Do the Blazers need a PG ... or just some more time ?
When you take a look at the Blazers roster, you have to believe that most of the positions are set:
Center: Greg & Joel - The Blazers are extremely fortunate. Injuries and foul trouble are a part of life in the NBA, and having two quality Centers is a luxury.
Shooting Guard: Brandon & Rudy - Once again, I can't think of a team with better depth at the "2". I think over time, the two of them will play together more, and once they are better able to take advantage of their strengths, they're going to cause a lots of sleepless nights for opposing coaches.
Power Forward: LaMarcus & Channing (& Travis ?) - Both Travis and Channing have been mentioned quite a bit in trade rumors, but at least one of them will undoubtedly be kept. I think either one of them can do a more than adequate job of backing up LaMarcus.
Small Foward: Nicolas, Travis & Martell - This was once a position of concern, but once Martell comes back, this could actually be a position that will be set for the foreseeable future. Who starts and who finishes ? Will it matter ? Even though his minutes are likely to dwindle to almost nothing, Nicolas might end up getting credit for getting Travis and Martell to focus on defense and rebounding first.
So, that leaves only one position ....
Point Guard: Steve, Sergio, Brandon, Rudy & Jerryd ? - The fact that there's so many possibilities, and no clear cut answer for the future says it all.
Steve would be perfect in the role that Joel has - an experienced, steady young veteran, who can start when needed. Steve provides leadership, and is everything you would want in a teammate, but he has his limitations. To his credit, Steve became a very good spot-up shooter last year when Brandon wanted the ball in his hands. Steve's a decent defender, but probably not good enough. Steve doesn't look to get his own shot, and that's good, because that's not ever going to be a part of his game.
Sergio is not nearly as good of a defender as Steve, and that's a big concerm, since it's pretty clear that Steve isn't good enough. Sergio also is not nearly as good of a spot-up shooter as Steve, but probably isn't any worse at trying to get his own shot. Unfortunately, that just means that he can't. Sergio would be great in an uptempo system playing for a coach that didn't mind occasional turnovers. That's never going to be the Blazers. If Sergio isn't happy with a role of being a change-of-pace PG, then he's the most likely of the PG's to be moved.
Brandon will always play the Point in crunch time, but I'm not sure that he'll ever be the full time PG. However, Brandon will determine who plays the PG for the Blazers. The PG of the future for the Blazers will not only need to play well with Brandon, but will need to defer to Brandon during all of the most critical game situations. One thing that I don't think will happen, however, is Brandon checking opposing PG's, even when he's running the Point.
Rudy handled the Point at times during the Gold Medal game, but when he and Brandon have been in the game together, Brandon has always initiated the offense. I like how Rudy moves his feet on defense, and against Phoenix, I thought he did as good of a job against Steve Nash as anyone else for the Blazers. I would like to see what Rudy could do at the Point for the Blazers. Hopefully, he'll get the chance, but I think Rudy will continue with his current role - check the opposing PG when he and Brandon are in the game together, but defer to Brandon on offense during those stretches of the game.
Jerryd is probably last on the depth chart at Point for the Blazers right now, but he has all of the tools to be everything that the Blazers need. Jerryd is probably the best defender right now, and he'll get better as he gets more experience. Jerryd also is able to get his own shot better than anyone in the backcourt not named Brandon. Jerryd is a very good spot-up shooter, but he does not get the ball where it needs to get to very quickly. Jerryd doesn't look like a natural PG. However, the Blazers desperately need Jerryd to develop into a PG. Jerryd has all of the physical tools to be the perfect Point opposite Brandon, but he has a long ways to go.
The question is, who could the Blazers realistically trade for who would end up being better than Jerryd could become ? How quickly can Jerryd learn to effectively run the team ? If this were two years ago, Jerryd would be playing, because the Blazers would be willing to let him develop, knowing that the Playoffs were not realistic. Times have changed. Jerryd needs to learn how to be a PG, but the Blazers can't afford to lose games while he does so.
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It will be
Steve Blake at the beginning of the year as Bayless gets his feet wet off the bench.
Come January or February the roles will switch.
Like I said in another post, JayBay is getting groomed like a QB in the NFL. He is better than Sergio right now, but will get even better when he gets some playing time.
