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What's Wrong?

Over the last couple of days I’ve gotten plenty of e-mails with questions, comments, and theories about the same topic:  What’s wrong with the Blazers?

 

My initial, instinctive reaction (almost certainly the most correct one) is simply, “Nothing!”  Most decent, and plenty of downright good, teams lose three straight games at some point during the season.  I suppose if you believe that Portland is going to challenge the L*kers and Celtics for the title this year you can officially begin to worry.  Probably if you think the Blazers will usurp the Hornets’, Spurs’, Rockets’, Cavaliers’, or Magic’s place as the next-most-likely to get there you can begin to worry as well.  But if you’re worried about the Blazers falling apart or falling out of the playoff race you can set your heart at ease.  That’s highly unlikely and if it does happen it won’t be because of these three games.  A lot more would have to go wrong than that.

 

Nevertheless, losing to the Clippers at home, no matter how hard-fought the game, is bound to stir up concerns.  It’s not in itself a sign of trouble, but I suspect people worry it’s a prelude to trouble, kind of like watching your friend who quit smoking a while back suddenly start heading to the bus stop for breaks.  Maybe he’s just reading the ads out there, but you worry a little.

 

So, OK.  Fair enough.  It would be silly to overreact to, or put too much weight on, the last couple of games but in the spirit of helping people not overreact and worry, let’s talk a little about what’s been going on this week.  Here are the possible reasons that we’ve encountered a mini-slump.  I’ll list them in order from the nearly-certain first to the possible-but-speculative at the end.

 

The symptoms of the Blazers’ play lately have been a lack of energy (particularly in the basic area of transition defense), loss of focus (notably on offense), porous perimeter defense, and lack of finishing power when the game has been on the line.  The reasons for this could include:

 

1.  Fatigue

 

The Blazers have been playing every other day for what seems like forever with plenty of road games and travel days salted within.  They’ve got to be tired.  This past Saturday night was the first time in forever that I wasn’t posting about the team--either recapping a game, previewing the next one, or both in the same night--and I’m tired.  That’s just from writing about the games.  They’re playing them!  No matter how young and athletic you are when the body starts going south you need rest.  Because of the length and intensity of the games this week the starters have actually been playing more minutes, not fewer.  That’s not helping.  Also anybody who’s experienced physical fatigue in their daily exercise or what have you knows that mental and emotional fatigue follow quickly in its footsteps.  You may know the right thing to do.  You may see the right thing to do.  It can be right in front of you.  (“Run down the court, fool!”)  Somehow you don’t quite make it…at least not this play.  All it takes is three or four of those plays in a game to lose it.  In two cases this week it would have taken just one.  This team will almost certainly look better after this small break.  Let’s hope they get away from the game for a while and get some rest.

 

2.  Emotion

 

This belongs partially in the fatigue section, as wearing down affects your emotional perception.  (Unless, of course, my wife is reading this.  You are ALWAYS sweetness and light, honey, no matter HOW tired you are.  Yes, indeed.)  However there’s been some emotional fallout that goes beyond that.  Almost to a man the Blazers are in the uncharted territory of making the first real playoff drive of their career.  They’ve also experienced a fair amount of success early on in that endeavor.  Along with that success comes the implication that you’re a team of destiny.  This has been aided and abetted by the near-miraculous nature of some wins and the deceptive ease of others.  But emotion is a double-edged sword, seldom effective as a long-term aid to winning.  You could almost see the air leaking out of the balloon with Hedo Turkoglu’s miracle three in the Orlando game.  “Wait a minute…we’re supposed to win like that, not lose like that!  You mean that can happen?”  I know that kind of response doesn’t make much sense logically but since when have emotions and the adrenaline they cause bowed to logic?  All of a sudden it seems like you’re not a team of destiny anymore.  That’s a hard edge to regain.  This is part and parcel of being young and having these experiences.  Chances are they’ll go through it again in the playoffs at some point.  It’s a hard lesson.  This isn’t a fairy tale, it’s basketball.  Teams of Destiny seldom win it all.  The most competent, prepared, hard-working, and talented teams win it all.  Cold maybe…less emotional and inspiring certainly…but true nevertheless.  While recovering from this slump will be another learning experience for the team they’re still going to be running heavy on emotion this year meaning there are going to be more ups and downs.

 

3.  The Law of Averages

 

The Blazers are still a jump-shooting team.  Jump shooting teams have good nights and bad nights.  Heck, they seldom manage an entire night, rather favoring good quarters and bad quarters.  If that doesn’t describe the Blazers so far this year I don’t know what does.  It’s to their extreme credit that they’ve ridden out those on-and-off periods and secured far more wins than losses.  At some point that’s also attributable to good fortune as well, which is bound to go the other way sometimes.  We’ve seen that in the Orlando and Clipper games both.  The good news is as Greg Oden continues to develop (and hopefully as Lamarcus Aldridge continues to develop his offensive aggressiveness) Portland will get more inside opportunities which will balance out some of the topsy-turvy offensive production.

 

Part of the problem here is that the defense, or lack thereof, makes the offensive bar pretty high.  When you’re allowing the opponent to shoot in the upper 40’s it means your offense has less room to vacillate.  The Celtics and Rockets can weather off-nights far better than the Blazers can simply because they can dip lower and still remain ahead.  Portland’s offensive standards, particularly shooting three-pointers, is pretty high if they’re to be successful.  This may not change this season, leaving the Blazers more susceptible to the law of averages.

