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Today's Practice Report: Sergio Speaks and more

Wacky, wacky day at practice today.

First things first.  As you can see below, KP very publicly talked with Sergio after practice for upwards of 15 minutes.  

Bling. You have one message in your inbox.  It reads: KP is in charge and he's got this.

After the discussion, KP jetted back to his office without taking questions and Sergio addressed the media.  

Sergio took questions for almost ten minutes, by far the longest I've seen him speak to the US media this season. Curiously, no Spanish media was in attendance at practice; there were camera crews at last night's game.  

Sergio mentions in this interview that he is frustrated. He wears that frustration all over his body and face.  His eyes were moving around quite fast, he wasn't making eye contact, and there was an emptiness there.  He is not happy.  He wants to play so badly.  His humanity is evident, he wears his heart on his sleeve.  It makes you feel for him.

About halfway through the questions, Rudy saw the crowd around Sergio and came over, bouncing around behind reporters' shoulders trying to get a smile out of Sergio.  He had a mischievious grin on his face, as if he thought he could lighten Sergio's mood.  Sergio either didn't see him or ignored him and Rudy left to return to the training room for treatment.  Sergio was just kind of in his own zone. 

The following is the best transcription that I could provide of Sergio's media Q and A.  The vast majority of these questions were asked by Jason Quick; some were asked by KGW's Joe Becker and The Columbian's Brian Hendrickson.  

Be sure to keep an eye out for Quick's takes on this evolving story. Inevitably, he will have the latest, best information.

I have paraphrased the questions but tried to leave the answers as close to verbatim as possible. Sergio apparently contradicts himself a few times; I would chalk that up to the emotion of the moment and the depth of his frustration. Also, the language barrier.

So, what's up?

I've been here for three years. It's not about me playing 8 minutes or 20 minutes, it's about the circumstances. I think the moment is the moment. I feel bad, I feel frustrated.

During the game were you upset?

After the game and during the game I was happy. Before the game I was ready. 

Why did you leave the bench?

Because I had an emergency.

Number one or number two?

Number one.

So you are frustrated about your playing time?

It's not only playing time. I've been here for three years. I really love everything. I think I am not in the plans that Coach has.

Have you tried to talk to Coach?

We had a hard start of the season and I didn't want to talk to him before, during the Lakers. I think I played a good preseason, I felt good, I been working all summer long, for put myself ready for the season.  After the first game, I am asking many questions to myself. I don't think I'm good right now. I feel bad.

So do you want to be traded?

I mean. I told him last year and told everybody here that I want to play. I think this is a really good spot. I really love everything here.  But I cannot be 3 years playing the same, be the third point guard for 3 years. I got to try other things.

That's sad.

That's very sad. At the beginning I really liked playing here. Right now, I enjoy playing here and playing in the Rose Garden and enjoy playing with my teammates, I think it's a great locker room, it's a great everything here. But the thing is the team.

What did KP tell you?

Kevin has been good with me for everyday that I've been here. We have honest conversation. I just want that, honest conversation, and they've got to tell me what's going to happen and what's happen. So I'm asking questions.

If you say, I want a new situation, what does KP say?

He's got to look out for what's best for the team. And I understand. He's got to look out for what's best for the Blazers and I understand.

What did he tell you?

If he thinks that it's best for the Blazers for me to be here, I'm going to stay here. If it's not the best thing for the Blazers, then he'll trade me.

Can you continue on like this playing 10 or 11 minutes?

Again, it's not about minutes. Of course it's about minutes because if I played more minutes I would be more happy. But it's not only about the minutes, it's about feelings. I don't feel that I'm doing the things I have to do.

It's not about minutes, it's about feelings?

It's also about minutes. I am frustrated about everything here. I don't know if I play good or I play bad. What I have to do. What I don't have to do. 

Coach says he has an open door, have you used it?

We've been talking. Last year we talked. The year before we talked. We talked at the beginning of the season. We talked before the Utah game. He told me, "you're going to play." I was waiting for the right moment to talk to him. The day off that we had. But I didn't meet with him. 

Does your playing style fit here?

I think it could fit. It could fit. But I don't think it's fitting right now.

Would you fit better with a team that ran the ball more?

You never know.  I feel good when I play with the second unit, with Rudy and Channing and others.

How do you see your future playing out?

I don't know. I'll continue being professional. I told everybody here I love here and I keep working and I think I improve in the two years I've been here. I continue with the team and hoping the team and wishing the team win every game. And help the team.

If you don't get playing time, what are your options?

I don't know. I don't have to worry about that. My feeling is that they've got to worry about that.

How do you think you're playing this year?

I thought way more better than the last two years. I have been working during the summer. I feel I need some free time. Enjoy. Enjoy playing basketball because I really like this sport.

Would you ask for a trade?

I mean, I am frustrated because I don't feel I can figure out the rotation on the team. 

What has Coach told you what your role will be?

I talked to him before the Sacramento game. He told me that I'll play with the second unit. I tried to do my best to change the tempo. That's what he said.

Have you talked to him since then?

Yeah but I try to do it.

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Aside from the Sergio drama, I talked to Coach briefly about Aaron Brooks' play last night and whether smaller guards might give us trouble if Rudy/Roy are in the backcourt together.  He wasn't about to commit to anything.  Here's what he said.

Blazersedge: How did Brooks do last night and how did you try to play him?

He's quick. We knew he had a lot of speed. We wanted to stay in front of him. He's been playing well for Houston. So the main thing was to stay in front of him and not give him lanes to the basket.

Blazersedge: How did Rudy do at that?

He tried to use his length. He gave him a couple of steps.  I think he did a nice job just staying in front of him.

Blazersedge: Do you have any concerns about playing Brandon and Rudy at the same time on the defensive end?

All of this we are trying to work out. We are seeing different combinations. Right now we don't really have that set combination. We are trying to work some things out and see if certain guys can play together.  Things that we can do with those groups.  So it's still really early where we are trying to smooth out some things with our guys.

Blazersedge: Batum guarded Parker in San Antonio, is that something you might go back to as well? How'd he do in that role in your eyes?

It wasn't bad. We put him on Parker. He gambled once or twice and lost Parker but we wanted length and he was doing a good job in that game of moving his feet.  Again, we are going through different situations because of the new guys and the guys I'm familiar with, we are trying to make some adjustments to see what certain guys can do in certain situations.

Blazersedge: Any favorites so far?

Again, it's really early.

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A few other random notes...

  • Brandon was still basking in the glow of the shot, doing one interview after another.  Dude is so legit. I love it.
  • I believe I heard word that Rudy will be a game-time decision tomorrow due to his back injury last night.  He was getting ice and treatment today.
  • Asked about KP meeting with Sergio, one Blazers employee said, "He's doing his GM thing.  That's why they pay him the big bucks."  
  • When I entered the gym (I was a bit late), practice had been called but the second unit guys were playing a fierce game of 3 on 3: Sergio, Frye and Shavlik vs. Bayless, Batum and Ike.  Bayless smells blood -- he was going after Sergio hard.  Everybody was dripping with sweat.  Both Bayless and Sergio were tugging on their shorts they were so tired.
  • During Sergio's talk with the media, Bayless was on the far side of the gym, talking with Coach Monty one on one.
  • Batum also got in some extra shots after practice today and then did a lengthy interview with a French journalist.  Boom Boom is internationally known on the microphone.
  • Last but not least: Brother Wendell at HoopsWorld spoke at length with Coach McMillan about Sergio and other topics. Nate talks about how players should air their grievances...  "If you are unhappy come to me. Don't let me read that in the press because I don't control what you say to the media. If you have a problem or if you are upset about something, I'm here. Let's talk about it. Whatever you want to say, bring it to the office and let's talk about it. Let's talk about why you are not playing or why you are wanting to be traded. We've had conversations about roles. If you are unhappy with your role, then that is something different. My door is always open."
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Good stuff, as always, Ben.

