Today's Poll -- Reggie Theus Canned Edition
by Ben Golliver on Dec 15, 2008 10:56 AM PST
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According to Marc Stein, Sacramento just gave Hang Time Boss the heave ho. Assistant Kenny Natt will take over immediately. Brutal.
The worst part is that Portland now has to deal with the dreaded "First Second game played under a new coach, so we will actually try really, really hard" bounce that seems to constantly pop up after bad teams fire their coaches.
Vote first. Then let's discuss this firing and the Cheeks firing in the comments.
Update: Tom Ziller with a very astute observation (his specialty) regarding the fact today was day #1 on the job for Kevin Martin's ex-agent, who was recently hired as Kings Assistant GM...
Today was Jason Levien's first day. Assuming he started at 9 and it took, oh, 15 minutes for Woj/Amick to get the news, that means Theus lasted only 45 minutes into Levien's Sacramento career.
He traces the discontent between Kevin Martin and Reggie Theus. Another case where it appears the star won out over the coach. Brutal.
-- Ben
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we denied the raptors their new coach bounce, right? Or am I mistaken? Didn’t we deny one team that bounce this year?
that was their first home game
if you are referring to the Raptors when we beat them…
Every child must be encouraged to get as much education as he has the ability to take. We want this not only for his sake-but for the nation's sake. Nothing matters more to the future of our country: not military preparations-for armed might is worthless if we lack the brain power to build a world of peace; not our productive economy-for we cannot sustain growth without trained manpower; not our democratic system of government-for freedom is fragile if citizens are ignorant.
-President Lyndon B. Johnson
Just because
You dress Sarah Palin up in 250,000 dollars worth of clothes…
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
dude come on she was the hottest vice presidential candidate EVER! Right next to Lieberman of course
Go ahead and post your worst "with a trailblazer" photo on your avatar, can you beat mine?
by BlazermaniacAndy on Dec 15, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Okay, here's the link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Herseth_Sandlin
By the way, Congresswoman Stephanie Herseth Sandlin isn’t necessarily gorgeous by most folks’ standards; instead, she fits the definition of cute. Of course, there doesn’t appear to be too many physically beautiful female politicans in either the U.S. House of Representatives or the U.S. Senate.
That’s just my opinion, though.
Don't try to backtrack now!
YOU JUST SAID she is the epitome of beautificality and if she would accept your hand in marriage you would be the happiest AK1984 this world has ever known.
Not only does her beauty rival that of any known supermodel from now or from our thousands of years of history (you said), the cure for cancer can be found within her smile.
Plus (and these are your words, not mine) she has a cute laugh.
And now you’re gonna backtrack and say you didn’t mean that? Wow, man… wow.
Mortimer
Hee hee
I just checked the wiki page, and decided you just like her cause she has the same haircut that you have… a haircut you have been ridiculed and penalized for your whole adult working life.
MID-SHOULDER LENGTH HAIR HAVERS UNITE!
No, she’s cute, especially for a politician. I’d filibust her legislation any day when we are in session! HEEEYY OHHH.
Ok, I’ll go away now. I apologize.
Mortimer
Whoa, dude, there may actually be a subconscious bias here on my part, for ...
her hairstyle is strikingly similar to mine. That’s kind of odd having thought about it.
She meets my standard for cute.
I’d go so far as to say she’s more my type than Palin. But then I’ve always liked cute.
hakkaa päälle !
Sac's first game under Natt is Monday vs. Minnesota
So the Blazers face them in Natt’s 2nd game. I’m more worried about John Salmons (and Kevin Martin if he’s back) than Kenny Natt.
Boomshakalaka
epic fail on my part…. thanks jksnake will edit…
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by Ben Golliver on Dec 15, 2008 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
nope. no edit.
leave up the mistake for the world to see! LoL
Every child must be encouraged to get as much education as he has the ability to take. We want this not only for his sake-but for the nation's sake. Nothing matters more to the future of our country: not military preparations-for armed might is worthless if we lack the brain power to build a world of peace; not our productive economy-for we cannot sustain growth without trained manpower; not our democratic system of government-for freedom is fragile if citizens are ignorant.
