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11:27PM

More in about an hour once I get a chance to type this up, but I wanted to pass along this information first.  I wasn't going to say anything but Jay Allen went with it on the radio so I will too.

You probably saw the play in the second half where Brandon fell hard and was favoring his right hand. At the time he shook it off and hit a free throw.  In the locker room postgame, his right pinky finger didn't look very good.  It appeared at least slightly discolored and seemed to protude at a not-quite-normal angle.  It is being evaluated by medical staff tonight.  There was some discussion between a few media members and Brandon about whether it might be dislocated.  I should say that Brandon did not appear to be in serious pain after the game and was in a surprisingly good mood, lightly joking with Brian Hendrickson and others.  

More information should be available at practice tomorrow morning.  And, yes, the team is practicing after this long stretch.  My guess is had they closed this one out they would have probably had tomorrow off.

Thought you should know.  As I said, the rest of the report will be coming shortly. Thanks for your patience.

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1:15AM

Boxscore

There are no excuses for that loss so I will save your time and not make any.  Tonight's matchup against the Los Angeles Clippers was a clearly winnable game against an inferior opponent, at home. "You've got to make your free throws," you've got to execute down the stretch, and you've got to get stops.  I think we can all agree that the Blazers failed to do all of those things.  Blake went 1 for 5 from the charity stripe, the team struggled to score from the middle of the fourth quarter through both overtimes, and the Clippers, particularly Baron Davis (27 points) and Zach Randolph (38 points), seemed to meet little resistance, enjoying many open looks and hitting some tough shots when they needed to.  

All of those are bad things.  You can choose to dwell on any and all of those for the next 3 days if you like.  Tonight was a bad loss, one that we very well might point back to as the playoffs get closer.  But it was illuminating for a few reasons.

1. Travis was injured and Martell is still out, so we were left with a gaping hole at the 3.  Particularly because Nic Batum continues his descent back to Earth, going 2 for 6 with some ugly misses.  Jerryd Bayless plugged in for a few minutes in the second quarter taking some of Travis's time but, after being hit with 2 quick fouls, that's all we saw from Rexy Poo.  

Given that the game went into double overtime, where did all of Travis's time go?  Well, not to Channing Frye (just 3 minutes).  Surprisingly enough, even at the tail end of the long back and forth road trip, Nate ran Brandon out there for 53 minutes and LaMarcus for 54.  I guess he figured they have 3 days to rest up.  That strategy seemed to work fine until about halfway through the fourth quarter, when the fatigue started to show on both B Roy and LaMarcus.  No adjustments were made.

What does this tell us?  Frye is in the deep, dark doghouse again like he was last year, Nate still doesn't really trust Rex and perhaps tonight we got a hint at what to worry about come playoff time.  Brandon simply cannot log 40++ minutes a night in such short succession and continue to deliver time after time in the clutch.  He made plenty of big shots tonight on his way to a career high 38 points but the effort expended to get those points (the team only scored 14 points in the fourth quarter, Brandon had 8 of them) will not be able to be maintained over a 7 game series.  Brandon is the best player Portland has had in more than a decade but he is human.

2. Greg played heavy, heavy minutes and his performance was better than mixed.  In the Jason Quick spirit of being honest when talking about Greg, I will cop to feeling absolutely terrified with him out there for nearly all of crunch time.  The reasons for said terror are well-known and have been discussed ad naseum: trouble catching and finishing, some spacing issues on defense, and concerns about his shape.  Despite some late-game fumbles of loose balls, I thought Greg rose to the challenge tonight.  [Disclaimer: it was the Clippers.] His numbers were solid, 15 and 15, but what jumps out of the box at me was the 2 turnovers in 42 minutes.  For Greg that's not just a step forward, that's a quantum leap.  