I really hope Sergio finds his place in this world; I really do. I would’ve loved to see him and Rudy over in Europe together.

Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart

by prezofdeath on Nov 7, 2008 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

Me too.

Good job as usual Ben.

by TwoDeep on Nov 7, 2008 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Ben this was a brilliant piece.

I mean that I think this is some amazing behind the scenes reporting on par with a newspaper beat writer. You have such talent writing and being insightful and funny. Please Ben, when it comes to our team if you want to criticize their play that is fine. I just ask, please, could you lay off the Oden jokes and that sort of thing. Your genius for comedy is best employed against the other team the refs, announcers, that sort of thing. You’ve made valid complaints about both Sergio and Oden’s game, conditioning and other matters. I just ask that you not make fun of them. My fears is that they read stuff here and feel like they were unsupported by the fans I’m hoping that is not what you want.

 Please Ben, you are a great writer and write some awesome satire (I still chuckle about your pieces about Stern hilarious), so keep the main guns focused on the guys in Purple and Gold and their ilk. You are becoming a better writer all the time and balance Dave out in many ways. I love your pieces like this. Great work thanks for getting us the scoop behind the scenes. Rec’d your post.

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by Idog1976 on Nov 7, 2008 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Ben, and I think pokes at our guys (i.e. Oden) are part of what shape his writing

After all, we can’t all be homers, can we? Somebody has to keep us straight.

Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart

by prezofdeath on Nov 7, 2008 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

i guess not shape his writing

but are a part of his writing that is beneficial to his writing as a whole. It gives him a more rounded feel.

Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart

by prezofdeath on Nov 7, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry typo will fix that…

honor terry porter

by Ben Golliver on Nov 7, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

it was bayless…

honor terry porter

by Ben Golliver on Nov 7, 2008 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m guessing it’s bayless who smells blood… given the situation and given what we know of his personality. but clarification would be great, ben!

JAH

by abetterbomb on Nov 7, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

*"Bayless smells blood."

Book it.

And whoa, a much more intense interview there than I was expecting. Dirty, dirty by Sergio’s agent from Spain. If anything, this puts KP and Nate in a tough spot. Either let him play more (in essence, giving in to his "demands") or don’t let him play more.

Am I the only one who feels bad for Rudy in this situation? He’s been placed in a tough spot too. Unlike his friend Sergio, he is getting plenty of attention and PT, and is obviously very happy where he’s at. At the same time, Sergio is his buddy and his biggest liaison to American culture. I think Rudy would be sad if Sergio left or was traded, but its awkward for him to be coming in and living it up without Sergio being happy.

"For the past two seasons it's been like, 'They're young, they're going to need some time,"' Roy said. "It doesn't feel like that this season."

by joelor on Nov 7, 2008 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Sergio = wing man

reminds me of the old beer commercial

by two4larue on Nov 7, 2008 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

i agree

Rudy is in a tough spot…in a way his success has kept sergio down. does his loyalty stay with his friend or the organization? i’d have to believe that sergio was instrumental in getting rudy here.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Rudy is his own man and a professional... He's here to be an NBA star and fulfill his dream, not to reunite with a former teammate...

Sergio should have been lost no later than THIS PAST SUMMER, when the first reports of his grossly inflated self-worth and disgruntlement started to surface. Sergio is a sliver that’s gonna turn into a big, oozing, gory, puss-filled mess unless he’s extracted. Spanish fans and his agent and Sergio himself have NO CONCEPTION WHATSOEVER of the utility of a slowish, porr defending 30% shooter in the NBA…

He needs to be home in Spain, playing in a league and for a team that suits his style.

FREE SERGIO -- Trade Him or Cut Him NOW!!!

by timbo on Nov 7, 2008 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Timbo
Sergio is a sliver that’s gonna turn into a big, oozing, gory, puss-filled mess unless he’s extracted.

Replace Sergio with Timbo on this board, and I COMPLETELY agree.

by as11osu on Nov 8, 2008 12:22 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Oh, that's not right

Timbo is like the redneck cousin who always says things that embarrass everyone at the family reunions, but has a heart of gold.

He gets lots of stuff wrong, and the more wrong his point is, the more vocal he seems to be about it, but everyone ought to love him anyway.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 8, 2008 1:31 AM PST up reply actions  

hey, let's keep it professional here

and I don’t mean that in the same way that Sergio does.

by abdelnaby on Nov 8, 2008 1:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Good (but tough) read.

Thanks for typing up the transcript Ben.

It’s really tough to read how down Sergio is, but it’s understandable.

I’m really trying to decide if Nate has any culpability in all this. It’s both the player’s and the coach’s responsibility to communicate on a professional team. There are times it feels like Nate is really non-communicative with Sergio (“You’ve won the backup role! Here’s 4 minutes of playing time”). But I wonder if that’s simply because we’re hearing Sergio’s side and Nate’s being professional and keeping a low profile.

Either way, it’s frustrating that this has distracted us from basking in the glow of an amazing win last night.

by Timmay! on Nov 7, 2008 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

Whatta day.

Earlier today I was plain outright angry with Sergio, I felt like he was really picking a poor time to complain publicly (through his agent) and that he really just needs to play solid all season and earn his minutes next year, or move on.

But reading this, it is clear—this wasn’t a calculated move on his part, dude just finally broke down. It is clear, very clear, that his problem is with Nate. As we’ve suspected for sometime, there is obviously a personality conflict there, and Sergo, who is very young, clearly isn’t feeling like he is getting any support or love from his coach. I feel for him, these must be tough circumstances. I’ll bet he’ll regret this in a day or two, but maybe it was necessary for him to get it out.

Ugh.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Nov 7, 2008 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

it sounds like his agent has no pull

since kp said he likes dealing with his american agent…not his spanish one. if thats the case this story was blown out of proportion and the spanish agents actions were uncalled for.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That pretty much mirrors my thoughts here.

Good post. I have a feeling Sergio vented to his Spanish agent, and never expected them to get public. It’s probably been a really, really rough day for Sergio.

by Timmay! on Nov 7, 2008 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

if thats the case

then sergio did nothing wrong.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

i dont know if thts necessary

maybe his spanish agent only deals with spanish advertisers and endorsements…bc kp said that his spanish agent has no pull.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

So how bout that game last night?

I thought it was pretty exciting how we won at the last minute…

What’s that? Oh, something about Sergio?

yawn

So how bout that game last night?

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Nov 7, 2008 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

The most telling quote to me.
It’s also about minutes. I am frustrated about everything here. I don’t know if I play good or I play bad. What I have to do. What I don’t have to do.

I think this still stems back from last year. He would run the offense better than Jack and play bad defense but Jack would play bad defense. But Jack would get 30 minutes a game and Sergio would get 8. Sergio is constantly looking over his shoulder because he doesn’t know what to do or not what to do because Nate isn’ really even with how he evaluates players and plays them.

by TSE on Nov 7, 2008 3:24 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

dumping on Jack

is so last year.

I didn’t like it last year, either. – Elgin.

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by 22baylor on Nov 7, 2008 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He's not dumping on Jack

He’s using the Jack situation as an indicator to highlight personnel decisions.

by einman77 on Nov 7, 2008 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Sergio

Sergio is the first, of many players that will ask for trades from this team. I know the common thought is “Paul Allen has all the money in the world, we can sign all these guys to long term, high dollar deals.” Well, I hate to break it to you, but money is not the ONLY thing these players want. They want respect from their peers. Respect is not given to “role players.”

