Quick is now THE story on Deadspin!!!
by King Columbia on Dec 11, 2008 10:08 AM PST
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PrintAs if GO hasn't had enough to deal with here in Portland with your stupid remarks.... Quick has now become the story on Deadspin.com. Thanks Quick. Did you take lessons from John Canzano when he became the story with Balotti's wife??? Way to throw a nice guy under the bus. When did the reports become bigger than the game and insert themselves into their own stories? If LMA or Roy couldn't stand being around GO that would be a story, but you Quick??? Who cares???
http://deadspin.com/5107529/greg-oden-is-just-one-big-depressing-mess
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I was going to post this by itself but.....
it goes right along with this fanpost. This was one of the stories on dime yesterday… http://dimemag.com/2008/12/greg-oden-headcase/#more-4543 I’ll let you read it for yourself (full disclosure, I post comments under the name BEdger) ….but after seeing all of these “stories” does anyone really question why Greg feels the pressure to be the greatest center in NBA history right now? I wish everybody would just get off of the kid’s back.
I told you guys so
and yet so many defended Quick. If Oden ends up a mess and/or leaves the Blazers and excells I will blame Quick not that he cares. He is looking to Colin Cowherd himself onto ESPN with his garbage. Quick is causing huge problems with his Oden hate. I’m sorry but his stupidity and irrelevant personal feelings have now become news that is reverberating through the media echo chamber. Here’s hoping the Blazers freeze him out.
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Dec 11, 2008 11:09 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Nice Cowherd reference
I was thinking and posted the smae thing even before I read yours. I hope one of the guys on the team pulls a Chad Curtis – Jim Gray on him, I’d laugh myself silly
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
agreed
the solidarity the team showed in the aftermath of toronto could be furthered by imposing a complete jason quick blackout. NOBODY talks to quick from the team. imagine if broy, lamarcus, blake, outlaw, billa, rudy, and the rest of the guys, just didnt give quick the time of day. now, thats not cutting all media contact, just with quick.is there anything in the players, or portlands contract that requires them to talk with quick? at least no more one on one time with quick
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
Perhaps the Greg will opt out of this pressure cooker of a
sports media market and go play for New York or Philly where he won’t get his feeling hurt.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
Wow, I don't even know how to relate to you guys
You’re jumping off a logical cliff without a parachute. Big deal. He’s not making himself the story. Not intentionally anyway. in some of his blog posts, he uses himself, but those are meant to be more diary-esque.
The quote was also out of context. He was trying to highlight the difference in Greg’s attitude now and before, heavily suggesting that we’re not seeing the real greg. I swear some people just weren’t meant to understand anything.
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Yea, Quick's words are getting blown up
I didn’t agree with his “underwhelming” assertion, but this thing is a life of its own.
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I don't see it that way
The tone of the message (as I interpreted it) was prettyy hostile and attacking. Not appropriate, imo
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
He's tried to get away from the story repeatedly
His exasperated tone stems from being asked why he hasn’t had much on Oden recently. He’s tired of expressing the difference and wouldn’t be exhausted if Greg weren’t such an awesome guy before. Thus, his exasperation (which you take as hostility) is a result of the difference in Greg’s demeanor, and is relating to that. It’s part of a much larger story that he’s been reporting on since we won the lotto last year. Without that context, I could easily understand this as hostility. With the context, nothing doin’
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didnt quick say something about oden wanting to trade his rookie contract back in to go back to college?
quicks JOB is media. his job is to understand the effect that assertions like that kan have. he duznt kare
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
Wow
That piece took it to another level.
The Big Lead snagged this pretty awesome anecdote about injury-prone big man, Greg Oden.
Blazers’ coach Nate McMillan also sees that Oden needs little coddling so, apparently, he treats him like a potty training special needs child .
That last one is pretty offensive actually.
VERY offensive.
Mainly because I have a special needs child. It hurts to hear things like this.
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by OCBlazerFan1 on Dec 11, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
that is exactly what I thought...
That is extrememly offensive and very crass. I cannot believe he took it there.
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Yeah.
I’ve never read it. They do this kind of stuff a lot?
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by OCBlazerFan1 on Dec 11, 2008 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not seeing that.
I’ve read that line over about 4 times now. The line itself doesn’t make a lot of sense, but I don’t see the crassness or why it would hurt.
It can’t be the reference to potty training. Every child goes through that. I’m not sure there is anything wrong with the term special needs child. In fact I am under the impression that’s the PC approved term.