My favorite thing about Greg's night was near the very end of the 4th quarter, when the team had come through with a big defensive stop that ended with Blake getting a steal and getting fouled, which presumably was going to ice the game.  Greg snapped back to Old Greg (the one that's been hiding for months) for about 15 seconds after the foul was whistled.  He went over to Brandon and looked for a high five.  He went over to Aldridge, who didn't see him at first, and gave him a high five.  Aldridge looked surprised.  Who is this?  Greg?  A large part of the frustration that many people feel about Greg traces back to rhythm: he seems out of sync, behind plays, etc.  At that moment, he was in rhythm with a pulsing game and there was no mistaking it.  It's the kind of moment that gets forgotten after a loss, probably even by Greg, but it was a breath of fresh air.  Keep an eye out for similar moments.

3. It's time to speak frankly about Rudy.  I love the man as much as anyone but I think it's time that we admit he is not infallible.  If not tonight, then I don't know when.  If you only saw his 2 for 11 on the boxscore and are wondering whether it was representative of his effect upon the team's offense, I would say absolutely yes.  Hand in hand with being the ballsiest Spaniard to walk the earth is the fact that Rudy listens to those balls way more than he listens to his conscience (if he even has one when it comes to pulling the trigger. Like I said in the game thread, he looked like EuroTravis tonight).  Check out these stats from Brian Hendrickson, who was nice enough to walk me through them pregame:

There is one very big dead spot on the floor in Rudy's game, though: The mid-range jumper. Rudy has made 21 of 27 layup and dunk attempts (78 percent) and 50 of 118 3-point attempts (42.4 percent). But get this: He is a combined 11 of 45 (24.4 percent) from 1 to 23 feet.

A good portion of those shots are coming off the dribble, at full tilt, at awkward angkles, and with the clock running down (or all of the above).  This is a problem. Thankfully there are a ton of games left to correct it.

Not to be overlooked: Rudy chipped in 11 boards and 4 assists and had 0 turnovers in 38 minutes.  Those are all great numbers.

One Quick Word On Execution

I don't like the idea of running iso plays for LaMarcus one on one against Camby like we did during important stetches of the game.  The degree of difficulty is simply too high.  Even when he made that sweet jump hook from 6 or 8 feet, it's just not easy points.  LaMarcus isn't that guy yet.  He may be someday soon.  But not yet, at least not against Camby.

Final Thoughts

Both injuries and fatigue are starting to chip away at our depth.  To continue our early-season success, we need Travis back (playing more minutes than he has to this point), we need Brandon's finger to be ok (and for him to play less minutes), and we need to see continued improvement from Greg like we saw tonight.  

Given those 3 open questions, the next month could play out in a lot of different ways.  Thankfully 8 of the next 12 are at home.  Max effort and a big win Tuesday against Sacramento would go a long way to restoring order after tonight's disappointment.

Since it's late and it was a flat Friday night crowd at the Rose Garden, there will not be Random Game Notes tonight. Sorry.

Nate's Postgame Comments

Nate, like Brandon, is unbelievably composed after a loss like that.  The faces of all the reporters were much longer than Nate's face tonight.  He briskly went through questions and hustled out.  

Nate on whether he talked to Steve about the missed free throws: "I talked to the team.  I thought these guys fought their behinds off to come back and play this game after all they've been face with. This earlier part of the season to losing a tough game to Orlando a couple of games ago, going to Utah, have to battle there, come here on a back to back and go into 2 overtimes and fight, they showed a lot of heart tonight."  

Nate on the execution at the end: "We had an opportunity, of course if we knock down the free throws it could have been different, then we need to make a stop and Davis hits a fadeaway 3 to tie the ball game."

Nate on whether he's frustrated: "You're up 3. You get a stop and you win that ball game.  We've seen two unbelievable shots go against us the last 2 games here."

Nate on whether it concerns him that teams can get to the basket: "Yeah that's something we've talked about and continued to work on. First controlling that ball outside and then our weakside giving help, being connected.  Davis made an unbelievable shot."

Nate on whether they are making progress on defense: "We've got to get better."

Nate on Zach Randolph: "You know he was going to try to have a big night.  I thought we worked hard to try to give him different looks. He made some shots, both he and Davis.  They were spreading the floor and trying to keep the ball in those two guys' hands.  He was able to knock down some shots. We know he can score.  We tried to mix up our defense on him."

Nate on the Clippers: "We know they have talent. We talked about that team not looking at their record.  Of course you have Davis and Zach and Camby. You've got some players on that team.  I think they expect to be better.  There was no way we could look at their record and play against the record."