 Bayless, Fernandez, Outlaw/Webster, are just a few that won’t be satisfied coming off the bench for their whole carreers. Old veterans are ok with coming off the bench to win rings, but not highley talented young men. They want the chance to start, and write their own legacy. You may say, “Sergio is not good enough to start in this league.” And you may be right, but not in Sergio’s mind. Not in any of these guys minds.

by bad karma on Nov 7, 2008 3:37 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Wow

great post bad karma. I completely agree that at least Outlaw/Martell and Bayless aren’t willing to come off the bench. One of those is probably unsolvable and will result in a trade(s). I think however, that if either Bayless or Sergio realizes his potential he will replace Blake as the starter. I’m not sure who that future starter is but one thing that isn’t discussed enough is how Rudy and Roy are what is creating the “problem” if you want to call it that. That is to say, either Rudy or Roy or both are playing virtually every minute of the game. This is clearly a good thing and is as it should be. However, this substantially reduces the overall guard minutes for both Bayless and Sergio.

 Blake’s minutes also are taking up the guard minutes. I want to see either Bayless or Sergio take over the starting PG position because Blake I think would be willing to come off the bench. Martell and Outlaw on the other hand especially with a blossoming Batum…well that’s for another thread and (/sarcasm) one should be started immediately as it’s certainly and under discussed topic (/sarcasm off).

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Nov 7, 2008 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

What's the common theme...

…………. Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar ………………….. Skip-to-my-Lou/Aaron Brooks …………………………. Tony Parker ……………..

SMALL

QUICK

FAST

DRIVING

POINT-GUARDS

This whole delusion that PGs should play like John Stockton is nuts. The overwhelming majority of successful NBA teams use a FAST (albeit undersized) PG who can get into the paint and score the ball.

Now who does that sound like?

Sergio?

Blake?

or Rex?

FREE SERGIO -- Trade Him or Cut Him NOW!!!

by timbo on Nov 7, 2008 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

The top 2 offensive players in the NBA right now (as measured by offensive adjusted plus minus) are:

Steve Nash and Chris Paul. Point guards who focus on creating shots for their teammates and distributing the ball can be very effective. Teams that use undersized shoot-first point guards do so because it is difficult for them to find a PG that is good at distributing the ball. Teams that use undersized point guards do so because they can’t find any equally skilled point guards who aren’t undersized (since being short is a liability on defense).

Player adjusted+/-
Fisher +0.46
Parker -0.56
Alston -0.97
Farmar -3.71
Brooks -7.53

Those teams are successful despite having undersized shoot-first PGs, not because of it.

by trk on Nov 8, 2008 12:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Like others have mentioned

It appears that this whole situation is an overflow from over a year’s worth of fraying trust between Nate and Sergio. This should have been done behind closed doors, as it is kind of forces Nate’s hand now that the cat is “officially” out of the bag regarding sergio’s feelings about his situation..

by premthegrem on Nov 7, 2008 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

his agent said these things

not sergio. he has 2 agents and his american agent who has more say in these things did not make the same statements. if sergio did mention something to his agent it was behind closed doors…his agent just took em public.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

And even so, Sergio did not make demands or accusations, he simply

said he was confused about his role, wanted to play more. He didn’t directly ask for a trade but who could blame him if he did? He plays hard when he gets in and no one has reported anything negative from the locker room.

So I’m cool with him having an opinion.

by raoulduke on Nov 7, 2008 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Its the circumstances

Nate is coaching the first five games like he would the playoffs. Does Sergio get more than 5 or 6 minutes in the playoffs????

by Gmepleyar on Nov 7, 2008 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

Not unless they play the playoffs before the All-Star Game this year...
Does Sergio get more than 5 or 6 minutes in the playoffs????

FREE SERGIO -- Trade Him or Cut Him NOW!!!

by timbo on Nov 7, 2008 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

"I'll continue being professional."

Not sure what part of professional involves letting your agent blab to the Spanish media. Zing!

by abdelnaby on Nov 7, 2008 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

Sergio has been playing better

But if he thinks the Ortiz rant is a professional way to do things he should continue to be professional some where else

by southern oregon on Nov 7, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Personality differences

If I had to guess it’s personality differences between Nate and Sergio that is the problem here. Nate seems to favor emotionally stable players who talk to him in private as adults. Sergio has done this type of thing a number of times in his career already and it is not the way to get into Nate’s good graces or get his trust. If KP doesn’t pressure Nate into playing him more I expect Nate to play him less because of this. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Bayless getting Sergio’s minutes for at least the next few games.

by danielfarrell on Nov 7, 2008 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

If I had to guess it’s personality differences between Nate and Sergio that is the problem here. Nate seems to favor emotionally stable players who talk to him in private as adults.

There’s multiple points in the news articles where it explicitly is established that Sergio has talked to the coach privately, in length.

I’m not even sure this would have become so public if Sergio hadn’t vented to his Spanish agent, who blabbed to the media.

Also, while I’m not exactly happy with Sergio’s state of mind, calling him emotionally unstable is completely unacceptable IMO. Everyone has bad days… his is playing out in public.

by Timmay! on Nov 7, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

He's done this type of thing multiple times

This isn’t a one off bad day, this is a trend. And emotionally unstable does not equal insane or anything like that. I consider myself emotionally unstable. When something happens that I don’t like I get mad/sad and often don’t handle it in a calm and professional way. It’s not a great thing but in the right situation it’s not an issue.

by danielfarrell on Nov 7, 2008 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

no he hasn't.

i’ve never seen him once complain to our local media until today. never, ever. this is definitely and aberration.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Nov 7, 2008 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

everytime these stories come out

it has been the spanish media…never the local media. obviously there must be some kind of bias there.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

When you say the Spanish media...

You mean Marca, which is the Spanish version of National Inquirer Sports section.

by Bend3r on Nov 7, 2008 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

they have always been stories that needed to be translated

things get lost in translation all the time.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

About Marca

It is basically a soccer newspaper which writes a little bit about other sports. They always published rumors and not contrasted informations. They are not reliable. In this case apparently this information is true, but you can’t trust Marca. It’s obvious that Sergio is frustrated, but it doesn’t fit in his character this kind of attitude. It seems his agent showed something more than initiative.

by Bend3r on Nov 7, 2008 6:06 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for the scoop

from the other side of the Atlantic. By the way I love your name and picture. With the Spanish accent coming through in your writing it’s even funnier then the normal bender. I realize of course that you were writing seriously but imagining Bender saying your post with a Spanish accent is for some reason hilarious to me. Welcome to BE I see that you are fairly new.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Nov 7, 2008 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It's difficult to know where to post a comment about this today

and I don’t want to start another fanpost. A couple of things …

Disclaimer: I’m a big Sergio fan. I like point guards who know how to distribute the ball, can see the court well, and understand where and when other players like to receive the ball. I appreciate good ball-handling and a well run fast break. That’s Sergio. I also like his enthusiasm and showmanship when he’s feeling it.

Honestly, I think Sergio will be a “better” point guard than Steve Blake very soon, if he is not already. It’s hard to compare players, even at the same position, who have different skill sets and styles. I do like Steve, as well, but I think Sergio will be the better player. I believe that Sergio has made some important strides since last year, but that we haven’t begun to see what his full potential is yet.

I don’t know why Nate has never seemed to want to encourage Sergio, but I guess he really has not. It seems that KP and possibly PA do appreciate what Sergio brings to the game, but they are not the ones making the substitutions.

I am reminded of a point guard controversy many years ago, when the Blazers had incumbent Darnell Valentine and challenger Lafayette Lever battling for minutes. That case was less complicated because there weren’t two other very talented combo guards and a hot-shot rookie competing for more time. Nevertheless, it seemed that the Blazers had to make a decision to start one of them and trade the other. I think most fans would agree that the wrong choice was made. Valentine had one really good game, as I recall, after which the Blazers committed to him and shipped Lever off to Denver along with Natt and Cooper in what may have been one of the most lopsided trades in NBA history.

