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Game Recap: Blazers 109, Kings 77

Boxscore

General Observations

This was a nice win, just the way it was supposed to be.  The Blazers did a nice job recovering from a horrendous start to the game.  The Blazers shot poorly out of the gate, got no offensive rebounds, never saw the paint on offense, and defended so horribly that they might as well have just put up cardboard cutouts of themselves.  To give you an idea, the ONE guy you have to guard for Sacramento right now is John Salmons.  With Kevin Martin out he's the go-to guy.  Everybody knows this.  It's in the scouting report.  It's on the chalkboard.  I'm sure the coaching staff did everything but paint a laser target on the guy.  So what happens?  Salmon gets a host of open jumpers plus a couple of weakly-defended drives and ends up scoring 12 of Sacramento's first 14 points.  Naughty, naughty.  This is lump of coal territory.

After that, though, the Blazers tightened up on the Kings and started working the boards.  Plus Brandon Roy did some John-Salmonsing of his own.  The Kings were powerless to stop him and only ended up fouling when they tried.  Roy made a living at the foul line and at the cup off of drives.  Sacramento had to contort so much trying to stop him that they ended up breaking.  Other Blazers got into the act.  By the time the second half rolled around the Kings were ripe for the picking.  They started turning the ball over like it scalded them.  The Blazers starting running out and scoring off the break.  Portland dominated the paint on both ends.  The end result was a 109-77 cakewalk.

The Blazers won this game in a couple ways you'd expect--dominate the boards, dominate at the foul line--plus one you didn't...dominate in points off of turnovers (24-12).  They shot 10% better than the Kings, beat them 12-4 in steals, got 22 assists on 36 buckets.  About the only thing they didn't do was hit the long ball.  It didn't matter much.  This was not a defense which encouraged them to depend on the three-pointer.

Put aside your fears that this team is going to collapse completely.  Keep in mind, though, that the schedule remains tough through the first week of January.  After that expect more blowouts.

Individual Observations

Brandon Roy killed it again out there tonight.  He shot 7-12 from the field and an amazing 15-15 from the foul line en route to 29 points.  He was part of the shaky defense early but eventually came through with 4 steals, which is not exactly defense but shows the effort is there.  Anyone think he shouldn't be an All-Star?

Lamarcus Aldridge shot brutally for the first two-thirds of this game, mainly because he didn't take any shot inside that didn't get blocked.  He was out of it offensively.  To his credit he got 10 rebounds, 4 offensive.  The team made a concerted effort to redeem him later in the game and it worked.  A couple of easy shots later and he was 6-20 for 15 points.

Nicolas Batum turned in a fine, fine effort game and even added some scoring punch.  He hit a couple of threes, 4 shots overall, and notched 12 points to go with 6 rebounds.  He also had a spectacular block.  He lost focus on Salmons somewhat but later regained it and pretty much shut him down.  This was one of Nic's best games.

Greg Oden shot 3-6 including one sick, sick dunk that showed how high he can leap when he gets momentum.  (As I've said a few times, he used to be able to sky nearly that high from a standing start.  Pray that he regains some of that.)  His armpit was pretty much at the level of the rim and he just threw it down.  He ended the game with 8 points and 10 rebounds.  Nevertheless I keep wanting to see more out of Greg, not so much in production but in impact on each play.  He has to stop making it so easy for opponents to guard him.  For one thing he really needs to speed up a bit.  I know he's slowed by the knee a little but he can get up and down the court quicker than he is.  He also needs to use his strength and size to establish position on offense and pound people.  Even if he doesn't get the ball on a particular play he can bruise an opponent by bumping him and carving out territory.  The net result is a tired, bruised defender who really thinks twice before he has anything to do with you.  I'm not suggesting anything illegal here (though if he can learn some tricks, fine by me), just make the defender use energy to keep you contained.

Steve Blake missed both of his threes but hit 4-7 for 8 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds.  Like Roy he had 4 steals.  He did a good job making sure Beno Udrih didn't go off on us for once.  I have a hunch that was circled in the coach's pre-game plan as well.  This was one of the first games we've dominated when Steve wasn't hitting the long ball.

Joel Przybilla was the bench star tonight with 14 rebounds, 7 points, and 3 blocks including a flat-out termination of a John Salmons dunk in the second half.  It was video-game quality and resulted in a fast break and a Lamarcus Aldridge alley-oop finish.  Joel is magical this year.