Nate on Brandon Roy: "Down the stretch we've put the ball in his hands and he's done some unbelievable things this season for us.  A lot of it is creating his own and making reads when teams are double-teaming him.  He found Blake fora three. If they're giving him single coverage he's been able to keep us in the game.  As well as win some games. I think these last three games both he and LaMarcus have been big."

Nate on Blake's foul shooting"He's a 92, 93 percent free throw shooter.  We had our free throw shooters in.  It's just about stepping up and knocking them down."

Nate on whether to foul when up 3 or play straight up d: "No, we talked about that.  So many things can happen. For us we don't normally foul in that situation. If he shoots that ball and we grab him at the wrong time... the only way to lose is foul. If you foul them in motion and they score then it's a four point play.  We talke about it. We said we're going to play d.  Davis hit an unbelievable shot."

Nate on how the team works on free throws at practice: "You just work on it by yourself ."

Greg's Postgame Comments

Greg threw on a pair of jeans, grabbed his shirt and tried to hightail it out of the locker room but intrepid reporter Kerry Eggers was able to wrangle him in to answering questions.  Greg hesitated and sighed loudly when first asked for his thoughts but then he decided to stop and take questions for about 90 seconds.  Other than the Old Greg moment described earlier during the game, this was my favorite thing that happened tonight.  Greg needs to talk with the media. 

Here's what he had to say.

Greg on the loss: "We could have made some plays and we could have got that game. We just gonna come in tomorrow and work on it."

More Greg on the loss: "A couple of guys are tired. Travis is banged up. It was tough. We came out and worked. Things didn't fall our way."

Greg on whether the heart that was shown makes up for the loss: "We still lost.  All those losses are over there. Don't nobody know about the heart, they just know it's a loss. That's all they look for to get in the playoffs."

Greg on what's next in the coming days: "A couple of guys can get some time to heal up.  Take that time and take it easy."

CLICK THROUGH FOR PICTURES!

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Images (courtesy of the Portland Observer's Michael Tillery)

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How nice is it to see Coach Lucas smiling?  There's some perspective for you after a tough loss.

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Mensa Club, Portland Chapter Meeting: John Hollinger and Tom Penn solve the United States financial crisis and cure cancer.

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There were happier moments than this for Greg tonight.  He continues to put in quality time and effort pregame.

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This last picture is courtesy to BE Reader Joel.  Sums up tonight well, doesn't it?

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Oh Brandon

Please, let it be a sprain.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 12, 2008 11:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think we pay him enough that he needs to just cut it off...and play without it.

We should ask more of Brandon…he’s not doing enough for this team. Plus, he doesn’t need his right pinky since his left is stronger.

"I'm not depressed. I don't want to get too high on wins and too lows on losses. We have to work as a team to get better. This team has a lot of pressure and we have to continue to work" - Greg Oden, 12-12-2008

by broyposse on Dec 12, 2008 11:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ronnie Lott the sequel

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 12, 2008 11:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

and tape Brandon’s pink into Blake’s hands.

"I'm not depressed. I don't want to get too high on wins and too lows on losses. We have to work as a team to get better. This team has a lot of pressure and we have to continue to work" - Greg Oden, 12-12-2008

by broyposse on Dec 12, 2008 11:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ouch

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 12, 2008 11:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

so if hes out we would start rudy

and if outlaw isnt right, or doesnt get his confidence back if his body is right, then…. well, more bayless, for one thing, at 2g…. and probably some pretty hard times.

ignacio

by ignacio on Dec 12, 2008 11:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ay, ay, ay!

No Brandon = No Bueno

by PhiSlamaJama on Dec 12, 2008 11:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Tape it like Kobe ;-)

Dislocation wouldn’t be good. Torn ligament would be worse. But you can still play if it’s the pinky.

Viva la Rudylucion

by Norsktroll on Dec 12, 2008 11:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

As always will wait to hear more

But any extended time off for Roy and our nice start to the season would be in jeopardy. Unless of course Bayless just takes over.