Sergio is no Fat Lever, but I feel certain that the Blazers management and many of us fans will regret it if he walks.

Whatever occurs, I wish him well.

by CatMan2 on Nov 7, 2008 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

Sergio has a marketable NBA skill... 6 assists and 0 turnovers in limited minutes... that's awesome

But he has to be at least average at the other parts of his game—shooting and defense.

His shot looked flat last night. It’s still not consistent enough. He needs to keep working, keep working, keep working.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 7, 2008 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder about his shot...

Dude takes like two of them—they’re always 3 pointers or long deuces—and he’s always cold.

I’d love to see Surge play a full quarter when he felt like he had time and leisure to settle in.

One of the his problems is, I believe, trying to pack a season’s worth of argument into the 2-4min chunks that he gets.

But the writing’s on the wall. I think Nate loves Bayless.

Buck Williams for the hall of fame

by Phizbin on Nov 7, 2008 5:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Thats the problem,

Sergio cant hit the open jumper and he cant drive to the hole. When’s the last time we saw him do either?

I love the guy and he could be an awesome point guard if he could only score the ball. His D isnt the problem, its not like Blake’s D is really all that better. We all heard that Sergio was practicing his shooting over the summer but I have yet to see any real improvement. Nate, rightly, wants players that can score the ball. At least Bayless can do that…

by lethaldose on Nov 7, 2008 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you there,

in part. Still, when I see him put it up, his jumpers just dont look all that good. He dosent have the best form. He pushes the ball (pretty east to block). Not enough arc on his shot. Contrast that with Rudy, Roy and Aldridge. Sergio, for better of for worse is just a one trick pony right now. Believe me I wish that was not the case. Really with a jumper he could be as good as Nash. That is the only thing missing with his game….

by lethaldose on Nov 7, 2008 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Sergio's shot has improved

there is no doubt about it. Shooting rhythm matters and it can take awhile to hit (See also B. Roy V. Houston). Sergio’s biggest problem is his defense. I don’t know if that will ever improve but it might. My best case scenario would be Bayless with the starters after learning to be a better distributer and Sergio leading the bench attack with minutes evenly split with Bayless. I think Bayless is a better fit with the starters and Sergio is better with the bench.

  That would mean of course no Steve Blake but isn’t that really the least potential and talented pg of the 3? It would make sense to do the Wallace trade and include Blake if you were KP. That would force Nate’s hand without telling Nate how to coach. Something like this might just happen.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Nov 7, 2008 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

PS

that vision would entail 20 minutes a piece for Sergio and Bayless at the PG with 8 minutes of Rudy and Roy to close things out if those two learn to play together…that is another story.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Nov 7, 2008 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve Blake

may be the least talented, and have the least potential of the three; but he is still the best pg we have, at least at this time. Trading him now; probably not the best idea. Personally, I want to start winning, just tired of losing so players get more “experience.”
 
Right now Blake is running the offense pretty well if you ask me. He is calling the plays, setting things up, really an anchor out there. When Sergio is in the game things seem a little more chaotic.

by lethaldose on Nov 7, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Sergio Zip your Lip

This should have been handled behind closed doors. No excuse Sergio! Blazers are lucky to be 2-3 at this point considering two starters are down and a tough schedule. If I’m Nate my biggest concern is getting these two guys back 100% healthy and contributing ASAP. We don’t need this negative distraction.

by toolman on Nov 7, 2008 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

maybe his Spanish agent went a little off the reservation...

if it wasn’t for the article that appeared in Spain, there wouldn’t have been this 10 minute press conference today. i can’t put that all on Sergio yet, unless the agent was directed by Sergio to make those comments.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 7, 2008 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Frustration understandable; minutes unavailable

I don’t think it’s hard to sympathize with Sergio’s position. He clearly has done a great deal of what the team asked him to do in order to play a bigger role this year—work on defense, play in control, work on shooting. And once again, he has seen his minutes shrink. Now granted, he’s far from perfect in any of the above areas. But he’s putting in the effort and improving and seeing a smaller role. And in fact, the team was playing best last night when Sergio was running the second unit—that’s when the ten point lead was built. So it is totally understandable that he is frustrated.

That said, unless he passes Blake in the depth chart, he’s buried. If Nate is willing to play Roy and Rudy together for long periods of time in the backcourt, Blake essentially plays backup minutes at the point and Sergio picks up the scraps. Nate clearly isn’t willing to entertain an “is Sergio better than Blake” argument, so it would seem we’re at an impasse.

KP is going to say he’s not trading Sergio, because what is a GM supposed to say? I don’t think getting rid of Sergio is a priority, but I think there’s a trade on the way. When Webster and Oden come back, we’re solidly log-jammed at every position. Not enough room for Sergio, Bayless, Outlaw, Batum, Frye, Diogu (just kidding. Nobody cares about Diogu or his feelings). When the big trade occurs and Raef leads the parade of players out of town, either Blake or Sergio will be in that parade, and the other guy will fill out the three-guard rotation.

by Harry Manback on Nov 7, 2008 4:22 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

I honestly don't think it's about minutes

reading that interview, it really appears to be how he is treated by nate. he just doesn’t feel valued as a member of the team by the head coach.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Nov 7, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

But it is about minutes

Sergio is just smart enough to know he can’t say he wants X minutes a night. If you read between the lines in all of his comments, its fairly obvious to me he’d be much, much happier if he was getting 20 minutes a night even if Nate didn’t change his behavior towards him one iota.

by Dave R on Nov 7, 2008 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

its about respect

Yes…part of that is minutes, but he doesnt feel that he has nates confidence or trust. Its like the boss that is always watching over your shoulder to catch you do something wrong…thats why sergio is complaining.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with SFTW

Although Sergio wants more minutes, his biggest beef is that Nate seems to just be trying to find a place to store him, rather than as a valuable member of the team. Are they developing him to be the future starting point guard? I don’t think anyone can say that. What about the backup? Even that’s a question—it seems more like Bayless would be the starter and Blake the backup when it all boils down in a couple years. Where does that leave Sergio?

by jamon51 on Nov 8, 2008 12:24 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey!

I like Ike! Just not enamored of his game at this point…

by CatMan2 on Nov 7, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Good points, that is entirely possible and Sergio probably wouldn’t be against it since he is still too young/ambitious/talented to settle for the role of a third-string point guard.

by Norsktroll on Nov 7, 2008 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

if Sergio improved his defense as much

as he’s improved his decision making and his shot (which is at least average now) then this wouldn’t be an issue.

by DrivetheLane on Nov 7, 2008 4:23 PM PST reply actions  

Where is that lady that helped Webster?

This space for rent, text me for information.

by tominhawaii on Nov 7, 2008 4:25 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Wow, I never suspected you to be Shakespearian relevant, Tom.

Very good work. Wish I could make you green all by myself.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Nov 7, 2008 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

He will miss this locker room when he goes.

Could you imagine how Sheed, or Iverson, or some of those other guys would treat him? He is around people, and a city that loves him. We’ll miss those oops to trout, and Rudy buddy.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Nov 7, 2008 4:36 PM PST reply actions  

Sergio: last year and now.

To the guy who wondered why Jack played more:

Jack’s not a great defender, but he brought something that was sorely needed: he went to the basket, drew fouls, and was generally a tough-minded player. I think we’re still missing that element this year. The team’s been shooting way too many jumpshots.