 

4.  Trust

 

Basketball is a team game.  Most of the time the Blazers play like a team, covering for each other on defense and sharing the ball on offense.  When under stress they tend to play more as individuals offensively.  Also certain players--either through inexperience, misunderstanding, or just plain inattentiveness--abandon sound defensive principles.  All it takes on defense is one person to blow an assignment or miss a read and the whole coverage is blown.  When that happens it’s hard to feel like your effort is contributing to the whole, so you tend to put less into it.  You can’t give your best when you don’t trust the guy who’s watching your back.  The Blazers do fall apart like this sometimes.  Part of it is their individual characteristics.  Part of it is their youth.  Part of it (and we forget this often) is that many of these players haven’t played together for more than 20-odd games.  As the team gels through the season and on into next year some of this should go away, even when the Blazers are hard pressed.

 

We should acknowledge that there’s a difficult balance to be struck here offensively.  On the one hand you want to be effective on offense and everything else should be subservient to that.  It shouldn’t matter who scores as long as the ball goes through.  I think the Blazers feel and play that way as much as humanly possible.  But then again there’s only so much that’s humanly possible.  We have a lot of players who would deem themselves potential offensive stars.  We have about one-and-a-half who have proven themselves as actual offensive stars.  Every one of them, without exception, is young and still finding their way…still needing to explore what they can do and prove themselves.  That makes things tricky.

 

On the one hand you have to be happy with Brandon Roy and Lamarcus Aldridge taking most of the shots.  Anyone who objects to them hitting at a 50% clip and scoring 30--including their own teammates--needs a reality check.  This is the NBA.  You need players who can and will do that.  Allen Iverson has made a huge career scoring 30 shooting a far poorer percentage than that.  There isn’t an elite team in the league who doesn’t have at least one player who takes over the game on a regular basis.  On the other hand, to loosely paraphrase Shaquille O’Neal (easily making this the most vilified paragraph I’ve ever written, name-checking Iverson and Shaq within two sentences of each other), “You have to feed the dog if you want him to guard your yard.”  Greg Oden needs some touches and shots.  Rudy Fernandez needs shots as well.  Sergio Rodriguez is not going to play his best without being able to create on his own.  And with young players especially, when they’re not getting their touches they’re not in the game fully.  That ball has to move around in order for everyone to be playing at their peak.

 

When the Blazers are playing well this happens almost instinctively.  But when somebody misses a few shots or the opponent turns up the pressure the flow gets interrupted.  You see our stars start second-guessing making that pass, wondering if the guy on the other end is going to score.  You see our supporting players start launching shots or trying to make plays that they shouldn’t, perhaps wondering if they’re going to see the ball again.  Even more often you see them stop expending energy off the ball on offense, figuring that they’re not going to get the pass anyway.  This, of course, decreases the opportunities the stars have to get them the ball and a vicious circle ensues.  That kind of functional selfishness (I say “functional” because I don’t believe it’s intentional, rather a by-product of trying to do what’s best, defining “best” by what oneself can contribute) will hobble even the best of teams.  The Blazers are not yet the best of teams.  It will kill them, and has.

 

The solution here is not for Brandon or Lamarcus to take fewer shots necessarily.  They’re probably correct about themselves being the best scoring options right now.  Nor is the solution for the supporting cast to give up their scoring roles and aspirations and cede this team to the two current stars.  Rather on those nights when the offense is struggling or the game is tight the whole team needs to understand where its bread is buttered.  The supporting cast has to play their collective butts off, continuing to expend energy on both ends of the court, being ready to take their offensive opportunities but not getting discouraged if they don’t come as often as they’d desire.  Also the stars can’t get sucked into a “me against the world” mentality and must continue to look for, and trust in, the other players…understanding that the only way they’ll get free enough for decent looks on a regular basis is if the players around them are seen as legitimate threats also.

 

5.  Coaching

 

Everybody wants to point to this first after ever loss.  I’m putting it last because I think there’s only a ghost of a chance that this applies compared to the other factors mentioned.   However when you see a team suddenly not getting back in transition, playing a little self-centeredly on offense, and not expending sufficient energy in all parts of the game you do at least put “has tuned out the coach” somewhere in the list of possible causes.  There is not enough evidence to support any definitive conclusion at this time.  There are TONS of mitigating circumstances (read about fatigue, youth, and emotion above) that fit the explanation better than a sudden, radical change in the Blazers’ reaction to coaching.  It’s almost certainly a non-factor.  But if this were to continue and become a regular occurrence (not losing per se but the energy and lack of detail issues) you would wonder if certain messages were being repeated too much or too little or in the wrong way.

 

To the extent that this could be true it’s incumbent upon ALL parties, players and coaches alike, to evaluate themselves and their approaches.  Simply put, this is too good of a team to let frustration get in the way.  The start has been too effervescent and the progress too pronounced.  Also these players and this coach are too good to let a breakdown happen.  I’m sure Jerry Sloan, John Stockton, and Karl Malone had words at some point.  There’s no way those three shouldn’t have been married to each other.  They were too good together.  The Blazers will be that way as well.  Nate will raise these players in the right way.  He’s already brought them incredibly far.  They need to understand that.  They are growing up as well and they need to be allowed some freedom and mistakes as part of that process.  The coaching staff has to understand that.  If part of the recent lack of focus is a mini-protest (and again, we won’t know that for a while yet) they need to have it out, get over it, and play basketball.  This kind of thing, were it to occur, wouldn’t help anybody.

