Post Game Reaction Thread
by Ben Golliver on Dec 11, 2008 10:18 PM PST
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Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
shall be first
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
by prezofdeath on Dec 11, 2008 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
and the first shall be last
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
by prezofdeath on Dec 11, 2008 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
god bless your heart
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 11, 2008 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
BLAZERS LOST IM SAD
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 11, 2008 10:20 PM PST reply actions
They went to heck in the basket
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
text from the team…
“brandon roy ties career high with 33 points. posts first career back to back 30+ points.”
Draft Kyle Singler.
was that on the BAT phone? ;o)
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
by prezofdeath on Dec 11, 2008 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
no! but the bat fone is on vibrate and is shaking like crazy lolol
Draft Kyle Singler.
by Ben Golliver on Dec 11, 2008 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
Is there a lady in the house?
Keep her away from it. It is for her own good, too much negative energy.
by tominhawaii on Dec 11, 2008 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
careful now
I hope you don’t carry the bat phone in the front pocket of your pants. That would be bat phone abuse.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
I wish Outlaw, Blake, Rudy, Sergio
or anyone else could have hit a few more shots.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
No help for our Big Two tonight
and in the first half Roy and Aldridge defense was very poor as well. But despite that, we hit a couple of threes and we are right there.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 11, 2008 10:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Portland needs to do a better job
of putting pressure on the PG. Williams was able to get wherever he wanted/initiate the offense at will. If his shot was falling, it would have been ugly, but he was dropping dimes. PG play will be huge over the course of the season.
I agree....
why didn’t we send another defender at Williams when he was on the perimeter? We never even tried it once.
I can't stand it
I absolutely hate it when the referees hand the game to one team or the other. Just look back at the 2 or 3 minute stretch that ended with Utah up 37-27. Horrible officiating.
Blazers may not have won anyhow. To my eyes, they pretty much looked awful. Can someone who knows this game better than I do tell me why in the world they don’t freaking move without the ball, set screens, pass effectively??? What’s with all the isolations?
Open invitation: all you who are self-proclaimed ping pong experts. If you think you can beat me - or if you just want to see how it's really played: cdd37@yahoo.com. This means you, too, Jerryd.
Rule #1 of being a Blazers fan
If we ever lose, it’s the refs fault.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
So that's why I hate the refs so much.....
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
Rule #2 of being a Blazers fan
It’s always the refs fault.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Always, Always, Always, Always...
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
YEAH
but there were a lot of phantom calls there at the beginning of the game. Don’t care about that because good teams can still win, but I was scratching my head on a number of calls and looking at the 9/10 ft for the jazz and the 0/0 for the blazers. I also noted that the only fouls were not in the act of shooting.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
No no no
not that at all. The Blazers did not play well, I acknowledge that.
I want to know why, when Sergio drove and got hammered to the floor, there wasn’t a foul on Utah. Why, when Kirilenko hacked Rudy and “stole” the ball, there was no foul on Utah? Why, when Channing blocked a shot, it was called a flagrant foul? Why, when Okur flopped like a fish out of water, was it called a foul on Greg Oden? The officiating was NOT good. Period.
Open invitation: all you who are self-proclaimed ping pong experts. If you think you can beat me - or if you just want to see how it's really played: cdd37@yahoo.com. This means you, too, Jerryd.
portland isnt a motion offense
i believe if your name isnt lamarcus or roy, you’re instructed to clear out and watch. it works for them though… or it has been.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
i want to drain my sorrows in some pasti.
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 11, 2008 10:23 PM PST reply actions
Bad outside shooting. Rudy and Blake were off from outside today. On a regular night we would have had a chance
And Travis with a big 0 in the scoring department. Wonder who had that in the jersey contest :)
Viva la Rudylucion
6-27 from 3
Jazz played aggressive defense and the refs rewarded them for it.
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 11, 2008 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
The refs contributed, but they didn't make us miss shots. Own fault. And I hate blaming refs every game we lose
Viva la Rudylucion
by Norsktroll on Dec 11, 2008 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I didnt blame the refs
I said the Jazz played aggressive defense.
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 11, 2008 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
You can get me started! Go ahead, get me started...
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
Oooooo, I hate it when that happens!!!!!!!!!!!
I am gonna moytalyze them…..
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
I heard the refs yell things at Rudy/Blake and Outlaw before they took shots
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
I would call it a conspiracy
but is it even a conspiracy if it’s not a secret?
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
It is if I say so.....
and I am saying so…
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Blazers and Mavs
I liked the old Suns, but never a fan. So I have reason to hate refereeing in the NBA, but still I don’t blame them alone
Viva la Rudylucion
Dang those Zebras! Why can't they just stay in the zoo where they belong......
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
It's unnatural I tells ya!
Zebras should never play any kind of pool. They don’t even have thumbs!
Lack of thumbs on zebras lost us this game.
WORD!
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
yep, if Blake/Outlaw/Rudy shoot their percentages on those open looks
we’re right in the ball game.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
The Blazers are like a cheap wine
They need to age to become finer (players).
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
Spill the wine, dig that girl...
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
I hate Utah
because they have DWill, who is my favorite non-blazer player.
Goat of the game: Sergio
He's a great player
PG version of Brandon physically; not the fastest/best shooter/best vert, but an absolute technician who can hurt you in a number of ways.
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
I love his all around game and his leadership.
Very low key and classy.
by premthegrem on Dec 11, 2008 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Mmmk.
So, we shot poorly from three. Abysmally. There were a few iffy calls.
But let’s look on the bright side, shall we?
We know the Blazers aren’t contenders this year. While I like seeing wins, there are a few things that have to happen for the Blazers to be contenders in 2009-10 and beyond.
1. Greg Oden needs to regain his fluid athleticism. I thought he seemed a bit more in control tonight. Had a very nice play against Milsap where he forced the awkward fadeaway “blech” shot.
2. Lamarcus Aldridge needs to man up and become a tough, “take-no-crap” power forward. He disappeared tonight for two quarters, but had a few plays where he got ticked at Milsap in the fourth that i really liked.
3. We need a small forward and point guard. Less than superb play by the bench tonight. Hopefully it gets better.
The Jazz are good at home. I’m more worried about the Clips tomorrow night.
honor rasheed wallace
yeah
Oden had a nice 4th quarter. His D in the first half was bad and his ball handling in the 3rd quarter was ghastly though.
Boomshakalaka
I'm more concerned about him regaining his athleticism.