"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.

by blazermaniac32 on Dec 12, 2008 11:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Perfect ending

to a perfect day :(

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 12, 2008 11:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I mean...

Walton hurting his foot when we were 42-10 (?) was pretty brutal.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 12, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Who's Walton?

"I'm not depressed. I don't want to get too high on wins and too lows on losses. We have to work as a team to get better. This team has a lot of pressure and we have to continue to work" - Greg Oden, 12-12-2008

by broyposse on Dec 12, 2008 11:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At least you understand where I'm coming from

I guess if you go back 30 years, you’ll find something close….

by as11osu on Dec 12, 2008 11:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So was the entire

71-72 season. I mean the entire season.

So was every minute Larue Martin played after we drafted him #1.

Incredible, really. We got a road win at Toronto, and we played two close home games. I remember entire seasons where we didn’t think we’d get any road wins, and a lot of home games weren’t close.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 12, 2008 11:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The bright side

The team has raised the level of expectations for this season with the start they had. I know 2-3 years is supposed to be when the championship widow opens, but from what we’ve seen this team could make some noise in the playoffs this year depending on the matchup

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 12, 2008 11:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

by the time we make the playoffs...there won't be any fans left...

heart attacks, depression, jumping off cliffs…based on the reactions, us Fans will pull a Walton and don’t make it through a full season.

"I'm not depressed. I don't want to get too high on wins and too lows on losses. We have to work as a team to get better. This team has a lot of pressure and we have to continue to work" - Greg Oden, 12-12-2008

by broyposse on Dec 13, 2008 12:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Please don't bring LaRue up.

I get flashbacks when Greg gets a dunk attempt blocked.

"Maurice Lucas walked past, and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his playing career, because, "Back then, it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth.""

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 13, 2008 12:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

... or when he shot the air-ball on the dunk attempt.

"Maurice Lucas walked past, and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his playing career, because, "Back then, it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth.""

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 13, 2008 12:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

rec

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 12, 2008 11:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i've erased everything in memory during the jailblazers era.

"I'm not depressed. I don't want to get too high on wins and too lows on losses. We have to work as a team to get better. This team has a lot of pressure and we have to continue to work" - Greg Oden, 12-12-2008

by broyposse on Dec 12, 2008 11:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Z-Bo was the icing on the cake this week.

"I'm not depressed. I don't want to get too high on wins and too lows on losses. We have to work as a team to get better. This team has a lot of pressure and we have to continue to work" - Greg Oden, 12-12-2008

by broyposse on Dec 12, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing that would have been worse

is if it had been Miles. I almost want him to come back just so I could be in the RG to see what happens when he came to town, there would be some hatred in the atmosphere

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 12, 2008 11:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think our very own

BlazermaniacAndy would rush the court and take out Darius’ knee… while screaming “Go to Blazersedge!” at the top of his lungs.

Class act, our Andy.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 12, 2008 11:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's PG 13

compared to some of the things I think Blazer fans would want to do to Darius, I would just laugh to hear his name announced to a hail of boos

Bayless has been testing the fences for weaknesses

by blazeraddict on Dec 12, 2008 11:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At least

we’re in a part of the schedule where there is some time between games, so as long as it isn’t major, he can get some rest and heal up a little.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 12, 2008 11:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I have watched Oden's interview with Kamla three times.

Great job by Kamla asking good questions. And a wonderful interview by Greg becaues he smiled… and told us everything was okay. He’s a really good kid.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 12, 2008 11:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

link?

ROTUNDITYDOTNET

Founder of the "Crash Batumcoot" Movement.

by damir on Dec 12, 2008 11:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Interview

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 12, 2008 11:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thank you for that

i feal very calm about our future with greg

Travis please save us

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge

by maid tu rek on Dec 13, 2008 6:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 12, 2008 11:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta say

How does Nate justify playing Oden 42 minutes and Joel 15 at this point? That strikes me as very strange.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 13, 2008 12:16 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

gotta be confidence and conditioning

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

by BlazerFan1 on Dec 13, 2008 12:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if it had been 1 48 min game it wouldnt be so noticeable

ut with the 2OT — nate is of that old school coaching that you dont substitute in OT….ive seen it with lots of others. it’s not someting i totally ‘get.’

ignacio

by ignacio on Dec 13, 2008 12:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Joel hasn't been the same since he had that nasty roll on his ankle...

we need him for 82 this year and hopefully this year he bucks his trend of not making it through all 82.

