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The game recap is coming soon but in the meantime, don't sleep on this:
Pro Basketball News is reporting that a move for Charlotte's Gerald Wallace is imminent. You can read the whole story through the link. Portland is considered a possible destination.
There are scenarios involving Raef LaFrentz or some combination of Channing Frye, Travis Outlaw, and Steve Blake that work. There are also three-way scenarios with Golden State giving up Al Harrington which are possible.
It's an interesting possibility anyway.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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now I feel bad for the bad things I said about outlaw....
and raef.
blake though? ya think?
frye could get the axe.
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Verrrrrrry interesting
I hope Frye doesn’t get sent. Not so much for anything he does on the court (though he is solid for what he is) but because he is probably the most “Portland” guy in the league.
I’ll be sad if he is gone.
wow
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hes good on offense but...
can he play defense?
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Wallace is an amazing defender
the downside is that he does not have that good an outside shot, but if we can get him for RLEC DO IT!!!
The season is here.
Are you kidding?!!?!?!
So far this season (and this is indicative of his career)
he is averaging 23.5 points, 7.5 rebs, 2 Blocks and 2 Steals! He plays defense
wow didnt know that
i mean he would be great upgrade over outlaw in that sense..i know wallace can dunk too, bring a nice driving game.
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Defender first
Scorer second.
He would be our best defender by far and would take on the other team’s best player.
If he can stay healthy (lotsa concussion problems to go with other injuries caused by his aggressive style and bad luck), and is okay not being the first option on offense, this would be a HUGE get if the price isn’t catastrophic— and if they are shopping him like all the rumors say, it’s a buyer’s market.
Wallace would be awesome, if he is okay with less shots. I confess I don’t know enough about his personality or temperment to know if he WOULD be okay with that… but in theory, he’d be very, very nice for a team that struggles defensively and getting out on the break.
Mortimer
Wallace would be a nice fit
That’s a lot of dough. But we couldn’t do much better at the 3 spot.
Exactly.
If it’s not Gerald Wallace, it starts getting into the Danny Granger and Up land. Problem with that “Land” is it includes the various Paul Pierce, Tracy McGrady types. Gerald Wallace is the best we can do without getting a guy who is too much of a star to fit in.
All things considered, I don’t understand how we could get Wallace without giving up more than we’re willing to. If we have 4 untouchable players (Roy, LMA, Oden, Fernandez), isn’t every team entitled to at least that many? And then what team /wouldn’t/ put Wallace in that category?
Of course
It’s entirely possible that it’s not us.
And it’s entirely possible that Wallace won’t even get traded. Let’s just be patient on this one.
Harrington trade is simpler and seems more likely
But maybe Wallace and Felton for a whole bunch o Blazers?
felton would be a nice PG upgrade i think
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This works on the Trade Machine
Portland gets Wallace and Felton
Charlotte gets Diogu, Blake, and Outlaw.
I like Wallace for Diogu and Outlaw, that doesn’t work due to cap restrictions.
I don’t know whether I like Blake for Felton since I haven’t seen enough of Felton. – Elgin.
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I love Wallace
But… I don’t wanna give up TOO much for him.
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by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 6, 2008 11:30 PM PST reply actions
If we don't include Roy, Oden, Aldridge or Rudy
I can’t think of anyone we shouldn’t give up for him. Can you?
Add Pryzbilla to that list then
no I can’t. I love Wallace, but rarely get to see him play. I would trade just about anybody outside of those 5 to get him, even if I would be sad to see them go.
I also wouldn't add Pryz..
And would pray to keep Outlaw. But reailstically Wallace is an upgrade in a LOT of ways.
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by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 7, 2008 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
gerald wallace is a nice sf
who doesnt have much of an outside shot. certainly not known for hitting the 3.
it seems like we need a sf who can shoot the 3. if we traded for wallace — what would happen to martell and batum? 10 min a night?
wallace plays over 40 min a lot at charlotte.
ignacio
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hmm
No outside shot, but the rest of our starters have a pretty good stroke, Aldridge is even making 3’s this season. Maybe Webster would complement him as a backup really well, since he has a great shot? I don’t know much about Gerald Wallace to be honest
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I don't think so
It is highly unlikely that Portland will do the trade. Webster and Batum makes a pretty decent small forward for the foreseeable future.