 

Hopefully that will answer some questions and put people’s minds at ease.  The best bet is to let another week or two of games play out and see where we are.  We’ll be able to talk more intelligently about the situation (if there even is one) then.

 

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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I’m sure Jerry Sloan, John Stockton, and Karl Malone had words at some point. There’s no way those three shouldn’t have been married to each other.

Utah, a land where anything is possible.

Draft Kyle Singler.

by Ben. on Dec 15, 2008 12:53 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Herein lies the problem, though.

UCLA high-post offense > junior high zone offense

http://www.cybersportsusa.com/hooptactics/ucla.asp
http://www.coachesclipboard.net/ZoneOffense.html

Nate McMillan has always been a putrid coach of offense, which is a shame.

In fact, a 98-year-old John Wodden is a more intelligent coach of offense than McMillan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxXgSjx82NE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Xv5GW8C-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSyxxnDtyyA

In all honesty, McMillan’s ineptitude regarding coaching on offense is a sad state of affairs.

by AK1984 on Dec 15, 2008 2:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed, the Portland Trail Blazers are efficient on offense; however, that has more to do with ...

the players themselves rather than the offensive scheme. Although I fully respect Nate McMillan’s slow-paced, methodical offense, I won’t deny the simplicity of it; that’d be ignorant of me. Apropos of Portland’s so-so defense, the onus there falls on certain players. No matter who’s coaching the ballclub, Brandon Roy’s average athleticism and LaMarcus Aldridge’s overall softness will always cause them to be mediocre defenders. On that note, it’s consequently Kevin Pritchard’s job to find players at small forward and point guard — since the center position is appropriately filled by Greg Oden and Joel Przybilla — who can mask Roy and Aldridge’s inarguable defensive shortcomings.

by AK1984 on Dec 15, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What a ludicrous comment

The Blazers are 2nd in the league in offensive efficiency. If there’s a problem it’s on the defensive side of the ball. Great defense feeds great offense.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Dec 15, 2008 9:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

+1 recc’d

"Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live." - Anthony Johnson

by jamon51 on Dec 15, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha.

Now it’s green. This made me laugh so hard.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 15, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I sometimes state the obvious because, well, there's some people who sadly don't get it.

Nate McMillan is neither a good coach nor a bad coach, for he’s an average coach; that’s that.

by AK1984 on Dec 15, 2008 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Despite being just a run-of-the-mill tactician, Nate McMillan can nevertheless be a ...

successful head coach in the NBA. For example, Doc Rivers isn’t necessarily the most sharp, intelligent leader regarding game plans; yet, he’s a magnificent motivator, savvy massager of egos, and a humble guy when it comes to delegating responsibility to his assistants. McMillan, who’ll never compare to a legend like John Wooden, could surely learn something from Rivers.

by AK1984 on Dec 15, 2008 4:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But he's OUR average coach

So when you take that into account, i’d say he’s “above average” or possibly “great”

However i do retroactively agree with your assesment of Kevin Durant now that he plays in Oaklahoma.

by moflow on Dec 15, 2008 5:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

burn

Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket

by prezofdeath on Dec 15, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Your opening comments say it all

Nothing’s wrong….Hedo misses that bank and Boom misses that three or Blake hits a free throw and we’d be talking OMG 72-10 we can do it!!!!!!!

It’s like poker—you’re gonna’ get bad beats, but stick to your cards and play the good hands. Eventually everything will work out.

Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket

by prezofdeath on Dec 15, 2008 12:54 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Not trading Travis, Channing and Sergio already

is like mucking pocket aces pre-flop and then playing the next hand to the river with 7-2 off-suit.

You just can’t keep doing that and expect to win the poker tourney.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 1:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's getting pretty old

The whole running around like headless chickens thing. The lame Nate hate. The brainless trade suggestions. Meh. I’m sick of reading about it. The team’s fine, everybody go back to work.

it's kind of hard to keep your composure when you're down 20 -Oden

by pxilpooshr on Dec 15, 2008 1:41 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Then don't you dare go to O-Live

At least the commenters here have guidelines to follow, and are a mostly intelligent lot. I don’t mind disagreements, but I want people to be able to back things up. Here on BE that’s a great majority of the time.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Dec 15, 2008 10:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well put

As usual Dave well put. There is nothing wrong!!!!

Now while I am never really happy with a loss,they are going to happen and I’m certainly not panicing just yet. When there are high expectations for a team this one being playoffs (after the last few years we deserve it) there are times when any loss will be scrutinised more than is needed.

Looking at the last 3 games

Orlando:
Hey Hdeo made a bank shot 3 to beat us, at the end of the day who cares how he made it, fact is he made a tough shot to win the game. From all reports we didn’t play the last 2 mins of the game that smart (I say by all reports as here in Australia I have to rely on Dave/Ben’s recaps to get behind the box score), but really we didn’t hand the game to Orlando they still needed something special to win it and props to them they pulled it off.