"I'm not depressed. I don't want to get too high on wins and too lows on losses. We have to work as a team to get better. This team has a lot of pressure and we have to continue to work" - Greg Oden, 12-12-2008

by broyposse on Dec 13, 2008 12:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

good point

hes likely playing thru some pain

ignacio

by ignacio on Dec 13, 2008 12:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

im watching the replay of the game.

hoping for a different outcome this time around.

"I saw him in the face"

by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 13, 2008 1:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

thanks ignacio.

we’re down 57-54 at the half. JAY BAY hit a three though so im happy.

"I saw him in the face"

by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 13, 2008 2:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Travis please save us

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge

by maid tu rek on Dec 13, 2008 6:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LET

it go guys… I have said this for the past 8 months.. LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS!! You dont just become an elite team in 8 months by adding 4 good rookies to the roster.

by Stegie33 on Dec 13, 2008 2:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Too much analysis.

Game Analysis – The Blazers were exhausted, but somehow collectively played just well enough to beat the lowly Clippers.

Game Summary – Blake only had to make a miserable 2 out of 5 free throws in the last 20 seconds and we win. But Blake choked – fatigue was probably a factor. Hero Sunday, goat today.

Action Required – Everybody just go home and get some sleep.

Rudy in particular has never experienced anything like playing 25 games with an average of 1.8 days per game. He was so tired the last two games he was passing up open 3-point shots he knew he wouldn’t make late in the games. How tired is that?

This Fan’s Reaction – I can’t believe they are practicing tomorrow. That’s just stupid.

"Maurice Lucas walked past, and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his playing career, because, "Back then, it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth.""

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 13, 2008 3:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

that was my first reaction

but now i like the ida of a light to mediam practice, get in some good and rest with that. were still to young to leave a bunch of negative in their heads to just sit there.

Travis please save us

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge

by maid tu rek on Dec 13, 2008 6:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Ben

for staying up late to do this on a night that has to have been kind of a downer for you.

They’ll be ok. Light practice, running through some sets, etc., shoot a few free throws just for Steve, put up a few 3s just for Rudy. Home early.

Just go get the Kings in a couple days.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 13, 2008 5:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

mmm....

so are we officially in a funk right now?

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Dec 13, 2008 6:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Unlike Travis however...

Rudy continued to play hard on his way to 11 rebounds…second most rebounds on the team from the backup 2 slot shows at least he is giving effort even when his shot is not falling.

He only took two real inadvisable shots, and a guy like Rudy can’t just stop shooting…especially when no one else besides Roy and Aldridge were credible offensive threats.

Rooo-D!

by truls on Dec 13, 2008 6:52 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

BTW....the 4-5 idiots that were banging their thundersticks on the blazer's end while Blake was shooting should have been shot

Having just a few of those things waving around is more distracting then a whole wall of them….not giving an excuse to Blake, but yikes what ignorant fans

Rooo-D!

by truls on Dec 13, 2008 6:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I missed the entire game

So not only did my DVR and DirecTV not record the game, and NBA broadband isn’t working right now to just watch it (and trying not to see the score the whole time), but we actually ended up losing.

To the Clippers.

Dammit.

Well, without seeing the game and just reading the recaps, I vote Rudy takes all crunch time FTs from now on. THERE, ARMCHAIR COACHING ACCOMPLISHED.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 13, 2008 7:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ben, you sound as p*ssed off as us...you alright?????

"I'm not depressed. I don't want to get too high on wins and too lows on losses. We have to work as a team to get better. This team has a lot of pressure and we have to continue to work" - Greg Oden, 12-12-2008

by broyposse on Dec 13, 2008 8:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

lol i was just tired… like anybody, i hate losing games like that…

Draft Kyle Singler.

by Ben. on Dec 13, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i don't feel that bad

you have to hand it to the clippers, they made the right shots at the right time and fought pretty hard in a very difficult place to win at. i’d like to stop blaming blazers for a second and give the clips some credit where due.