But about defense: have you ever noticed that Sergio has yet to take a charge in his NBA career? If he has, I haven’t seen it. Mostly, he tries to force turnovers by occasionally gambling for steals. He needs to take some notes from Pryzbilla. When’s the last time you saw him go to the floor for a loose ball? Where’s the hustle and heart? For a guy who so badly wants to play, you’d think he’d make that desire apparent on the defensive end.

The offseason work is good and I like his game otherwise, but there’s something missing and Sergio doesn’t seem to get it.

by Benjamanic on Nov 7, 2008 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

Benjamanic, Amen for your praise of Jack

He is a hard nosed player. His game is far from perfect, but he would sacrifice his body and at times looked plain mean and wouldn’t back down to anyone. This is something that is sorely missed this year.

by toolman on Nov 7, 2008 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The hustle? He never gets knocked down after making a layup either.

It’s entitlement. Man, you’d think he was an American teen with the way he’s acting. Nate owes him nothing.

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by hobobob on Nov 7, 2008 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

the hustle and heart is

in those three rebounds last night, for instance.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Nov 7, 2008 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

This incident

could be the downfall of Sergio regarding this team. But it eventually could be the downfall for Nate because of his rigidity - which I’m sure is becoming obvious to KP and PA. KP has too much class to tell Nate who to play (even Whitsett never did that with his coaches) but it doesn’t mean KP isn’t taking notes.

by TwoDeep on Nov 7, 2008 5:12 PM PST reply actions  

I do not agree

Sergio loses this battle not Nate. Why is Nate “rigid” when he is playing guys who are better than Sergio or who are demanding court time through their play? Who do you sit if you want to get Sergio minutes? Roy? Rudy? Batum? Blake? Outlaw?

Nate told Sergio he won the back-up PG spot. He is the back-up PG for a team that doesn’t really need one to play for 20 minutes a night. There are just too many enticing combinations to use him for very long.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Nov 7, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

But how about 15 minutes.

Don’t you think he’s earned that much reward?

Sergio doesn’t play Nate’s style of game. Nate doesn’t play KP’s style of game. A collision is likely to occur.

by TwoDeep on Nov 7, 2008 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Sergio has not earned it. Nate's a fair hardass

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by hobobob on Nov 7, 2008 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Sergio is currently shooting below the "Rodriguez Line" established last year (.350)...

………………………….. How the HELL does this entitle him to play a quarter? You CAN NOT put a non-threatening PG on the court at the same time as the non-offensive Pryz is on the floor — you can’t go 3-on-5 offensively, no matter how many lame perimeter jumpers are hoisted.

Sergio needs to play on a team that can use his very real skill — PASSING the ball in a run-and-gun D’Antoni-style offense. Whether that’s another team in the NBA or back home in Spain is of little import… The point is that HE’S NEVER GOING TO BE HAPPY AS A TRAILBLAZER because his particular skill-set is an atrocious match for what the Blazers need.

FREE SERGIO -- Trade Him or Cut Him NOW!!!

by timbo on Nov 7, 2008 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

lol at “rodriguez line”…

honor terry porter

by Ben Golliver on Nov 7, 2008 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

lol at judging his shot

with 11 attempts on the season. two games ago he was shooting 50% from the field and behind the arc for the season, but i didn’t see you bringing that up timbo, now did I? your sergio bashing is a joke. stop being so ridiculous. you don’t see me bringing up rex is shooting 16% from the field and 0% from the arc, because it is stupid to use such a small sample size. sergio has only had 5 more attempts than Bayless, and Bayless had a far longer stretch of playing time to find his rhythm. where as sergio never gets more than 6 minutes at a time.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Nov 8, 2008 7:23 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Lol

you showed him :)

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by twiggs on Nov 8, 2008 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Ask yourself...

What is the best line-up you have seen so far? What is the second best? What is the third? Is Sergio on any of these units?

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Nov 7, 2008 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't mean 3 separate groups of players...

Roy, Rudy, Batum, LMA, Joel
Blake, Roy, Outlaw, Aldridge, Frye
Sergio, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Frye

Something like that…

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Nov 7, 2008 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

So far our best unit this year has been

Sergio Rudy Batum Outlaw Frye…

It only lasted for a quarter, but we ran PHX out of the building with it. Personally I’d love to see that lineup again, at least to rule out that its capable of working as a long term lineup.

by as11osu on Nov 8, 2008 12:36 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Best line-up

According to basketballvalue.com

The highest rated units that have played more than 5 minutes together are :
Batum, Nicolas – Fernandez, Rudy – Frye, Channing – Outlaw, Travis – Rodriguez, Sergio (unit)
Aldridge, LaMarcus – Fernandez, Rudy – Frye, Channing – Outlaw, Travis – Rodriguez, Sergio (unit)

More than 10 minutes:
Batum, Nicolas – Fernandez, Rudy – Frye, Channing – Outlaw, Travis – Rodriguez, Sergio (unit)
Aldridge, LaMarcus – Batum, Nicolas – Blake, Steve – Przybilla, Joel – Roy, Brandon (unit)

Individual +/- has Sergio in last place among the top nine in minutes. -34 , Roy is next to last with -25
(Batum & Fernandez are 1 & 2)

by jorga on Nov 8, 2008 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I hadn't seen that site before

It’s kind of interesting. I’m looking forward to checking it out again after a few more games have passed and there’s more data.

by Corvid on Nov 8, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

I knew I would get someone to give me some good info! I too will be checking that site as the season goes on.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Nov 8, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel for Sergio

but I wish someone would have asked him specifically what he wants – yes, more minutes, no, it’s not about minutes. Minutes when? At whose expense and why? Why do you think you are better than Blake? Do you think you should be playing pg with Rudy rather than having Brandon at the point? Brandon should have fewer minutes so you can have more?

I commented last night that here he was playing in the fourth quarter and that hasn’t happened much in his career. Blake went in when things got dicey, but for most of us that was a no-brainer.

Of course he can’t figure out the rotation. It’s not set yet and it’s not going to be till we get Greg and Marty back. And then it’s still going to take time to get it established. Really truly I would not like to have to figure out lineups and rotations when you’ve got Roy/Rudy Nic/Travis/Marty. About all we know will happen is that Greg will start (I assume) and Joel will move to the bench. But will Webster automatically return as a starter? Will that push Nic/Travis to the end of the bench with Ike & Shavlik?

Question for Ben/Dave …. how much do you think KP (and maybe PA) dictate/suggest lineups and playing time? How much do you think Nate listens?

Speaking of PA, it was nice to see him at the game last night, but I saw him walking back to his seat at half time and he was walking very slowly like he was still hurting.

by jorga on Nov 7, 2008 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

I am not Dave or Ben...

but I would wager that if KP and PA started talking about playing certain players more, Nate would kindly say, “You have done your jobs. Let me do mine.”

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Nov 7, 2008 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

It's also perfectly reasonable for Nate to do that

He’s right, it’s definitely his job. I think he’d justify his reasons as well (they’re his bosses, after all)

But from there, he’ll be on the hook all the faster if it doesn’t pay off though.

by Timmay! on Nov 7, 2008 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

Should he not be on the hook? If he is, shouldn’t he make the calls? If they start making the calls he probably wouldn’t be back. Who would want to coach if they can’t coach?

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Nov 7, 2008 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

also keep in mind

that sergio went overseas to a completely new country…without any of his support systems (friends and family) with him…not knowing english…not knowing the culture or anything. that is a huge thing for anyone to do. sergio has had all these forces bringing him down…with essentially only basketball to bring him up.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

this is normal for a young adult

Sergio doesnt know what he wants…thats totally normal for someone his age. He is depressed, confused, and frustrated. I know a ton of people at his age who don’t even know what they want to be when they grow up…they change majors multiple times, they get married to their hs sweetheart only to get divorced. This is a tough age for all people…sergio is just voicing it publically. it may not have as much to do with Sergio the basketball player…but more to do with sergio the adult. Like all people his age he wants to feel important and special.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 5:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I posted earlier

that even Whitsett never told his coaches who to play. I’m sure KP doesn’t either. But in the end, he has the hammer.