The other stuff will come eventually. I just want to see the fluid, quick, beast that was at Ohio State.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
a combination of back luck (bad calls) and bad shooting
killed the blazers tonight. turkish dudes love to beat up on the blazers. this loss was to be expected though. But the Orlando loss was not so i was hoping that the 2nd unit could actually be effective tonight, but their offense wasn’t clicking and our center tandem was pretty non prolific scoring wise.
The voice of reason.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
point guard play was ABYSMAL
also why does this team look so lost against traps against roy and aldridge
Seriously what is up with Travis
He has been in a multi week slump. So has Batum. That’s not helping matters. It’s like Martell came back for a couple of minutes and their games went in the crapper.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 11, 2008 10:25 PM PST reply actions
I think your right!
Dang him!
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 11, 2008 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
did you know that the original flushing toilets were built by a company named "Crapper"
Crapper was the family name of the guy who started the company. All the toilets had the name Crapper on them.
The term “crap,” as in “take a crap,” is a back formation of the word (which started as a personal pronoun) crapper.
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
LOL! I mean it LOL!
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
It's true
Jon Crapper invented the darn things.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
I purposely picked the Jazz.
So I would either be elated if the Blazers won, and if they lost I would have at least a good jersey contest showing.
honor rasheed wallace
Well I was third in the whole thing
before Hedo hit that dumb shot. This helps me out a bit.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
I had twenty.
Ugh. I was on such a roll after my 86 at toronto.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
Choose your own loss adventure
- Ineffective PGs on both sides of the court
-LMA launching contested 20 footers and disappearing on the glass
-Over reliance on outside shooting
-Giving up transition points while not scoring any easy buckets
-Disappearance of SFs
LMA did disappear on the glass while playing 42 min, but he shot well.
I can pretty much use this as a template now.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
I'll take #1
Not a good effort at PG at all
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
What are your thoughts on Gerald Wallace as a Blazer?
Seems like he’d help in transition… might attack the rim a bit.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
Serious answer
Grant Hill would be a great veteran presence, but I don’t think Phoenix is ready to go fire sale yet
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
Wallace wouldn't fit as a Blazer
He’s a finisher, O. Rebounder, and good help defender. Blazers actually need better man-to-man defenders and ball handlers. Wallace would not be effective with Nate as coach. He’s kind of a wild man.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Interesting.
Sounds like you are in the Tayshaun Prince-type player camp. Hard to get someone as good as him though.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah.
We just need someone to get Joe Dumars drunk. Sophia?
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
I hear Paul Allen is working on a time machine
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
you mean Shane Battier of today?
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
You need to add
Dean Demopoulos to that template.
I think if you go back and look at every game the Blazers lost this year, Demopoulos was on the sidelines. Tough to argue with that evidence.
Somewhere someone in the world was pooping during every loss this year.
Every last one.
Incontrovertible!
nonsense.
people poop during wins, too.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
That's a highly suspect statistic.
Even if true, it’s likely a coincidence. Clearly we need a larger pooping sample size.
Poo Poo platters for everyone!!!
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
The SF position is a big concern right now
Batum is regressing to the mean (not unexpected- he’s a raw 19 year old) and Travis is not getting it done.
Boomshakalaka
hey now!
it was against a good team.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
Agreed
Get well soon Martell. Batum will be very good, but this year is going to be a learning experience.
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
I think it was huge, Martell getting hurt.
I wanted to see what we had in him… oh well. One more month.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
I think you hit it on the head.
Funny thing is, Roy seems to be doing better scoring wise at the 3, so maybe the 3 guard lineup works out and Roy really does become our version of Paul Pierce (but can finish with the left hand). Outlaw’s 3pt shot is coming back down to earth and his amazingly bad driving ability has been exposed. All he has left is his signature jumper, which has been scouted to death by the entire league.
by premthegrem on Dec 11, 2008 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
I want to get in on all the fun here
I want to have my very own Blazer to hate; someone to blame after a loss.
Travis, Greg, LaMarcus, Sergio, Nate – they’re all booked up. No more room on their dance cards.
So Demopoulos is my guy. My excoriation will be unrelenting.
Because of him
There is a chance that the Blazers go into the Boston game with a 9 game losing streak.
by tominhawaii on Dec 11, 2008 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Not everyone is hating
People are just making observations and critiques of the team.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Whoa! No hatin' on LMA dang it!
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
Oden was terrible tonight...
I don’t care so much about his offensive game, but his defense tonight was bad…and that is an understatement.
Did you notice
Oden was seated next to Demopoulos on the bench for most of the game.
Coincidence? I think not.
Ooh.
You are on to something… maybe he is Communist… or a Laker fan. I shudder to think of the possibilites.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
I thought you said
“Confidence? I think not.”
Rudy missed a Ft!!!
what is the world coming to???
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Dec 11, 2008 10:33 PM PST reply actions
Crazy stat:
Blake 5 assists, 0 turnovers
Sergio 0 assists, 4 turnovers
How often does Sergio have a bagel in assists? Wow.
Boomshakalaka
One, he's not as good as his homers said he was after last game
and Two, the guys he was playing with couldn’t hit a J to save themselves.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
well I hope he is felafel about it
when you get a bagel in assists you might as well be felafel about it and not too down.
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
too bad Roy can't play 48 minutes a night
he did play a lot of minutes tonight though. probably too many minutes.
but I gotta say Sergio and Oden looked bad tonight. Oden looked bad because he missed too many easy points and he was flat footed on defense. Our defense improved markedly whenever Pryz came into the game. Oden looked really quite awful on defense.
Sergio took some ill advised shots and played lousy defense too. I wonder if Sergio will ever be able to play decent defense. honestly. his lateral movement seems so clumsy out there, like his legs don’t work right or something. sometimes I look at his legs and they look like the legs of a desk or something. just not very mobile.
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
i liked how roy recognized in the 3rd that the Blazers were going to need him
he stepped up, too bad no one else could make shots
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Dec 11, 2008 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
Trade Outlaw, Sergio, Frye and RLEC for a good player
and start playing Bayless.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
sign and trade Isaiah Thomas too
he can come out of retirement, right?
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Not Sergio, he finally has it going
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Total and utter crap
I wonder if Sergio will ever be able to play decent defense.
HE was not the issue on defense tonight. Deron Williams was 5 for 16 from the floor. Thats freakin 31%. Its not his fault our bigs don’t know where to be on the defensive end. Yet another example of Sergio getting blamed on defense for things he had no control over. Its sickening and it happens every other loss. Bush league excuse… pay attention to the game.
