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Ridiculously Late Junk Drawer 12/10: Scoreboard Watching Edition

Well, we're over a quarter into the season and everyone agrees there are 9 teams fighting for 8 spots out west.  Well, I guess its really 8 teams fighting for 7 spots unless you think LAL's loss to Sac last night was the beginning of a downward trend.

If you are like me, you are always watching the scoreboad and wondering if one the Blazers' competitors for those spots will ever lose.  It seems like they never do, unless of course two of them are playing each other.

Will tonight be more of the same?  New Orleans leads Charlotte by 19.  San Antonio leads Atlanta by 9.  Minnesota leads Denver early but the TWolves have gotten our hopes up before (see last night).  The Phoenix-LAL game should be interesting... Phoenix will be playing with a very short bench due to the trade from earlier today.

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Outside the fight for the playoffs out West, ESPN is currently televising Cavs-Sixers.  The Cavs are really good.  If the Cavs win a title in the next 2 years, does LeBron still leave for NY?  Also, Igoudala is a baller. 

Toronto interim coach Jay Triano got his first W, at the expense of the Pacer team I've sang the praises of this week.  Oops.  I blame Jack and McBob. 

Also tonight:  Thunder coach Scotty Brooks looks to move into sole possession of first place on the all-time Thunder wins list (he's currently tied with PJ Carlisemo).  They lead Memphis in the 2nd half.

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Brand hearing some boos from the Philly crowd

Cleveland getting a lot of calls even on the road. That hasn’t been much of a factor, though, as the Cavs are dominating this game.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 6:44 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was a 2 point game at halftime

With 2 min left in the third its a 17 point cavs lead

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 10, 2008 6:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We can't count on help

The game in Utah is important. We need this game more than any other game this year if we want to put space between us.

by oregonslee on Dec 10, 2008 6:50 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whoa

Wally Sceroiwerowheowethwetbiak fell and knocked down Delonte West— and both were down for a while, but both appear ok. The Cavs almost lost 2 guys on one play.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 6:52 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do my replies count?

or does the person who posts the junk drawer not get to count his own comments?

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 7:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Minnesota leads Denver by 15 in Q2

The only question is… “how will the Wolves find a way to blow this one?”

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 7:01 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

give billups some credit

to be able to put threes/plays out of his nugget

by appel82 on Dec 10, 2008 7:14 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

pull threes out of his nugget, still doesn’t make sense though

by appel82 on Dec 10, 2008 7:14 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats OK

did you catch J jack 1-7 with 2 pts 28 min

by LetsBlaze on Dec 10, 2008 7:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thaddeus Young struggling

good thing I traded him in fantasy. I got TJ Ford and Rudy Gay for Mayo and Young (I like to sell high on young guys, plus I needed a SF upgrade).

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 7:15 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whoever Lebron plays for in 2011 will be the Blazers' main contender

If Lebron resigns with the Cavs he will do so because the Cavs have assembled a championship caliber team around him. If Lebron jumps ship and signs with, say, the Knicks, he will do so because the Knicks will become a championship caliber team once Lebron is added to the roster.

Either way, Lebron and his 2011 teammates will be battling the Blazers in either the WCF or the NBA Finals.

"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."

MT Suit, 11/25/08

by MT Suit on Dec 10, 2008 7:17 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Devin Harris had another great game

32 and 7, but the trio of Al Harrington, Wilson Chandler and Tim Thomas had an unreal 89 points as the Knicks won.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 7:17 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope they consider giving Shav a chance to play

when they’re in Philly next month….I know he’s itching to go back and torch the old crew :-)

by LetsBlaze on Dec 10, 2008 7:18 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sucks about Webster

Hope he can shrug it off and improve upon his play last year.

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 10, 2008 7:30 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please,

refrain from discussing LeBron (stupid name), Kobe (stupid name), or
Amare (stupid name) three of the most physically gifted, classless, and vapid men in professional basketball. Listen to them sometime and you will be happy they play somewhere else.

by oregonslee on Dec 10, 2008 7:31 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

?

I would love to see Amare or LeBron in a Blazer uniform.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 7:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OKC found a way to lose vs. Memphis

Scotty Brooks remains tied with PJ on the all time Thunder win list (at 1).

Denver has tied it vs. Minny by starting the 2nd half on a 16-4 run. C’mon Wolves, help us out.

Atlanta has pulled within 4 of the Spurs. Let’s go Hawks.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 7:35 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Doesn't look like we're going to get any help tonight

Wolves and Hawks both trailing now.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 7:43 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For Blazers playoff

chances it would be better if the Suns lost this game. Go lakers…ugh

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 10, 2008 7:46 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you forget they are the Lakers

Its actually some pretty beautiful basketball.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 7:48 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I liked watching the lakers

2 or 3 years ago when it was the kobe show and he put up 40 shots a game. He was fun to watch just for the pure selfishness/amazingness. The Blazers sucked and the lakers wernt going to go anywhere in the playoffs so i found myself enjoying them. But now that the Blazers are playing for something and the lakers are too its back to hating them.