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by winnerwinner on Nov 9, 2008 8:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
exactly... it's like when Walsh would only put Montana into the game as a rookie
when they were driving down the field, had momentum, and he knew they were going to score.
He would only put Montana into the game in situations where he would be successful, so as to build his confidence.
Bayless will continue doing an insane amount of ballhandling, shooting, passing and defensive drills for the next two months until he can be inserted in the game and be very effective. Then Steve Blake will be riding the pine as Bayless, Roy and Rudy play an effective 3-guard set with LMA and Oden playing great defense.
by Bust a Bucket on Nov 9, 2008 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
But I dont agree with one little thing you said. That the point guard would have to defer to B-Roy. What if this team never becomes the team that should contend for a title? What if the will be major injuries? I cant limit KP in that he cant bring a point guard like CP3 or D-Will. Yes it wont happen now cuz everything is good and we are set for a run. But if there major problems with team chemistry or major injuries to Oden, LMA, or Roy then KP might bring in the point guard that can take over the team. B-Roy played really well with CP3 in the all-star game, so I dont see any problem in Roy deferring. I know that there is not allot of point guards of CP3 tear but KP works everyday to make the team better, and if the hopes wont come true than something might change.
by RipCity on Nov 9, 2008 9:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Roy
has been deferring since his college days. He was the guy who made his other team mates look like stars. When they left, he finally shined his senior year. I don’t believe deferring will be an issue because that’s Roy’s background.
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by ratbastird on Nov 10, 2008 8:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Rudy is the best point guard we have right now
Bayless always looks to create his own shot first, and usually only looks to pass to a teammate when he fails to get a good shot for himself. Obviously, this is a bad trait for a point guard who is in charge of running the team’s offense.
Sergio has yet to prove that he can hit a shot reliably from anywhere on the floor. That is a big knock against any NBA player, especially combined with his mediocre defense.
Steve Blake is unable penetrate with the ball or shoot effectively off the dribble. That is a significant negative against him, considering that a point guard will generally have the ball in his hands a lot.
Brandon Roy can can break his man down with his ball-handling and penetrate towards the basket. He can also score when he gets there, or he can find an open shooter when the defense double teams him. That is all good, but Roy hasn’t shown yet that he knows how to run a team’s offense. When Roy is playing the PG position, most of the team will just stand around and wait for Roy to penetrate, rather than moving to get open or slashing to the basket. Roy has most of the skills a successful point guard needs, but whenever he actually tries to be a point guard the offense starts to look stagnant.
Rudy probably isn’t as good at penetrating with the ball as Roy, but has shown some penetration capability, especially if he gets help from a screen. Rudy is a good shooter, and can finish if he gets to the rim. He also has good court vision and has shown some spectacular passes. Another thing I like is that Rudy understands that the ball moves faster through passing than through dribbling. Roy and Blake like to dribble the ball up the court, which I think is one of the main reasons why we don’t have many fast breaks. Rudy, on the other hand, is willing to throw risky full-court outlet passes to ignite fast breaks. That will result in occasional turnovers, but it will also generate some easy fast break points.
Originally, I thought Roy would be a good point guard and Rudy would be better off at shooting guard. However, the offense just seems to flow better when Rudy has the ball. Players start moving off the ball and cutting to the hoop, and Rudy does a good job of getting the whole team involved. Hopefully Nate will play Rudy at the point some more so we can get a better idea of whether or not he could be a long-term fit at that position.
by trk on Nov 9, 2008 9:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
trk nice observations
I never noticed what you pointed out that Rudy understands that for the ball to be faster in the right spot its better to make outlet pass then dribble up court. I think that when Roy has the ball other players are waiting until he makes a move to the basket, then when he is double teamed they start to move to the basket and Roy finds them open cuz their man left to help out on Roy. But Rudy has a different style of making plays. He sees ahead where the player will be and passes to an area(space on the court) where he wants the player to be, not necessarily directly to a player. Thats why when Rudy has the ball players don’t wait for him to make a move but they slash and cut back door for a pass.
by RipCity on Nov 9, 2008 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
disagree completely
While Rudy is a great passer, he does very well off the ball, while Roy is best when he controls the ball.