These new clips are like the blazers, they have tons o’ talent and shooters, but no one knows how they’ll gel, well i guess we’ve seen that if you have a lot of great players that can shoot and your stroke is hitting, than simply a collection of scorers can win, especially against mediocre to piss poor perimeter D (not complaining, just stating a fact).

by appel82 on Dec 13, 2008 8:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Three things happened this week

1) Roy takes next step in evolution as a star
2) LMA going to the rack. A lot. And scoring.
3) Greg playing big minutes, continues to improve, showing signs.

These are good things. As fans, we are in it for the long term and while three losses are a bummer, we have seen stuff this week that makes the future look a lot brighter.

Oh, and for all of you that have been wanting to trade our depth for one big piece right now, no thinks.

by raoulduke on Dec 13, 2008 9:18 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

BTW

Some idiot flipped of the big screen at the game while they were on camera. Stay classy. That dude must think he’s so coooool.

ROTUNDITYDOTNET

Founder of the "Crash Batumcoot" Movement.

by damir on Dec 13, 2008 9:48 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

3 Questions I have for this week

1) Does Blakes pinache for hitting big 3s and good FT% outweigh his lackluster court vision, perimeter D, and driving ability?

2) Could the Greg improve up his ‘Show up and make a slight difference’ ratio to 1 for every 3 games played?

3) Will Webster help Roy in regards to being another man who can drive to the basket and get the score/foul when the team’s offense is sluggish?

The loss to the clips i didnt mind as i could see the team looked tired. But watching last nights play up close only reinforced these thoughts i’ve been having over the last 2 weeks.

What do you guys think? are these questions: (a)warranted (b)unwarranted, but i like you ©warranted, but you’re still a jerk (d)unwarranted, and you’re a jerk

thanks -net

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Dec 13, 2008 10:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Warranted, and I don't know if you're a jerk

1) Depends on how strong the rest of the team is. Right now, we really could use a better PG. If Greg becomes all most of us expect on both offense and defense, Steve’s defensive liabilities are less important and his 3 pt shooting becomes more valuable. So the jury is still out on this one.
2) I don’t know if he can improve on that yet or not. But he certainly will as he gets in better condition and regains confidence. I’m very sure on this one. I know the impact of trying to recover from serious injury/illness, and it plays games with your mind as well as your body. But it eventually comes, and it will for him, too. We see glimpses of it. A fair question, but there’s lots of history to back me up on this. Amare had similar problems — some people thought he was finished.
3) I hope so. If not, perhaps Greg becomes a big enough threat inside to eliminate that need. Or perhaps Rudy learns to fill that role. If not Greg, Rudy, or Martell, KP will have to use his cap space to get someone. I’m pretty optimistic that Greg will be an offensive force by this time next year, eliminating the need you describe. I’m less optimistic that Martell will fill that need. I think he’ll be great for spreading the floor, a good rebounder, and a good defender, who can occasionally take it to the hoop. But I don’t really expect Martell to be what you’re describing here. So if Greg can’t become our second option on offense, we will need something. Travis has the talent, but not the mindset.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 13, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Blazers are doing better than anyone expected

at this point. This last week means that the schedule caught up with them and they ran out of gas.

Everyone who should be getting better, is getting better. Injuries matter. There are a lot of rookies in the rotation.

Try to think long term, not about what individual player did not live up to expectations in a particular 30 second stretch of play.

by raoulduke on Dec 13, 2008 10:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Big Game for Roy = Loss

That’s right- keep relying on the “stars” and watch the losses mount. Basketball is a team game, and lack of ball movement coupled with pillow-fight defense will always yield a “W.” Get a clue, “heroes.”

If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.

by CosmoPlavix on Dec 13, 2008 11:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wrong

The reason we’ve lost the last three games is a lack of contribution from Blake, Batum, Rudy, Outlaw and Frye (not that he counts).

