What happened to this site?
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 1:11 PM PST
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PrintI have always come to Blazersedge for intelligent and well articulated Blazers talk. I always felt that even if someone disagreed with me, my opinion was respected and I was not vilified for having a different view.
Lately, I have seen some very disturbing things in the fanposts. Fanposts filled with hate for our own players! Everyone should be traded, and everyone should be fired! People writing outrageous claims just to get attention and more comments.
Fanposts are no longer filled with intelligent discussion that is well thought out and reasonable. They have turned into rant walls with no filter and uncontrolled emotions taking over instead of rationale thought. Personal attacks on players, coach's, and other commentators should not be acceptable here.
I know people at this site are passionate fans. And they love being able to voice their opinions and talk freely with other Blazer fans, I do too. And that is what makes this site so great. But in order to keep this site great, we must not let the power of anonymity take over and hold ourselves and other accountable for what they say.
So please, when you are writing fanposts, fanhsots, or even comments, lets keep the discourse civil, open-minded, and friendly. Take a few minutes before you make a bold claim and make sure that you have supporting evidence to back up your claim.
If you disagree with some of my opinions, I respect your thoughts, and would be willing to rationally discuss them in the comments.
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Right there with ya buddy.
Joined just a few months ago, it was pure optimism… the past few days its’ all but gone from what I can tell.
Well except for me that is…
You think I know the first thing about how hard your life has been, how you feel, who you are, because I read Oliver Twist? Does that encapsulate you? Personally... I don't give a $hit about all that, because you know what, I can't learn anything from you, I can't read in some fukin' book. Unless you want to talk about you, who you are. Then I'm fascinated. I'm in. But you don't want to do that do you sport? You're terrified of what you might say. Your move, chief.
This is my more "user friendly" sig -quote from Good Will Hunting (by mork) lol
I just think people, myself included, are hurting from a 1-3 record
we’ll get over it—just give us some time. And let’s try not to be mean in the meantime.
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
i agree
but at least we are not the Spurs
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 to that
over the hill and 1-3
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
Yeah, but 1-3 isn't THAT bad.
I think the negative reaction is a little disproportionate. Road losses to the Lakers, who are playing better basketball than anyone right now, a road loss to Utah who is on an absolute tear and a road loss to a healthy PHX team is nothing to be disappointed about. Don’t forget that this is without two starters!
There’s actually a reason to be optimistic at this point, in some ways. The game against the Lakers sucked in all aspects, the PHX game was played a little better but faded in the second half, and the Utah game the team looked good for three quarters and showed an excellent effort on the glass and a better defensive effort. Add to that the fact that Roy and Aldridge haven’t found their A games yet and I’d say things are not THAT bad.
ya
The laker loss wasn’t that bad…just wished we wouldn’t have looked so lost on the court. The Phx loss was expected as we were clearly outmatched. The Utah loss is a bit hard to stomach as we could have pulled it off.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
nah man
I think you are fair to be hurt from it. Look I knew it was going to be a rough opening season. I’m not disappointed with the losses…I’m disappointed that it seems like they are taking a step back. If they are completely outmatched…thats one thing. But for the most part the game yesterday was pretty competitive…we had a chance and we didnt capitalize. It’s not about the W and L columns…its how we are playing.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
you are correct
Im worried that we cant stop anybody from scoring inside on us, but we ourselves cant buy a bucket inside. The other thing that worries me is rebounding. Thrilla got 16 rebounds last night but LMA 2. Its like we are stuck in between to styles. We cant play the post-up game, and we cant run the break, so we settle for jumpers. Then Roy gets double teamed so LMA or Thrilla sets the pick then when Thrilla shootes to the hope he cant catch the ball. If LMA sets the pick he then shoots the 18 foot jumper. Its simple, we cant run or score inside so we have to shot jumpers. I like when we have the motion offense. One thing that got my blood boiling is that Roy complains to refs for not getting his all-star calls, but he does not play like an all-star. You have to earn your respect you cant try to get it by complaining. I blame last night loss on Roy and not Outlaw.
Roy did not play well
and he needs to know you aren’t going to get those allstar calls, especially at Utah
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Listen
he looked really sloppy last night and dint look to do much until the momentum already was on Utah side. If Roy wants to get all-star calls he cant let the other team impose their will on his team, and especially cant let the other team impose their will on him and make him complain to the refs. He got me so mad yesterday like never before.
doesnt that seem uncharacteristic of him
to whine at the refs? i cant remember anyone on the team whining at refs all that much last year…i wonder if he is just really frustrated.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
A thought I had
Is that the rest of the team is out of position. As such, it makes things more difficult for aldirdge and roy.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
Lmas lack of rebounds
Could it be due to the fact that…
1. LMA shoots outside jumpers outside of the first quarter usually? Doesn’t leave him in position to make rebounds.
2. I dont know who LMA was guarding all night but it seemed like Okur was shooting from outside a bit…I knew he did this when Pryz was guarding him to neutralize pryz’ rebounding…I did not notice if it was done with LMA guarding him too.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
AGreed
This is my issue too. I feel like we haven’t moved forward and we’ve even moved back and THAT is waht I’m frustrated with.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
It's true
A lot of people are uneasy about a few different situations that have developed on this team. But when it comes to blogging, I would much rather have people express whats on their minds than kept it in the shadows. I don’t think people are trying to make outrageous claims just to get attention. I do think that people have huge expectations for the Blazers this season… Maybe a little too huge. It’s still REALLY early in the season and when the L’s start to pile up people always look for somebody to blame.