If the point was to say that Greg needs more attention, comparing that to the extra attention a special needs child might require does not seem out of line. It may not be the best analogy to use, particularly as one would think most folks have no idea how much extra attention such a child might need, if they need any extra at all. I don’t get the potty training modifier. Maybe Quick thinks that requires attention to your kid above and beyond what they normally require every day. (Hint – forget about the attention, Bribe them. Promise them a puppy or something. Amazing how fast they learn.)
People who get offended by stuff like this are either extremely sensitive or read far more into it than is deserved. I’m not going to claim they shouldn’t be sensitive. Just so long as they don’t require everyone else to respond at that same level of sensitivity.
hakkaa päälle !
I understand your point.
But if you were the primary care giver of a special needs child who will be living with you the rest of your life, you wouldn’t understand. Before I had a child that was Epileptic, and Mentally Retarded (that is his true label), I thought the same way. Now I guess I’m just sensitive to those terms. I am not trying to get on a soap box here. People can use whatever words they want. Just understand that there are some words that affect others. I don’t expect others to feel the same way I do. Just voicing my opinion from experience. And I respect your opinion too.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Dec 12, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Not having walked in your shoes...
… I’ll concede that there is much I don’t know on the subject.
hakkaa päälle !
That's okay.
and thank you.
Once again, I’m not trying to be Captain Bring Down here. People have freedom of speech.
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by OCBlazerFan1 on Dec 12, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Well this is what can be expected
with modern electronic media. The fault lies with Quick who got this little story line buzzing with his Oden garbage. To say someone is underwhelming on the court to someone’s face is rude, to go on to say you “Can’t stand to be around someone cause they are a downer.” is a PERSONAL ATTACK. Hobobob and others just can’t stop defending mr. quick. You can like Quick’s writing but to defend his statement is LUDICROUS!
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Dec 11, 2008 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Those are Deadspin's comments about Greg
not J Quick.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
But the seed was planted by Quick
He has semi-redeemed himself with today’s article but really a full retraction and mea culpa is probably in order.
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
Quick did just that
or close to it, you can check it out right now here… http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2008/12/regarding_greg_oden.html
good job Quick!
Go read this if you haven’t yet. – Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
Not at all
If you actually read it, he just uses more words to say the same $@&%
That was a non-apology trying to masquerade as an actual apology…
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by haildablazer on Dec 13, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Clinton planted the seed to overthrow Saddam
but he did pull the trigger to invade Iraq.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
WHAAAAT?
That was George Bush the First, dude… Unless you were being sarcastic and I missed it… But, really Facts dude.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Dec 13, 2008 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
true... it was first pondered during the Gulf War
But the overthrow of Saddam became a national policy in 1996.
Read a history book “Dude”.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
my bad, 1998... wrong fact, but much closer than your "bold" assertion
"It should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace the regime." (1) – Iraq Liberation Act signed into law by the U.S. President Bill Clinton on October 31, 1998.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
but the point is that you can't hold Quick accountable for Deadspin's comments
and you can’t hold Clinton accountable for the Iraq War.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 13, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Problem with a lot of sports media
and reporters in general is that they want to be the one to break the big story/say something provacative that gets them attention, even if it means having to manufacture/create the news instead of reporting it. Canzano did it on his quest to “get” Belotti and Kent. the 95.5 hosts and Quick are trying to do the same thing with Oden. Dave and Henry are two of my favorites because they (1) don’t say empty things for the sake of saying them and (2) when they come with an opinion, their conclusions are supported by facts and documented evidence, not this “I think he’s soft” or “I don’t like to be around him” invective used by those Iisted above. Journalism has really fallen off in recent years, more competition has upped the ante for all media to provide TMZ/Deadspin/The Big Lead style quick hits that are generally of the “gotcha” variety, and the result is the crap we’re seeing now. Unfortunately, I don’t see this stopping, as this little blip on the national radar probably has Quick dreaming of an ESPN drive time show on 1080 (see “Cowherd, Colin” for proof that being a cynical, whiny, and generally unpleaseant person is for some twisted reason career gold in the sports media world). I just wish we could sic Buzz Bissinger on these idiots and cull their numbers, a man can dream (:
+1
its time for the blazers front office to pull Quick’s press credentials. Or at least for Roy to tell him he’s no longer welcome.