The Blazers didn’t rely on Roy intentionally. He was forced to take over the game because his teammates sucked. You are confusing cause and effect here. We didn’t lose because we relied on Roy. We lost because Roy’s teammates didn’t do jack to help him win and forced him to be the hero. Roy would rather play 30 minutes, score 17 points and celebrate the 4th quarter sitting on the bench.

We need role players who are consistent and Blake, Rudy and the rest of the gang have been woefully inconsistent.

Basketball is a team game and it’s the teammates fault, not Roy’s.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Frye does count

If he were coming in and contributing, we’d have won two of the three. All we needed was one more stop, one more shot to drop, one more key rebound, one of our role players to make one more play. Everyone who went on the court had a chance to make that one more play.

Channing has the talent, he produced last year when he got big minutes, but he hasn’t figured out how to be a role player off the bench. That tells me it is mental. That is hurting the team as much as the lack of contribution from the other guys. We have three weak positions right now, and backup PF is one of them. Channing counts as much as anybody.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 13, 2008 12:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Channing has played himself out of “counting” in my book. I don’t even expect anything out of him anymore because I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect him to do any good for the team. That’s probably a pissed off mad hungover fan’s view of Channing, and not completely accurate, but that’s my view nonetheless.

Channing has “talent” in a physical sense. But he doesn’t have the “it”/mental factor you mention to be a professional basketball player. He just doesn’t get it, know how to be a role player. He’s also not tough enough. Some “nice guys” can turn on the killer mentality on the basketball, like Brandon. But Channing just plays like a sissy.

Great guy off the court; liability on the court.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not completely accurate

He was good on the boards all year last year, ranked highly in rebounds per 48. Turned into a double-double machine when Joel went down.

Sissy? He leads the team in hard fouls the last two years.

But I agree his problem is mental. He seems to be the type who can bring it when getting the minutes, but not as a bit player. Unfortunately for him, that’s all he’ll be on this team is a bit player, unless we have another injury.

I’ve been one of his biggest supporters. I even wrote a fan post last year on all the reasons we should keep him. But he’s even losing me.

Channing is this year’s Jarrett Jack. The only difference is that he gets fewer minutes than Jarrett got, and we don’t really have anyone behind him who has convinced the fan base that they deserve the minutes, either. Otherwise, the Channing hate would be sky-rocketing.

I still hope he can turn it around.

Do you like asparagus?

by jscot on Dec 13, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

flagrant fouls are cowardly

I hope he can turn it around. I also hope I win the lottery.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The flagrant foul was a terrible call.

Turrible. - Elgin

It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown

by 22baylor on Dec 14, 2008 4:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

he got like 90% ball…. what the heck.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 14, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

That was one of the most misguided, incorrect comments I have read in quite a while. Not only was it factually incorrect, it was snotty and condescending (which always goes well with ’wrong’). I hope it was written sarcastically, but the sig leads me to believe otherwise.

Basically, Roy played great (and had 9 assists) on a night when the important role players didn’t do their roles. This wasn’t a me-first ballhog game, this was a played-great-but-the-loss-was-in-the-hands-of-those-who-didn’t-play-great-game.

And as we can clearly see, even if Roy/Oden/LMA had good to great games even all in the same game, we need at least one of the main role players to provide something on a night where the other team ain’t just rolling over and playing dead. Rudy shot like crap, Blake choked, no one provided the help our core needed to win this game.

Usually, this is a win. Crazy crap had to happen to lose it. Blaming that on Roy, BRANDON ROY, who played his heart out for an entire game and two overtimes, is crazy sauce… not when it’s pretty easy to see where the game was ‘lost’.

The Clippers had one of (if not THE) best game of their season, we had some good individual efforts but some of the other individuals didn’t join in to help the team. It happens.

Ain’t Roy, or any of the main core’s, fault. Blake has done enough to earn a bad (ending to a) game, and crap happens so I ain’t mad at him either. Just one of those things that happen in basketball.

It’s the wrong game to choose to lambast the over-reliance on ‘stars’.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 13, 2008 8:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's 10 days down in Cali

The last gun I bought (in Oregon), there was no wait. They did an instant check via the Internets at Bi-Mart.

Does anyone love Bi-Mart in a weird way like I do?