What I saw in that game is that his outside shot is still as flat as the earth in the 14th century
But agreed, he can’t be blamed on a loss when Rudy, Blake, Outlaw all have an off night.
Viva la Rudylucion
Williams didn't shoot well
but Sergio and Blake didn’t do a good job keeping him out of the lane. I’d like to see the guards at least make it somewhat difficult for the other team to get into their sets, especially a precision team like Utah. The big men did nothing to help on the pick and roll, but Williams poor shooting was more on him than anything Portland did defensively. Bad team effort on that end of the floor all around.
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
You're right
His poor defense was overshadowed by even worse ball management and shooting.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
Sergio alone can't be blamed for the loss
but he was awful tonight. His worse game of the year.
"Maurice Lucas walked past, and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his playing career, because, "Back then, it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth.""
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 11, 2008 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
Uh, no...
Williams went by Sergio a number of times tonight forcing our bigs had to come over to help, thus opening up Okur, Millsap, Harpring, for easy buckets. Blake wasn’t much better but he had zero TO’s.
Any way you look at it. Sergio made bad decisions tonight. Period.
When your're missing 3's...
…take the ball to the hole…draw a foul. I believe we had them in the penalty midway trhough the 4th. We would have been shooting free thows and stopping the clock. If you live by the 3… you will die by it. Bottom line Jazz got to the basket…Blazers did not.
You are absolutely right...
I don’t think this team has an option for getting to the basket except Roy and Aldridge. Rudy and Sergio made some attempts, but were unsuccessful. I still didn’t get why either Oden or Joel did not stand in front of the basket, catch the ball and dunk…then repeat.
The Greg will just get the ball slapped away from his big, strong hands
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
We are an excellent shooting team
that’s what we do. If you want to advocate signing someone who can penetrate, fine. However, the players that we have are good shooters and need to play to their strengths.
Boomshakalaka
But we were off tonight...
so when that happens get into the lane and either get fouled or score in close. Too bad we don’t have many players who can do that well.
exactly the only players who can do that are Roy and maybe Rudy to some extend.
honor rasheed wallace
Fire Demopoulos
Because if you don’t, the terrorists win.
I wanna see Rexy.
He has a lot of things this team lacks. He could be a big piece in two years if we get him time now.
honor rasheed wallace
I am worried about the Clips.
I have some horrible feeling about them having an obscenely good shooting night where every crazy three Baron throws up goes in…. ugh.
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by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2008 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
me too, Brandon and LMA played a lot of minutes tonight i expect some tired legs
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I have a feeling Randolph and Baron are going to light it up against the Blazers "D"
They’ve been off since Monday.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
I have a feeling Randolph is going to try his darndest to get a 20/10... and succeed...
but end up going 9 for 27 and shooting his team right out of the game.
Boomshakalaka
it's funny how all the BEdgers come stampeding over to this vent thread when the game is over.
we really are herd animals aren’t we? Nietzsche was mostly correct about the human condition.
"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."
MT Suit, 11/25/08
it's hard to switch gears
whether it’s a win or loss, and i don’t wan’t to hear Barkley talk about how turrible our jumpshooting was
Moooo!
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Worse news than the Blazers losing to the Jazz
Tyler Perry has a new show on tbs. wtf. That makes two too many.
Everybody slamming LMA for disappearing,
we need to realize that the blazers were a 2 headed beast tonight, and one head is still less developed than the other. They let Brandon torch them, but doubled LMA the rest of the way. He was best when he caught the ball and immediately went into a scoring motion, not giving the double team a chance to develop. He has evolved his game now to the point where teams have to double him to keep him from scoring at will, which is a testament to his development.
/s How come nobody is slamming Steve Blake for disappearing? He wasn’t drawing doubles was he?
who's slamming LMA?
LMA was solid tonight. An appearance from Blake, Travolis Outum, Oden, Rudy or Sergio could have won us this game.
Boomshakalaka
You've been shadowing him since his slump,
and said he disappeared in the second and 3rd quarters.
by premthegrem on Dec 11, 2008 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
well, he did disappear-- but it wasn't totally his fault
Utah double teamed him well.
I really like what I’ve seen from him the last 3 games. If he can shoot ~50% and average around 8 boards a game the rest of the season, I will gladly shut up about how he is overrated. It’s the 42% shooting, 4 rebound/game LMA who gets called out by me.
Boomshakalaka
I can appreciate the fact that you have high expectations
Actually to be honest, I think I was disappointed about the fact that he wasn’t doing what he did in the 4th in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. I want to see him play with more consistency in every quarter, rather than him put up Martell-like numbers in 5 minutes and then fade for the rest of the half. So in a sense, I was slamming myself, lol.
by premthegrem on Dec 11, 2008 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Yah, I wanna know who was slamming LMA...
’cause I am gonna pulverize them…
Let me at em’….
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
please don't slam our only scoring big man. pleaaaaaaase!
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
Thats IT!!! I've had it with those Zebras! I am going to Moytalyze them!!!!!!!
Then I am gonna stick their faces in the feces!!!!!
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
several different players
He’s a tough matchup for us. LMA does the best job on him, but that’s not saying a ton.
Boomshakalaka
Demopoulos
was the architect of the defensive game plan for Okur.
’nuff said.
How many minutes did Demo play?
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 11, 2008 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Bring on Rex...
Perfect game to give him some minutes…We were down 16 and D WIll was all over the place. Sergio and Blake couldn’t hit a shot, couldn’t penetrate, couldn’t stop turning the ball over, couldn’t defend anyone including a hobbling D Will….Rex can at least give him the glare and a couple body bumps.
Playoff teams attack the hoop and get to the line. We have one person that does that and he can’t play all 5 positions at one time.
We can’t complain about the refs if we don’t attack the rim.
A wise man once said, “live by the 3, die by the 3…”
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I hope not
Blazers ain’t going anywhere with Sergio or Blake. At least Bayless could get some experience and develop. So we can see what we have on our hands.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Jerryd Bayless is a 20 year old rookie
Nate has decided that he is out of the rotation for now. The Blazers were in the game— it was not garbage time.
Jump shooting teams can win— see the Seattle Sonics a few years back (2nd round of the playoffs, took SA to 6 games) or Milwaukee Bucks w/ Cassell, Allen, Glenn Robinson— lost in game 7 of the East finals.
Boomshakalaka
I'm not saying it was garbage...
but down 16 and both PGs are ineffective?
Jump shooting teams can win but do we want to be a jump shooting team? Our ceiling would be WCFs
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you make too much sense...
i’m just asking for 5-10 minutes…is that so hard for Rex tonight? ha!