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by jksnake99 on Nov 10, 2008 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy and Roy's
approach to running an offense are very different. Not sure how they can really maximize eachother’s talents when they are both on the floor.
That’s why I think it will make more and more sense to trade several of above + Rudy/Travis or whatever it takes outside of our 3 mainstays to get a serious point guard.
Of course this depends on the right deal coming up.
But I don’t see how Rudy can really fit in to an offense that is always pulling back and waiting to set up an iso or post entry.
Still early though!
by Blazin' on Nov 9, 2008 11:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers need a legitimate starting point guard, since ...
Steve Blake has shown himself to be a career backup — albeit a sturdy, reliable one — while Jerryd Bayless’ lacking skill set pretty much indicates that he’ll never be a true floor general. Furthermore, Sergio Rodriguez is specifically an up-tempo, change-of-pace playmaker who should play strictly beside fellow Spaniard Rudy Fernandez in the second unit’s backcourt.
by AK1984 on Nov 10, 2008 12:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
"while Jerryd Bayless’ lacking skill set pretty much indicates that he’ll never be a true floor general."
rofl
This seems like a ridiculous statement considering Bayless is a rookie and has barely gotten any PT.
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by leeroyjenkins on Nov 10, 2008 7:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
WAY to early to crap on Bayless
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by HurraKane212 on Nov 10, 2008 9:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In fact, I didn't really see him since summer league
He didn’t play that much in pre-season. He barely played at all in the first games. So probably his skill set IS not on the level to be a solid rotational player or even start ahead of Blake and Sergio (or he would start, see Derrick Rose). But it’s really a little too early to hit the gavel and declare him this or that. He could still be the next Gilbert Arenas. He could still be the next Jay Williams.
by Norsktroll on Nov 10, 2008 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
all evidence on Bayless
from college and summer league suggests you are correct.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Nov 10, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think we know much about bayless yet
and maybe we won’t all this season. i just don’t think we know enough yet to really draw any firm conclusions.
meanwhile i’m curious about brandon and rudy in the backcourt together. i’m not at all sure this will work, but i’m curious.
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by ignacio on Nov 10, 2008 1:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Unless Roy changes his game away from isos
and picks, Rudy’s talents will not be maximized playing alongside the team captain.
by Blazin' on Nov 10, 2008 1:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do they have to be maximized?
Rudy, at this point. is supposed to be maximizing Roy’s talents. Roy gives us the best chance to score. Rudy is flipping awesome, but Roy’s still the guy.
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by hobobob on Nov 10, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Roy is the star here, we maximize his strengths. I think that some fans may be pulling a K*be and getting all hot and bothered by some chick in Colorado and forgetting just how insanely hot your wife at home is.
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by HurraKane212 on Nov 10, 2008 9:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What does Rudy do for Roy?
When both of them are on the court I only see Rudy camping at the 3 point line.
by Kartemax on Nov 10, 2008 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And that DOES something for Roy
Opening up lanes, making himself available for easy passes, feeding him sweet passes… Rudy does a lot for everyone on the team. As team oriented as we tend to think of Roy as, he can’t even match Rudy in this regard.
by as11osu on Nov 10, 2008 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Roy doesn't want a star point guard
Brandon made it clear this summer that he doesn’t want KP to acquire a star point guard. He said it would take away from his game.
“We don’t need a Chris Paul or Deron Williams or the All-Star point guard. We just need a solid point guard, a veteran guy who makes great decisions and hits big shots,” Roy says. "And then we just need me to play to my ability, Greg to his and LaMarcus (Aldridge) to his. Once we get to that level, the point guard spot won’t look so much like, ‘We need this great point guard.’ "
“People asked me how it was to play with Chris Paul, and I said it was great, but at the end of the day, I don’t know if we could play a full season together,” Roy says. “It takes away from what I do.”