-President Lyndon B. Johnson
these are the situations that strikethrough was invented :)
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by Ben Golliver on Dec 15, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
good point.
touche!
Every child must be encouraged to get as much education as he has the ability to take. We want this not only for his sake-but for the nation's sake. Nothing matters more to the future of our country: not military preparations-for armed might is worthless if we lack the brain power to build a world of peace; not our productive economy-for we cannot sustain growth without trained manpower; not our democratic system of government-for freedom is fragile if citizens are ignorant.
-President Lyndon B. Johnson
I got wrote up for three things prior to being fired, with my hairstyle being only one of them.
Oddly enough, though, one of the two other things that led to my canning dealt me standing up against ethnocentrism.
One time when I was working as a cashier in the checkout lines, there was a fat, middle-aged lady who flat-out asked me why there was a Spanish language option on the credit/debit card machine. In response, I told here that there’s a fair amount of Spanish customers who come in and aren’t too well-versed with English. At that point, this dumb broad went on a rant about how English is the official language of the United States of America and how foreigners who move here from other countries should either learn it or go home. Yet, unfortunately for me, my smartass self replyed that, in fact, there’s no official language of any kind throughout America. As a result, she went to the service desk and complained to my manager about my rudeness and all that crap. That, by the way, was the final straw for management, although I blame my hairstyle — which’d been an ongoing issue at the time — to be the main cause of my demise.
Lastly, the first time I got wrote up was for once not calling in sick prior to the start of my shift.
On a side note, I was let go from 7-Eleven purely for laziness. I’m 100% at fault for that failure.
40 votes and only 3 comments thus far
share the opinions too ppl! I dont’ think we have anything more to worry about than we did yesterday. Go Blazers!!
Every child must be encouraged to get as much education as he has the ability to take. We want this not only for his sake-but for the nation's sake. Nothing matters more to the future of our country: not military preparations-for armed might is worthless if we lack the brain power to build a world of peace; not our productive economy-for we cannot sustain growth without trained manpower; not our democratic system of government-for freedom is fragile if citizens are ignorant.
-President Lyndon B. Johnson
Vote Sarah Palin!
for next coach of Sactown!
“you gotta get in there, you know, and guard that big guy in there. Jeepers, he’s doin whatever he wants there, and we just can’t have that.”
by LicketyBrindle on Dec 15, 2008 11:09 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Tsk Tsk Ben
just because you dress up a pig in a new skirt, it’s still a pig.
Since we are talking about MALE coaches here, how about dressing that Pig in a suit or a new tie …
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
What's all this talk about dressing up pigs?
Sarah Palin is no pig. As pointed out above, she’s easily one of the most attractive candidates we’ve seen in awhile.
As as for Theus, he’s so good looking even straight guys think he’s hot.
hakkaa päälle !
NEWSFLASH: The Lipstick on a Pig saying was used BEFORE Sarah Palin , was sexist before Sarah Palin
will be used often in ways wholly unconnected with Sarah Palin and wil remain to be sexist after Sarah Palin.
WikiPig Origiins traced to biblical times…
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Y'know, gender discrimination (i.e., sexism) is a two-way street.
"I’d like to add that I’ve dealt with actual gender discrimination in my life.
From October of 2001 through June of 2003, I worked as a sales associate at the K-Mart in Marysville, Wash. It was a dull, low-paying job I had during my final two years of high school, which constituted working roughly 20 hours per week doing menial tasks like cashiering, stocking shelves, corralling carts, et cetera.
In the end, though, I was ultimately fired from there in part due to growing out my hair beyond the length deemed acceptable for male employees; that went against the personal appearance clause within the code of conduct. As far as I’m concerned, however, it was a lesson for me in how sexism goes both ways."
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/12/11/690114/gameday-open-thread-blazer#10654140
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/12/11/690114/gameday-open-thread-blazer#10654140
Words, moreover, are nominal in nature and lack true meaning, while actions are tangible things.
It’s very unfortunate that more human beings seemingly don’t understand that simple fact, though.
Yet, as it is, I’m severely offended that some folks like to use the term sexism in a flippant manner.