Skadoosh
by postup on Dec 11, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Interesting thought
I wonder how our “ace beat reporter” would do his job if nobody gave him the time of day for an interview…
Answer: Pretty crappy, not much different than the current state of affairs, but his whinign would be funny
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
if any players read this or any body that knows the players read this, get the message. stick together and do not talk to quick anymore.
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
I would LOVE to see that
Quick needs to get the hell over himself and not knock people for their personalities and mental states. To kick someone when they are down after season ending knee surgery is pretty bad to then kick them in the head Don King style when they are mentally hurting is disgusting. I thought Quick was better then that. Just goes to show that talent and being a good respectful person do not go hand and hand (Garnett/Quick).
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Dec 11, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
KP and Roy have meeting at mid-court
Discuss Quick’s future in Portland.
by BRye on Dec 11, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
link
http://deadspin.com/5107529/greg-oden-is-just-one-big-depressing-mess
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
Bad writing.
It’s like all these guys are just hoping that Greg turns out to be a bust. I can’t imagine the pressure he is under.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Dec 11, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
+ 1
This is really pathetic, and I know these guys are shock jocks who want to provoke a reaction, but I’ll indulge them with some anger. Truly sad when the only time you enjoy your own miserable existence is when you’re demeaning someone else
by blazeraddict on Dec 11, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Greg Is a Big Boy
It seems like Quick may have been a little unprofessional in his comments (though warning, I haven’t actually listened to them, so maybe they seem worse just in print) but all the hand wringing here seems kind of silly. I actually like Quick’s reporting pretty well—I think he brings interesting angles and I like the more personal writing style.
Greg, though—good lord, I think the man can take care of himself. Look, he’s making a heck of a lot of money even at rookie wage and I suspect his life is far from terrible. I have no doubt he’s under significant pressure, but he can deal with it. This man’s situation is not that awful and for everyone to run around demanding Quick be banned from the locker room and making themselves crazy with worry that his feelings are hurt . . . really? Look, if Greg Oden can’t deal with some reporter saying he’s depressed, I have a hard time seeing him ever being a dominant center.
He has some psychological chatter happening right now and hopefully he’ll deal with it. It’s on his head to do that—not on the fans’ heads to protect him from any mean words. Frankly, he should be taking advantage of the relative lack of pressure that our winning record affords and just remember how much he likes to play basketball, then do it. This is his situation and it’s one he wanted, so he needs to deal with it. He’s a big boy, I’m sure he can do it.
by jcaris on Dec 11, 2008 11:43 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Question
so many people who defend Quick point to Oden’s salary as to why he should be abused and publicly humiliated. If that were the case then should the Rockefellers and Rothschilds and other banking families be brought out of their dark dank mansions and treated with 10000 times the exposure? Just because someone is a public persona doesn’t mean they should be treated like this. It’s one thing to knock Greg’s game but to bash him personally is childish at best. Quick is the one who is the head case and he might succeed in dragging Oden down to his level. I don’t understand why fans of this team are supporting a beat writer instead of a cornerstone player on this team. I mean it baffles me!
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
Quick Seemed to be Out of Line
I said Quick seemed out of line with the comments. They sound unprofessional to me. And no, I don’t think because of his salary it would be fair to abuse Oden. I also think the Deadspin post was out of line with the final comments. However, I also think it’s kind of ridiculous that many commenters are acting like Oden needs some kind of drastic protection from Quick. Sometimes people say crappy things about you. It’s happened to all of us. I think Greg can take care of himself and figure out his own way to deal with the comments without everyone here having to rush to defend him and demand Quick’s firing/banishment.
Further, while I don’t think it’s right, no one can claim going into the NBA that they just didn’t expect journalists, beat writers, fans, radio personalities, blog posters, etc. to never say anything personal about you. Listen, playing basketball and making millions of dollars for it sounds like a pretty solid gig to me. Not the best in the world, but certainly not the worst either. Part of that gig, though, is this kind of crap, and Greg Oden had to have known that going in—there’s no surprise here. It’s part of the package that he accepted. It would be nice if people refrained from making personal comments or attacks against him and other athletes—I would certainly prefer that—but it’s not reality and everyone knows it.