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Jerryd Bayless is a 20 year old rookie
. So is the Greg. But you see his mistake prone arse out there, don’t ya?
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hmm Greg supposedly once in a decade center, Jerryd maybe can play point guard... little bit different me thinks
honor rasheed wallace
I college, Jerryd was almost as good as Rose
And better than Westbrook for most of the year. All of whom play out there. Over time, he will too.
Viva la Rudylucion
I would argue that Bayless...
would have similar if not better numbers than Rose if he was in Chicago.
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why?
Chicago runs a guard oriented scheme…Bayless is a better scorer and with the ball in his hands for that much, would only be a couple assist less than Rose. Rose is not a good shooter.
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I wouldn’t go that far, but he was a better outside shooter and is almost as athletic. Rose was the clear #1 (that really should have been no discussion, but it was in Chicago).
Viva la Rudylucion
Rose is a much better distibutor than Bayless
Mayo will be the best from this draft
honor rasheed wallace
Mayo is very similar to Roy. Rose is more like a small LeBron or Johnson, but we will see if he can develop. He is definitely ahead of my expectations for him, and those were pretty high.
Viva la Rudylucion
ok, you are officially off your rocker.
Mayo scores because he puts up a lot of shot…he’s a good scorer, but not great…and not even close to All Star level as Roy
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Mayo does not have Roy's leadership or playmaking skills
I compare Mayo more to Gilbert Arenas
Boomshakalaka
Okay, here it goes everyone.
Derrick Rose = Gary Payton
O.J. Mayo = Gilbert Arenas
Jerryd Bayless = Monta Ellis
Rose > Mayo > Bayless
Well, that’s that.
Monta is better than Gilbert...
at least he got injured riding a scooter versus general lack of a knee cap.
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I think J-Bay will be closer to Leandro Barbosa
in that he can knock down the 3, and that will be important to this team. Ellis is among the worst 3 point shooters in the whole of the NBA. I also think Rose is miss matched with Payton. He won’t be THAT good defensively, but he’ll be a lot better at getting to the rack and finishing. Both are very good passers.
If you watched Bayless last year
you would have to say he’s not going to be a good defender in this league. Not only did he show poor mental abilities on the defensive end, but he has a severe lack of length (T-Rex arms). All this talk about Bayless being a good defender, or even a decent defender are pure conjecture. From what film and evidence we have on the subject right now, you’d have to conclude he’d be an average defender at best. The only reason people think he’ll be a good defender is that he’s an excellent athlete, but that rarely means anything (Travis Outlaw, Vince Carter etc…)
Finally, someone other than me acknowledges ...
the fact that Jerryd Bayless is a piss-poor defender.
no
Rose is a true PG. Bayless is not. Rose is big, strong and athletic. Bayless is small, has T-Rex arms and is athletic.
Boomshakalaka
you forget...
T-rex Arms but he can jump out of the building!!!
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I said he was athletic
His athleticism is almost as good as Rose’s.
The only thing Bayless does better than Rose is shoot FTs.
Boomshakalaka
one last disagreement...
Rose can’t shoot 3’s. 33.7% at Memphis…Bayless 41% at Arizona. College 3 = NBA 2 Fg%
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hmm Greg supposedly once in a decade center
hmm… me thinks we can put that assumption to rest now. Besides, that once in a decase center was D Howard. Hence, we have a few more years until it’s a new decade and another can come along. ;)
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he's still a #1 pick who is 18 games into his pro career
We have a lot more invested in him than in Bayless.
Boomshakalaka
Greg is a sunk cost
It’s too late to say we have more invested in him. We have to look forward, not backward.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
know your audience
jksnake, you are wasting a lot of good work on your responses here.
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
I love jksnake99's comments
I am an attentive audience to him. I only discriminate against Sergio homers (just kidding).
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not saying ignore him or trade him
just play the people who will help you win, not just the guys who get paid the most or whatever.
I like how much Nate is playing Greg, even if Joel is playing the best ball of his career right now. I’d rather bring Greg along faster than slower.
But I also think we need to get Bayless in there at some point. Hopefully some trades go down in the next 70 days.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, you can be a sunk cost 18 games in
The fact that we invested a first round pick is irrelevant at this point.
The only thing that matters is whether he still has enough potential to justify continuing to keep him and develop him or not. At this point, it doesn’t matter if he is a #1 or #60 pick, or not picked at all. That’s history.
Same story with Martell.
“Sunk cost” just means you’ve already paid that price, it doesn’t matter anymore. That price has been paid, either way. You have to look forward.
Obviously, just about everyone in the whole world thinks the potential is still very high, and worth holding on to and developing. But the expression “sunk cost” is both accurate and appropriate.
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Yeah, but Greg wont be really good until the next decade so it is still possible for him to be a once in a decade center
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
"Once in a decade player"
is more a figure of speech.
It’s like a “100 year flood” or “200 year drought”… We’ve had 3 of them in the last 50 years.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
I was just having some fun
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, it's funny though how those terms are used
for 2 seasons Terrell Brandon was one of the best PGs of his generation…
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
This is why I don't mine these types of losses
It’s shining a light on the most glaring weakness of the team and there’s a guy on the bench sitting and waiting for that opportunity. With enough bad games from the PG position, Nate will start to look toward Bayless, hopefully.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
yeah maybe when the PGs string together
TWO whole bad games in a row, Bayless will see some burn . . . Hasn’t happened yet though.
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
Blazers aren't anything but a treadmill team with Sergio or Blake
So the sooner Bayless gets the call the better.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
i don't have any evidence but trust KP...
and Rex wouldn’t back down on that physical play that Utah and C’s were pushing on our guards.
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i've KP thought bayless would be better right now he would clear a spot for him
honor rasheed wallace
Thats what we said last year about Jarret Jack hanging around...
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Is it too much to expect a guy be a better player than Sergio or Blake?
These are pretty low hurdles. Bayless could fall flat, but let’s see him earn some playing time. I already know Sergio and Blake are not worthwhile investments as starting PGs in the future.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
No you don't know that
Blake and Sergio have actually been good players this year… once again, had you been paying attention all year, and commenting after every game it’d be one thing. But they have a bad game, and all of a sudden Bayless is better. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht
You're right Bayless will can't achieve the success of Blake and Sergio
It is impossible. The standard is just too high.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Not impossible
but when Blake and Sergio are playing solid winning basketball all season long, what need is there to experiment with a rookie who we own for the next 5 years?
i wouldn't complain at all and would agree with that...
but come playoff time…you think these two will have the upper hand against Dwill, Chauncey, Nash, Parker, CP3, Farmer?