If Sergio is traded and he turns out terrific, Nate could easily weather that storm if he is winning big. But if not ……….

by TwoDeep on Nov 7, 2008 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

A month ago, I would have said, "Time to trade Sergio"

But the chemistry between him and Rudy is unmistakable. To my eyes, this thing is working—Sergio playing some with the second unit, as well as sitting when Nate experiments with the Roy / Rudy backcourt. I hope Sergio and Nate get past this incident.

Of course, sooner or later it’ll come down to Sergio vs Bayless. But that choice will come down to how the two players progress over the course of this season. For now, Bayless wouldn’t seem to be a big factor in this controversy.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 7, 2008 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

you know

if sergio wasnt here…i doubt rudy would have came to the nba…that is precisely the reason why rudy didnt get drafted higher…gms didn’t think he’d come. getting rudy to come to the blazers is sergios biggest assist of his career.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, if that's true it says something

Something very bad about Rudy. What happened to all the professionals, and the fans that expected them?

I love Sergio.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Nov 7, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

KP knows...

There is something to that Sergio + Rudy combination.

"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 7, 2008 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

most see it

KP sees it, local media sees it (as evidence by all the “why isnt sergio playing” questions to nate), nation media sees it (hollinger), and the assistant coaches see it…only nate doesnt see it. Perhaps nate is too stubborn to see that he is wrong. Nate has a running team…but he chooses not to run. He also had a running team in seattle but did not run until everyone pressured him into doing so. Maybe its time KP convinces nate to run. Hell its not like we are stopping teams on defense.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

how does that say something bad about rudy?

Nate has not valued Sergios play…it would seem logical for rudy to think the same. Rudy took a huge paycut….HUGE paycut to play off the bench and be a small fish in a big pool. Rudy is all about the team, but he also has to look out for his legacy as well.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I think part of this

Comes from Sergio feeling dissed about not making the Spanish team because he feels like his lack of time last year cost him a roster spot.He also knows in his heart that if Rudy or anybody else in their right mind had the choice of playing with him or Ricky which way the door would swing

by southern oregon on Nov 7, 2008 6:01 PM PST reply actions  

His lack of PT costed him his spot in the National Team

Raul Lopez would never gone to the Olympics if Sergio had averaged 15 mpg. Consider this regarding a player who won the gold medal in the worlds playing a significant role with only 19 or 20 yo.

by Bend3r on Nov 7, 2008 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm certain this plays a huge role

he came to the NBA with high hopes and confidence in his game. He was an Olympian and the next big thing. Now even beyond what you said, he’s playing great basketball and he’s splitting time with a shoot first rookie SG in a PG’s body? I’d be more than happy if we trade Sergio, but you gotta feel for the kid.

by nima on Nov 7, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

i dont wanna burst your bubble

since i’m a sergio fan too…but sergio was never an olympian. he was on the national team…but was cut before the olympics started this year. he was on the gold medal team the year before tho.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Sergio's pissed and rightfully so

He should get more burn. I’m not a huge Sergio fan but Blake hasn’t shown us much lately and I know he’s the starter, but Sergio has been far more effective than the likes of Diogu yet rivals him in minutes. Sergio has a great AT ratio right now and clear chemistry with Rudy. Batum got the nod over Outlaw in large part for his defense, yes, but also because he can play within that offense and facilitate rather than shoot. Outlaw was a volume shooter. I feel like Sergio is a heavily pass-first PG. Wouldn’t that fit nicely along Roy? Not saying he should start. Kids still a defensive liability, but he has definitely earned more burn in my book.

I bet he just went off on the phone after the game to the spanish agent because he was frustrated. Sounds to me like he’s kinda flustered that its gotten blown all big and that probably the spanish agent took it further than he would have liked. I love Nate, but Sergio’s done what he’s asked, in return, reward the kid some.

by nima on Nov 7, 2008 6:15 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

...

I hate the idea of Roy with PG minutes, except late 4th. I do like the idea of Outlaw at the 4 in certain situations. Serg needs more time.

"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 7, 2008 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with your premise

that it probably went much further than Sergio intended and now the kid doesn’t know how to put out the fire. Flustration.

by jorga on Nov 8, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

My problem with Sergio is that I always feel the Blazers are in danger of losing their lead out there

with him. He needs to calm down out there and make the shots he does get. He doesn’t seize on his opportunities. He needs to just work harder than everyone else instead of crying over everything.

by BRoyInThe4th on Nov 7, 2008 6:21 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

hmm

with the highest ast/min ratios in the game and a solid ast/to ratio i’m not too afraid…even if he played atrocious defense, his playmaking still warrants him a good role on the team. his defense has improved this year tho.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

He’s leading the NBA in Ast/48m and ranks 3rd in Ast/TO. I know that they are only 5 games, but it looks like the guy has earned a chance. And he has put those numbers against the best teams of the league (L*kers, SAS, Rockets…).

by Bend3r on Nov 7, 2008 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

The second unit of (L*kers, SAS, Rockets....)

"For the past two seasons it's been like, 'They're young, they're going to need some time,"' Roy said. "It doesn't feel like that this season."

by joelor on Nov 7, 2008 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Would you trade for a player that did that for 5 games?

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by hobobob on Nov 7, 2008 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

sergio

sergio was also number 1 in ast/min ratio his rookie season. i dont know where he was last year but i suspect it near the top. whats improved most this season is his defense (there has been no one that blake could guard that sergio couldnt…and sergio did shut down deron williams when bayless couldnt)…basically its now what would u rather have…Sergios court vision…or blakes ability to make the open shot as both of their defenseare a bit below average.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

...

I agree completely

"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 7, 2008 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

...

It was the opposite last night, with our lead disapearing after Sergio left the floor.

"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 7, 2008 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

ok

today…sergio in his 2nd half stint got a 7 pt swing from down 2 to +5…only to see it dwindle again when blake was in. against the rockets we had a 10 pt lead when we were down previously with sergio in the game…afterwards we were damn near going into OT or possibly losing the game. sergio has bad defense, and a non reliable shot…but blake also plays poor defense. from preseason to now sergio has definitely helped us more than he has hurt us. do i think he should start? no…does he deserve 15-19 mins a game at blakes expense? yes. bayless should eat 3-5 into blakes role too.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

Sergio just feels a little lost. He feels like he’s improved, and expected that improvement to solidify him as the #2 point guard. I think he’s just uncertain of his future with Bayless waiting in the wings, and he hasn’t ever had that show of confidence from Nate that he needs. His confidence is iffy as a result, and it might impact his game. He just needs to get his head right, realize that [i]right now[/i] he is the first PG off the bench, and that the job is his to lose. He seems like a player (person) who needs positive reinforcement, and maybe Nate isn’t giving him that.

Things happen for a reason they say, but I say there's a reason things happen.

by sixth on Nov 7, 2008 6:31 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Rudy+Batum+Sergio

i don’t know if this is the first, the second, the 3th or 4 th unit but this is a f****king good unit.

Dave told them “the eurpean union”

i think they played togrther just in one game for a few minuts and they did great (i dont remember if was againsr Utah or San Antonio)

by tacus on Nov 7, 2008 7:02 PM PST reply actions  

None of that veiled cursing.

That’s a no-no.

"For the past two seasons it's been like, 'They're young, they're going to need some time,"' Roy said. "It doesn't feel like that this season."

by joelor on Nov 7, 2008 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

ok, i change it for “really really”

by tacus on Nov 7, 2008 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

OK

I’ll leave it up this time then. Thanks!