Rudy Fernandez started out rough but ended up with a bench-high 12 points on 5-9 shooting.  He tried to create more for himself tonight with mixed results.  Nobody finishes that Sergio alley-oop better though.

Speaking of Sergio, he was really good passing (natch) and helped break the game open.  He had 5 assists and 3 rebounds. He couldn't hit a shot though and had 2 turnovers in 16 minutes.

Travis Outlaw got 4 rebounds but his offensive night was...forgettable.

Channing Frye and Jerryd Bayless each got 8 garbage time minutes while Ike Diogu got 6.  The highlights were a soaring Bayless dunk and Channing's 3 personal fouls in that 8 minutes.

Final Thoughts

This was short and simple tonight but you all know we're waiting for the real goods:  Ben's report on Honor Terry Porter night at the Garden!

Check out the Kings' woes at SactownRoyalty.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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it's crucial

that i give a big shout out to the fine folks at sports look in hillsboro for letting me and my pals stick around through to the final whistle, even with all the snow and ice.

go blazies!

michelle you look good tonight.. ANYTHING IS POSSIBAAAAAAAAAAL!

by hossticles on Dec 16, 2008 11:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm
Travis Outlaw got 4 rebounds but his offensive night was…[is] forgettable.

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by lanepete on Dec 16, 2008 11:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I was SO GONNA WRITE THAT

seriously

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 16, 2008 11:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BOO Ya.

;)

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by lanepete on Dec 17, 2008 12:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Be nice

The man has a buttock contusion.

by DonkeyShins on Dec 17, 2008 8:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone want to see someting funny, scroll through the open threads and you can tell the exact moment that Travis enters the game by the

100 “oh NO here come Mr. Negative Per " and "Oh great watch the lead go buh bye”

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 16, 2008 11:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

u write the negative PER stuff lol

=)

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by lanepete on Dec 17, 2008 12:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i think you go too far

when travis shoots do you want the ball to go in? i root for every single player on the team.

it’s getting to the point now where there are little cliques that don’t like outlaw, don’t like frye, don’t like lamarcus, don’t like blake, don’t like oden, don’t like nate…..and this is when the team is playing well.

ignacio

by ignacio on Dec 17, 2008 12:23 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

sure thing

however as fans we have a right to criticize and have favorites. I mean i like outlaw as a person, and thats the hardest part for me to not like him. But when your paid millions, u can be criticized. The truth is, he is a volume shooter, and our team is not fit for a volume shooter, we need ball movement, hustle, and defense…something travis does not excel in.

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by lanepete on Dec 17, 2008 12:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And on the inverse

 u get pockets of FAnboys, which is completely normal. However, i believe i speak for everyone when i say, when we win, who cares. Outlaw can be the worse person on the court for 48 minutes, but if we get the W, no one remembers it a week later.

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by lanepete on Dec 17, 2008 12:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah it's just Travis.. I love him but I cant stand how stupid he plays sometimes.

He is not good when he drives to the basket. He has tunnel vision in that he often tries to create for himself when it would be beneficial to pass to a teammate for a wide open Jumper or something. He never hustles back on defense , he only watches the ball on defense and he often times gets lost and wrecks the whole defensive set. His man to man D is OK when he’s trying but when in the zone he is completely exposed and usually the team pays for it

. He is a perfect role player. James Jones type role player. He is a great guy and by all accounts the locker room loves him so he needs to stick himself in the corner or strait jumper off another player’s drive and leave it at that. Everything else causes more problems than is necessary. He also doesn’t seem content to accept his role.

As for Channing , he’s in deep in the dog house so that explains that.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 12:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love the team.

Doesn’t mean I have to love everything every player does.

The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.

by OneTrickPony on Dec 17, 2008 12:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

rec for ignacio

Really, we get a blowout win and people choose that time to bash on Travis for a poor game, when he’s carrying an injury?

Sorry, that’s not cool. We’re very thin at the 3 right now, Nic has been struggling recently. We got nothing at the 3 in the last game when Travis was out. He put himself out there when he was hurting, as did Nic and Brandon, and those guys are the heroes this game.

Save the Travis bashing for another day.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 17, 2008 1:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

OK Travis had an EXCELLENT game! He made EVERY shot and played SUPERB defense… WOW we are A MUCH BETTER TEAM when he is on the floor.