But to answer your question, Blog comments don’t kill people, people kill people.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

what about Bi-Mart?

Would you describe it as woefully white trash, or a nice place to find bargains?

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like it

I went to it all the time in Woodstock.

by tominhawaii on Dec 13, 2008 3:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

I used to work nearby. Never went inside because it looked like a pretty run down version.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 3:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bi-Mart rocks

It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown

by 22baylor on Dec 14, 2008 4:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if Elgin Baylor says so

(even if he won’t admit to being the actual Elgin Baylor) it must be true.

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 14, 2008 2:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Just watched the DVR.

That was a rough one. Roy continues to look unstoppable, Alridge looked pretty good, Greg was solid, Joel was solid (I agree with comments above – he’s got to play more), and everyone else was pretty terrible/non-existant.

Hate to state the obvious, but… absolute world class choke job by Blake. I love him, but… no two ways about it. Missing 4 out of 5 in the last minute is pretty amazing.

Gotta get SOMETHING from SOMEONE down the stretch, other than Brandon. He’s getting no help right now. Guys look very tentative.

Why did Nate tease us with Bayless? Why play him for two minutes in the first quarter then yank him even though he looked pretty good. A couple ticky tack fouls? They were tough rookie calls and I liked his aggressiveness.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Dec 13, 2008 1:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

There is no one way to win

But hanging it all on Roy offensively is not going to be an easy way for this team to win.

I have a tendency to fault the coach for a one dimensional offense. But I guess coach only has as many dimensions as he has.

So we haven’t had the critical mass of scorers lately to create some offensive flow.

People talk about needing someone to penetrate, get to the basket. The thing about Rudy/Sergio, they depend upon ball movement and finding the seam in the defense to penetrate. Roy and Aldridge, on the other hand, depend upon isos and pick and rolls.

The other players on this team have varying comfort levels with the Rudy/Sergio thing.

Throughout the season I have been looking for the synergy of these two styles being a net plus. Thought I saw it against Orlando.

This team is still experimental. This is BRoy trial 3-b. The Latin strain!

Wonder if it will work!

by Blazin' on Dec 13, 2008 1:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

missed most of the game

I saw the 2nd half including the end of regulation, but missed the overtimes (I was at work). Z-bo looked unconscionable.

Come on Nate. More minutes for Frye under these Outlawless circumstances. Diogu should have had a chance to raise a few welts on Z-bo too. – Elgin

It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown

by 22baylor on Dec 14, 2008 4:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The game review from the Clippers blog was funny - their editor watched the whole game on DVR thinking the Clips had lost ;-)

http://www.clipsnation.com/2008/12/13/691351/clippers-120-portland-112

Interesting observations regarding the Blazers:

Brandon Roy is really, really good. Did I already mention that? Man, he’s good.

Rudy Fernandez is good too. But it is interesting that Roy’s dominance of the ball in late game situations seems to take everyone else out of the flow. It’s worth noting that Roy set his season high for the third consecutive game – and the Blazers lost all three. They are 0-3 when he scores 30 or more. Nate McMillan should probably make a note of that.

Viva la Rudylucion

by Norsktroll on Dec 14, 2008 3:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

boo to the brandon conclusion.

batum 2 of 6, blake 4 of 9, rudy 2 for 11, bayless 1 of 3, sergio 1 of 4, frye 0 of 2….

we missed travis badly.

brandon is going to get 30 when 6 of his teammates are combining for 10 of 35.

Draft Kyle Singler.

by Ben. on Dec 14, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

double boo

I hate these people saying that crap about Brandon.

Rudy, Blake, Outlaw (sorry injured boy), Sergio, Frye… if those guys didn’t suck on ocassion, Roy wouldn’t have to take over the game.

Roy shot 50% from the field. That’s efficient enough.

Don’t blame Brandon, blame his shoddy teammates (not talking about LMA, Oden or Joel).

People drive me nuts with these terrible conclusions about Brandon.

“Nate… should probably make a note of that.” Yeah right.

Your blogging sucks when you don’t know what you’re talking about Mr. Clipper dude. Your conscience should take a note of that!

by Bust a Bucket on Dec 14, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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