Utah:

I did actually get to stream this game and can anyone say “for three”, I found myself saying how many threes are we throwing up, seemed like every time we came down the floor we would throw up a 3, if that is the way we are going to play a game you have to be prepared to live and die by the sword and this was a night where nothing was dropping from long range, also I felt that Utah were able to penetrate and score pretty easily. We got close early but that was about it.

Clippers:

Look I am sure fatigue was a factor in this game, Blake makes his free throws at the end and we have a win (I’m sure 9 out of 10 times Blake will make those shots), once again though Clippers had to hit a bit shot just to send the game into OT.

Now the clippers record suggests there are one of the worst in the West but I actually don’t think they are that bad, they went through alot of changes in the off season, they now have 2 former all stars (Camby and Davis), then Randolph who can be a 20 and 10 guy, most teams wouldn’t mind having a combination like that and I think they will win a few more games along the way.

If it was a loss to the Thunder then I might have been a little more uptight.

Fact is we very well could have been 17-8 if Hedo and’ Davis had missed those shots, thats something I can live with.

Do I think all the pieces are in place, no, I think we are probably missing another piece (SF or PG), but the future looks damn good, even if I am looking from the other side of the world.

by Bairdy on Dec 15, 2008 1:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

whatever people here feel about travis

as long as hes a blazer the team will do much better if he returns to his form of last year or earlier this season (at times). he needs to feel more comfortable — it doesnt seem to me that hes very often getting the ball in the same place as last year. for instance, the pick and pop (often vs a 4) where he gets the ball out above the top of the key. that seemed to be his most effective station to do his one or two dribble then elevate routine. he could get some rhythm out there.

when he gets the ball way over on the right and then tries to come back to the middle is when one sees his most awkward-looking shots. hes right-hand dominant and hasnt shown much inclination to put the ball on the floor with his left hand.

also, hes become perhaps over-conscious of making himself available behind the 3-pt line, but the pgs often dont seem to be looking for him there as a primary option. when you only get the ball because some other option has failed and youre an afterthought, youre less likely to shoot in rhythm — and as nate has said, travis is a rhythm shooter.

i think we all can tell when he goes up whether hes in good rhythm or not. it’s the shots when hes out of rhythm that look like ‘bad’ shots. sometimes these are against the shotclock, sometimes theyre ‘heatchecks’, other times who knows?

but we need a confident travis who is not reluctant to shoot. he needs a good game since given martell’s foot and batum’s lack of offense (at this point) we need about 12 pts/gm from travis with occasional 18 or 20 if hes hot on a particular night.

if we want to win we need travis right now.

ignacio

by ignacio on Dec 15, 2008 2:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

A lot of truth in that
if we want to win we need travis right now.

We certainly need something out of the SF spot. Either we need Travis to get it going again, or we need Nic to come back into form, or we need to play Brandon at the 3 and have Rudy get it going at SG.

Ideally, Travis gets into the groove.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 15, 2008 2:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

great observations

Right now, if we want to win and make that run to the playoffs, we need Travis badly. We need all our role players for that matter.

I really worry about the mental aspect of the game for Travis. Now that he is actually expected to be a major player on this team (after becoming our “6th man” last season), it seems as though he is struggling to figure out how to do that and may be overthinking it.

When he broke out last year it wasn’t necessarily expected and he was just able to play ball and keep the good times rollin’. Then he had the summer to think about the great strides he made and how to take it to the next level (and he started talking about needing more shots and wanting to become an All-Star… hat tip to Jason Quick for the great stories about Travis down in Mississippi).

After the summer he comes into the season with these thoughts and expectations and it doesn’t automatically work for him. So then he starts thinking about it and isn’t able to get into the flow of the game and do things effectively.

Thus, Travis has regressed. His 3-point shot is better, and he has appear to defend and rebound at times (though very inconsistently), but his overall game feels to me that it has regressed. Is it because we have more depth and guys like Rudy who can score on the second unit?

Unfortunately KP can’t wait around to see if Travis will ever become a efficient basketball player on this team. Once Martell is back, we’ve got guys at the SF who we need to develop because their potential as good, team-oriented all-around players seem higher (Martell and Nicolas).

It appears the only answer will be to trade him before the start of next season.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 3:27 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Almost...

I’d say a better version of your last sentence is to wait through the year, see where/how he finishes, watch his work ethic in the summer, then make a decision.

He got a lot of confidence in himself last year and then made some outlandish comments this summer. Then he is coming back down to Earth because we are a much more balanced team and we don’t need him to go against the world on offense and need consistency on defense.

If he uses this fall to regain some perspective, stay in PDX next summer and work on his game like some of the other “potentials” (Martell, Frye, etc), then I think he could stay and be a good choice as the back-up 4, or sometimes a back-up 3… heck, maybe he actually earns that starter role. Am I stretching it a bit? Yes. I know I am. But the point is you don’t really know what you are going to get with Trav, we are too thin at the 3 now (did you expect to say that earlier this year, especially with Batum’s hot start), and it is a win-win situation.

Just wait… some other team will be willing to trade for his potential if he continues to not fit well with this team. But if it does work out, then we aren’t killing ourselves now and giving ourselves the most options later.