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true for Brandon but we know LMA is streaky and plays hot potatoe
with the Bball in the 4th. This is the first time this season an opponent has doubled LMA consistently because Okur can’t guard a tree.
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Here's a reason
I don’t want the Blazers to continue winning by basically shooting jumpshots and 3’s. Its a losing proposition in the long term. That’s what Sergio and Blake give you. At least with Bayless, the Blazers can develop a credible threat to score inside and outside.
I’m not sweating. Blake and Sergio aren’t good enough to keep Bayless on the bench this year. Bayless will play.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Generally agreed
I just don’t see the need to necessarily have it happen this year. In my ideal world Bayless starts and Sergio comes off the bench. That being 2 years from now.
Sergio has been good on defense this year
Pay attention…. watch games, look at the stats. Then come back to me. Our weakness this year defensively isn’t Sergio.
i don't have anything against Sergio...
I’m saying both PGs were ineffective tonight and Bayless could have been a spark
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I didn't mention defense
Sergio is not effective when teams force him to be a scorer or jump the pick and roll. He relies on pick and rolls and others’ outside shooting to be effective. He’ll be a good bench player.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Another defensive miss
It wasn’t D-Will that was killing us, it was everyone else. D-Will shot 5/16 (31%) from the floor. It was the bigs, and wings that were letting their guys run free all over the place. Blake and Sergio weren’t stellar by any means, but they weren’t the reason our defense stunk.
who broke down the perimeter to allow the wings and bigs to score?
DWill was all over the place with his D and penetration
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Brandon, Travis, Nicolas, Rudy all had multiple defensive lapses, as did Oden and Aldridge
they got tons of easy shots, from being left completely alone. I can’t even recall the exact number, but Brewer shook free of Roy at least 5 times in the first half alone. That isn’t on your PG’s.
PGs usually help dictate and read the floor both on the defensive and offensive ends...
its all a domino effect. I"m a blake and sergio fan. Just saying that played terrible tonight and would like to see Bayless come in with his physical play against Utah.
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+1
I would have liked to see him get an opportunity, especially in the 4th. He did pretty well in a similar scenario against Boston
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Chicken and egg problem
The bigs/wings gave Williams plenty of targets, but the PGs let him get anywhere he wanted/needed to make the play. His shot was off, he was getting some pretty clean looks. Pretty disappointing defensive effort
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
Mike Rice actuall said something interesting...
Boston and Utah deploy a very physical defensive scheme because the refs can’t call every foul…and it leads to an aggressive gameplan…We can guarantee that will continue to happen.
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Especially in their buildings
But it is what it is, and Portland needs to learn how to adapt to a physical game where they aren’t getting calls
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
You guys are making me hungry...
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
Boozer can play, but the drop off to Millsap isn’t that severe offensively, and he’s a much better individula and team defender. if someone makes Boozer an obscene FA offer, the Jazz could very well let him walk
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know exactly how good Millsap is either though.
Or Andrei…
If you play PF for the Jazz, you get to look anywhere from twice as good to three times as good as you are. Jerry Sloan… I hate thee.
Huge homestand coming up
We need to go 3-0. If we can’t beat Phoenix now, at home, that would reflect well on our chances.
Boomshakalaka
Agreed
You expect the games in Utah to be hard. But you’ve got to defend the home court. We dropped one this month, and some really hard ones coming up later. If we get out of this month with 2-3 home losses, that will be pretty good, actually, but we really need the Phoenix one.
They are also one of those teams in the battle for the 8-9 spot, and it would be good to keep some separation there. If we’re in good position once we hit mid-January, we’ll stay there. If we drop back, then we have a hill to climb.
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THE BLAZERS LOST IM SAD
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 11, 2008 10:55 PM PST reply actions
Here's what you need to do to make yourself feel better
Find out where Demopoulos lives; ring his doorbell; then run away really fast before he can answer the door.
Neat trick; gets ’em every time.
Now I know why you like the Knicks
They keep bringing in all these criminal players. Just like you.
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Trivia Question of the Night:
Who is the general manager that signed Raef LaFrenz to his stupid contract?
but it was probably just as much Cuban
a tag team effort perhaps.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqnx9Gb3QVk
I hate bears
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Dec 11, 2008 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Three point shooting
We hit the shots we’ve been hitting all year, we win. Period.
That’s all, folks. Good night.
"Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live." - Anthony Carter
can't expect to keep a 46% team average up against good Defensive teams.
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we were missing open 3s tonight
good defensive team has nothing to do with it.
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the blazers lost my bet
I am officially ticked at them.
“Blazers suck” is too short for a fan post, so I suppose my game review will have to have more thought in it. I’m going to wait to cool down a little. I may or may not post tomorrow.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
Demopoulos
is really a long name. I might end up with carpal tunnel if I keep having to type it.
I should’ve picked a whipping boy with fewer letters in his name.
Something like Roy.
Yeah, let's get some trade ideas flowing for that idiot KP (:
And the annual KP steal of the draft award goes to...Nicolas Batum
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Hating is fun!
To maximize my enjoyment of future Blazer losses, I’m going to teach myself how to cuss in Greek.
Teach me.
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 11, 2008 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
Next loss
I say we should turn the vent into a “Hater’s Ball” like on Chappelle, nothing but hateful comments, the more hateful the better. Hate hate hate hate hate hate
And the annual KP steal of the draft award goes to...Nicolas Batum
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
playa hatas ball. hahaha. soooo good.
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 11, 2008 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
i heart dave chappelle.
"I saw him in the face"
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 11, 2008 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Greek, the Portland Trail Blazers could sure use a point guard like Dimitris Diamantidis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X6GWJaup0M
“Octopus Man” could bring more to the table than either Steve Blake, Sergio Rodriguez, or Jerryd Bayless.
Well, that's actually kind of fair to assume that in some ways.
Dimitris Diamantidis has been oftentimes compared to Panathinaikos teammate and backcourt partner Vassilis Spanoulis, who had enormous trouble adjusting to the NBA. Another guy who the “Octopus Man” has been compared to, Marko Jaric, has a skill set that definitely doesn’t mesh too well with American basketball.
Yet, Diamantidis is unlikely to play in the NBA, so we’ll probably never know the truth to this matter.
I can't really tell how tall he is...
I just noticed he moved eerily similar to Hedo. You can be as long as you want, and be as good a passer as you are, but if you’re Hedo’s speed and you’re trying to play PG in the NBA… I’m not liking your chances.