—Dave

by Dave on Nov 7, 2008 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

There are too many stars in that for any word I can come up with.

by Norsktroll on Nov 7, 2008 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

After thinking about this whole thing for awhile,

I think Sergio hasn’t handle this appropriately at all. Making this public scene is ridiculous. Whether he’s to blame or his agent, it demonstrates a lot of selfishness.

Everybody faces adversity, but in the team context you should make your adversity a distraction for the others.

What I do like about this whole thing is it distracts talk of Oden. However, Segio is doing the team a disfavor. He should either talk to Nate privately, or as they always say in basketball, let your play speak for itself. Complaining like this is always the downhill route.

by hotstuffdb22 on Nov 7, 2008 7:26 PM PST reply actions  

oops...

the 3rd sentence should read “…but in the team contet you should not make your adversity…”

by hotstuffdb22 on Nov 7, 2008 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

See my comment below.

by JasonT on Nov 7, 2008 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

he vented in private

sometimes when things go wrong u just need someone to talk to. imagine if you committed a sin and confessed in private to your preist only to have him go public with your confession. sergio did nothing wrong. he was right to be happy…his agent was not right for airing it in public. he is not selfish…nate has mislead him on many occassions. he is right to feel cheated. he has paid his dues and has been very coachable.

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by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone asked Bayless how he feels?

Or how about Frye? Or what about Diogu? I mean…why aren’t they getting more minutes? How does Joel feel about losing his starting spot to a rookie who was injured all of last year?

Maybe the only solution is to have Nate equally divide all the minutes up between the entire roster. That way no one gets their feelings hurt.

by JasonT on Nov 7, 2008 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

its different

nate mislead sergio…bayless hasnt put in the work to improve his game nor has he been given any promises by nate. bayless also has no reason to complain as up to the sergio complaint he averaged more mins than sergio. nate should have been straight up with sergio and not have led him on. nate did the same thing to batum. i’m sure batum felt cheated at first too, but nate has shown confidence in him since his mistakes.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

...

This PG story line is getting interesting…

Im going to go do a Dynasty on nba 2k9 with Blazers :)

"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 7, 2008 7:50 PM PST reply actions  

Just got my 2k9

So far so good although the console-port-to-PC-menu is terrible. I’m liking the game a lot more than NBA Live although NBA Live has a better menu system.

Sorry, brief rabbit trail…

by jamon51 on Nov 8, 2008 12:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

and recc’d. We need to turn this one green folks.

An open door policy is a two way street.

Exactly. And I like how you gave Sergio some advice too. Right on.

by jamon51 on Nov 8, 2008 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what more Nate needs to say.

Here’s an example of what I mean. Nate said, you need to work on your shooting. Last season you barely cracked 35%.

Ok, says Sergio, and spends some time with Townsend.

Sergio comes back and shoots 27%.

Does Nate really have to tell him again? Does Sergio need it to be spelled out for him that this is not actually an improvement? Shouldn’t he be aware, without feedback, that an NBA player has to make more than a quarter of his shots to stick in the league?

by abdelnaby on Nov 8, 2008 1:46 AM PST up reply actions  

That's the self awareness that I was talking about

And why it is a two way street. Granted it is a small sample size of games, and his shot does look better, but the results aren’t there. He needs to keep working on this part of his game. But he also needs game opportunities to get comfortable with his new stroke and bottom line he needs to develop self confidence. If he does that I guarantee the shots will start falling at a higher rate. It’s up to Nate to help him develop that self confidence. That’s his job as a manager/coach.

"From Bill Walton to Brandon Roy, we wanna know it all
From Clyde Drexler to Greg Oden, from the basket to the ball
Every move they make is covered, somebody make the call
The shot clock's always running at Blazers Edge"

by blazermaniac32 on Nov 8, 2008 4:31 AM PST up reply actions  

dude

sergio has taken 11 shots. that’s too small a sample to decide. until two games ago he was shooting 50% from the field AND behind the arc. jee, Brandon until OT was shooting worse in one game than Sergio for the season. (3-11 vs 4-16). He shot has looked much better, and I suspect if he had a little more time to get into rhythm and wasn’t having his confidence hacked away by Nate he might have hit 2 more shots, for instance, and be shooting a very solid percentage.

Free Sergio! http://www.freesergio.com

by sergioFTW on Nov 8, 2008 7:27 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

this is fair

and in general I agree that small sample sizes can be trouble. On the flipside, then, I don’t think you can argue that Sergio has earned more playing time because his assist numbers are so terrific. The same sample size that might be depressing his shooting numbers might be inflating his dimes.

by abdelnaby on Nov 8, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Brilliant!

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Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Nov 8, 2008 4:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Also this is a great problem to have

We have talent. We need to develop that talent. Nate has a lot on his plate. He needs to meld different personalities, different skill sets, different maturity levels (both physical and mental) and also look at the strengths and weaknesses of his opponents. That’s why he has so many assistant coaches. Plus the support of upper management.

When was the last time we could say we have too much talent? A new problem to have and one the organization is learning to deal with. Much rather have these type of problems then some of our past problems.

"From Bill Walton to Brandon Roy, we wanna know it all
From Clyde Drexler to Greg Oden, from the basket to the ball
Every move they make is covered, somebody make the call
The shot clock's always running at Blazers Edge"

by blazermaniac32 on Nov 8, 2008 4:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Trade Blake

Why not deal Blake and let Sergio and Bayless split the PG duties?

by Maximus Blaze on Nov 7, 2008 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

now is not the time to deal blake

he is valuable to this team as a calming influence and does have solid bbiq. i would like to see his minutes decrease over time to down to 20-23 mins a game however. theres gotta be a balance between getting experience for players and winning. this year blake hasnt brought much except his ability to hit the open shot, but he is still valuable to this team. although he is a veteran i cant picture him doing too many good things to be a mentor for our other pgs.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

if sergio could shoot the 3 as well as blake

it would be a different story. brandon roy has the ball in his hands a lot — he leads the team in assists. so the pg playing with him needs to be able to hit the 3. this is not (to say the least) sergio’s strength.

this is why, in time, bayless may (especially if he is as good as rumored at on the ball defense of quick pgs) be a better fit.

i’d love to see sergio shoot a higher pct. i like him. but he seems to have some weaknesses. remember also how badly he shot fts last year.

ignacio

by ignacio on Nov 7, 2008 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

this is why I think we already have the solution to our PG problems

play Rudy there. Put Batum in for defensive stoppage or Webster for another slasher/3 pt threat. that line up is nasty.

by nima on Nov 7, 2008 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

...

You act like Blake has range but he was 0-4 last night beyond the line. Funny fact, in every game we have won, Blake has done nothing. Sergio has 2 less assists then Blake, yet Blake played about 17 more mins.

"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 7, 2008 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

blake cant defend...nor can he dish out the assists

his greatest asset is the ability to hit the open shot. thats a nice skill, but if thats your only trick you shouldnt get 30 mins a game.

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

blah blah blah

Me: Hey Sergio, what’s the matter?
Sergio: I just don’t get enough respect. I’m a marginally good PG that shows fancy skills every now and again, yet I’m not the starting PG and I don’t understand why… I want to be traded.
Me: See ya!

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by mark twain on Nov 7, 2008 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

Bayless fanboi

"I just know that I can't get big, I can't eat whatever I want to. I have to eat healthy, I have to stay right, I have to stay involved and ... I have to be here at practice because you know what? I can play pretty quick."

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 7, 2008 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

And with good reason.

