, 15 assists, ZERO turnovers.

by torridjoe on Dec 19, 2008 2:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

16!

Shorted B-Roy a dime…

by torridjoe on Dec 19, 2008 2:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious post from phxsuns.net

“I’m so glad Terry Porter came in and made us a solid defensive team. We’re holding opponents to an average of 110.8 over the last ten games.”

LOL!

by neutroticblazerfan on Dec 19, 2008 2:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I feel like pointing out to them that Terry Porter...

… managed to capitain two Blazer teams to the Finals. Not to knock D’Antonio, but he hasn’t ever sniffed that air, either as a player or a coach.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 19, 2008 9:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That was AWESOME !!!

       I remember watching Clyde’s 50 pt game and this
was bigger because of the opponent & losing streak.
Great job, BRoy. Watch out for the constant double teams !

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Dec 19, 2008 3:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I thought Oden had a better game than his stats say. I loved that last rebound of his.

Boxscore

"There is a difference between having two guys banging down low and having two guys who can bang down low." - Blazin'

by tominhawaii on Dec 19, 2008 3:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We were going crazy in the first quarter before he fouled.

One day….Greg will make the Rose Garden explode.

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 19, 2008 3:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Rose Garden seems quite to me

"There is a difference between having two guys banging down low and having two guys who can bang down low." - Blazin'

by tominhawaii on Dec 19, 2008 4:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

He was active and ready for this game.

He had some dumb fouls, and then some weenie ass lame fouls called by the refs (like the “push off” on Shaq that sent Shaq flying into the stands), but if he hadn’t done the dumb foul then the weenie ass lame fouls called by the refs wouldn’t have mattered.

Oden looked good, though. VERY different from last time he faced Shaq.

I wouldn’t trade Joel for all of my Stars Wars figures, not even Boba Fett.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 19, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome game...regarding IKE

I thought he gave much better interior defense and hustle/rebounding/scrap than Channing Frye, he missed some chippies etc but if he can get under control a bit more offensively then right now I like him off the bench in the 4 spot….of course when martell gets back everything goes out the window and (fingers crossed) super trout will be getting those minutes.

Man how good was it to see Super Trout show up? It has been far too long, Roy had things going well but Trout came in and was almost as unstoppable for a stretch there in the 3rd quarter and that allowed Roy to save a bit more for the 4th…great hustle on the boards as well that grab over J Rich at the end was huge, even Phoenix fans on second look conceded that it was not an over the back, just great leaps and long arms.

That game was specifically why Outlaw has supporters, he and Roy between the two of them took care of the offense there in the second half. And he was making excellent reads on whether to drive or pull up for the J on almost every occasion, too bad that palm got called when he cross’d over barnes and went in and dunked it. That woulda been play of the night

Rooo-D!

by truls on Dec 19, 2008 3:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

amazing

some credit for Outlaw! – Elgin

It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown

by 22baylor on Dec 19, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As good as Brandon was, Trout was the man

Once every four or five games, Super Trout rears his head. This was one of those games.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 19, 2008 5:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oh and I like Ike over CHanning

Even though Ike can’t hit the basket from two feet away, he gives us some much-needed muscle down low.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 19, 2008 5:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ike gives us....

….thud power.

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 19, 2008 8:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

Outlaw contributed, but in this game, I’ve got 52 reasons and a whole lot of intangibles why Brandon Roy was the man!

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Dec 19, 2008 6:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If for only one half

It's all about defense......

by 67 on Dec 19, 2008 11:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great recap Dave....

How we feel about trading rudy?

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 19, 2008 6:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

No way

In a year or two, once he gets used to the NBA, his production is going to be great. Maybe at that point.

Buy low, sell high. If we traded him right now, I don’t think we could get value for him, we would be selling low.

Not a great game for Rudy, but he still contributed, knocking down a couple 3s.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Dec 19, 2008 7:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but he can't throw an ally-op and can only catch them from sergio....

What gives?

Begining rant……

And while I’m complaining, whats with brandon NEVER passing Oden the ball…..EVER!… I remeber maybe 3 total 1 being a pick and roll, despite he and oden ALWAY’S running the pick and roll…..and the other 2 were only becuase brandon didn’t have anyone else to pass the ball to….Is there a “trust” issue between the two of em or something?

Maybe we shiped mc bob off too soon…cuz oden don’t look like he has a friend in the world at the end of the bench doing a finger clap………

grumble grumble, grumble… stagering away from the computer to the coffee machine….