Then again, just go get a proven 3 by trading Travis and that would work too.

-Ty

Oden and LaMarcus and Roy, oh my!

by Quik_Baller on Dec 15, 2008 4:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's the big "if"

If there’s no good deal to be had, we have to ride out this year, or at least until Martell is playing productively. We can’t just dump Travis as things stand. We can’t afford to be “done with Travis” unless we can get a proven 3, and people don’t just put those guys on the market all the time.

We can’t just go knocking on Detroit’s door and ask for Tayshaun — he probably simply isn’t available. And it may be premature to burn a lot of assets for a proven 3, since Martell and Nic may provide all our answers at the 3 in a couple months.

It’s an awkward situation — Martell’s injury, Nic’s slump, and Travis’ disappearance all at the same time leaves us very vulnerable at the 3, but it could all be better in a few weeks. If we knew it was going to be better, we could stand pat and ride it out. But we don’t know, do we? Glad KP is making these decisions instead of me.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 15, 2008 6:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You tell 'em

It seems like there are two kinds of Travis haters here. If Travis was an old car that kept breaking down and needed to replaced, one group would go shopping for a new car before Travis broke down and replace him (trade proposal folks). And another group who would drive the old car out the country, set it on fire, then realize they don’t have a means to get home (I’m done with Travis group).

by tominhawaii on Dec 15, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Problem is

We’ve already got two hot rods (Martell and Nicky) parked in the garage.

They are waxed, polished, stick shift, and go 0 to 60 in 2.5 possessions.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 4:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Martell is in for repairs

and Nicky is that new car that has to keep going in to get things sorted out under warranty. You know they will be sorted, and that you’ll love this car, but the fact is, you still don’t get to drive it very often.

Better stick with the one you’ve got for a while longer. Maybe it will turn out for the best, anyway.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 16, 2008 12:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We're having fun here, but I'm not disagreeing with you and Tommy Bahama

I am on the record as saying we need to get rid of him before the start of next season. I totally understand that we can’t get rid of him right now (unless a better SF is coming in return, which exacerbates that Martell and Nicky development program problem).

I said “I’m done with Travis” but I have also made clear that I mean that as a long term thing. Tom blew it out of context and tried to make it sound like I want to jettison Travis right now. Not the case.

(Tom probably got stuck up on Diamond Head at some point in his life and wanted to make some car analogy out of my comments).

"Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 16, 2008 12:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the song Panama

and car analogies.

"Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 16, 2008 4:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My car is a Thing

It’s orange and I like to compare it to my private parts.

by tominhawaii on Dec 16, 2008 5:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I take it

you drive one of those little Smart Cars?

"Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 16, 2008 5:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ther are very few

players in the NBA, that don’t need to be in a rhythm…..Some good players get there by just warming up before the game..for some, it can be physiological or some other emotion of sorts, such as nerves……You can be tired but still have your rhythm (just can’t get enough on the shot) then you may lose your rhythm as a result of overcompensating…Some players can’t get in rhythm because of lack of playing time or because the offense is regimented away from you or your style of play….(Travis maybe)
    Travis is in the NBA because he is outrageously athletic …….He should not be the key to our success….if he is, then we may have a problem…..His window of contribution to the team is small(not saying he has not helped at times, because he has)
   IMO our offense has problems…..too predictable and lacks motion….other teams know we are (currently) variations of Roy and LA iso’s and everyone else goes to a spot…..A few pick and rolls, but not much motion after that….Good defenses can make life difficult because they overplay what we do….and without needed variation and motion in your offense you will also live and die by the 3 point and outside shot…..(this being both set pieces and safety valves)
    Of course, defense is the major problem….it could key our offensive transition game and get us a lot more easy hoops…this will cut down on the fatigue factor, as we won’t have to work so hard to get shots
   We are flat terrible in the offensive-defensive transition game….We need a lot of progression here…It will be the difference…no doubt in my mind…..

It's all about defense......

by 67 on Dec 15, 2008 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Love your perspective Dave....

Now watch us win most of December and everyone freak out over how good we are.

Let the overreactions continue!!!!

-T

Oden and LaMarcus and Roy, oh my!

by Quik_Baller on Dec 15, 2008 4:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the 10 min on the couch

dave….

now uh, how much do I owe you?

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 15, 2008 5:26 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Other than being a bit disappointed ...

… I took nothing away from Friday night’s loss.

I was bummed about Blake missing 4 FT’s, but how often is that going to happen? Perhaps the best part was the fact that being home in Portland for the weekend, I didn’t have access to BE, and therefore was able to miss all the whinning.

I’m looking forward to tomorrow night’s game, just as I will continue to look forward to each new Blazer game. They are my team and whether they are winning 1 out of 4 or 3 out of 4, I’m going to watch and root for them and enjoy them.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 15, 2008 7:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Why should Blake have to make FT to beat the Clipps at home?