FREE SERGIO -- Trade Him or Cut Him NOW!!!

by timbo on Nov 7, 2008 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

when has sergio asked to be started?

he just wants confidence from his coach and more mins….is 15 mins all too much to ask?

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Heavy Sigh....

This is begining to sound more like a bigger issue than I thought. Oh well, dealing with a young frustrated PG is really a “normal” challenge for a franchise. I’d rather deal with a frustrated Sergio Rodriguez than some of the personel problems we’ve had to deal with in the past.

I hope this can be resolved without it becoming a big distraction to the teams focus. I agree with McMillan in so far as I think this should of been handled behind the scenes. Nothing good comes from public ministrations of frustration.

My frustration as a fan comes from I think Sergio is creating a situation where we will be forced to trade him, and I’d rather he stay. He’s 4 games into the season and already upset? It’s too bad he doesn’t seem willing to look at the big picture. 15=16, but seems 4 games into the season and we are already looking at 14 plus a disgruntled 1.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Nov 7, 2008 10:44 PM PST reply actions  

It was inevitable

This is just a bad situation for both Sergio and the organization. On one hand I sympathize with Sergio’s frustration about lack of playing time, but I think he could have handled his grievances in a better manner. This should have been handled within the organization with discussions held between Coach, KP, Sergio, and maybe even Sergio’s agent. Then again frustration leads one to do things one normally wouldn’t do in a more stable state of mind.

I’d like to keep Sergio for at least another year. The Blazers must value him since they picked up his fourth year option not too long ago, and he continues to get some playing time in the rotation. He’s the best pg prospect we have besides Bayless. It’d be nice to see him get more minutes during games to develop his game though. Fifteen to eighteen minutes per game, mostly in the second and late third to early fourth quarters. He’s not hurting us that much with TO ‘s anymore, his liability on defense is pretty similiar to Blake’s, plus the offense flows so much better with him in. I’m not giving up on Sergio yet. I just have a feeling he’s going to be one of those players who comes back to bite us in the gluteus maximus if we trade him away a la Jermanine O’neil or what Rudy will be to the Suns.

by MonaLisa8 on Nov 7, 2008 11:19 PM PST reply actions  

Try to put yourself in Sergio's shoes

I joked in the post about Ben’s pictures about the possible destinations KP could send him. And I hate that his agent came out with this interview so early in the season. I doubt that helps Sergio’s case with the team. But I think it’s entirely understandable he (and his agent) are frustrated.

  • He has undeniable talents to handle the ball. Maybe they don’t fit this team really well (see Hollinger’s take), but they are there.
  • He is still very young (22), and wants to be progressing and get more responsibility/playing time. Instead he is stagnating.
  • He was a rising star in Spain, while here he is a third-string point guard. He can’t mentally settle for that (and Pritchard said he would be worried if he did).
  • He might be realizing he came over to the NBA a few years too early (compared e.g. to Rudy)
  • He didn’t get much playing time behind Jack and Blake last year, which became a major reason for being left off the Olympic team.
  • The team traded away Jack, giving him the idea that he would be #2 now (maybe falsely, but I don’t think he had B-Rex in his plans).
  • The coaching staff told him two things for the off-season: Improve your shot. Improve your physique to become a better defender. By all accounts he worked on that, especially on rebuilding his shot with our shooting coach to give it more arc and precision
  • Rudy comes to the team, getting Sergio’s hopes up to play a lot with a guy he knows very well on the court and talk to off the court.

Now what happens instead: Next to nothing. Blake is still #1 with no intention to change this. Roy gets more playing time at the PG spot. Bayless is breathing down his neck. His minutes get yanked around so he never knows if and when he will be on the floor – and with whom. Apparently Nate told him he is the first backup off the bench, then didn’t do a great job explaining to Sergio what is expected of him in this role the way he might have hoped he would. I would guess this is because Sergio is a little afraid talking to Nate, Nate hasn’t completely figured out the rotation by himself, and isn’t the kind of coach who explains all his decisions to his players. I can see why that leaves a young player like Sergio confused, and confusion leads quickly to frustration.

Maybe part of the solution would be if Sergio and his US agent (not the Spanish one) talk to KP and Nate about his future role on the team. Taking Rudy with him might look too much like a “we the Spanish guys against you”, which wouldn’t be in the best interest of Sergio or Rudy. Then see if they can find common ground in such a meeting.

by Norsktroll on Nov 8, 2008 12:13 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

You've laid it out very evenhandedly...

…………………………… the bottom line is that he needs to be elsewhere.

FREE SERGIO -- Trade Him or Cut Him NOW!!!

by timbo on Nov 8, 2008 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

ben

why didn’t you ask coach about the segio soap opera?

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Nov 8, 2008 7:19 AM PST reply actions  

scared? ;)

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Nov 8, 2008 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

i was a bit late getting to practice and he had already addressed it. nate’s statement is linked up in the hoopsworld article at the bottom.

honor terry porter

by Ben Golliver on Nov 8, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Can Sergio only play 6 minutes at a time

Because he’s a smoker and doesn’t have the stamina? Maybe he ran off to have a smoke in the Rocket’s game.

by tominhawaii on Nov 8, 2008 7:51 AM PST reply actions  

A couple more months will clear the air

The timing of Sergio’s outburst bites but I think most people on here have to have a sense of some frustration from the players on this team. There is noway we can keep this much young talent in check, sure Bayless will giveway this season to learning the nba but he will not play bench warmer happily for very long in this league.

The pg position is stacked with players who probably all deserve some time but then we will always be blogging about cohesiveness, I think that pf is the biggest log jam on the team, anyone think there may be some hard feelings at the sf position when Martell comes back.

KP will almost have to make 3-1 type move come trade deadline time. I just hope this thing stays a snow shower and not a snow storm.

by Dragonage on Nov 8, 2008 9:31 AM PST reply actions  

Where are the showcase conspiracy theorists?

If we really want to trade this guy, we ought to give him more time, not less, and see if he goes on a tear.

Buck Williams for the hall of fame

by Phizbin on Nov 8, 2008 10:31 AM PST reply actions  

To tell you the truth

in the games that I saw (4),… that, although Sergio was not spectacular, the game seemed to flow better…no one on this team has been consistent, so far, except for Prys……I can understand Sergio’s question, when his play is no worse that others, when you compare play in a contribution mode ….Nate has always had unusual substitutions….they don’t seem to follow any logic…..Example: Outlaw had a hot hand in the Houston game and he took him out……the first 2 games, Outlaw was nowhere to be found on offense or “D” and he left him in……I’m afraid Sergio does not get any benefits from Nate’s system (whatever that is)…there is no conspiracy, but there does seem to be plenty of confusion

by 67 on Nov 8, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Better for Sergio to be traded

the Sergio’s situation could be understanable in his rookie season but not in his 3th nba year. He’s a young and talented player (maybe not very good but talented for sure)

he needs a real chance. if he plays 9 min per game in fractions of 2 minuts no mather if you playng great or badly, he is going to lose the selftrust that he rebuilt last summer. Everybody knows Outlaw needs to play some bad games with alot of bad shots just to warm up and start to be good…. maybe Sergio needs it too!!

You have to be the Jedy or mental superman to hold that stress and preasure…. so he is going to be worst and worst throug the season, not improving (like last season). Then the people is going to say… “i told you, he is bad!”

so… if Nate doesn’t likes him is better for just sit at the end of the bench an play 0.0 minutes waiting to be traded.

i was thinking…… if Rudy had gone to the Blazers three years ago maybe now he could be in the same situation than Sergio is right now…. think about that!! (of course with Nate as a coach). the bigest Sergio’s mistake is go to the nba too young-soon-not mature (To Ricky Rubio: pay atention!)

sorry for my english

go blazers!

by tacus on Nov 8, 2008 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

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