“I see it eventually as me and Blake, and me and Bayless together a lot,” Roy says. "The reason why I see it with Bayless is because he can guard points. He may not be a one (guard), but he can guard a one, so then it fits into exactly what we want to do. That’s why I tell people who say (Bayless) isn’t a point: ‘If he was a point, it would take away from what I do, so it’s almost fine that he’s not a point.’ "
Roy is never going to catch and shoot (as Rudy does) and he doesn’t move well (or hardly at all compared to Rudy) without the ball. He basically creates his own shot, runs the pick and pop (since no one on the Blazers knows how to pick and roll), and drives and dishes to open shooters. Therefore, he doesn’t need a highly active playmaking point guard, and a point guard that dominates the ball renders him ineffective. Roy’s contribution will be maximized with a point guard that brings the ball up the court, hits the open 3-pt shot, occasionally drives to the hoop, and guards the opposing PG. It’s easy to see why he thinks Bayless could be a perfect fit for him in the future, and hopefully Bayless will grow into that role. If not, we can eventually look to acquire that player with an emphasis on defense (it is not Sergio).
The bigger question is whether Rudy could take Blake’s place as the other guard in a Rudy/Roy/Bayless rotation. I think it all hinges on Rudy’s ability to defend the opposing point guard when he and Roy are in the back court together. If so, Rudy easily fits the role of hitting the open (and semi-open) 3-pt shot and driving to the hoop as the situation dictates. I’d rather have Rudy taking Blake’s shots today, and get to the basket occasionally, which Blake seldom does. He also has excellent court vision and should be able to distribute to Oden, LMA, and Webster to take some of the pressure off Roy and up tempo the starting unit in transitions. When Bayless and Rudy are in the back court together (which would only be 10-12 minutes a game while Roy rests), Rudy can step up his scoring role by using his ability to move without the ball.
When Webster returns there will be a lot less time at SF for Rudy, and I think Nate will begin to focus more on making a Roy / Rudy back court work. If it isn’t successful by the end of the year we will probably have to move a shooting guard.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 10, 2008 1:49 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
In light of Brandon Roy's comments, Kirk Hinrich would've been the perfect fit.
For the next few months, though, Hinrich is out with a thumb injury; thus, we can scratch him off of the list.
by AK1984 on Nov 10, 2008 3:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for the thumb but glad this stops the talk
No offense to Kirk but he is just NOT the answer for this group — I’m glad I can just say “Oh, he’s injured…” and save the time spelling out t13 reasons why
by LetsBlaze on Nov 10, 2008 5:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On the contrary, I think it mitigates the conversation.
If Chicago was looking to move him before, they will really be looking to move him now. Hinrich is probably a better value now, just because he has a boo-boo. He’s like a car on craigslist with a flat tire, and otherwise nothing else wrong with it.
by everett on Nov 10, 2008 9:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bearing in mind that it's gonna be 3 months before the flat tire is fixed, which ain't gonna help a lot anytime soon...
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by timbo on Nov 10, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks again BlazerFan-
You nailed it as usual.
Roy is never going to catch and shoot (as Rudy does) and he doesn’t move well (or hardly at all compared to Rudy) without the ball. He basically creates his own shot, runs the pick and pop (since no one on the Blazers knows how to pick and roll), and drives and dishes to open shooters. Therefore, he doesn’t need a highly active playmaking point guard, and a point guard that dominates the ball renders him ineffective.
And our championship hopes will rest with Greg Oden becoming a dominant post player, correct? Cause there’s no way BRoy’s offense is going to get past the second round of the playoffs let alone win championships.
by Blazin' on Nov 10, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are enough ball handlers available
to let the Bayless thing develop. A “star” personality here could spoil the whole mix. Jerryd has the speed and skill set to develop into star quality, right? So, until he shows that to be impossible, he’s the guy of the future…probably somewhat soon.
As an outside observer, Sergio seems like the odd one out, since he doesn’t match Roy’s style, and he’s not SO much superior to Blake, Rudy, Roy or (probably) Bayless at handling the ball in pressure situations…He (Sergio) also may garner enough interest because of his skill set to become a solid backup on a different style team, and have the gresatest value on the trade market..also doing him the service of sending him where HE can be some teams premier Spainaird..
by LetsBlaze on Nov 10, 2008 5:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
How about Sergio as a backup to Nash?
That would be sick for Sergio although he may not get all the minutes he’s looking for. But, Nash is getting old and a Nash-schooled Sergio could be an amazing thing. Not sure how he’d make the trip to Phoenix, but man if he did.