He signed up. I don’t think we need to freak out because Quick said something personal and a little mean. He can do it himself just fine. Many of the comments here pretty much reinforce the Deadspin post by making it seem like Greg needs to be coddled and protected, that we need to rush to cover his ears from mean comments and demand that Jason Quick be disappeared. Give me a break. It’s condescending and ridiculous.
i got fired from my last job for being "out of line"
u say gregs a big boy? well i think quicks a big boy too, and a player imposed media lock out on quick is just fine with me. i would FULLY support it.
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
Rockefellers and Rothschilds
should be brought out of their dark mansions and exposed for who they really are and what they are doing to us…..but this is something for a different place i suppose…………..
GO makes a great living and has the best job in the world, but this is no reason for a beat writer to kick him while he is down and blatantly insult him. I guess Quick is cut from the same cloth as Cowherd. We should see Quick with a national sports reporting job in no time.
by BRye on Dec 11, 2008 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 for Rockefellers and Rothchilds
-1 for the perception that Quick is kicking him while he’s down. – Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
really?
quicks contention seams to be that greg is not handeling the pressure well enough for quick to have happy conversation with greg. quicks profetional response to a down 20 year old thats expected to fullfil more potential and live with more pressure then quick could ever imagine, is to call greg emo? and unfaialy spekulate that greg want to just go back to college? if quicks so profetional, y dusnt he qualify his statements with, “from my perspektive” or what knot. quick, in my opinion is just being a whiney jerk. when greg is a rediculous super star, quick will regret
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
I don't think it's that serious
I like the post (don’t remember which thread it was in) where the poster said that Greg is tired of seeing his line at the bottom of the screen on ESPN, whether it’s a good line or a horrible one. He’s tired of being made a big deal of. So he doesn’t want to talk to anyone, including Quick.
I don’t think it’s out of line for Quick to react to that by going on the local grinding-it-fine grist-mill radio station to say that Oden’s a downer. That’s telling it like it is.
Both these boys will be fine and they don’t (and won’t) hate each other. And after Greg goes for 25 and 15 a few times, he’ll feel better and we’ll forget all about this. – Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
depression
is harder to “deal” with then you think. If he is in an actual depression, ( I don’t know obviously) then he needs to get some help and I hope the Blazers make it available to him. But please don’t write it off as he is a grown man, (at 20 years old) and needs to just deal with it.
I don’t think he is in an actual depression, but I would not be suprised if he just doesn’t like Quick because of Quick’s…um…quick judgement of him, (lol that was not intended!) in the preseason. Greg has been up and down posting a double double every other game right now, which is pretty impressive because he is obivously not 100% back mentally even if he is 100% physically which I doubt.
by usmcr3049 on Dec 11, 2008 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Been There
Been depressed, been in counseling, and certainly don’t argue that it can be a major thing. And I don’t know where Oden is at, but he may certainly have a real case of depression. But as you said, we don’t know.
They have team psychologists, I believe, and hopefully he’s working with one of them if he’s having any serious depression. Hell, even if it’s not “serious” or “clinical” or whatever, it’s still quite helpful to talk to someone, so I hope he’s doing that if he really isn’t having fun, which the signs seem to suggest is the case.
And yes, he may just not like Quick. Which makes the hand wringing here doubly ridiculous and condescending. Greg Oden is a smart guy with an amazing amount of resources available to him. I bet he’ll be okay. I bet he’ll be okay even if Jason Quick isn’t immediately shipped off to Antarctica to think about what he’s done to poor, fragile Greg Oden.
I don't get it
maybe there is someone saying that sort of thing “shipped off to Antartica” but mostly I see people reflexively defending Quick when is the one who is attacking. Oden hasn’t said anything bad about Quick and indeed has comported himself as a gentleman even if a recluse. Quick on the other hand has openly insulted Greg in such a manner as to draw the attention of the national media vulture and it’s only a matter of time before he gets that label “Headcase”. This could cause him to be treated poorly by the refs and possibly directly result in losses for our team. I am absolutely stunned by how many people are totally OK with Quick personally insulting Oden. WOuld you guys be OK if he said BRoy was a terrible father for not spending more time with BROY jr.? I mean where do you draw the line? DO you draw a line?
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Dec 11, 2008 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Defending Quick
I don’t see too many people defending Quick unreservedly. Personally, I said I thought it was out of line and it looks like Jason Quick owned up to the impropriety of his quote himself. I’ve just been saying that I think the talk of boycotting Quick or demanding he be fired or barred from the locker room seems over the top to me and, ironically, comes across as major coddling of Oden on the part of the fan base . . . coming up because some people don’t want members of the media to claim Oden needs coddling.