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 19, 2008 8:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

The guy is coming off a full Euro season/Olympics and is adjusting to the NBA schedule/game. Hopefully, he can catch some r&r at some point (I’m sure he’ll play in the Rookie game, but hopefully takes it easy over the break)

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 19, 2008 9:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ike

Didn’t mind seeing no Channing. Ike missed what…3 right under the rim? But still, I liked what I saw. He was using his body, he hustled, didn’t shoot any 3’s either : )

Amazing game to watch.

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Dec 19, 2008 7:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rugged

That’s the word that comes to mind when I think of Ike. Rugged. Even though he missed those chippies, the fact that he got those rebounds in traffic and banging around in there in the first place was like ‘whoa, that was cool’

Hey on a side note how do you guys think Richardson is going to fit in? J-Rich looked really uncomfortable at times and there was one exchange he had with Nash that kind of led me to wonder about potential chemistry issues.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 19, 2008 7:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Remains to be seen

I thought it was a weird trade. If they can learn to play together, it probably helps them.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Dec 19, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What's worse

Ike going 0-3 under the basket or Frye going 0-3 from the three point line? It’s just a matter of time before the Frye haters start hating Ike. Ike isn’t that good.

"There is a difference between having two guys banging down low and having two guys who can bang down low." - Blazin'

by tominhawaii on Dec 19, 2008 7:56 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Ike might not be good.

Actually I dunno, but if he had showed something amazing in practice he probably would have been on the floor prior to last night.

However if we have a second unit PF that can float around the 3 point line and make some J’s vs a guy that can’t shoot at all but is willing to abuse the opponents and collect a few rebounds then the decision at least merits a little thought and some experimenting by Nate. I assume last night was the beginning of the experiment that I wouldn’t mind seeing for at least a few more games. Even if their contributions are a wash, I’d rather see that guy that hustles. It might be infectious.

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Dec 19, 2008 8:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

But I don’t know how much Ike can inspire the team by grabbing rebounds off his own misses. I think we’ll see a lot of 0-3 with 3 rebounds for Ike.

"There is a difference between having two guys banging down low and having two guys who can bang down low." - Blazin'

by tominhawaii on Dec 19, 2008 8:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually the biggest benefit of Ike playing...

is that he wound up sitting at the end of the bench next to Shav…normally Greg’s spot. That forced Greg to sit one spot closer to the rest of the team. Gradually Ike will force Greg further down the bench. Then happiness will burst from between the wrinkles on Greg’s forehead.

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Dec 19, 2008 9:41 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

GOOD OBERSVATION!!!!

This puzzles me, and raises questions in my mellon about greg and the coheasion between he and his team.

rec!!!!

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 19, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it may have been

a match up thing to put a body on Stoudamire….We may see more alternating time here with match ups……..and it may
   give both players motivation to improve their play and work harder…. then how many minutes they get will depend on what they can contribute on the floor…
     the backup 4 position is losing minutes fast, so if either figure on grabbing those minutes back, they will need to show some inspired play soon…..I would think that defense/hustle may be what Nate is looking for….

It's all about defense......

by 67 on Dec 19, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

on all points.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Dec 20, 2008 2:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pinky

I hope Brandon’s finger is ok after all that shooting.

by Sumito on Dec 19, 2008 8:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

All Blazer shooters are being fitted for custom Pinky Splints today.

"Maurice Lucas walked past, and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his playing career, because, "Back then, it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth.""

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 19, 2008 8:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As soon as I catch myself complaining about the refs I stop myself because 9 times out of 10 both

teams are even in the foul department and no 1 call decides the game. If the Blazers take care of business there won’t be any regret that we didn’t get a ref to give us anything.

It’s funny though because some Insidehoops Suns fans were even says that the refs sucked and gave Phoenix some ticky tack fouls. I agree, but it didn’t cost us.

by BRoyInThe4th on Dec 19, 2008 8:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That was a great game. I love that we were able to hang around and take every punch PHX could throw and still beat them. This was about as good an offensive game as PHX could play and we still beat them. This will be a big confidence boost for the team. We haven’t played well against any of the established powers on national tv until now.

Brett Pill - Lord of the double.

by malarky on Dec 19, 2008 8:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I will be happy

when the Blazers can defend better in general, and against perimeter-oriented teams in particular. – Elgin

It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown

by 22baylor on Dec 19, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Where's Ben?

Is he in the hospital after passing out from that phenomenal performance last night?

"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.

by blazermaniac32 on Dec 19, 2008 8:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wow
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There’s your rational analysis.