...
Wallaces value is amazing still, pritchard could turn around and use him + ??? as a trading chip.
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by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 6, 2008 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
Trade
Could be Portland trying to move the PG position into the future by combining Blake in a trade, letting Sergio start & let Bayless be a scoring threat on the bench. That duo seems much more dynamic then any combo that includes Blake.
Ridding us of RLEC would be amazing & Gerald Wallace could certainly help us.
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GOOD NEWS (possibly)
http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2008/11/felton-okafor-a.html
" Some of you have asked if the Bobcats might be interested in Al Harrington, who the Golden State Warriors have made available in trade. From what I’m getting, probably not, since he’s more a ‘tweener than a pure power forward and he’s become primarily a jump-shooter offensively (the Bobcats already have plenty of those.)"
SO YOU’RE SAYING THERE’S A CHANCE!!!
The season is here.
Wait, so you wouldn't make this deal?
The only other guy I think would be a better move for us is Kirk Hinrich, and even then, Wallace is a superior player.
No, I have been a wallaec fan for a long time
This is a link saying that cha is not interested in Harrington and we may have a chance
The season is here.
Except that the main guy we'd probably look at sending for Wallace would be Outlaw
who can be described thusly:
“He’s more a ‘tweener than a pure power forward and he’s become primarily a jump-shooter offensively (the Bobcats already have plenty of those.)”
Or maybe Channing Frye. But then I’d say he’s more a ‘tweener than a pure power forward and he’s become primarily a jump-shooter offensively (the Bobcats already have plenty of those.)
Then again, with Emeka Okafor out there what do you want? Another post player?
—Dave
by Dave on Nov 7, 2008 12:29 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually I have heard
that Brown is being forced to start May cause they aint got no one else @ PF. They can start Emeka @ PF but that would leave Nazr at C even though EO is 5 lbs heavier.
They could use a PF and Diogu Raef and a butt load of future 1sts and 2nds with $3m may get the job done.
If the owner is trying to sell, $16m off the cap next year, $6m of savings this year from Raef, and $3m in cazoola may do wonders for the situation. Cha is not going to be selling out many games in the 1st place and with the econ the way it is, we may have the upper hand here.
The season is here.
I hope so.
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Portland would be smart to trade for Wallace.
I would think Martell Webster and Channing Frye and Diogu would perhaps entice the Bobcats, since they will probably be looking to save money while picking up a talented young, cheaper small forward. But the Blazers would be scary good with Wallace.
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Holy crap.
Please Lord, let it happen.
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how about
RLEC, Bayless, outlaw
FOR
Wallace, Felton, and anyone Ajinca or Dudley
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
should have read
either ajinca or dudley for cap matching.
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
which would likely be ajinca
as Dudley is getting a lot of run for them.
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
Don't really wanna give up Bayless
He could be GREAT for us down the road.
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by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 7, 2008 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
He could be great for trade-bait again...
We don’t need a drive/shoot first PG or, what he truly is, an undersized SG that won’t see much playing time behind Roy and Rudy. You can’t pass up on an All-Star quality player for the hopes that somebody like Bayless MIGHT be good later.
well put
We can’t pass up a young All-star quality player just because we think we MIGHT have a good player (down the road) in Bayless. I like Bayless but I would be willing to part if the trade called for him to be dealt. We must always remember when trading that proven is better than potential (unless you have the crazy Hall of fame potential like Oden supposedly has).
by BrokeButStoked on Nov 7, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Well
KP knows whats going on now in the NBA so he will try to figure out what Bobcats want, cuz he knows Wallace is way too good to pass by and not even asking.
I'll feel bad if KP moves Webster or Outlaw but if KP thinks it's best I agree.
Wallace is a great player.
I'd like to see 2 deals:
RLEC for Wallace and then pick up Heinrich somehow.
What a great defensive squad that would be.
Koponen - PG of the future. For Italy, that is. Book it.
Don't even say it.
My heart would explode with joy.
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Ya except that
Hinrich is a bad defender. What is wrong with everyone here thinking that Hinrich is this major upgrade? He’s not. Not to mention he’s still owed 40 million dollars. Just say no to Hinrich.
Where do you get that from?