Quick's apology
Quick was out of line, insulting Oden publicly, the way he did. He undressed him to the media, exposing his depression to the world in a manner that is totally unprofessional.
Then he apologized and everything is golden and great.
Whatever, people of his type do this all the time, talk smack, say what they want, then they apologize and avoid accountability. They think they can say what they want and an apology with forgive them of their sins.
I call BS, I’m sick of our own beat writers talking out their behinds.
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Re read it
That was NOT an apology… He just said he was sorry FOR THE WAY he said it. But then essentially said the same things. I don’t particularly care, but I just don’t like non-apologies.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Dec 13, 2008 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Questions and Answers
Q. “When did the reports become bigger than the game and insert themselves into their own stories?”
A. Started with George Plimpton, perfected by Hunter S. Thomson.
Welcome to 2009
What’s this crazy electronic typing machine connected to this TV thingy?
People are mean on it too? WTF?
Where did I learn to say things like “WTF”?
Maybe he shouldn't have told him he was underwhelmed and wrote about it.
I think Greg saw him as a friend. Quick broke that trust, now Greg doesn’t want to talk to him.
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by OCBlazerFan1 on Dec 11, 2008 12:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
exactly
and who can blame him. I notice Greg has talked to other media members. I’m glad he is freezing him out. Oh and Ben that could be why he doesn’t talk to you either cough cough don’t be a whiner cough cough. Ben, If you want access you could start by saying you’re sorry to Oden you don’t need to make it a public thing. by the way I appreciate that you have backed off of him. You have been very professional since that one blog entry.
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Dec 11, 2008 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
Ben has been awesome (and far more professional) recently.
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by rockingharder on Dec 11, 2008 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Geez Ben....
…when did you stop beating your wife?
That 70's show:
Kelso: Red! I guess ur wondering why I'm going through your stuff. See, I needed to borrow your saw...because I need to chop down a tree...because there's something stuck in it...an animal...a rabbit...and I would like to return that rabbit to the wild so it can lay its eggs!
Red: Kelso, rabbits don't..............how the hell did a rabbit get up a tree?
Kelso: uhhhhhh Eric threw it up there.
Red: Eric threw a rabbit up a tree?
Kelso: Yeah, he's a sadistic bastard.
by 92wastheyear on Dec 11, 2008 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I really do appreciate that
Ben has really elevated his blogging game and I was one of his harsher critics. I still think for his blogging access he might want to approach Oden and just see where they stand. I for one would love for Ben to have more Oden access.
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
Nope
he has talked to the media just not Ben and Quick! He might be avoiding the media to avoid those two and some of the national bashers.
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
Are you actually being serious?
So I am assuming that you are actually in the locker room after games? Cause Ben stated that Greg does not stay to talk to the media after games and in general is very inaccessible. In fact, the person being bashed here, JQ, has more positive stories and interviews then any other writer about Oden. Add in Casey and that is three people who are around this team almost every day when they are in town who have similar stories. Who is your source?
There's simply no point in trying to make sense for some people
It’s beyond where it should. People are just mad. This is why we should totally obliterate democracies across the world. Let’s bring back intellectual discrimination, please.
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calling others stupid wouldnt serve you very well...
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
Uh huh?
so your discrimination is OK but others aren’t? I notice you are continuously defending the aggressor here. Perhaps you sympathized with other aggressors? Why is that?
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
Deadspin = People Magazine for men
Who cares what a gossip website says about Greg Oden or Jason Quick? I’m sorry to offend any of you who hang on their every word, but how can you take this seriously?
What’s next, are we all going to go ga-ga because some fan Photoshops a picture of Brandon Roy at a frat party?
Or how about this: “Headline news! Lamarcus forgot to tip the bellhop during the last roadtrip. What a cheapskate!”
Seriously… by worrying about this, you are just emasculating yourself and dumbing down this entire website.
Is Oden crankier? Yes, of course he is… he wants to do better and knows that he’s capable, so he’s frustrated. And… guess what… he’s 20 years old and he’s very competitive… so maybe he’s also not very good at hiding it, ergo, he’s crankier when he’s being interviewed by Quick.
“Newsflash! #1 pick is a human being!” Go figure.
MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)
by The Cactus Leaguer on Dec 11, 2008 1:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
yeah, we understand whut you just said, its quick that dusnt seam to
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
Jason Quick-Cowherd
"I can’t really stand to be around him. He’s such a downer. " – Quick
Wow, whatta way to look in the mirror, Quick.