Can you NOT take a joke? Lets not throw this thread completely OT
Seriously, I have read your unfortunate bout w/ gender discrimination/violatingworkplacerules the first AND second time you posted so I cannot understand the reason you feel that I need to read it AGAIN!
Seriously, if you want to get into a debate about the history, victims and implications of sexism I would be very happy to oblige however not here, email me your opening statement.
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 15, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Look, without a doubt, you're correct that I rely too much on that one anecdote of mine.
At any rate, though, I’ve only got a few points to make on this topic — which honestly isn’t in my wheelhouse — with those being that I can take a joke, actions speak much louder than words (or lame idioms), and countless individuals of both genders have dealt with various forms of discrimination.
All things considered, I just wish that more folks could see stuff through the eyes of others.
Sophia can complain about you going back to that anecdote again and again...
but that’s your bread and butter, baby.
Sophia complaining about you repeating your one story is like all the Spanish fans complaining about Roy isos at the end of games. Mike Rice defended them on Courtside tonight. I’m defending you here on BlazersEdge. I’m not Mike Rice, but I like to think I have some of his personality traits and innate alcoholism (plus we both like to play tennis).
Here’s my point: If it ain’t broken, don’t try to fix it. Or ride the horse that got you here. Keep using that anecdote if it’s the best thing you got. Don’t switch it up just to appease people.
"Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 11:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
this really isn’t my business…
but you wrote “fired from there in part due”….
what was the other part? sorry, just curious….
by Ben Golliver on Dec 15, 2008 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
My reply to this comment was accidentally placed in a different thread above this one.
I’m occasionally a moron, though, so stupid mistakes like that are to be expected from me.
by AK1984 on Dec 15, 2008 11:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
maybe that's why you got canned
Go Sonics! (I can say that now right? BennettStern is a joke.)
"Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
Cool
and I meant to say JK after “maybe that’s why you got canned”.
It’s not funny to joke about people losing their job. Especially right now. Not funny and I apologize if I crossed the line.
"Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 16, 2008 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
In my mind, there's only a few crossable lines. Words are words, y'know.
For example, I’ve got a mentally challenged sister; yet, despite that fact, I still use the slang term retarded on occasion. Frankly, it’s not easy to offend me.
Yet, unlike mere words, bigoted actions and intolerant beliefs are appalling.
What does your sister do all day?
And are people like that always happy? Them seem mostly happy and probably don’t understand the bad things about the world, right?
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 16, 2008 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, my sister isn't happy most of the time.
Anyhow, here’s some info on her genetic disorder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prader-Willi_syndrome
Some folks are dealt better hands than others, but that’s life.
As a fairly average guy, it’s remarkably odd that I’ve got a successful brother and a retarded sister — who, for whatever it’s worth, are both younger than me — yet, I think it all gives me a unique, well-rounded perspective on life.
Hey, we have at least something in common.
I’m also occassionally a moron. However my stupid mistakes are usually unexpected.
hakkaa päälle !
no, we don't.
Oden/Pryz
LMA/Frye
WebFoot/Trout
Roy/Rudy
Blake/Bayless
**Champs 08-09**
by BigCelPhone on Dec 15, 2008 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Reggie is damn fine
He is 1/2 way between Derek Jeter & Alex Rodriguez
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
thought I would join in the objectification of humans for a bit
:)
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
it's OK to do that
if it is for the edification of all.
For example, I think that everyone should know that this year’s PMOY is completely hot.
This is a notification that works out to the benefit of everyone. – Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
You can put lipstick on a comatose sheep, but Oregon State is still going to revoke your season tickets once this story hits the tabloids.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
This elicited a literal "LoL"
Go Ducks!!
Every child must be encouraged to get as much education as he has the ability to take. We want this not only for his sake-but for the nation's sake. Nothing matters more to the future of our country: not military preparations-for armed might is worthless if we lack the brain power to build a world of peace; not our productive economy-for we cannot sustain growth without trained manpower; not our democratic system of government-for freedom is fragile if citizens are ignorant.
-President Lyndon B. Johnson
I bet Dave has some good comatose/sheep/lipstick stories living over in Idaho...
Hopefully he shares them some time.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
PS. That Civil War was one of the sexiest games this decade (right up there with the Fiesta Bowl, USC last season, and etc.)