Do any of you ever ask yourselves that? The Clipps had won FOUR GAMES up to that point. FOUR GAMES.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 15, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They've been about a .500 since acquiring Zbo

It was a bad loss, for sure, but you aren’t going to blow out every team, especially when they are rested and you are on a back to back. The Clippers are much better than their record— failing to realize this is absurd.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 15, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Frustration

for fans…..gets vented in various forms……the problem is actually not based on any singular event, but many use the most recent game as illustrations of what went wrong….Clearly we should be a better team than the Clippers on our home court….we can’t be blinded by the fact that there are some significant issues regarding some trends we have set……offensive flow, lack of transition offense and defense, living and dieing by the outside shot…..maybe inexperience or some fatigue, but if the trend continues there should be concern for fans of the game of basketball, but not necessarily for the die hard Blazer fan…..

It's all about defense......

by 67 on Dec 15, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tired

That team was tired. they jump shoot a lot. when you’re tired and jump shooting you miss 20% of your shots in pregame warm-ups and then completely die during the actual game.

When you’re tired and jump shooting your shots go flat and hit rim… a LOT.

When greg oden looks energetic, you’re tired.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 15, 2008 7:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Having 3 rookies with major playing time

is a bigger factor than most seem to be acknowledging.

Consider this, Oden is still clearly not in NBA shape…clearly. His progress from micro-fracture surgery has been well but it will take the rest of the year and another off-season before we really see the real Greg Oden.

Rudy has never played this intensive of a schedule before in his life. Only playing an entire NBA season can prepare one for this despite all of his European playing experience.

Batuum has even less experience playing these kind of minutes and has even less experience with this level of talent.

Put all of this together with the “Rookie Wall” that seems to be coming head on and the challenge gets even greater.

To not expect these factors to have a major impact is well….blissfully ignorant, or just blind homerism.

All in all, with a good pair of “reality lenses” on, one can see that we are just fine and learning. Exactly where we are, and probably should be.

by ColoradoBlazerFan on Dec 15, 2008 8:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

You forgot luck

Our luck has evened out a bit with these last two home losses.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 15, 2008 8:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

on the contrary

stat guys absolutely believe in luck.

A team that is outperforming its pythagorean record is usually a team who has been lucky. With these close losses, that description no longer fits the Blazers. If anything, the Blazers have been a little unlucky this season.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 15, 2008 9:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i believe he covered the luck thing..

.. in the law of averages segment.

by appel82 on Dec 15, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

to some degree

but while Dave was talking about shooting percentages, I was talking about records in close games, which tend to be much more about luck (and less about clutch-ness) than most fans like to admit.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 15, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What's wrong?

Some people don’t realize it’s an 82 game season and a young team dropping a few after a pretty good stretch isn’t unexpected, that’s what’s wrong.

by grimc on Dec 15, 2008 8:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

This is ridiculous

Year ago, I used to be more active on Blazer’s Edge, but then I realized it was slowly turning into a place where everyone could vent their frustrations and their dime/dozen trade ideas. The Blazers are ahead of where most of us thought they would/should be right now. They are closing in on their win total from 2005-2006…after just a quarter of the season complete. Even if they play %.500 ball for the rest of the season, they would end up with more wins than last year. Play a little better than %.500, and they are in the playoffs. That is the next step I am excited to see.

by clonigro on Dec 15, 2008 9:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Really.

Early on I checked out Oregon Live and quickly came to the conclusion that you had to pass an idiot test in order to participate. Truehoop has – in my opinion – gone down hill with regard to the quality of posting (though not the quality of Henry’s work) ever since it became syndicated by ESPN.

So, while some of the negativity and constant fantasy GM “improvement” trades and ideas irritate me from time to time, the fans here are still head and shoulders above many counterparts elsewhere.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 15, 2008 12:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We will be fine

This blog says it all,,,,,,Nice job.

I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."

by Dragonage on Dec 15, 2008 9:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

my only concern is that they seem soft

It seems as though after the Boston game, we have been exposed as a team that folds a bit under physical play. Obviously this situation is part solved once Oden is adjusted and comfortable in the NBA game. However, I’m still in the camp that says that the Blazers need to show a little more fire and anger when necessary. It is absolutely admirable that they are not whiners, they aren’t huge trash talkers, and they seem to try to show taunting doesn’t affect them. But until they fight back, they will keep getting pushed around. I still feel that the KG on all 4’s moment was our chance to show we won’t be pushed around, and we didn’t take advantage of the opportunity. Heck, even Dave said Bayless should have bounced that ball right into his pace, or punched him (which I agree with)… Anyway, less jump shots, more inside game, no panic, more Oden development, we’ll be fine. We aren’t winning a championship this year, it’s silly to expect that. We’re going to make the playoffs and get some experience, and let’s all enjoy the ride!

myspace.com/marktwainindians

by mark twain on Dec 15, 2008 9:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

a bounce pass to KG's face

would have been good.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 15, 2008 9:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yes

It would have mde my year

by BeloHorizante on Dec 15, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's what's wrong imo

1. Lack of easy baskets, both in the paint and/or in transition. The Blazers are a jump-shooting team and the 40% of the time when the shots fall, they’re awfully tough. When they aren’t falling, they’ll usually lose because they have nothing else to fall back on.

2. Lack of toughness. Joel is the only semi-tough Blazer on the team. The rest are patsies. We might have the softest team in the league….seriously. This becomes especially evident vs. teams like Boston. Once again i find myself wishing the Blazers had an enforcer, someone who intimidates the other team even just a little. Sadly, we don’t.

3. Lack of late-game offense. Teams are catching on that Brandon goes one-on-one 95% of possessions late in close games and they are shutting that down. Time to adjust or lose more.