I think Quick's comments were out of line.
He has a right to an opinion however . We can jump to Greg’s defense and yell on the internets about how mad JQuick makes us but at the end of the day we just have to let it blow over. JQuick wants to say and do provacative things in order to up his readership, if he feels he is only able to do so by putting another person down ,that is his perogative.
I say we just support Greg and forget JQuick.
We have Ben to break news…
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Oden has terrible body language
It’s the truth, why do people hate the truth so much?
STOP HATING THE TRUTH
Blazer Fan
It's true....
That should be reported. Taking it to the extremes that he has, I do not agree with.
"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."
by loyal_blazer on Dec 11, 2008 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Saying he has poor body language
and conjecturing about his wish to reneg on his contract and go back to school, saying he is a downer and he HATES to be around him. That is where I draw the line it’s the personal attacks!
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
WHoops meant to say
saying he has poor body language is ONE thing personal attacks are another can’t people see the difference?
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
I never heard Quick say Greg wanted to reneg on his contract
and go to school.
That is a fabrication of you lackey fans. Otherwise, please provide a link or don’t spew lies…
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Dont take deadspin to heart
Its just a bunch of people making lame references and patting each other on the butt for saying something stupid.
'cept Ben
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
and Casey
Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket
and Nate
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"
by rockingharder on Dec 11, 2008 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
except Quick admited he isn't around him b/c he'a downer and Oden isn't available to the media
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
As I stated in a previous post
Our three primary sources of information, (JQ, Ben, and Casey) seem to be all on the same page in this situation. Ben has repeatedly said that that the Organization obviously had a lot of respect for Jason and vice versa. Part of the dangers of doing live weekly interviews is that sometimes things come out in ways no originally intended. I think was Jason was trying to get at is that despite all the energy and general happiness around the team in general, Greg has seemed to put himself in bubble. In that bubble, he seems to be sopping in all the pressure.
I would say that most of the local media hardly puts any pressure on Oden and most of the comments made in Oden’s direction are about how much of the pressure is affecting who he is and that he is lone person in the locker who does not seem to be enjoying playing the game of basketball
The Blazers
should snub Quick for a game in retailiation. Nobody talk to Quick for one game.
by neutroticblazerfan on Dec 11, 2008 2:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
except i would recomend that its much longer then just one game
not forever, but longer then just one game
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
Wow, you guys must have attended the Art Sasse School of Media Management
It sounds like you guys are auditioning for the Henchman role as if we want to go back and repeat history.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-13-95/Blazers-Off-the-Deep-End.html?post=true
Quoting the Blogfather:
There has never been a team of any kind, in the history of eternity, that won over the public while declaring war on the reporters covering the team.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Canzano? is that you?
anyway, my impression was that he was suggesting one public post-game freezeout, a la the Yankees and Jim Gray.
there has also never been as young a team be as successful as the blazers
im sure quicks NOT the only source for Blazers news, so i doubt quick could single handedly thrort portlands success.
the Blog fathers quote is nice, but just like my example, “never is only until”
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
One Game?
How about until he makes a public apology to Oden for the special needs reference?
If an athlete can be picked apart for saying they do not support our country during the national anthem, for making slanted eye gestures or anything of the like, then he, a reporter should be held more than accountable.
Quick concludes the article by saying “Yaaaay.” To mock Greg as if to say, “c’mon, you all know retards say this in this manner, and so does greg!” I say to Quick, “no-uh oh no you din-int!”
"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."
by loyal_blazer on Dec 11, 2008 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you guys are ignoring someting here
Have you heard anything from the Blazers or Greg Oden specifically that they are mad with Quick about his comments on the radio?
This controversy is completely a fan creation. Quick isn’t talking about it. Oden isn’t talking about it. Just listened to KP’s interview on O-Live, and he didn’t mention it.
The only people upset with this are a couple of lackeys on BEdge. Deadspin and TheBigLead stroked your flame a little by repeating this old story. Dwight Jaynes did the same—and he’s the least disinterested person on this subject because of his history with the Oregonian and Canzano and Quick.
But you don’t hear a thing from Quick, KP, Oden, Nate or anyone else who matters. They just keep doing their jobs.