Best game of the year, playoff atomsphere in December. Matt Barnes will be having B Roy related nightmares for months

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 19, 2008 9:16 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

"Supertrout"? More like Jekyll and Hyde

I know that everyone is on a high from the victory, but there was a crucial stretch in the fourth quarter where Trout heaved up about four or five ridiculously ill-advised shots in a row. Did he pass the ball once the entire time he was in there? I understand why Nate played Trout, because Batum looked lost out there tonight, but still… yes, Trout hit some nice shots, including at least three or four in the Drexler realm (“no, no, no… YES!!!!”), but I am far from anointing him as a savior, or back on track for that matter.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 19, 2008 9:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Superblackhole was awesome in the 3rd

He cooled off in the 4th, but to at least he didn’t take the last shot. He passed to ROY. whew
Trout gives me tummy ache.

by cheapdude on Dec 19, 2008 9:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Outlaw also cost the Blazers 6 points on the defensive end in the 4th

He went completely under a screen allowing a wide open 3 pointer by Barnes in the corner. You can actually see one of the Blazer assistants get mad even before Barnes made the shot. Then around 2 min in the 4th quarter, Outlaw has a brain freeze and doesn’t get back on D to match up with Barnes. You can see Roy yelling at Outlaw to cover his man. Barnes hits another 3 in the corner with Roy running at him. Outlaw must have been confused because the Suns had a cross-match with Barnes on Roy, but the Blazers were matching up Outlaw on Barnes. These are just the little things that make a BIG difference.

This is Outlaw, always will be Outlaw. The best you can hope for game in and game out is just a canceling of dumb bad plays.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Dec 19, 2008 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I remember that, thanks for the painful reminder. He was so aggravating to watch at both ends of the floor, except for when he hit those spectacular shots. Jekyll & Hyde.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 19, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No matter how Outlaw performs

he will never change your mind. Fortunately both Pritchard and McMillian realize his worth. Evidence? Nate plays him a ton during crunch time. Earlier when KP was asked a question about trading Outlaw he said something like “it would have to be for one hell of a player”.

Sure, T-Law makes more mistakes than some. But he also can do things like few can. That’s why he’s in there late in games. He takes a ton of pressure off of Roy.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

by TwoDeep on Dec 19, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, if he stopped heaving up so many ill-advised shots and/or became a proficient passer, he would change my mind.

And I agree, we should get a heck of a player back in exchange for him.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 19, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BRoy is no worse than the 3rd best shooting guard in the NBA - book it.

The TNT announcers were cracking me up. They were trying to compare Roy to the other great shooting guards in the league - OK, yes, we can all agree that DWade and that guy on the Lakers would rate ahead of BRoy, but then… they said Joe Johnson and Manu Ginobili were both better than BRoy, and some other guy that left me scratching my head saying -- WHAAAATTTT?? Are you kidding me? I can understand that it would at least be a subject of debate, especially when you look at their total body of work, but… Who in their right mind would rate Ginobili or Johnson clearly above Brandon Roy?? Are you insane?

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 19, 2008 9:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

A healthy Manu is awesome

But yeah… Roy is heads and shoulders better than Joe Johnson, even though their numbers are similar.

Morty

by Mortimer on Dec 19, 2008 10:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No ref complaints here

Your guys deserved that one….16 to 6 on turnovers will do it and of course Roy was awesome but I think that stretch by Trout really did us in. Grandpa Greg looked good for a few minutes anyway. His O was more then I was expecting. Not the wide open dunks but the hook shoot and post moves (both of them).

On our side – I am thrilled to see how much fun this Suns team is having and how hard they played. Our defensive rotations are for crap right now and again – turnovers. But this is only game 3 of Suns v3.0-2008 so I will take it. And best of all it was FUN FUN FUN.

So that make it what…11 and 1 our favor? I can live with that :) but the gap is closing. See you again in late March. Hopefully the Suns will be settled in and not on v4.0

by Phoenix Stan on Dec 19, 2008 9:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Phoenix Stan – I think the Suns will be well positioned to make a huge playoff run this year. J-Rich is a stud and the emergence of Barnes made Diaw and Bell expendable IMHO - it’s obvious that he hasn’t been integrated into the flow yet on either end of the floor, but when he is, watch out.

I’m thrilled that Roy finally got the monkey off his back, and glad that Oden didn’t turn into a frightened turtle like he did last time we met. The Suns are going to lose some games because of age and lack of depth but, oh man, they will be a hellified, tough tough out in a playoff series. I hope for your sake that TP and the rest of the staff can put the puzzle pieces together and keep the crew fresh next spring.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 19, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Phoenix has a collection of impressive players.