2007 NBA all-defensive second team? Kansas Defensive Player Award in college? Played for Kansas? Didn’t Pat Riley praise (and accuse) Hinrich for his defensive abilities on D-Wade?
Hardly a bad defender.
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by RecordTOs on Nov 7, 2008 1:35 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Have you seen the guy lately?
Last year he was the 5th worst defensive PG in the entire league. He got absolutely dusted up by every single PG he’s gone up against. There is a reason that even last year, a year in which Derrick Rose wasn’t on the team, he WASN’T the freaking Chicago Bulls main PG. Does that not strike you as a little odd? This all world defender that we NEED to get, wasn’t even playing the majority of the minutes for a pathetic Bulls team last year. Lets just say this’d be the easiest pass in the world considering his contract. You don’t pay a PG on the down turn of his career 40 million dollars. He can’t shoot the 3 as well as the guy we currently have, he also has problems with athleticism and can’t penetrate the lane, and his defense has gotten very bad very quickly. He shouldn’t even be considered.
Was he matched up on PGs?
I don’t know the rating that lists him 5th worst, but last season WAS a bad year for Hinrich…
HOWEVER, because Gordon is short and not a good defender (though he tries), the Bulls usually put Hinrich on the opposing shooting guards, and Gordon on the shorter PGs. If PGs caused the Bulls problems, it was usually Gordon being the problem, not Hinrich.
Hinrich had to have been the main PG last year… are you saying Duhon played more minutes at PG? If that is true… that’s bad coachin’. No way Duhon is better than Hinrich.
And no PG will consistently look great guarding bigger SGs. It’s a lose-lose for Hinrich on paper.
I have not been able to watch him recently though, and he got way down on himself last season and we don’t need a shoulder slumper who doesn’t BEE-LIEVE.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Nov 7, 2008 4:53 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Their owner is rumored to be trying to sell the team.
For a team in cost cutting mode, RLEC would be perfect.
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This is the guy.
No character issues or age issues. Make it happen cap’n!
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Stop raining on my parade...
Not cool dawg… ;)
Well… yeah. I figure we tempt fate and go for it. I am in a gambling mood.
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He's good for 60 games a year.
Plus, it’s only his head (brain) that is injury prone, I think he’s knees are pretty OK. KP’s just making sure we have every body part covered.
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I know, overall he is pretty healthy but prone to concussions due to his style of play. I think he has started wearing a special mouthpiece that limits some impact. Is it allowed to wear soft Rugby helmets in basketball? There is a famous soccer goalkeeper who had to start wearing one after a severe concussion. It would look a little stupid, but he could make it his trademark like Rip’s mask.
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by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 7, 2008 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
I'd say rudy is also untouchable too
especially after how he made Artest chase him around during the 4th qtr. It may be that Roy is fianlly slid over to the PG position making Blake expendable. Otherwise we have to trade for position which means it either Martell or Trout if we target Wallace. I’d prefer to keep Martell, as his stroke and defense is more valuabel than Trout’s ability to get an open shot. Wallace would really help the Blazers wing toughness on D. I wouldn’t be upset if we sat by and did nothing, but Wallace is a very good asset to try and acquire.
cost cutting move for Charlotte:
Wallace/Mohammed
FOR
RLEC/Outlaw/Bayless
They clear two guys totallng $16 million for an expiring contract, a solid 6th man on a reasonable contract, and a rookie with some good potential
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
Oden/Wallace/LMA
That’s an interesting frontcourt. I like it. We instantly go from on of the softest teams in the NBA, to well, something tougher than we are now.
If Travis does go, I’m glad he ended with a great game.
That would be the most athletic lineup in the NBA.
Rudy, Roy, Wallace, Aldridge, Oden.
Giving [Batum] the freedom to go for steals is going to be like giving a redneck six boxes of ammo and a quarter mile of empty Bud cans. - Dave
yeah, but we would still likley get next to no fast break points...
i realize the game has changed, but growing up watch TP/CD/JK and company running the break spoiled me. I want to see us RUN!
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
Rudy and Nic are perfect for breakaway points after a steal or rebound
We could still run some, but this team will never look like a D’Antoni team under Nate.
What?