You guys should take a queue from them and quit talking about it and get a life.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
quick is also accountable to the fans, and thus his readership
This controversy is completely a fan creation. Quick isn’t talking about it. Oden isn’t talking about it. Just listened to KP’s interview on O-Live, and he didn’t mention it.
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
oh yeah, and im not just a "lackey"
and i matter
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
adress the issue
rather then getting personal
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
The issue for me is that fans make attacks on every single media member
who questions Oden….
Here are some people who have made it on the BEdge *Hitlist this season: Jason Quick, Colin Cowherd, Henry “Hanky Panky” Abbott, Gavin Dawson.
The issue is that Blazer fans have a circle the wagons, small-town mentality, rose-colored glasses view of the Blazers and can’t take criticism.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
MY personal issue
isnt the critisism, but the nature of the presentation. its off putting and unnessassary. thers no need to throw stones. i suspect that invoking emotionalism is easier then thinking. i see the value in quicks position, and effort, but i dont see the value in his methods.
now, i myself kan take critisism, and in my personal life, often welcome it, but i see no reason to allow random unthought out narrow minded abuse. if quick dosent understand the unique position that gregs in, then i believe that he should be assisted in this.
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
I'm curious
What do you do for a living? Are you retired? I can’t remember if you filled out that personal survey when TominHawaii did that junk drawer where everyone talked about themselves.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
well...
i rairaly read the junk drawers and havent at all for several months, so no i dont think ive ever gone into my personal life hear to much except when sharring my expirience or perspective helped me to illistrate a point.
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
I'm fascinated and really like many of your comments
Just curious where you’re from, what you do, hobbies, passions, etc.???
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
ok
1) where you’re from : Eugene Or – born, west coast – intermideate, Vancouver Wa – current
2) what you do : sales and marketing in various capacities – currently unemployed, and selling my own stocks, lol
3) hobbies : learning html and javaskript, basketball, video games – nba 2k series and halo exclusivly, its been years since ive given anything else more then a few cursery hours, and i want to learn how to make basket bal tribute videos, like maximillion711 on youtube. admittedly, i havent been giving much time to the basketball or video games on some time.
4) passions : Law http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/ , philosophy http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/ancientgreeks.htm , and the drama of life played out on the basketball court http://www.blazersedge.com/
i have to caution, that those answers make me sound like a better person then i am, lol
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
wow, very interesting
and I’m sure you’re an even better person than those answers make you sound.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
lol
im better at wanting to fulfil my idea of being a good person then i am at being a good my idea of a good person
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
Uhhh
Quick never said the “special needs” comment. That was deadspin.
On the one hand, we have to realize that Quick didn’t publish this. He didn’t write about it. He was asked about his personal opinion and he gave it. The problem comes in when Quick doesn’t realize it’s his job to be around the Blazers. Oh, you don’t like it when you have to be around Oden? Well, too bad, it’s your job. Similarly, Oden doesn’t like parts of his job, namely, the overbearing press.
Basically, Quick and Oden have a lot in common, except Oden is classy enough to not open his mouth about it.
If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes fit in a doghouse? None! Ice cream has no bones!
Unbelievable
Quick should refrain from opening his crooked lispy mouth. He of all people know how every little thing gets blown up. Look at us. We are wasting time discussing a self promoting writer with with 7th grade skills. As soon as he gets offered a bigger job (ESPN & SI is filled with poor writers), he is gone with Portland long behind him.
and if that happens
you would do anything differently? – Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
Quick's response:
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2008/12/regarding_greg_oden.html
Oooh, Katy bar the door!
i for one am content, or at least more so
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
if you're happy, i'm happy
and when we beat down the Jazz tonight, we’ll all be happy.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
agreed
GO BLAZERS!!!
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
Too quick to judge? (Bad pun I know)
I find it interesting the invective leveled at Quick on this board. I mean, I know it’s a fan site, but Quick was giving his opinion on a radio show. I’m sure most on here would prefer to hear the milquetoast answer about how great everything is, but he gave an unpopular opinion, so people want the Blazers to not talk to him anymore? What if there is legitimate news on the Blazers at some point in the future and Blazers beat writers won’t print it for fear of retribution? I think people need to get a grip.
c below
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
hunny, kan you run to the store and pick up some grips?