Dimitris Diamantidis is definitely a tall, rangy point guard. Although he's known for his ...
marvelous defense overseas — which seems to consist heavily on gambling for steals, à la Rudy Fernandez — I definitely can see how that won’t translate too well to the NBA. Yet, in the Euroleague, Panathinaikos has a downright amazing four-guard rotation; it includes both Diamantidis and Vassilis Spanoulis, as well as University of Maryland alumni Drew Nicholas and Sarunas Jasikevicius.
living and dying
they say winning with 3pt shooting is fool’s gold
but it has been a huge part of our wins
27 of 77 attempts were threes.. over a third of our offense..
of course the Blazers would have won this game if the shots that were normally going in would have kept going in.. that’s why all teams that rely too heavily on jump shooting will never make it all the way.. you have to have enough points to rely on when shots don’t fall because at some point.. they won’t fall.. they really need to improve on scoring easy baskets with aggressiveness and stopping transition points!!
Boycott Rose Garden Concessions!!!
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It is not fools gold, but you have to be able to score in the point and shoot the 3
Blazers rely on the 3’s to score too much when the offense stalls. No drives, no transition points, and no easy buckets. Tonight was a classic example of a team who doesn’t know how to score when the jumpshots don’t fall. The team just ends up taking more jumpshots.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
i think they say its like fools good
because you think you have something amazing.. like the set of amazing blazer wins that has led us to a 15-9 record… but a lot of those games are won by fairly remarkable 3pt shooting stretches. And even though a win is a win.. Portland doesn’t create an offensive pace quick enough to create enough offense on so many 3 pointers..
We are a good team and there are clearly good options to move us away from this overreliance on that three while having the guns to compete beyond the arc any night. Watching the cutting and running that this Utah team can throw at you certainly demonstrates the lack of sophistication in our offense. I’m hoping this has a lot to do with the fact that the Blazers have not had the playing time together to fully gel – compared to teams like Utah and Orland who are young but have been fielded very similar units for a couple years of playoff runs now.
Boycott Rose Garden Concessions!!!
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Demopoulos
is a big old poopyhead.
Man, I’m rolling now and just can’t be stopped.
Yep...hate to say it but Barkley is right...we have very low easy basket totals...
and that leaves high chance of failure when the 3’s aren’t falling…
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very consistant throughout this season is that Portland has to work harder
for their points (by taking harder shots) than their opposition. But it’s hard to call that into attention when they’ve been winning. Talent and depth tend to overshadow those kind of things i guess.
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Speaking of "hate the player"
Channing: 6 minutes, 1 of 3 field goals, 0 of 1 from downtown, a defensive rebound, and assist, no blocks, a flagrant foul. What part of that can Shavlik Randolph not do?
Viva la Rudylucion
We have seen Channing play good basketball
Towards the end of last season he was very valuable to this team. Like Travis, he’s struggled mightily this year but I understand Nate sticking with him.
Boomshakalaka
Dave said Channing is not good in limited minutes (4-10), and I tend to agree with him
Maybe Ike or Shav could bring more fire off the bench. Worth a try (though Utah is not the best proving ground, but the upcoming home games against easier teams could be).
Viva la Rudylucion
I am definitely ready to nail Frye down to the bench and give Shav a shot at it
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
for as much as i love Channing
he’s definitely been digging himself a hole as of late. :(
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Channing is completely expendable
Shave will make up for that production and more.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
You just want me to throw up in my mouth, don’t you?
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
every time the cameras flash to the bench
i think it’s Dr. Dre sitting with the team in a nice suit.
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At least Frye isn't
a big old poopyhead.
Not like a certain assistant coach who shall remain nameless.
does his 1st name rhyme with bean?
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The Idaho Stampede's starting power forward, Jermareo Davidson, would be a better option than ...
Channing Frye. At this juncture, the Blazers’ backup power forward spot surely isn’t in the best of hands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzILHeBumaE
His last year in college he averaged 10 boards 1 steal and 5 blocks per game
Stephane Lasme is undersized at power forward, but he's a good weakside help defender ...
and a beast at blocking shots. Lasme, however, is currently playing for KK Partizan of the Serbian League, which hilariously employes the enormous Slavko Vranes as its center. In the following YouTube clip, you should check out Vranes “stuffing” Michael Jordan; it’s flat-out amusing stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNbzWCxxmE0
In all seriousness, though, the Gabonese Lasme isn’t a realistic option at this point in time; thus, my attention is focused on D-League power forwards such as the previously mentioned Jermareo Davidson, as well as efficient bangs like Chris Richard and Andre Brown. Yet, with Ike Diogu and Shavlik Randolph already in the fold, either one of them should get a shot before some other guy.
would never complain about Richard
That guy would automatically have a place on my 15. Its amazing he’s not in the NBA this second.
Uh, I mistakenly typed "efficient bangs" instead of efficient bangers in my above post.
Aside from the hilarity of my Freudian slip, an “efficient bang” most likely isn’t a good thing.
No matter that nonsense, though, Chris Richard definitely deserves to be on a NBA roster.
Good thing I stealthily avoided the slip up and went straight to the names.
Typically there are like players in college that can be had at the end of the first round, but this year I’m not really seeing any. I keep looking at how the first round might play out, and the best case scenario for this team IMO is Darren Collison. That of course makes the PG position excessively deep, but that really isn’t a horrible thing. If you’re not going to go out and get yourself an elite guy, the best you can do is get really deep and young, and hope one develops. I love Collison’s defense, offensive recognition, and 3 point shot. I think in an ideal world, he’s the one you want dealing with all the quick PG’s in the West, at least over what we have currently. I’ve also had a man crush on Austin Daye’s potential. If he keeps playing like he is, maybe he pulls a Batum and we’ll have a shot at him too.
We're going to draft Psycho T
to back up LMA for 10-12 minutes a game.
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Channing was the highlight for me tonight...
HE FOULED SOMEONE REALLY HARD….someone on the Blazers team needs to do that or else everyone including Harpring will bring his game to our paint.
Good Job Channing, no complaints from me tonight (only tonight).
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Honestly though.....
That was a very very weak flagrant call. Channing had 80% ball.
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 12, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
People wanted toughness
So Channing got tough.
You guys are all haters.
Go, Channing. He’s just getting his fouling warmed up for when Boston comes to town.
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Well I will say that if he used all of his fouls by fouling Boston players REAL HARD...
I would give him a free ride the rest of the season.
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
Game story up
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2008/12/blazers_freeman_bulletin.html
The word “Oden” does not appear.