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 10, 2008 7:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watching L@kers vs. Suns right now.

Amare has a mow hawk. Who does he think he is? Greg Oden? Also, they are just letting Bynum catch and dunk. Other teams maul Greg on the catch. Suns just watching the show.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Dec 10, 2008 7:52 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spurs win again

I really wish they’d just go away.

40 3rd quarter points for Denver. If Minny blows a double digit lead to a NW division rival for the 2nd straight night, they will be officially dead to me.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 7:55 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They aren't dead

just cryogenically preserved by the harsh norther winter

by LetsBlaze on Dec 10, 2008 7:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Denver pulling away

I hate you, TWolves.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 8:04 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A phrase I hate saying

First place Denver Nuggets. That home-and-home against them in a few weeks is going to be big.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 8:20 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eh.

I can’t stand his face, persona.. whining. But he is a good player. Especially in that system.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 8:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah.

That’s a good way to describe him… except his beard. Definitely not smooth.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kobe is Brandon Roy supersized...

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:01 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LeBron is the best player in the NBA right now

I’m not sure who the 2nd is right now— the main candidates are Wade, CP3 and Kobe. Garnett and Duncan are in the mix also.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:04 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

?

He can pass, he can drive, he can rebound, he can block shots. He just can’t shoot. He’s as many dimensions as there are in basketball minus 1.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, Suns are hot right now.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:05 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Luke Walton is back?

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:05 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they will

Who in the West could even take them to 6 games right now?

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:12 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PHX leads

cringe Go Lakers cringe

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:14 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This junk drawer has WAY too much basketball in it

Wanna talk politics?

OK, OK, I confess. I’m watching the scoreboard too.

by Corvid on Dec 10, 2008 9:15 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why does Kareem always look half crazy and half angry?

Why does he always have that dark gloomy expression on his face?

I remember a couple years ago he tried a bit of commentating on tv games and that went over like a lead balloon.

I have heard that he is actually a kind, caring person, but it is really hard to get around his crazed, angry facial expressions.

"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."

MT Suit, 11/25/08

by MT Suit on Dec 10, 2008 9:16 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point

maybe he doesn’t feel cmpetent enough in other areas to move away from b’ball. And maybe he’s a bit too fond of the $$ he gets for working for the L*kers.

A few years ago he lived on the Navaho rez and coached a high school b’ball team. It would be nice if he became some sort of b’ball ambassador to underpriveleged peoples.

"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."

MT Suit, 11/25/08

by MT Suit on Dec 11, 2008 7:49 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carmello

had 33 in the third quarter

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 10, 2008 9:16 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seriously?

Who was trying to guard him?

That’s nuts.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sideshow Bob does not impress me.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:18 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was a pretty athletic attempt there

His best case scenario is his look alike Varejao.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ariza is impressive

Odom’s been invisible this year (I drafted him in fantasy- oops).

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh my, ditch Odom now!

Ariza is sort of like a more mature version of Nic. Stronger. Maybe not quite the defender but I would take him over Nic.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:23 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ariza is better now for sure

I think Nic has more upside. He’s longer, has a better shot and seems just as athletic. Plus he’s 19.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Odom is a sissy

Did you see how he moved over when Lopez came in for that dunk? He had his feet in place and he could easily have taken the charge. But like a sissy he stepped to the side and then fouled Lopez.

Like all bullies he is a weak scaredy cat in his heart.

"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."

MT Suit, 11/25/08

by MT Suit on Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That dude is a superstar.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Superstar.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here's my list of superstars:

LeBron
Kobe
Wade
Duncan
Garnett
Paul
Howard

That’s it, IMO.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Brandon? Tsk tsk.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would add Tony Parker.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:27 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I'd save a slot for OJ Mayo.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no way

great scorer, nothing more. Star in the making… not a superstar in the making.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:31 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm, that's a good topic for a thread. WHAT MAKES A SUPERSTAR.

You have a much more restrictive view of it than I do.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would say that a superstar is a MULTIPLE ALL-STAR...

……………….. Consistently among the best 3 or 4 players at his position in the league.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you have to be a guy...

… that could be traded to the Thunder and immediately put them into playoff contention.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree.

The OKC franchise is cursed. Not even Wilt, LeBron, MJ, Jabbar, and Stockton could turn that team around.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd say a superstar

is able to carry a team singlehandedly and make it respectable.

E.g. Chris Paul in OKC, Kobe in LA, LeBron in Cleveland, etc. Pau Gasol couldn’t do that in Memphis.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

superstar is a player w/well rounded skill set

who would be a perennial all star in any era…

Roy may qualify soon…now I’d say Bron, Kobe, duncan?(maybe past peak), shaq (way past peak)…

by LetsBlaze on Dec 11, 2008 3:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shaq? Not anymore.