It’s not bashing we do mr scot it’s the truth.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 1:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that. And Im often the first to point out that Batum has had a bad game

or thought he needs to be out of a game when he has played to the team’s detriment . he has had some bad games in which the Blazers won and I still called him out.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 1:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, I just think we all have the right to like whomever we please

and write whatever we want as long as it’s within the rules that Dave has made for the site. Travis did some silly and annoyingly familiar things tonight. It’s not like tonight’s mistakes were new , he repeats them , often and I was simply pointing out that people are noticing this.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 1:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You have the RIGHT

but it doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do.

Nobody is telling you to like Travis, or lie about his performance. It is just the wrong time to bash him.

People have been noticing it, and there’s nothing wrong with that. But you lay off when a guy goes out there hurting for the good of the team. Give it a rest for a game.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 17, 2008 2:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL nah, I wont

I would not like to see Travis on this team . I according to Ignacio am a member of the “i hate travis” click and you evidently are a member of the "I <3 Travis " click.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I <3 all of our players

as long as they are with us.

And I’ll like Travis even when he’s gone.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 17, 2008 10:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just as we have the right to say what we want in response to

comments like these.

Any idiot can be critical. It takes a little thought to find something to praise in an otherwise unnoteworthy performance. Dave comments on the rebounds – something we all want to see more of out of Travis – and leaves his shooting as forgettable. As in – don’t linger on it, don’t pick him to pieces on it, just move on.

Some folks can’t. That’s fine. But don’t expect us to admire your analysis. (Which is a bit of a surprise, as you are usually better than this.)

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 17, 2008 6:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

so your calling me an idiot now?

Thanks A LOT Tim!

I’ll just go cry my mascara off now :(

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

make sure you wash afterwards

that running mascara just doesn’t work for girls.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 17, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would never call you an idiot.

Nor refer to you as a blond.

I was only trying to point out that you risk comparison to the real idiots when you act like them. I should know, as I often having acting like an idiot down so good that one would think I slept at a Holiday Inn every night.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 17, 2008 1:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wait...

is that a bad place to sleep? hmmm maybe I should change my hotel reservations while i’m in town.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 17, 2008 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You will always be

reprimanded by the Be blog police, if you don’t say nice things about the players….they have elected themselves as the defenders of the players…It’s too bad they cannot translate some of their well guarded and well defended BE energy out on the basketball floor…..
    Although the Blazer’s did show some pretty decent defense after the first quarter last night

It's all about defense......

by 67 on Dec 17, 2008 9:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, that's not true

I didn’t object to criticism of Travis in general, and there’s been a lot of it that I never responded to.

But I, for one, appreciate a guy who plays hurt, especially when we are thin at his position right now. And since we don’t know how much impact the injury had on his play, it just doesn’t seem the time.

Criticize him for his poor play when he’s healthy, please.

You actually sound like you are doing some blog policing here, criticizing the way the alleged “blog police” post. The fact is, there is nothing wrong with criticizing someone else’s posting, you’ve just done it, too. No harm in that, whether you do it, I do it, or Sophia does. What matters is the substance of the criticism, and whether it is well-founded or not.

Don’t criticize me for criticizing, that’s hypocritical. Rather, if my criticism does not have a good basis in fact, criticize it. Then, we have something to discuss.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 17, 2008 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

HAHA

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 12:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i feel dizzy.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 17, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can I just plead guilty ?

(to whatever you said)..no sense in wasting taxpayers money on a trial..
    feel like taking the road to humility anyway…..(less traveled, and you meets lots of good people)…….

It's all about defense......

by 67 on Dec 17, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I do that sometimes

Throw out enough words and the other guy surrenders.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 17, 2008 10:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not only that, but we are going to be issued a badge and a gun.

Well, maybe not a gun. But a badge. And maybe a whistle. And I’m really, really hoping we get a secret decoding ring.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 17, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He did play hurt. I will give him that.

The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.

by OneTrickPony on Dec 17, 2008 1:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some folks just can't help demonstrating ...

… what basketball experts they are.

At least we can give lanepete credit for recognizing that the win is the important thing.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 17, 2008 6:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I could have sworn I saw you at the game yesterday, but if it wasn’t I was reminding myself that whenever Travis would screw up that you’d be laughing like a sinister somewhere.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Dec 17, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Dave, just watchin your back
They shot 10% better than the kinds, beat them 12-4 in steals, got 22 assists on 36 buckets

kinds = Kings, I assume?

Great game tonight. I loved that dunk by Oden. If he can just regain his ’07 Summer League athleticism… sigh. I watched the youtube of Summer League and he was unreal. So quick.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 16, 2008 11:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

They shot 10% better than the kids...