Did they beat us the past two seasons? Sure. But we weren’t playing for our first Rose Bowl in a generation and they’ve never put up 65 points.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
it was very sweet indeed...
Plus Oregon got probably the best non-bcs bowl game there is!
That’s going to be a great one…i’ve got the over/under @ 95 !!!
Every child must be encouraged to get as much education as he has the ability to take. We want this not only for his sake-but for the nation's sake. Nothing matters more to the future of our country: not military preparations-for armed might is worthless if we lack the brain power to build a world of peace; not our productive economy-for we cannot sustain growth without trained manpower; not our democratic system of government-for freedom is fragile if citizens are ignorant.
-President Lyndon B. Johnson
I'm betting Over then
I think the over/under should be about 130 in that game. – Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
BREAKING NEWS:
Reggie Theus is actually just a white dude with a tan. Look at him! Look at the hair! He looks like C. Thomas Howell in Soul Man.
Well, this sucks for Theus, but once again I ask… what does that team’s management expect. Martin has been out most of the year, the team is young and inexperienced (aside from Brad Mad Miller), no one could expect them to really win under those conditions. I thought they’d be a little better if they had Martin because of the no-Artest-taking-every-shot bump, but otherwise they don’t got much to shake a stick at.
I guess they just wanted to go a different direction from the start… and hey, Eddie Jordan would be a purty good fit for a Petrie team.
Here’s a picture of Reggie Theus in happier times:
Maybe he can go coach the Bobcats and renew his paternity dispute with Jordan’s ex-wife!
Mortimer
I cant believe you just compared
Kenny Nat and or Reggie Theus to a pig! I am outraged at the tone of your post, but it is to be expected as you failed to agree to my mens bathroom, town hall style meetings, that John Amechi and I proposed.
topical humor is just so topical.
On a side note it seems weird that a coach who is a handed dismal roster and gives back dismal results gets blamed for it. I imagine PJ Carlesimo and Theus are talking it over right now.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
That's my thought too
What else can ANY coach do with these rosters?
I trust Petrie, so I figure they got someone else in mind, but whether or not Reggie is a great or awful coach that roster isn’t the best one to show one way or another.
I dunno. This is the way it goes, and if the teams don’t feel like these dudes are the dude for them I can’t argue for keepin’ ’em.
Mortimer
What are the GMs expecting?
Were the Kings really hoping to contend for the playoffs this year, after shipping Artest out, and after the new face-of-the-franchise guy was hurt most of the year? They seem to clearly be in developmental mode.
I’m completely baffled by most of these coaching moves. What did the GMs expect would happen? Was John Salmons leading you to the playoffs in one of the toughest playoff races ever?
If the brass doesn’t think young talent is developing well, then ok, I get that. But how could the Kings be unhappy about that?
Hawes? Seems to be much better than anyone really expected. They’re thrilled with him.
Thompson? Likewise. Nobody’s saying he was a reach, now.
Salmons? Martin? Um, good god. Pretty much every player on the team has drastically exceeded expectations.
It seems that if your goal is developing young talent, and you have been doing really well at that, it’s a “cutting off your nose to spite your face” move to ice your coach.
Makes no sense to me. At all.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Dec 15, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Good points
but Hawes was a hot prospect out of HS, his one year at UW hurt his stock.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I thought Theus did a good job last year
and got more wins out of that roster than could be expected. I think he will become a leas assistant some where and learn how to a little less hard on players and he will be a good NBA coach.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
That's my thought too
I dunno if it was Theus or just guys like Salmons and Garcia coming into their own, but the Kings last year won like 3 games less than we did. They were not bad at ALL, and everyone expected them to be awful.
So to take them to that sort of decent season, to now, and be fired already… I dunno. He’s done better than could be expected, both team record wise and with individual player development. Maybe none of that is his doing and he sucks, but it’s hard to say. I know that that team ain’t going nowhere regardless, but since I trust Geoff Petrie I imagine he has someone in mind he wants to go for (like the reports say).
But yeah… they were pretty much as good as we were last season.
Mortimer
You know
Kevin Martin will get instantly healthy and torch us for 40!