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by hobobob on Nov 10, 2008 8:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just want a pg who know that passin the ball off his foot is a kick ball.
is that too much to ask for?
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by faith on Nov 10, 2008 6:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What I think
I don’t see a big problem with the PG postion for the Blazers. Blake is a solid point. He makes decent decisions, is a good passer, and has his heart in the game. Rudy and Roy can play the postion for stints when Nate wants a big PG.
Bayless may or may not become a good PG in the league. I know he can create his own shots and score, but until he learns how to pass in the Blazer offense, I see him deveolping into more of a Stephon Marbury type PG. Not a good thing for the Blazers with this current line-up. Not a bad thing for a different situation.
But who knows…
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by NBAstard on Nov 10, 2008 6:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think until you give your rookie lottery pick PG a chance
You can’t claim you want to trade for a PG with a straight face. Except here on Blazersedge ;)
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by leeroyjenkins on Nov 10, 2008 7:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good Point
I asked at Blog A Bull if a trade of Blake for Rose was fair. No one replied. They must think like you.
by tominhawaii on Nov 10, 2008 7:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a killer deal for them. A solid veteran back up behinf Heinrich.
I can’t believe theyre not jumping at the chance. Losers.
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by hobobob on Nov 10, 2008 8:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and Rose looks AWESOME. Way better than I thought he'd be this year.
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by hobobob on Nov 10, 2008 8:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jordan Farmar of the Lakers is a guy with a similar skills set to Rex...
Undersized, fast, score-first, ultra-athletic.
Forget the John Stockton model — more NBA PGs are generally of the Tony Parker model.
Nate needs to give his plodding half-court offense an adrenaline injection…
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by timbo on Nov 10, 2008 9:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
More like similar skills to JJ.
Farmar is not the answer for anyone.
by everett on Nov 10, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Go revisit yesterday's Lakers game on the free League Pass Broadband and get back to me...
"I’m glad Sergio played well in pre-season, but he should be getting killed for whining. He ain’t that important to the country of Spain, let alone the Trail Blazers." --Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 10, 2008 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Farmar: 6/9, 3 reb., 2 steals, 6 assists (a couple of those sensational), +29, in 26 minutes off the bench...
"I’m glad Sergio played well in pre-season, but he should be getting killed for whining. He ain’t that important to the country of Spain, let alone the Trail Blazers." --Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 10, 2008 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Farmar is not going anywhere. Too good for his price.
Ha ha, finally I can say that after a lot of my trade suggestions are getting shot down with “this guy is way to valuable to ever let him go”.
by Norsktroll on Nov 10, 2008 9:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I don't mean trading for him -- I mean that Rex has a similar skill set, he just needs to PLAY.
"I’m glad Sergio played well in pre-season, but he should be getting killed for whining. He ain’t that important to the country of Spain, let alone the Trail Blazers." --Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 10, 2008 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't post a stat line from one game to prove a player is better or worse than another.
Look at their stats from last year, they are almost identical. JJ got about 8 more minutes, and that is reflected, but there are no major separations anywhere.
by everett on Nov 10, 2008 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the dude play. Farmar is the real deal.
"I’m glad Sergio played well in pre-season, but he should be getting killed for whining. He ain’t that important to the country of Spain, let alone the Trail Blazers." --Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 10, 2008 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough,
Farmar certainly has potential to become an elite PG, but it seems like it hasn’t happened yet.
That being said, I totally agree with the point that you are trying to make about Rex, he needs minutes. It is bizarre to me that people have cooled on him so much.
by everett on Nov 10, 2008 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not elite at this point, certainly -- but functional and good.
"I’m glad Sergio played well in pre-season, but he should be getting killed for whining. He ain’t that important to the country of Spain, let alone the Trail Blazers." --Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 10, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Farmar may be...
… the best backup PG in the league. He’s dynamite.
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by jksnake99 on Nov 10, 2008 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Farmar isn't Starmar
I think Farmar’s best quality is that he wants to be an elite pg, and he’s dedicated to improving his game. Secondarily, Farmar has range, quickness, good court awareness, a dash of athleticism, and a knack for hitting buzzer-beaters.