But his specialty is finishing in transition. Wallace has breathtaking speed and can finish on the run with spectacular jams, making him among the league’s most dangerous players on the break. -ESPN
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
Wallace is great on the break
As is Rudy.
If we have Wallace (who can run the break himself as a point forward), we have the UH OH guy Kersey used to be.
I’d venture a bold guess and say we’d be ten times better and more active on the fastbreak than ever in recent history.
Mortimer
Oden is kind of unathletic lately :O
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by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 7, 2008 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
But he is also regarded as potentially
the most athletic big man of his generation, right up there with Howard.
Giving [Batum] the freedom to go for steals is going to be like giving a redneck six boxes of ammo and a quarter mile of empty Bud cans. - Dave
potential
only time will tell for Oden.
by BrokeButStoked on Nov 7, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Fun with the trade machine
Best case scenario:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=31991026454&teams=222230&te=&cash=
2nd best:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=221110262750454&teams=22223030&te=&cash=
3rd best IMO
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=221110264542795&teams=22223030&te=&cash=
and then lastly:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=221110264542015&teams=22223030&te=&cash=
The season is here.
apparently he has been falling out of favor
with Brown as morrison is getting more pt.
plus he has a big contract that will help them and cost us more $$ wise, but if we can get Diogu out, we give them a chance to save $$ and they do need a PF as well.
The season is here.
I like the way you think :)
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by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 7, 2008 12:24 AM PST up reply actions
why not...
webster, diogu, frye for wallace?
Allows CHA to drop 5 mil in salary and pick up a young talent on essentially a MLE deal. Gives them the PF help they need for this season without any long term deals at PF. You could throw picks and cash at them if you felt it was necessary.
by invinoveritas on Nov 7, 2008 2:37 AM PST up reply actions
It would take more than RLEC
to get Wallace. My guess is it would take something like…
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=201527951026&teams=303022&te=&cash=
or
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2750275420151026&teams=30303022&te=&cash=
to get him. So are you willing to give up actual talent for a player like Wallace?
I don't like it
We need a 1 a lot more than a 3.
I agree that Wallace is an upgrade at the 3, but he’s not the outside shooter that our team needs to play the inside-out game. which seems to be KPs plan.
That said, in KP I trust. So, if it happens, I’ll get behind it in a hurry
More Blazing, Less Trailing
agreed on the 1
but if you can get a talent like Wallace for spare parts, you do it, and it just gives you more tools later to make a move on a 1. Trading bench guys or contracts for starters is ALWAYS a good move.
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
Bayless
I for one wouldn’t have any problem with us trading Bayless, he is a PG sized shooting guard a la Juan Dixon / Salim Stoudamire, and he is a project. Even if he turns out to be a very solid NBA player, trading him to get a player like Wallace is OK with me
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by isaacjoe on Nov 7, 2008 12:04 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
By getting Wallace, the Blazers can pretty much switch to win now (and later) mode. When has a undersized two guard EVER become a true PG?
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It's not looking good.
Purity scale.
Jason Kidd 67
Deron Williams 62
Chris Paul 57
Kirk Hinrich 56
Mario Chalmers 49
Russell Westbrook 40
Baron Davis 40
DJ Augustin 37
Jerryd Bayless 29
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Where's Sergio rate in there?
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They didn't say.
It has got to be super high though, probably a little below Kidd.
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
I think the interesting thing in the aritcle
is that it says KP wants to be involved in a blockbuster. That could mean more than two teams. Who’s to say we end up with Wallace at all? He is a stud, but he could end up going to another team in a 3-4 team deal. Knowing KP, we can never put anything past him.
i wouldve liked to see the 08 version of martell
but who knows? whatever kp does im not gonna cry. he and nate know these players much better than i do god knows.
ignacio
Portland played 10 minutes tonight with only Rudy and Roy running the point.
I thought Rudy looked OK guarding Rafer Alston. With Wallace proving major shot blocking skills in the middle I think you could use Rudy and Roy together more.
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all depends on matchups though
specifically, who’s at PG for the other team. We could do that tonight with Alston on the floor. Not so much with Parker or Paul or others in that mold.
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
Alston is pretty quick though.
The Bulls used to do it when Jordan ran the point. They would just have their bigs+ Pippen collapse every time a guard got past Jordan. The Hornets do the same thing. I think having back Oden will help. Once point guards know they can’t drive into the paint we should put a stop to all the easy layups.