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 15, 2008 11:26 AM PST reply actions
They picked a player over the coach?
Why would someone do that?
I mean, Darius WAS going to be really good and look, Cheek’s can hold a job down like I couldn’t at age 18.
But seriously, I will be loud tomorrow at the game and bring a sign that says:
" just because you dress up a pig in a new skirt, it’s still a pig"
Spider pig, Spider Pig, Does whatever a….
Go ahead and post your worst "with a trailblazer" photo on your avatar, can you beat mine?
by BlazermaniacAndy on Dec 15, 2008 11:32 AM PST reply actions
In light of the first snow in Portland, here is my illustrated prediction for tomorrow's game (hint: we are not the snowman)
(And yes, I plan to use that picture again for Dave’s game preview)
Viva la Rudylucion
SLAM! Ba ba da Ba da da! Let the boys be boys!
Go ahead and post your worst "with a trailblazer" photo on your avatar, can you beat mine?
by BlazermaniacAndy on Dec 15, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Theus
He was our coach here at NMSU before he went to the Sac. I was never really into his coaching during games but he was a heck of a recruiter. Looked ‘classy’ in his super expensive suits but he did a lot of yelling at his players and the fans. He was loose with the expletives in awkward situations too. When he left so did almost all of the decent players he recruited.
Never give somebody who sucks a wakeup call.
The firing of Theus is one for Sac.
BTW will Martin be playing?
"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."
They still suck though.
Martin Schmartin. We have Brandon Roy.
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
good old Ninefinger
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
by 22baylor on Dec 15, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
But we only beat them by 1 and martin was not playing
we have been heart broken enough times past week already
"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."
"We STAND heart ache to heart ache.."
The Orlando game was intense and the manner in which the game was lost made the CLippers loss that much more bitter. This game against Sac. can be won. I have renewed confidence.
It will be won by the Blazers.
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
One more thing to add
that could potentially be a problemo…
Travis is still out we are literally down to one hot French rookie.. KMART will have his way on that matchup so Brandon will be the go to guy on defense. Unfortunately for both us and them potentially.
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Rudy seems more like a Nordstrom guy
or Pendleton Wool Mills with his sweaters
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Six down, twenty-four to go
It isn’t yet December 15, and yet fully 20% of the NBA’s coaches at the start of the season have been sent packing.
Whats the record for most coaches sacked in a single season? And who is next?
Iavaroni? Nellie? Spoelstra (not that he’s doing a bad job—but if he Heat look like a contender come March, expect Pat Riley to do to him what he did to SVG)?
by EngineerScotty on Dec 15, 2008 12:57 PM PST reply actions
I vote Iavaroni next
Off the island, Marc. – Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
They've won 4 in a row though
They’re like 9 and 15 right now, and who woulda’ thought that just a few days ago?
I know nothing about Iavaroni besides he hates George W. Bush (as does D’Antoni), is supposed to be really funny, is tall, and was a D’Antoni assistant who also has a temper. He might suck as a coach or be the awesomest coach ever. NO ONE could coach that team to a meaningful season though, so I see no point in firing anyone who coaches them unless they are actively hurting the team.
The Grizz were SUPPOSED to suck, and right now they’re just sub-par but exciting because of Gay-Mayo (“Gay-o”), What else could ya ask for from a coach?
Again, I dunno if he is good at coaching. But the Grizz don’t make anyone look good (4 wins in a row or not).
Mortimer
I'm going to the game
And we better win cuz the last game I went to was Orlando. I deserve a win (well obviously we all do, I am still bitter about that game).
Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez
i worry about every game
theyre all losable. but then im so pleased when we play well and win.
ignacio
Kenny Natt info via Sactown Royalty
Natt spent nine years as an assistant under Jerry Sloan in Utah and three years as Mike Brown’s top assistant in Cleveland. His brother is former All-Star Calvin Natt.
Mhm, doesn’t sound like a bad (interim) coach. Though StR already clamors for Eddie Jordan to return to the Kings.
Viva la Rudylucion
HANG TIME!
Such an awesome show. I remember waking up early on saturday mornings to watch it.
People see Portland on the schedule
And fire their coach cause they know they are gonna lose anyway.
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