I agree they will be tough.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

by TwoDeep on Dec 19, 2008 4:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

By late March

We’ll be on Greg 3.0, and Martell will be back and assimilated. If you wanted to win the season series, you should have done it tonight. Good luck until then, though, and even after that. I know you are #9 now, but in my book you’ve played the toughest schedule of the Western contenders outside of Portland, and you’ll move up.

If you can't convince them, confuse them -- Harry Truman, U.S. President

by jscot on Dec 19, 2008 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am worried about the Suns rotations

One huge mistake the Blazers have made this year against them is allowing the defense to set and not attacking enough with the pass and cut. Under those terms Phoenix is more than adequate defensively. If you just let Shaq camp and you don’t make anybody else make decisions they can stop you and rebound.

However…

Shaq is not nearly as quick as he used to be. As soon as you make him move around half of his defense goes away. And then who else have you got to come over? Or who do you have to stop that attack against Shaq out on the perimeter before it starts. A’ma’r’e (or whatever it is now) isn’t a committed defender. Jason Richardson isn’t a defender period. Steve Nash? That’s a lot of pressure to put on Matt Barnes. He needs, like, six arms and a Vespa to make it as many places as he’s needed.

I don’t think bad teams will expose the Suns, but good teams, especially in a 7-game series…

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 19, 2008 8:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great recap Dave.

You captured the mood of that game so very well. Loved your B-Roy destroyer comment.

That’s about as excited as I’ve been over a game since our deep playoff runs of the 90’s.

Someone mentioned Greg’s lack of enthusiasm from the bench (finger clapping) and that he needs McBob to lift him up. We saw the same thing from him with McBob on his team in the final four. Whyizit? I don’t know for sure but it doesn’t look like he has an enthusiastic bone in his body (except maybe when he’s dunking).

I’ve not been a Bayless fan but I absolutely loved the celebrating he was doing on the bench and especially that chest bump with Roy after Brandon hit a big 3. Absolutely loved it. I have been concerned all along that Bayless would turn into a sourpuss for having to endure so much bench time and that it might affect the team. If last night was any indication, I was wrong, wrong, wrong. But still, how could you not be excited over what was happening in that game for us (you’ll have to see Greg for an answer to that question).

Brandon Roy has become is a super-star stud of great magnitude!!!!

by TwoDeep on Dec 19, 2008 9:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That didn’t bother me much about Oden. Obviously he was frustrated because he was playing reasonably well against another great center but got whistled for a lot of quick fouls (some were a little ticky tacky but most were rookie mistakes). Praise God that we have Przybilla backing him up, can you imagine how different this team would be defensively if we had to constantly worry about Oden getting in foul trouble.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 19, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm afraid

foul trouble will be plaguing Oden for quite some time…..He really needs a big man tutor to help him with positioning and other fundamentals of the game…..(IMO) this would be a worthwhile investment for the Blazers….I just don’t see much at all from Lucas (great player, smart, but doesn’t seem to assert himself as a teacher)…
   the game needs to be fun and Oden doesn’t seem to be having much…playing more often and playing better could make a big difference……

It's all about defense......

by 67 on Dec 19, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

conley...trade for conley and greg will take a few earbeatings from him and snap out of it....

now how to get memphis to kick down on the kid…..

hopefully project darius fails miserably and they get driven to do anything to get rid of him……(they’d just cut him though right?) …..and we could trade for him, conley and change for raefs dead body and a small fry, n maybe some diogu sauce.

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 19, 2008 11:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe

if we can’t do the unload the dead wood trade, we should get him a puppy to play with while he’s sitting on the pines….

Big man dog therapy

It's all about defense......

by 67 on Dec 19, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

McBob and Oden on same team?

Until they were on the Blazers together, I don’t THINK they ever played on the same team… not even in High School.

McBob went to Duke, not Ohio.

I like Greg’s cheering on the court, and he just isn’t a showy emotion-y guy off it. I hated seeing him always look so damn GLUM when we’re on a run and TNT cuts to him (can’t blame TNT, it’s a funny shot and justaposition), but that’s just Oden.

Bayless has been cheering like that allllll season. He’s always keyed up and being the biggest cheerleader. It is nice to see him and Frye do that though, as they could be sullen and ya couldn’t blame them.

Roy is a Superstar, and this is his year 3 breakout that all superstars have.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 19, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

AAU

honor rasheed wallace

by Zaron5551 on Dec 19, 2008 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Appreciate you pointing out my mistake Morty.

Of course McBob was a Dukie. I apologize for my severe brain cramp. How could I have possibly confused him with Connely.