Boomshakalaka
i havent said that word for over a month myself.
it is simply ‘the Greg’ to me.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
yeah,
they tend to ignore guys that aren’t the top 2 or 3 players on the team.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
especially if they are downers and not fun to be around
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
poor the Greg.
people need to leave him alone.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
Huge game tomorrow
2nd of a back to back, but at home against a team we should beat. Energy could be an issue. Huge game.
Boomshakalaka
we need a good old-fashioned whipping
like the Bulls game. Get up by 20 early and spend the rest of the game making everyone on the Blazers feel like all-stars again after the recent rockiness.
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
The lost doesn't bother me as much as us getting out-played physically...
we were just pushed around tonight and Boozer was sitting on the bench.
Join me in the "Give Rex 15 minutes a Game Campaign!!!!"
I'm really to the point where I can't watch this mess anymore...
1. Oden is not the best center on this team. Why is he starting? It’s not even close. He has NO offensive moves. He is SLOW to move his feet and can’t defend.
2. Channing Frye needs to choose a new career. Yet he plays.
3. Sergio is taking up valuable space, blocking the guy who CAN get to the rack and finish.
4. Rudy is too scrawny to get to the rim in the NBA unless he sneaks there on a backdoor cut.
5. Travis is a shameless gunner, played out of position at the 4 because he can’t score on normal, quick 3s.
6. Batum forgot how to score.
What’s that leave? Pryz and Roy and LMA when he actually plays in position.
Meanwhile, the good teams improve through trades while we sit pat and fade once again.
t
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on Dec 11, 2008 11:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Move to Europe
Then you don’t have to watch very often because the games are in the middle of the night.
Do you like asparagus?
Norskville, Norwegia
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
by prezofdeath on Dec 11, 2008 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
by the way
Tony Parker was born in Bruges
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
japanese clamidia veneral disease?
JCVD?
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
LOL!
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LMA you are MONSTER!!!
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
oh, i see
so what cities have you live in? if you won’t tell me where you currently live.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
I am pretty curious for travelling :)
Some countries include Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Italy, Spain, Greece, Turkey, Former Yugoslavia, UK/Ireland, US (Oregon, California, Washington, New York, Connecticut, Massachussets, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Texas), Canada (Alberta, British Columbia), Bolivia, Brazil, Tunisia, Kenya, Tanzania, South Africa, Namibia, Dubai, Israel, India, China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, Fiji/Tonga/Vanuatu.
Viva la Rudylucion
blink blink
whoa. What’s the greatest bit of wisdom you have learned in your many travels?
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
by prezofdeath on Dec 12, 2008 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
Good question for which I don't have a quick answer. I'm still young enough to find it
Some learnings would include
- It’s always good to come back to the place you call home
- People are not that different, and there is no reason to hate each other
- Poor people are at least as trustworthy as rich people
- Never follow a Massai that says “I just go over there” because he might not stop for 50 miles :)
Viva la Rudylucion
If you had enough money to do anything
where would you go and what would you do?
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 12, 2008 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
Again difficult and this is getting pretty off-topic ;-)
Could I buy the Blazers? Or one of the big automakers and fire all incompetent managers ;-)
I have a passion for sports, social enterprises, and innovative companies. So maybe I would buy a clinic? Found an angel investment company to help several companies? A micro-lending initiative? I don’t know. I’m actually pondering this questions:
Imagine that a spell of anonymity has been cast on you. For the rest of your life, and beyond, no one will know about the wonderful things that you are doing in this world. You can transform the lives of millions of people around the world, volunteer in your community, help the needy, yet no one will know that it was you who did these things. You can become the wealthiest person in the world, but will not be able to flaunt any of your wealth. You, and you alone, will know how good you are, how successful you are. In such a world, what would you do?
Viva la Rudylucion
That's an easy answer
Transform, volunteer, and help.
Do you still live near family?
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 12, 2008 12:44 AM PST up reply actions
I can reach my mother in a couple of hours
Another part of my family now lives in Texas, so that’s a bit farther. Uncles all over Europe.
Viva la Rudylucion
Stay classy Texas
Those sons of guns, those beautiful burnt orange people.
So how would you rank your passions in life? 1. Work, 2. Travel, 3. Sports???
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 12, 2008 12:50 AM PST up reply actions
Probably
Since I don’t have the money to do all that I want. Yet I fear I could be pretty lazy if I did, so I wouldn’t work very hard anymore. Maybe I would after a while, like Paul Allen just goes to South Africa or the Mediterranean for a while to relax – because he can.
Viva la Rudylucion
and while in Cape Town, you accidently might drop a C-note on the ground
and not bend over to pick it up because it’s not worth your time and effort.
Where is the best place in Europe to spend Christmas?
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 12, 2008 12:59 AM PST up reply actions
Totally depends on what you like
Probably my least favorite Christmas I spent in Fuerteventura. That taught me I want real Christmas, with a nice tree and maybe some snow. I have spent nice holidays in the Alps in some small remote locations. In terms of towns, e.g. Salzburg is nice over the holidays. Scandinavia can be nice if you don’t get easily depressed by really cold and really dark.
Viva la Rudylucion
nice call
My only European Christmas was actually in Salzburg. I’m not religious really, but it there was something warm and nice about roaming around the Aldstadt with Christmas in the air, buying hot cider and trinkets at the Chriskindlemarkt and hearing the sounds of midnight mass at the Cathedral. It just seemed like the best possible rendition of Christmas—wintry, spiritual and hopeful. That’s a very nice small city.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 12, 2008 1:26 AM PST up reply actions
That was a nice conversation
I have some actual work to do and some podcasts to listen to until the next Blazers game. See you around in a thread or junk drawer nearby.
Viva la Rudylucion
mess?
Portland played a bad 2 minutes against Orlando and then lost to a very good team, on the road, by 9… when hitting on 22% of their 3s.
They are 15-9, much better than anyone expected at this point. They have plenty of flaws, but there is still no reason we can’t be a top 4-5 team in the West.
Yesterday, you said you felt they had a chance to knock off the Lakers in a series. What changed in 24 hours.
Boomshakalaka
It said: "THIS TEAM HAS TOO MANY DEFECTIVE PIECES. WHY ARE YOU STILL WATCHING THEM?"
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
And I say, " Sheesh, I don't know, it beats watching the Clippers..."
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
So then the bush said: "GOOD POINT, YOU'VE GOT ME THERE... BUT WHY DON'T YOU GO DO SOMETHING ELSE IF YOU CAN'T STAND TO WATCH ODEN AND SERGIO ANY MORE?"