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I think Blake/Sergio/Rudy/Roy
is enough of a playmaking backcourt to win a lot of games, but I do worry about the D that Bayless can bring.
The main thing is can he ever learn to run a team?
I have been a big Bayless supporter and do like him, but if he is the cost of Wallace I would make that deal.
Although it would make more sense to trade one of the SF we have already, as that would leave us with TO, Webs, Batman AND wallace for only 48 mins total to go around.
The season is here.
Is that a joke?
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wallace in 4 games has hit 5/8 3-pters
better than i thought
ignacio
Note folks
that I’m not implying this will happen or that it’s close to happening with Portland. I’m delivering it at face value from that news source, which does mention the Blazers among other teams.
The interesting part to me will be seeing where Wallace goes.
Personally I don’t know if we have the right package to get him.
—Dave
Yeah this is all probably just a tease
but it sure is fun to imagin aint it?
As I replied above, $12-16m off the books next year, $6m off this year and $3m cash to grease the machine may get this party started. The cha owner is trying to get rid of the team and may not care about how it does, if it is not his by the end of the year.
With the econ the way it is he may be putting the team on a sale price for perspective buyers next year.
The season is here.
wow that is
$21-25m worth of savings possibly, if we give them RLEC and Diogu. $12.7m savings next year possibly more with additional contracts, $6m savings the 2nd half of this year and $3m upfront savings.
For a cheap owner with a rudderless team, that is a LOT of incentive.
The season is here.
by SpyderRyder on Nov 7, 2008 12:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We will get him.
Good things happen in threes.
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he's charlotte's leading scorer
so it’s a little hard to imagine them just taking bench-players in return. pr-wise that’s a tough sell. and all of our sfs at this point are bench-players (even if martell started last year — he only averaged 10 pts).
ignacio
Expiring contracts
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anyone feels there`s someone on those possible 3rd party teams we might be interested in???
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Monta Ellis ;-)
Or Conley, if Memphis gets involved to absorb cap space since they are about the only team that has some right now. New York has next to no assets.
NOOOOOO MONTA
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The Bulls could sure use a guy like Wallace.
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
Wallace can play power forward.
I don’t have much faith in Tyrus Thomas.
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No.
I don’t have much faith in Gooden, Noah, or Nocioni.
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with Wallace's concussion problem...
playing PF might not be such a good idea. In fact I think that’s how he got injured last season.
by invinoveritas on Nov 7, 2008 2:43 AM PST up reply actions
please....
let`s not go anywhere near monta…. and I`m not even talking about his “moped incident”… how does he fit in our current team?
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by kidiblaze on Nov 7, 2008 12:54 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Blockbuster three-way trade Portland, Charlotte, Golden State
This might work, but of course there are many reasons why it wouldn’t go through. Probably it will be a much smaller deal, and we don’t know which player exactly we are targeting.
Awesome Trade Norsktroll
Although I’m lukewarm on Felton, getting Ajinca would be somewhat of a coo given that it’d help Batum (not that it looks like he needs much help) adjust to life here, and his astonishing array of talents. He was one of my favorite prospects from this years draft, and he’d have time to hone his craft while sitting. Obviously getting Gerald Wallace would be the whole reason for the move and I think he makes us a legitimate playoff team from the moment he steps on the court. I really like how, while Wallace can shoot, he just as often opts to take the ball in, or get points the old fashioned way inside. He’s a terrific finisher, and would give us a skill that we don’t currently possess (Martell was leaning that way, but hadn’t really showed it consistently.
Giving up Blake Outlaw Raef and Frye would all be more disturbing personally than I think they’d be bad for the basketball team. Theoretically Felton would take over for Blake running the team, and Wallace would be a significant upgrade over Outlaw, but Frye’s loss would definitely be felt. Ajinca or Diogu simply aren’t at the Frye’s level coming off the bench. It’d probably mean that on occasion we’d run either a really big lineup with the centers out there or Wallace would come in and get a decent amount of his work at the backup 4 spot.
Channing would have to get a house across the Bay
but he could fit in well there as well as here. I would feel really bad for him if he had to go to Charlotte
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The very idea of sending Blake and Outlaw
to a Western competitor makes me queasy.