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Dec 17, 2008 12:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

Fixed.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 17, 2008 12:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

I really hate to nitpick. I just know I’d hate it if I was about to eat a cheeto and no one told me there was a booger on it.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 17, 2008 1:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

espn highlights up

and they called lottery draft pick rex “gerald.”

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=281216022

michelle you look good tonight.. ANYTHING IS POSSIBAAAAAAAAAAL!

by hossticles on Dec 17, 2008 12:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Unusual Bayless Face


(AP Photo/Greg Wahl-Stephens)

by Norsktroll on Dec 17, 2008 12:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

however u if u look at espn highlights

after he dunks it, he has the bayless face on.

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by lanepete on Dec 17, 2008 12:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like

he’s debating whether to tear into that basket and back board with a pull up and his teeth or just rip it down with his tremendous rex strength and weight.

Our Rex may be a philosopher.

Also… he named his guns?

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 17, 2008 11:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He has that in common with Mayo

He also has a fairly large one on his back. And the ones on the arms seem to be newer, since I couldn’t see them on older photos from 2007. Interesting that he chose areas that are not too obvious. Arizona

by Norsktroll on Dec 17, 2008 2:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else

think Steve Blake looked pissed when Batum shot that last three as time expired? I bet the rook got some talking to in the locker room.

"Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live." - Anthony Johnson

by jamon51 on Dec 17, 2008 12:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Got talked to by Pritchard

A friend who was at the game said Pritchard started talking to him when he was walking into the tunnel, mouthing “no, no, no” but then “it’s ok”.

He’s still learning! Maybe that’s just how they do it in France.

by Liface on Dec 17, 2008 12:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The TV cameras

showed both Blake and Roy shaking their heads.

Silly play, but he’s young.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 17, 2008 1:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Blake missed 4 free throws down the stretch of a totally winable game

Im STILL shaking my head.

Silly play, but he’s a vet…

Sophia

(Blake and me meet on the street, it’s going down! >:- ( )

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 1:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you really think there is anybody in the world ...

… that bothers more than Steve Blake?

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 17, 2008 6:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont really understand the question,

but for the record I was kidding. Nic taking that shot was totally silly but I wanted to deflect some of the NEGATIVE COMMENTS on this thread about Nic . I just cant stand when people type bad things about a player , especially when we get a win!!

;-)

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't always tell.

Although the last part had me leaning towards joke.

What I meant above was that Steve Blake was (I’m thinking he’s put it behiind him by now) bothered by missing those FT’s more than anyone else. Certainly more than any Blazer fan. He knows he cost his team a win.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 17, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he is very hard on himself

i agree. And I’m over that game.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 2:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, come off it

People have a right to criticize players here. You blog police are all the same.

Don’t people realize Nic was playing hurt?

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 17, 2008 10:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just once he wanted to be like Roy and T-Mac :)

Batum dribbles, and he takes the shot as the clock expires…

by Norsktroll on Dec 17, 2008 1:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

when did the shot occur?

i dont seem to remember that play.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Dec 17, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

3 days rest was just what the doctor ordered

The PHX game is a big one. I feel pretty good about our chances.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 17, 2008 12:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yup

You could tell the boys were tired the last three games. Rest is EXACTLY what they needed. That and some home time and practice.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 17, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LO's recap is up

Thanks for reading; my humble analysis is over at Loaded Orygun

I gave the game ball to Batum, but really everybody did the little things tonight. A great team win, and a confidence booster that should prove to them that if you go hard, get your foul shots and MAKE them, and chase the ball, you’ll probably win even if you can’t hit diddly from the field for long stretchs. Great win. Bring those Suns in, TP!

by torridjoe on Dec 17, 2008 12:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

ecch

“stretches”

by torridjoe on Dec 17, 2008 12:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

About Batum and the 3

I honestly think he didn’t realize he would get the shot off in time. It’s not like he went up for a jam or something , he just did it as reflex . Sure Steve looked mad, shakin his head but Steve LOST A GAME FOR US so he can just go somewhere with his bad attitude..
>:(

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 12:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

it was just a matter of basketball etiquette

since hes so young and from france i think the kings would understand

ignacio

by ignacio on Dec 17, 2008 12:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Since he's from France

I think we let that one pass…

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2008 1:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I honestly think not pouring it on right before the buzzer is universal. I’ll let it slide, rookie mistake!

The Jinx Effect...a Mike Rice specialty.

by OneTrickPony on Dec 17, 2008 1:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great!