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
please, please, please
5 in a row….can’t….take….any…..more……
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
by prezofdeath on Dec 11, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nah, Lakers fans are dolts.
Lakers are playing pretty crappily now, too. They’ve got Blazers Disease also, just not as bad.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
I just watched that first quarter tonight and something snapped. "This team is in suck mode and they are gonna lose."
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
and now you are calling them a "mess"
if that’s true, most of the NBA is a “mess” after playing in SLC.
Boomshakalaka
No, that wasn't it. The turning point for me was when Nate went small the other night. That was a return to Bad Nate...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Hey, that's funny
Maybe a burning bush could speak to Nate and say something like “Sergio should play shooting guard. The Mavs do it with Barea and that sounds kinda Spanish to me” :)
Viva la Rudylucion
The catastrophe of Sergio at the 2 would be popcorn worthy. Especially against the Lakers!!!
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Occam's razor
They have plenty of flaws
Actually, there’s only one as far as I can see.
They are 15-9, much better than anyone expected at this point.
Don’t fall into the Expectations Trap.
Other teams are doing things to get better while we stand pat and enjoy being a mid-level team out West hoping to make the playoffs.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
better sooner than later
sooner schooner than later gator.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think so. KP has said he's sitting pat except for RLEC and I believe him.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
That isn't what he said
Do you like asparagus?
It is: 1. "we like our team" (repeated 15 times); 2. On RLEC: "...........that's the card I'm looking to play."
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
The fact that RLEC is likely to be the centerpiece
and that he likes his team doesn’t mean he’s standing pat.
It means that the deal he most wants to do is a big one using RLEC. If you are going to get a player with a salary to match RLEC, you are going to get someone good, and you may have to give up some young talent to get them.
“We like our team” does NOT mean he won’t do a deal. That’s KP language for “if you want one of our guys, it’s going to cost you something because we like them.”
Do you like asparagus?
major REC
Some Blazer fans have battered-spouse syndrome because we have been to the playoffs in several years and think it’s GREAT that we are 15-9.
I think we can and should be better and don’t need to wait for some of these players to develop that never will get that much better.
Travis is a classic example—6th year in the league and he’s regressing. Can anyone say with a clear conscience that they think he will really get that much better? Heck No.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
hopefully when you stop watching, you'll stop posting here
if it only take another few losses to make that happen, it’s worth the sacrifice.
"I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team."
Timbo has some good thoughts at times
but this kind of absurd overreaction to a loss in on of the toughest arenas in the NBA adds nothing to this website. Everyone here knows what the Blazers flaws are. Calling the team a “mess” is a joke.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Dec 11, 2008 11:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Starting ODEN at this juncture is a sign of dysfunctionality at the Head Coach slot... Everything else logically follows...
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
come on...
agree or disagree, everyone has an opinion…one thing we all have in common is that we are passionate about this team…and this is our way to express it. if we all agreed, it wouldn’t be as much fun.
Join me in the "Give Rex 15 minutes a Game Campaign!!!!"
I'm passionate but want to stop soon
the NBA is terrible for society. These guys make me want to puke with their $100 million contracts and cars and homes while millions are starving around the globe.
Terrible for the environment. Bad for society. Boycott the NBA.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
I hope KP is not being being ignored by other GMs
in fear of being pritchslapped
Join me in the "Give Rex 15 minutes a Game Campaign!!!!"
If I were a GM
I’d try to sound out KP for who he wants from my team, then I’d put those guys on the “do not trade” list as soon as I got off the phone. If KP wants someone, they can play, and other GMs would be stupid to ignore his track record. Unfortunately, it could be to the Blazer’s detriment, but KP will find us some cap related gold.
And the annual KP steal of the draft award goes to...Nicolas Batum
by blazeraddict on Dec 12, 2008 7:27 AM PST up reply actions
in regards to #1:
It’s not are starting the best player. You start the #1 pick, because, well…. he was the #1 pick. If this doesn’t make any sense to you, you’re being too rational.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
true. like you said. we want to play the person who we have invested the most into
this is why when Raef gets back… LA will be coming off of the bench
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
Let's trade Brandon Roy for Kwame Brown
because Kwame was a #1 pick and Brandon wasn’t…
Kwame was a #1 pick. So get him and start him.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
speaking of #1s. Lakers need to sit Kobe down.
Doesn’t he realize he was passed over by 12 other teams for good reason?
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
exactly
That’s why KP is so good about the draft. The Blazers bring in more players than any other team and do more overseas scouting. Because people like Kobe and Karl Malone are passed over in the top 10 ocassionally.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
The why isn't Bayless playing?
You start the #1 pick, because, well…. he was the #1 pick.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Because, well....
he was the #11 pick?
Who knows? Probably because he’s a rookie PG, and Nate is suffering emotional trauma by already playing 3 rookies, but he will NOT cross that line with a PG.
Do you like asparagus?
Come on timbo - quit mincing words and tell us what you really think :)
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LMA you are MONSTER!!!
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by LaMarvelous on Dec 11, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
Demopoulos
has a funny sounding name.
Just like Blagojevich.
Chew on that one for awhile.
I've got nothing against corruption, but doltish morons totally irk me.
If you’re going to be a sleazy scumbag, then put some intelligence into it.
Pick & Rolls / Movement
Our pick and rolls aren’t doing much. Either the big man is not rolling to the basket or the point guard just stops (Blake) because he can’t penetrate the defense. It’s terrible to watch. I want to see the point guard attacking the rim and the big actually moving with him.
I just want to see more movement from the rest of our team. No more standing around waiting for things to happen.
as stated a month ago... Portland has 3 set plays
brandon iso up top with 4 players looking on
brandon iso on block with 4 players looking on
la iso on block with 4 players looking on
but it’s been working for em so… shrugs
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
We lost tonight because of lack of rebounding in the last five minutes!!!!
How many times did the ball hit the floor off of missed shots? That is just a cardinal sin in a game where you are done 10 points! Everyone should have been crashing the boards. It seemed like everyone was running away from the ball off of the rim.
he's right in a way
How many offensive rebounds did we get off all those misses? I saw Oden grab one, but it was one and done last five minutes of the game. Maybe we out rebounded them for the game but not when it really counted.
We count on the three way too much, thats probably our biggest problem. When we arent hitting from the arc we can forget about winning.
lol i saw that the other day
that clip is the best
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
by prezofdeath on Dec 11, 2008 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-pFZcJ-sP4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhbM6uuCt74&feature=related
Boomshakalaka
Am I last, Tom?
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
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