Plus, do we really need Mohammad and Ajinca?
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laughing
we would pick up nearly a full team on this one! :0) Love the way you think. Think big. Think Pritchslap.
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I checked out three Bobcats blogs mentioned by BDL, and none of them has a story about players to be moved
If there are talks, they are behind the curtains. If we are unlucky, Charlotte will just act as a facilitator in another deal.
There's been lotsa talk here
All pre-pre-season long there has been talk from Charlotte that they are looking to move Wallace. There hasn’t been a denial saying that that is a stupid idea, like the dumb rumors involving us moving Przybilla for someone like Sam Cassell last year.
Knowing how Larry Brown likes to shake up his roster after he takes over, that Michael Jordan isn’t a good/smart/capable/hardworking GM, and that their owner doesn’t even know his own players and is looking to sell the team, there COULD be something there.
I don’t think they should move him, but I ain’t gonna argue.
RLEC, what with his insurance paid salary, WOULD be attractive to them.
As would possibly Frye and Outlaw at the PF spot, to go with Okafor and play over the unfortunately hurt Sean May. I could see them liking them more than they should, to go along with BIG cash savings (which could be what they want more than anything).
I do not want Raymond Felton at ALL, because he is a bad point guard (and I prefer good point guards). They will likely try to get us to take him, if the other reports are accurate as well.
If we can get Wallace, not move any of LMA/Roy/Oden/Rudy and Joel, and do not have to take back anyone we don’t have to PLAY (I don’t mind having some bad contracts we just pay and don’t play, but if we got someone like Felton who would be a distraction if he doesn’t get to play, that could cause problems), I mean… how do we not do that deal.
Wallace can hit the 3, enough to have to cover. Everyone at Free Darko would watch every single game of ours and love us forever. We’d be the dunkingest team in all the land. Wallace is one of like 3 people in NBA history who have averaged 2 steals and 2 blocks for a season.
Here’s his career stats. You can see his 3 point shot has improved, but isn’t great:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/gerald_wallace/career_stats.html
He shot 221 threes, made a decent 32.1. Yeah, not great, but not so bad that it precludes us from getting him.
If we can, we gotta.
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by Mortimer on Nov 7, 2008 5:12 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
+ 1
His outside shooting is acceptable, and we don’t need more jump-shooters on this team anyway. What I can’t gauge is what Charlotte really wants to change (besides saving money and getting to the playoffs to rescue the shop). Last year they overpaid for Nazr Mohammed hoping to move Okafor to his more natural natural power forward spot, but that experiment didn’t really work. Then they drafted a center project and a point guard. Would they be interested in an upgrade over May enough to let Wallace go, or wouldn’t they rather want a true center (which we can’t offer unless we take a big risk)? Playing with the trade machine there are possibilities (see above), but if they want RLEC they probably would have to give us back either Carroll or Mohammed (making their center depth weaker) to make the numbers work. It’s pretty complicated, but KP/Penn could make it work if there is true interest on both sides :)
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Gerald Wallace...
doesn’t he get concussions regularly?
I think he’s had like 7 in his career, and it’s become a delicate medical issue.
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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 7, 2008 7:58 AM PST reply actions
Gee I don't know...
I didn’t much care for the last Wallace we had. Is this really a better model?
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I would hate to see this happen, but it's workable.
I would just hate to see Channing go, but he’d be a really nice fit in Golden State.
I like Wallace but
I wouldn’t like to see us give up any three players for him. I might do a three for two: they get Diogu, Blake, and Outlaw, and we get Wallace and Felton. My only problem with this is that I don’t like Felton as well as I like Blake – and I don’t know Felton that well. But Wallace is kick-ass. – Elgin.
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Why should the number of players matter?
Ultimately aren’t we trying to create a consolidation of roster talent? Thus moving multiple pieces for a single piece would seem to be the goal. The only concern I have in a 3 for 1 is that the most likely pieces to be moved are our backup PFs. If that’s the case then Martell should be pushed as the centerpiece so that Trout can be used as the backup SF/PF. Hardly ideal but the least crippling role wise IMO.
by invinoveritas on Nov 7, 2008 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
Roy and Rudy are redundant
Trade one of them for him and whatever contracts are needed to make it work.
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