The one game the Blazers actually force turnovers and run the fast break, I miss most of it. This is a nice win to bounce back. Sacramento is just terrible and tired. The freaking Blazers outran them. Hope they can run a half-court offense against the Suns.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Dec 17, 2008 1:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oh and before I forget

I caught the last 5 minutes of the game. Bayless got the ball in the corner semi-open for a 3 pointer. Instead of chucking it up like every other Blazer not named Roy, he instinctively drove to the hoop for a layup. He missed, but it was a good shot. Conversely I saw Sergio receive a pass to the wing from Bayless for a open 3 pointer, Sergio passed up on the shot and drove to the free throw line to pass it back out again. Those two plays symbolizes the difference between Bayless and Blake/Sergio.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Dec 17, 2008 1:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m looking forward to Bayless plugging into this rotation. Might happen later this year, might happen next year, but he’ll be starting 2 years from now, and instead of griping about the starting PG, people will be talking about the weakness of our 3rd string center….

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 17, 2008 2:08 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec

Of course somethings will stay consistent. They will still be saying Nate sucks as a coach.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 17, 2008 7:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably

and people likely have some good points to gripe about, but you can gripe about ANY coach. It’s easier to be the back seat driver than the guy driving on the ice in a white out.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 17, 2008 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

in 3 years

we’ll still be complaining about our soft PFs

by cheapdude on Dec 17, 2008 7:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

KP is going to be drafting backup PFs with all 572 of his second round picks, and one of them will turn into Millsap.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 17, 2008 8:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

572?

KP only needs one or two shots at it.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 17, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, yeah?

Well, then what do YOU think he’s going to do with the other 569 second round picks?

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 17, 2008 10:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Roy was just incredible again.

Teams simply cannot stop him. He’s quickly moving into the Bryant, James and Wade category. I’m just amazed by not only what he can do but also by what he actually does … nearly every game. He is a big time star, period! I remember all the talk about him not being all that athletic, or fast enough to be good on the break. All that is just completely wrong.

Finally, finally, finally we were running in transition. I’ll repeat, this team is built to push the ball and run, run, run. Just do it ….. or at least try …. every game.

Oden get’s more kudos per good play (which are relatively few) than almost any player in the league I feel, but most seem to turn their heads regarding the soooo many things he does wrong. Can we be a little more objective here? He doesn’t even approach Joel’s level of overall effectiveness.

While on the subject of Pryz, does anyone else see that his hands have “softened”. He’s doing an excellent job at receiving passes in traffic and I think the big difference is that he is getting his shot up so quickly (and looking at his shooting percentage, obviously efficiently) with a variety of shots with both hands. I’m impressed at his progress in this area. Again, I think it’s simply wrong to state that when he’s in the game we are playing 4 on 5 offensively. IMO we should be feeding him more.

by TwoDeep on Dec 17, 2008 9:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Joel is much improved

Greg isn’t starting because he’s better than Joel. That’s not the point. The point is that they have made an assessment that Greg will be better, and will be the legit starter, and probably by the end of the year (KP said about 40 games). So if he’s going to be the starter when we hit the playoffs, he ought to be working on playing together with the other starters now.

Notice that, except for a few games after Joel’s ankle tweak, Joel is generally getting as many minutes as Greg.

The reason Greg generates so much excitement for those good plays is because people have been waiting over a year to see those plays, and they are a window on the future. Everyone sees all the problems — and they are all problems that actually won’t be that hard to correct. Nobody says that he’s anything other than a raw talent.

But make no mistake, as raw as he is, he is already as effective a rebounder as Joel. That is amazing when you think about it. His technique doesn’t compare to Joel’s, his conditioning doesn’t compare, and yet generally he’s scooping up rebounds at the same rate as Joel. That gives you an indication of what he’s going to be. I think he’s going to average between 15-20 rebounds per game in 2-3 years. What is this kid going to be when he actually learns to play the NBA game?

And yes, you are absolutely correct about Joel’s offensive improvement. Somebody was really working hard over the summer, and it shows. He’s come a long, long way in the last two years.

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by jscot on Dec 17, 2008 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree about it all!!

Pryz’ hands have softened! He’s playing great! As much as I have awaited Oden, I am happy to see Pryz come on the court!

As far as Roy- as of last week, he was averaging 20.9 ppg. After yesterdays game, he is up to 22.0 ppg. The thing that impressed me last week about the 20 ppg is that it comes off consistant scoring nights. Night in and night out he is putting up those numbers. It’s not so much off of 40 point games tempered by 10 point games. What impresses me more about this is that in the beginning of the season he stated his main goal was consistency— posting good numbers every night. Now that he has put some 30 ppg efforts up his avg is up to 22.0, which reflects slightly better his impact on the game.