4. Weak perimeter defense. At the PG spot especially. It’s really bad.

4. Inconsistent bench play. Our bench is pretty good at times, but also very inconsistent – especially lately. Travis has been particularly horrible. But Rudy has been off, Sergio has been off, Joel has been off…

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 15, 2008 9:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I believe it's pansies

not patsies. Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy

myspace.com/marktwainindians

by mark twain on Dec 15, 2008 9:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you believe that....

… I have copies of the Roswell autopsy reports I’ll be happy to sell you.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 15, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and the Blazers are a playoff bubble team, make no mistake. Every game is important.

So I completely disagree with blowing off every bad loss like it doesn’t matter. The problems need to be addressed RIGHT NOW, or just like last season we’ll fade again as other teams get healthier and more focused.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 15, 2008 9:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And please for the love of all that's holy, stop with the fatigue excuse

The Blazers are the only team in the league that feels fatigue. Even though we’re one of the youngest. Here we go again.

ROLLEYES

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 15, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think that anyone here has stated or even insinuated that the Blazers are the only team that suffers from fatigue.

But there are certainly mitigating circumstances which state our guys were likely running on fumes the last few games. That doesn’t mean they don’t have areas to improve on, or that teams aren’t figuring out their weak points, nor that rest will show instant improvement (though I believe it will provide a nice boost in performance). It just means that fatigue is a major contributor to the poor showing at the tail end of this cluster of games (which I still consider a 9 game road trip).

by zaruga on Dec 15, 2008 12:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's why most teams win as often on the road

as they do at home. Because they don’t feel fatigue.

They also win just as many of their back to back games as the other games. Because they don’t feel fatigue, only the Blazers do.

Right?

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 15, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was more enjoyable ...

… back when we had you over on the light side.

The Blazers are what they are. Some things might improve with experience and others not. All in all, there is far more to be positive about this team than there is to be negative. For example, which team would you rather be a fan of – Portland or Phoenix? Regardless of all the trade proposals to add Amare or Nash to our team, which roster do you think will be the most enjoyable to root for over the next several seasons? It’s a comparison Portland wins against most teams in the NBA.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 15, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Next steps

90 percent of the suggestions here are for ways to improve the offense. But the Blazers already are one of the best offensive teams in the league, by every metric of offensive efficiency.

Their defense, however, is clearly below average, and about 10 points less effective than the best defenses in the italic phraseNBA. This is where they have the greatest chance to improve; becoming an average defensive team would have more of an effect than becoming a better offensive team.

3. This improvement will come naturally, in significant part, assuming Oden becomes more explosive and more pro basketball-smart. Oden’s defensive improvement will show up vividly in Portland’s, and the sooner it comes, the sooner and more vividly we will see the impact.

4. The other significant influence that will improve with time, albeit more slowly, is experience. This is an incredibly inexperienced team. Batum, Fernandez and Oden all are seeing significant minutes—fourth, fifth and seventh man minutes—in their first NBA months. But NBA players peak in their fifth to seventh seasons typically, and their peaks are dramatically better than their first seasons—as these guy’s peaks will be.

There would be less concern if we had beaten the Clippers, but we had an added handicap in that game: no Travis. This sounds odds coming from me, because I haven’t been his huge fan. But an ordinary Travis allows us to make much better substitutions, and a more familiar rotation for everyone—not to mention more rest for several players. We would have looked less fatigued, and Travis would have dropped a couple buckets that would have meant the game was not in reach when Blake went blank at the foul line. So our depth, which had been a strength, was not one against the Clippers, and the small difference that made was that between winning in regulation and being tied.

They look good. They need a low post offense, and Oden will provide more as he learns—and Aldridge may, but perhaps slowly. And they need better defense, but have most of the ingredients for one already. They could make one move and have a big effect, as Boston demonstrated when it acquired Garnett, and went from a below average defensive team to perhaps the best one in the NBA.

Alas, it is going to take a little time. You cannot get older, faster. I look for a trade that gives us a bit more wisdom and defense at either the one or the three, and I’m sure they want to add a Lucas-type to back up the four.

by Hulk on Dec 15, 2008 9:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Although the Blazer offense is significantly stagnate, it’s the defense that will give them more wins…they Have not established a defensive state of mind, and they have to be close to the bottom in the transition game (both offense and defense)…..Will experience make a difference? yes it probably will….and the fact that most of these guys have little or no college experience to solidify the fundamentals is a factor for sure
    The coaching staff has a monumental task of getting the basics to all these young players…this may play out over time, but IMO we need to get Nate some help developing the youth.(if we want to speed the process up) Lucas has not shown anything as a big man coach….(they need someone here)….Nate should concentrate on the point guard/floor leader part of the game (an extension of the coach and also Nate’s specialty)…..A hard nosed defensive assistant would be of great value
  Like I said , with all this youth, the staff needs to change to get more specialty coaches in the fold…It’s time to recognize our weaknesses and take some steps to get more fundamentally sound….

It's all about defense......

by 67 on Dec 15, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding
90 percent of the suggestions here are for ways to improve the offense.

That’s because everyone is an offensive “expert” and lots of people don’t have a clue about defense, especially team defense.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 15, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

everyone is an offensive "expert"

Except Nate McMillan apparently. By “everyone” do you mean just Jscot and John Wooden?