I know it’s a fan site, but Quick was giving his opinion on a radio show
and were giveing ours on a fan site
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
I'm just saying
I prefer a media that brings something instead of just constantly writing how great everything is. Guys that just make stuff up for controversy is one thing, but Quick was just being honest, I don’t see why he should be fired for that.
i agree, i dont think he should be fired
im not afraid of hearing the bad, have perspective, well thought out, and dont be sansationalistik about it, thats what im asking. i think my request is fair, others mite not. i can tell what i believe to be the truth all day long and lose my job, my wife, my friends, and my family, if i have no tact.
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
yes, do we need any eggs? how about toilet paper? lol
"An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest" · Benjamin Franklin.
by hisblazergrrrl on Dec 11, 2008 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
So why does Quick want to interview Oden every other minute, if he cant stand being in his presence for a minute?
So when a 20 year old dude is down, Quick wants to get an interview from Oden to prove he didn’t perform to his expectations. Oden probably said " I wont let him put me down anymore. Screw that Im not answering his crap questions."
Yeah. Who is underachieving and a downer now, a rookie thats coming from the injury, or a multi-year reporter that cant get a rookie to talk to him?
Thats why Quick said that Oden is a downer and that he does not like to be around him, to paint a picture that it Oden is so bad that nobody wants to be around him. Cuz everyone knows that Oden would not avoid talking to you if you are respectful. So Quick looks bad by Oden not talking to him, cuz it looks like he did something really bad that even a rookie will want to avoid him. Thats why he want to paint a picture like Oden is a downer and he does not want to be around him.
But thats funny cuz I think its Oden that does not want to be around Quick. Its Quick running after him.
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
Jason
I am ok with your response but a couple things you might want to consider,the lucky,lucky folks who got the backstage in pass after the Wiz[?] game described Greg as a relaxed,normal and very polite 20 yr old,I act differently in situations where I am less comfortable,how about you?Also you sound a little like my sister-in law who took a couple of shrink classes at a JC and thinks she can diagnose,depression,bi-polar adt ect at a glance
by southern oregon on Dec 11, 2008 5:17 PM PST reply actions
The only thing you people on this thread should be offended by
is how much media attention (nat’l and local) the Greg is still getting. He’s not even the 5th best player on this team and the old hype of yesteryear still has this kid listed in key matchups on other teams’ websites and tv commentary! Enough already! Let’s talk about Rudy! Roy! LA! Or even perhaps, just perhaps… the best center on the team: Joel!
I think a lot of people (Quick included) expected the Greg to be a leader on and off the court right away because of his #1 pick status + his looking like a 40 year old wise man. He’s a nice kid who is a multi-year ongoing project – no more, no less.
Flame on.
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
ugh
i agree with your basik sentament
Travis please save us
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 2, 2008 5:14 PM PST Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks on Blazer's Edge
You can't just ignore the #1 status
I agree with most of what you are saying, but it’s a little naive to just pretend that a #1 pick isn’t an extemely valuable asset to a team. Team’s are ruined by messing it up, and teams can start dynasties getting it right. The reason he isn’t left alone as a project is that he is a #1 overall pick, and people nationally are interested in seeing what he does. I think it is going to start to slow down as this month ends and the dog-days of the season start. People will be able to talk about what is going on on the floor and all the other nonsense will settle down. Hopefully Oden can continue to improve while the nation’s attention tunes elsewhere.
right on
Automatic thought of most casual NBA fans: He’s a #1 overall pick. Why isn’t he great? Shaq and Olajuwon and Kareem were! – Elgin
It's all blues and no dinner at the Ministry of Bag. The steaks are getting thinner. The office is a drag. - Pete Brown
Ouch.
Blazers’ coach Nate McMillan also sees that Oden needs little coddling so, apparently, he treats him like a potty training special needs child . Here’s an example of McMillan’s embarrassing positive reinforcement:
Oden’s statistics against Toronto were modest — 10 points, 10 rebounds, two blocks. But his defense was a major factor in the game. He was a formidable presence, often changing the shots of driving players. He held his ground against veteran Jermaine O’Neal, causing the former All-Star to make several wild, fading attempts.
“He was really looking like that center of the future,” McMillan said. “I just thought he did some good things, and so I said that to the team. I said, ‘Big fella, you came through. I like what you are doing.’”
Spontaneously, the team erupted in applause.
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
Ironically
It seems Greg has lost some of the “quickness” he displayed at Ohio State and in pre-draft workouts.
by Bust a Bucket on Dec 11, 2008 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
KP NEEDS TO TRADE QUICK!
I hear the Bobcats have a embedded reporter that can blog, editorialize and play swingman.
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