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2 NBA sources confirmed and it looks like only the owner can veto the deal. The pickup is possible now since the Crittenton trade that left a spot open on their roster. SIGH

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by koyote on Dec 12, 2008 11:24 PM PST reply actions  

Is Jerry West secretly running the Griz and the L*ckers

That’s the only way I can explain this :/ In all seriousness, I had a feeling Miles would make it back to the league at some point when he showed up in (relatively) decent condition for summer league.

As to the suspension (10 games, correct?), does that start the moment he signs or does he have to be on the active roster for the suspension to start clicking off?

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 12, 2008 11:33 PM PST reply actions  

  • He has to sign with a team
  • He has to be on the active 12 man gameday roster for ten games (not just ten days), so other players have to be left off
  • Following that, he has to play in 10 games to make it back on the Blazers salary cap
  • Following that, the Blazers are likely to file a complaint with the NBA since the rules regarding medical retirement a little bit blurry and seem to have originally been written into the CBA with the intention of preventing clubs from releasing own players, re-negotiating their contracts and then taking them back on for less money. Not for a player being declared medically retired, then making it back with another team.

Viva la Rudylucion

by Norsktroll on Dec 13, 2008 12:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay, here's my take on this whole brouhaha.

1. For the Memphis Grizzlies, a signing of Darius Miles would be a low-risk/high-reward proposition. Of course, the reward would obviously be of the fiscal variety.

2. As the Grizzlies’ 12th man on its active roster, a suspended Miles certainly wouldn’t be any worse than an overweight, over-the-hill Antoine Walker suiting up for benchwarming duties.

3. At the reserve small forward spot, Miles woudn’t have a lot of competition — as Quinton Ross can slide over to shooting guard, while Greg Buckner rides the pine — thus, he could easily earn roughly 8 minutes per game as Rudy Gay’s backup.

4. If Darius Miles fulfills the obligations set forth within the NBA collective bargaining agreement, then the remaining two years, $18,000,000 on his contract should thereby return to the Blazers’ salary cap.

Yeah, that’s a bleak outlook.

by AK1984 on Dec 13, 2008 4:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't forget

that the intent of that clause in the CBA was to prevent teams circumventing cap rules by “medically retiring” a player and then bringing him back.

The intent was not to have a team which follows a doctor’s advice get shafted because another team doesn’t.

The Blazers would most likely win that appeal.

There are going to be some unhappy players on that Memphis roster if they are stuck on the reserve list and so aren’t getting PT because Darius is serving his suspension. He will have to be enough better than them to justify that.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 13, 2008 5:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Hamed Haddadi is working on his game in the D-League, while Antoine Walker should be ...

very ecstatic that he’s still collecting an enormous paycheck; thus, I don’t see this whole active roster thing being an issue. Greg Buckner and Marko Jaric are also in no position to complain about a lack of playing time, which is regardless of whether or not the Memphis Grizzlies sign Darius Miles.

Also, Kevin Pritchard reportedly made some less than rosy comments regarding this situation.

http://portlandtribune.com/sports/story.php?story_id=121693653261551200

From my objective viewpoint, my guess is that the Portland Trail Blazers would lose an appeal.

by AK1984 on Dec 13, 2008 5:46 AM PST up reply actions  

dude....miles was good, but he sucks now, can't jump can't rebound, can't fight for position....

I wasn’t like itching to watch boston play or anything but when he was suited up for them, and playing, he looked…..slow….and old.

I doubt anyone signs a player who was described as “bone to bone” in the knee department.

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 13, 2008 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

That is an old and silly story

It was obviously discussed at length here last summer.

If there was a HIPAA violation, presumably it would have been, you know, acted on by now. By the authorities. At worst, it was a technical violation, and the Blazers would have to pay a fine. It has nothing to do with the league or the CBA, and certainly nothing to do with the question of whether not the Blazers fulfilled the medical retirement requirements, or whether the intent of the CBA provision was to address this type of situation. The whole HIPAA thing is a grand irrelevance as to Darius’ possible cap impact on Portland.

And the whole idea of filing a suit or grievance based on restricting his chances to find a job is DOA, DOA, DOA, DOA, DOA. It was an absurdity before, and now it is a dead absurdity.

It was an absurdity, because if Darius were healthy enough and good enough to play NBA ball, a team would, you know, give him a medical exam and a tryout. They would NEVER decide against that simply because KP said something to the press. Silliness, silliness. This was one of the stupidest things Dwight Jaynes ever wrote. If KP said he was a baby-killing, frog-fornicating drug addict, then there might be a case.

And it’s a DOA dead absurdity, as evidenced by the fact that more than one NBA team has done exactly what I said — made their own medical assessment and let him try out for the team. He signed a contract with Boston, for crying out loud. There’s nothing in it.

And even if there was something in it, it would be irrelevant to the question of legal intent of that provision, which would be the basis of the appeal.

Unless KP flat out lied, two doctors, including the league appointed doctor, recommended he never play again and there is a high chance of needing knee replacement. If that is true, the Blazers did the ethical, appropriate, and legal (within the CBA) thing by going for medical retirement, and if another team chooses to ignore that medical advice and play Darius, there is no reason the Blazers should be penalized.

It would be different if it had been the Blazers’ doctor. But it was an independent, league-appointed doctor. You don’t penalize a team for following the advice of the doctor you appointed.

As to the guys you named, it simply comes down to this. There needs to be enough clear blue water between Darius and your #12 guy on the roster to justify going into 10 games with only 11 players available. Whether Darius is enough better than their #12 to justify that remains to be seen, but that is the assessment every team that considers him has to make.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 13, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Dwight Jaynes was goaded into retirement after that story

Sure, he used Meehan going TU as an excuse. But I agree with Jscot:

Silliness, silliness. This was one of the stupidest things Dwight Jaynes ever wrote.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you

I wasn’t clear on what exactly the procedure was, that clears it up for me

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 13, 2008 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

"Two sources"

Let me guess: Darius is one source, and his agent is the other.

They’ve floated this crap so many times and Adrian Who’syourdaddy always publishes it because it will increase page views for Yahoo Sports. This is terrible. Until I see an actual press release from an NBA team, I’m not going to buy this garbage.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

He can only play in two games

before Memphis has to either guarantee his contract or let him go.

Some fans think it’s about about screwing Portland for not agreeing to a trade. ??? Read it here

by jorga on Dec 13, 2008 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

The post by the Blazer fan in there

is pretty classic

“As a Portland fan, I think this is a great move for the development of the Grizz. Just think of all the precious "coming of age" moments Darius can help with: teaching them how to "make it rain" at all the local strip clubs; gun safety courses for parking lot altercations; proper technique for verbally abusing your coach with racial epithets. Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it”

Quality stuff, whoever you are

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 13, 2008 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

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