BRoy is a samurai on the court— not wasting excessive energy. He’s like Larry Bird in that mentally he is there before you. Ray Lewis, not the fastest guy on the field, but there before you. The difference on the side of Roy is tho, he does have the ability to turn it on at select times and elevate above you, rocket past you and use either hand while finishing. Fantastic. He is outright beating almost everyone on the court mentally throughout the course of a game, especially in the 4th qtr. I think he deserves some cred for that!

"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."

by loyal_blazer on Dec 17, 2008 10:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The "unfair" criticism of Travis Outlaw and the nitpicking of a win.

I have been a fan of the Blazers since the early 80’s. Ultimately, the goal is for the team to win a championship. I look at all shots, passes, defensive play, not necessarily for the result but for sound basketball play and IQ. I don’t care so much if the shot went in, I care more about wether or not it was a good shot. I don’t care if a player drops an excellent pass out of bounds, the passer gets credit for an excellent pass. To win a championship your players need to exhibit hard, skilled, smart and unselfish play. Unfortunately, Travis has none of these. I would give him skilled play, but the only thing he can really do at a decent level is elevate above other players for a shot. Unfortunately, hops are probably something he was born with, so him developing this on his own I cannot give credit for,

He is the most likely player on the team to:
-Throw up a horrible shot, either ill-advised, out of rhythm, off balance, or flat out unmakable. I do not care if they go in, they are bad shots.
-Have no clue how much time is on the shot clock. I have never seen a player do the things he does over the years and never learn how to keep the shot clock in his mind. He’s either get the ball with short seconds left and not know he needs to quickly get rid of it…or he’ll literally spend 10 secs of the clock and have it expire 2-3 seconds after the clock goes off. Even then he’s reacting to the sound of the clock.
-Step out of bounds constantly when he’s near the baseline or side of court. He has no idea where the floor is.
-Blow defensive assignments over and over.
-Try to make-up for one of his horrible shots, turnovers, shot clock violations by playing out of control on the defensive end and quickly giving up a foul, compunding the problem he started in the first place.
-Tunnel vision. He has no clue if someone else could be open when he is driving to the hoop. 8 out of 10 times he touches the ball he is going to rush toward the hoop for one of his previously mentioned horrible shots. We all know he’s going up with it and any team in a 7 game series will eventually too— resulting in steals and blocks that we will never learn are coming.
-Lack of improvement. Everyone says he is behind the learning curve for most players. He is 4-5 years in the league and as stated over the summer he is barely picking up HS level basketball skills.

All of the previous are signs of an individual with an extremely low BBALL IQ. This characterisitic my friends will result in a BLOWN championship, not a won championship. He has not shown a significant improvment and is proving when it comes to Travis, “you can’t fix stupid.”

If you do not believe it, watch a game and focus on him opposed to where the ball/play is. Grab some popcorn, if it did not drive me up a wall it would be comedy!

As for picking on the rest of the team, we are happy with the 30 point win— very enjoyable to watch. We also know that this 30 point will also not win the Blazers a championship. Every game, win or loss there can and should be progress made to improve the situation. There are many levels to go up to become championship calibur.

In my childhood being a big Clyde Drexler fan, I was blinded by the high flying dunks and flashy play. Now that I am older I see blown defensive plays and have heard about his lackluster desire to work hard and improve. I think back to think what if my previously favorite player worked as hard as coaches would have liked and learn to see the court when he dribbled instead of staring at the ground to see where the ball was hitting— could I have maybe seen the Blazers go that 1 level higher and actually put hang another banner up in the Garden? Probably!

"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."

by loyal_blazer on Dec 17, 2008 10:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

well stated

and I don’t hate Outlaw because I think he has a decent role he can fill right now, but you point out the reasons why I never want him as a starter for our team and why I’m not attached to him for our future.

He has the work ethic, but the natural “feel” and IQ don’t seem to be there like other players. The only hesitation I’ve had about outlaw is his connection to Roy and Aldridge (and Roy last year) and whether the loss of his personality would hurt the team.

That said, I hope he is traded and THRIVES for another team, because I think he can do some things amazingly well and on another team with minutes he could really shine.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 17, 2008 11:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is their a video of Przybilla's block on Salmons anywhere?

which lead to LA alley other end?

"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."

by bowdown on Dec 17, 2008 11:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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