I dunno about your discourse on Bayless though. Earlier, I’ve seen a lot of sullen moments from him on the bench (maybe it’s just the Bayless face). Our biggest bench cheerleaders have been Frye, Batum and even Joel.

There is just something missing with Oden though. Don’t know for sure what it is, but it’s not there. Lack of energy maybe (you know, all the sleep he requires and the lack of enthusiasm and hustle). I don’t think this bodes well for him to become the great dominant and consistent force you’ve always envisioned him to be. Driving hard every game for 82 games plus playoff’s just doesn’t seem to fit his mental/physical make-up. Maybe it’s just that basketball is not his passion - and at least to me, that seems evident.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

by TwoDeep on Dec 19, 2008 4:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

did we totally wipe out the notion that he maybe does have ...

MONO!!!!

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 20, 2008 9:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Most people say he will be fine

But I think there is also a lot of hope there…..I would venture to guess that many have lowered their expectations of him…not just from his play, but his mannerisms, as well

It's all about defense......

by 67 on Dec 20, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm the someone!!!

(pardon my excitement) but it’s a huge step from idiot….(not that you called me one, but it’s been mentioned once or twice :))

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 20, 2008 8:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon's Best Game

Not only did Roy put the team on is back, he shared the wealth. When he was going off in the third, he also took time to feed Travis and Blake, a mark of a true leader.

I watched Chris Paul play earlier, and I was thinking that the Blazers need to get as fired up for every possession as the Hornets do. I was having severe doubts about the Blazers’ commitment in the second quarter. Bad defense and poor execution. I don’t know what Nate said in the locker room, but the team that arrived in the third was the one I want to see every game.

I have continually nagged Brandon to get his mates involved, and I’ll continue to do that, because a deep playoff run depends upon ball movement and good defense. But last night was an absolute gem of a game for Roy, and I hope he continues to fire up the team like that. Thanks, BRoy.

If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.

by CosmoPlavix on Dec 19, 2008 10:26 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

"he also took time to feed Travis and Blake, a mark of a true leader."

Yes, that’s leadership, but it’s something else too — it’s crossing up the defense. There are these “Brandon Roy takes over the game” moments, like we saw both in the third and fourth quarters, and you can see it happening but I think after about three straight baskets the defense will start collapsing on him. And he can handle two people on him, but not necessarily four. So the next thought has to be for Brandon to draw the defense and dish to somebody else. He did that a bunch of times in the fourth quarter, giving it off to Blake and Outlaw, and it made Brandon twice as hard to stop down the stretch.

by Kaboomm on Dec 19, 2008 4:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A right-on assesment Kaboomm.

But, CosmoPlavix, being worried about Brandon involving his teammates? He’s always been so unselfish. Yeah, he often seems to ignore Rudy. Is that what you are thinking?

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

by TwoDeep on Dec 19, 2008 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ball Movement

I think Brandon’s doing the best he can, but I caurtion the whole team to resist relying on him, alone. When and if they start expecting him to “take over a game,” they’ll be standing around and headed for a loss.

I think Kaboomm says it very well, and it applies to any “star” whose teamates need him to distribute the ball.

If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.

by CosmoPlavix on Dec 20, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.

by CosmoPlavix on Dec 20, 2008 10:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Shorter Rotation

I did like the hustle on the boards from Ike, but he was a huge defensive liability. In the 2nd quarter the Blazers went to a zone where Matt Barnes drained three straight three’s. All three were Ike’s responsibilty. The first one Ike was out of position and was screened in. The second he bit on a cutter, and on the third he was slow to get back. The Blazers lost their lead and fell behind when he was in the game.

Another concern was when Barbosa played the point and Nash was out. The Blazers were outscored by 14 points when this happened? Why? The Blazer point guards cannot guard a quick point guard straight up. They are forced to double team or the defense is broken down with penetration. We need an answer for this problem.

Nate only played 8 players in the second half, something I think we need to do more often in most games. More minutes for Batum, Travis, and Rudy while having either Roy or LA in the game at all times.

by hoopsource on Dec 19, 2008 12:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

22 and 10 and no turnovers

Trade No One. – Elgin

It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown

by 22baylor on Dec 19, 2008 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Highly recommended.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

by TwoDeep on Dec 19, 2008 4:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Roy

I didn’t think it could get any better than the Houston game. I was wrong.

royismoney

by royismoney on Dec 19, 2008 3:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Brandon was insanity out there.

Holy smokes. Brandon was insanity out there. Destroying all.

by CanadianBlazerfan on Dec 19, 2008 6:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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