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 4:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wooden and Jscot

probably the two most offensive people of our time

by pualo on Dec 15, 2008 9:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt

they offend me all the time. Wooden for refusing to go TU, and Jscot with his Scottish humor.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 15, 2008 9:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see why

I should share this crown with some old geezer.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 16, 2008 12:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Endurance and age

Conventional wisdom says young guys can keep it up longer.

Which in turn means, of course, that this Portland team should have more endurance than any other, especially because of their depth which allows more players more rest.

But endurance doesn’t peak in a person’s early 20’s. If it did, the world’s best distance runners would be collegians. Instead, the world’s best distance runners peak close to age 30; their best years are 28-32.

Blake and Pryzbilla are the only Blazers in their peak endurance years. The rest are several years—as much as eight years—short of it.

We shouldn’t be surprised to see the team stumble to the finish line on Friday. Given our youth, it was predictable.

by Hulk on Dec 15, 2008 10:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Actually

a lot of distance runners peak even later than that. But athleticism starts to decline, so it’s a tradeoff.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 15, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a big point

A 22 year old NBA player almost never has the same endurance and season-long motor that a 27, 28, 30 year old NBA player has… a player who has had YEARS to develop that endurance and get their body accustomed to the 82 game grind.

‘Young legs’ may be able to bounce back from injuries and stuff better, but they aren’t used to what they have not done many times before, which is play a full season. Veteran teams have better endurance than any young team, and too many confuse ‘young’ with the ability to not ever be tired because that’s how they felt in their normal life.

Doesn’t work that way in sports, with people in great shape. Some things, your body has to experience and endure before you can handle it again.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 15, 2008 6:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be more worried

I’d be more worried if as Dwight Jaynes and others have pointed out, our last loss wasn’t such an amazing perfect storm of bad luck. No excuses, but we came as close to winning that game as possible and still walked away with a loss.

All the observations are valid and probably things we need to keep an eye on, but what’s wrong with The Blazers? Nothing a winning streak wouldn’t fix. For now, I’m willing to chalk it up to the inevitable up’s and downs of a long season.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Dec 15, 2008 10:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am going to go ahead and blame this all squarely on MY Shoulder's

Let’s face it people, you are all pointing fingers at players and at our team when really none need to be pointed at all. It’s all my fault.
You see, I must be doing something wrong in my life to warrant such actions from the gods to cause them such anguish for my home team. So let me go ahead and start correcting the things in my life that are out of tune and soon enough the team’s wins will reflect my changes. Why has this been happening you might ask?
Perhaps it was me bringing some lady fans to the games who had never been before, are these girls and their Rose Garden Virginity distracting my home team from their goal at hand?
It might of have been the fact that I actually DID NOT watch a game live (Thursday in Utah) and instead went out with Said girl to a new Martini bar downtown and tried to layeth the mack down to mixed results? It must be. So, from now on, vent your frustrations my way, and just like my Blazers I will work on getting better everyday in preparation for my next chance to prove I have made Change.
Yes I can.
And tomorrow I will get my chance, that is IF I can get down to the Garden, I mean, sometimes things are out of your hands, like this snow storm, and Baron’s Freak Three.

Go ahead and post your worst "with a trailblazer" photo on your avatar, can you beat mine?

by BlazermaniacAndy on Dec 15, 2008 11:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't believe in pointing fingers ...

… but this time I’ll make an exception.

It’s all Andy’s fault. I think we should track him down and throw rocks at him, until Portland wins.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 15, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It is about defense but it won't change "naturally", easily or quickly

Blazers are the 2nd lowest ranked team above .500 on defensive efficiency ahead of only Phoenix. Oden’s team defense has been quite weak to date. It will improve but when does it take Portland up to average or elite? Probably some wait involved. The offense is great but to get much more defense (an dmuch more is needed than 1 player to improve) some of the offensive parts will either need minutes to be trimmed or traded. Or you could make a coaching change.at some point if the defense doesn’t improve. At head coach level or assistant.

AK1984 will overstate or be wrong on some things but he knows more about the NBA than 90+% of internet posters.

by StatRaven on Dec 15, 2008 2:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

In the big scheme

Paul Allen is the fan that counts most. He has a history of trading for quality veterans whenever there’s opportunity to drive hard to the playoffs. He sees all the same strengths and weaknesses as Bedgers and he will do his part to make improvement. It doesn’t always work out but this is a what have you done for me lately sports league. The NBA grows, devours and spits out the bones of marginal players and it doesn’t care too much about chemistry. It’s just one fan’s opinion but we have a couple of marginal players that can be pretty easily upgraded in the free agent market. We love our players and we love to reminisce about them years after they get traded.

by oregonslee on Dec 15, 2008 5:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

didnt the Blazers start really hot last year as well? theres really no guarantees of consistency with this team

by TheAncientRivalry on Dec 16, 2008 1:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Negative

The Blazers started out poorly last year and only about 1/3 through the season did they start to reel off the wins. They have started off this year very well.

Consistency? About what? Last year they were young and had a fine season. Now they’re a year older and winning more. Where’s the inconsistency?

by oregonslee on Dec 16, 2008 2:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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