Nash isn’t anymore either.

Amare? Not enough defense.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah.

Superstar = Garnett, Duncan, Kobe, Wade, LeBron, Bosh, etc.

Star = Ray Allen, Pau Gasol, etc.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I want Gerald Wallace.

Am I insane?

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:21 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no. not at all

Gerald Wallace is a very handsome man. Your lust is perfectly understandable.

"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."

MT Suit, 11/25/08

by MT Suit on Dec 10, 2008 9:23 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe a little bit

He’s not a good shooter and he has a history of some pretty bad concussions. He would help our D though. I could see him being a good fit but I’m not sold.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just want someone who can drive it.

To team up with Brandon. That would make me so happy.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Give Rudy a year

He will be more comfortable taking it to the hoop.

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 10, 2008 9:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rudy is not as imposing as Wallace...

I want someone to punish the defense.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He seems like a kid who will learn very, very quickly.

I want him to play so the coaches have stuff to break down in film over the summer. He needs something to learn from.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not convinced he can learn to be a PG

He’s a born scorer. I’m not sure he’s right for this team. I like him and I think he can be good, but I’m not sold as a fit for this team.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Odom sucks.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:25 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love watching GS play.

It’s like watching a train wreck. In slow motion. 82 times a year.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:37 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kevin Martin is pretty great.

I also watch Chicago just to see Rose. He is really, really good.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Martin, Garcia, Salmons are all super underrated.

Miller, Hawes and Moore is a more than respectable big man rotation.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great exchange

Laker Announcer 1: Can the Lakers play six minutes of solid defense?
Laker Announcer 2: That’s the key. They have to play good defense.
Laker Announcer 1: Yeah, that’s the key. Defense.

Scintillating.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:42 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The game is on ESPN

if you dont like their announcers.

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 10, 2008 9:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah, I like to get perspective from hometown announcers.

They know the most about the team.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like hearing hometown announcers too

Sometimes just to see how much they suck. I’ve heard others say LA announcers are bad. I now support that conclusion wholeheartedly.

by shralpster on Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like the play by play guy.

His partner isn’t very good though.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

spectacular oop- Kobe to Bynum

I want Roy and Oden to be able to do that next year.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 9:46 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be sweet.

I think Oden will get his hops back in a yearish… took Amar’e til this year to get all the way back though. It’s testing my patience.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lake Show pulling away.

Good for us… still hate to see Bynum, Sasha, and co. win.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:46 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, good point

I totally forgot it’s in Blazers best interest for Suns to lose. Lame.

by shralpster on Dec 10, 2008 9:48 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Odom sucks.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:51 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

didn't you already say that?

"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."

MT Suit, 11/25/08

by MT Suit on Dec 11, 2008 7:52 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like that play right there

Amare has a handful of Gasol’s jersey and Grant Hill raises his hand to show the refs that he did it. Smart veteran play…didnt work but still…

by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just figured it out.

This Laker announcer used to be the radio voice for Westwood One Radio’s Monday Night Football coverage.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sasha----------------- dagger!

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 10, 2008 9:54 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we don't win it's not a killer.

I mean, I’d love to have the win. But we are 15-8 already. Dave wanted nine wins by the new year. I think we’ve eclipsed that by quite an impressive margin.

honor rasheed wallace

by Cablinasian on Dec 10, 2008 10:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not a killer by any means if we lose

but a big game nonetheless if we want to contend for the division instead of just the playoffs.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 10:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think we need homecourt

but I think we’d have a decent shot in a 4/5 matchup against, say, Houston if we had homecourt.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 10:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hopefully it'll buy them nothing better than a third place finish in the AL East

The Yankees are more detestable than the L*kers.

"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."

MT Suit, 11/25/08

by MT Suit on Dec 11, 2008 7:54 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lakers win by 5

Good result for the Blazers— Lakers beat one of the candidates for 9th place without looking unbeatable.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 10:07 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good night

Nice chatting with you guys.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 10:08 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

7000 comments!!!!

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!!

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Dec 10, 2008 10:09 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

resorting to timboing, are we?

Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket

by prezofdeath on Dec 10, 2008 11:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ANNNNNNNND

only 6817 are Bedge comments. the rest are on other blogs that OBVIOUSLY don’t count.

Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket

by prezofdeath on Dec 10, 2008 11:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least you didn't do this....

Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket

by prezofdeath on Dec 10, 2008 11:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i yi yi....now who's timboing?

I’ll stop now.

Every night the team scores 100 points is sort of a mini-Hispanic night.........all the fans get free Chalupas. --Bust a Bucket

by prezofdeath on Dec 10, 2008 11:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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