However, Farmar isn’t quick enough to stay in front of quick point guards and doesn’t have the strength to hang with a deron williams type pg and fight through screens. Because the LAL defensive scheme is inclined toward trapping and preventing dribble penetration this year, Farmar’s deficiencies may be camouflaged, making him appear to be better than he truly is.
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by ignign*kt on Nov 10, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
farmar is pretty good
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by Philthyanimal on Nov 10, 2008 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that the Blazers need another PG
Roy is able to take his man off the dribble, get into the paint, and create for himself or others. He’s also able to initiate the offense competently. Those are two qualities you look for in a pg.
While Roy is capable of bringing the ball up the floor, that may sap his stamina and negatively impact his productivity. The issue for the Blazers is whether they will acquire/develop a wing (or two) with the prerequisite ballhandling skills to bring the ball up the court, plus any particular skills Blazer coaches and management covet.
While Blake can bring the ball up the court, he’s never going to be Derrick Rose. Blake’s a dependable role player, and the Blazers will improve significantly once they can replace him with someone who is more than just a role player.
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by ignign*kt on Nov 10, 2008 12:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
PG of the future
Petteri Koponen!!
Actually I figure Bayless is still closer to the right fit, but I could see Petteri coming into a nice place for us someday.. maybe..
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by idoltime on Nov 10, 2008 12:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I had him on my post and vote about Blake and our future championship PG
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/11/8/656615/blake-to-the-future
He got 8 so far. I’m a little surprised how few Roy got.
Petteri is talented and I like him, but he still has a lot of work to do. Task 1: Beat out Earl Boykins in Bologna, which hasn’t happened so far.
by Norsktroll on Nov 10, 2008 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If we move forward 3-5 years
I’m pretty sure Blake will not be around.. but one or two of the Bayless, Sergio, or Petteri group will have a PG role on the team. I could see Bayless starting and Petteri being the third/fourth PG (once you account for Rudy and Roy’s potential time at the point).. I think Sergio has shown that he doesn’t want to be that guy but I really think there is only room for serious minutes for one guard next to Rudy and Roy and (based on potential strengths) Bayless or someone not on the team seems most likely now. But there is a need for the 10mpg guy who could make a bigger difference in playoffs and when there is an injury and be content with their status until then.. I guess this could even be Blake..
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by idoltime on Nov 10, 2008 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Koponen would be cool
Because it would be like growing a pineapple. It can take up to 26 months to grow a pineapple. I like pineapple.
by tominhawaii on Nov 10, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blake will start next year...
contingent on Oden staying healthy and being a productive starter.
Like you said, he can shoot the deep ball and he defends okay. He can pass, he just doesn’t get lots of assists due to Roy. He’s got championship winning history and is a stable player.
If we’ve got Roy, Aldridge, and Oden playing a 3 man game with Blake and Marty spotting up… we won’t need anything else for starters.
Look at it this way… give Roy and Aldridge 20 ppg, Oden 10 (which should be low… maybe very low), Marty 13, and Blake 7 and you’re at 70 ppg. Travis and Rudy will give you 14 each off the bench, now we’re at 98. Anything else is candy.
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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 10, 2008 12:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You make a good point
and it’s the same point people were making before the season started: The best point guard is the one who makes Greg Oden great. Right now, Blake looks like that guy — but it depends on Oden as much as Blake.
by Kaboomm on Nov 10, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ya
blake isnt great, but there arent too many pgs that fit our mold for what we need. blake does fine for what we ask of him.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 10, 2008 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think there is any reason for concern at this stage
nate and broy will implement more risky and aggressive styles when it has become clear we can recover consistently, i cant see that happening for a while yet.
at times this season im sure we will see some beautiful basketball, at other times we will be covering our faces in despair.
but im still a big supporter of the team!
by Yawnie on Nov 10, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I want the Blazers to get a legit point guard
Because I want them to have a balanced, creative offense….I appreciate BRoy’s clutch play, but would much rather see that iso approach come out sparingly when needed, but not as bread and butter. I can’t help but think that with a great team, the whole should be greater than the sum of the parts, but this might not be the path towards success with this coach and this lineup. Just the path towards Portland having a team that is exciting and fun to watch.
by Blazin' on Nov 10, 2008 1:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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