I agree with you that some comments go a little too far but asking questions about the team and its struggles is healthy.
I think that is fair comment you make.
I would, however, caution about taking this too far. Last night, someone wrote on the game log, that people criticizing the play of the Blazers were “fairweather fans.” If we can’t comment both negative and positive about what we see with the Blazers, then this site just turns into Barrett’s blog.
I agree with the personal attacks against fellow posters. Though, I have to admit, I have rarely ever seen this happen.
So you do agree with personal attacks? I thought so, evil doer.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Jeez.
I’d say, you know what I mean’t, but obviously I can’t get away with that with you. What I mean’t to say is, I agree that personal attacks on other members of Blazersedge are unacceptable.
Is that better?
i think he missed the sarcasm font on that one
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
we put the "mania" in Blazermania
I’m not that surprised. The level of expectations, anxiety, excitement coming into this season was basically unprecedented.
That’s not an excuse for some of the behavior on here, but hey, why don’t you give us a break on this one?
Once we get halfway through the season and things start to settle down, I think people will return to normal.
Bottom line: We are actual people with actual emotions, feelings and flaws. We are not computers. Back off.
plus, since you're a dog (Charles Barkley McLovin)
Don’t you sometimes get excited and pee on the floor when Greg gets home from practice?
That doesn’t mean you’re a bad dog; you just got a little excited.
I think that people on here the last week or so are peeing on the carpet, figuratively speaking.
by Bust a Bucket on Nov 6, 2008 1:29 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
loll
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
Agreed
I think we just let a little bit leak. No need to punish the dog for that! It’s when I find a big pile on the couch (the ‘01-’02 campaign) that I get fired up. I, too, think the expectations coming into this season were WAY too high, and as Dave tried to warn us, tempers will flare. We just need a little perspective, like remembering that most embarassing run in the early part of this decade, to remind us that we such a bright future to look forward to and the brightest star in the GM sky to lead us into it.
haha great anology
i know its earlier in the season, and people’s expectations are shifting around.
But i just wanted to nip this in the but and not let it get out of control later down the road.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Good point
BTW, I was wondering how he can control the keyboard so well. Hardly any typos! What a good dog!
I did a No.2
There once was a Sea’ Cap’n Nate
Whom with Blazers did negotiate.
The pool, t’was so deep!
"That KP don’t sleep."
Gold medals and rings were his fate.
Well said
Yes with the increased amount of expectations that come witht his team, many here are willing to throw any player who has had some bad games under the proverbial bus and drive on without them.
This is one of the problems with such a young team like we have, these times are going to be frustrating.
People are overlooking things that fit with their view and are ignoring the things that do not fit with it.
People have bagged on Blake and TO but Blake has played Fisher, Nash and Parker who are all among the best PGs in the game.
They call for Travis’ head yet fail to see that your own beloved Rudy had the lowest +- last night, even eclipsing said whipping boy, TO, yet I hear not a peep from the masses to TRADE RUDY!!
We need to chill out and let this team figure out how to win and play as a team. we do not even have all of our pieces together yet and people are wanting to burn down this house we have spent so long to build, just because we put in some things wrong.
Give it time people and trust in out FO and more importantly in our team.
That is a sign of a true fan, not a bandwagon fan.
The season is here.
I think we need to be careful about using the term "bandwagon" fan around here
Fans are not rational. Fans are fanatics. We love our team and look at it through a very narrow window. All team’s fans do this. We may say some crazy stuff around here…but that’s just fans being fanatical…not because don’t care about the team. So. Please let’s not throw the “bandwagon” fan term around here. We all love this team.
I realize that but with all of this added excitement there are people here that would not otherwise
and are coming on only because of the expectation of having a winning team.
The fact that this blog has become more popular is both a blessing and a curse as it brings in people who love the blazers and have since 70 but it also brings in very opinionated people who only care about winning. and not the progresion and maturation that this team has gone through the past 4-5 years.
That in and of itself is the greaest story here and the best part is that the story is not yet fully written.
It’s like Yogi Berra said “the place has become so popular, nobody wants to go there anymore.”
The season is here.
I hear what you're saying...
I guess I just don’t feel the need to start separating people into “bandwagon” or “true” fans camp. Even if you want to, I think it’s pretty hard to discern the two. I have no clue who on this blog should be considered a bandwagon fan anyway. Do you? If so, who are they?
anyone who reads sports blogs
are probably not ‘bandwagon’ fans, and i agree i don’t really like that term either.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
no kidding
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Agreed
If people are here, it’s because they share a passion for the team. We all express it differently. I have some serious blazer fan friends, but they haven’t been paying attention because they’ve disliked teh team. they’re coming around, but it’ll take a while for them to have that love again because of all the damage. Plus… life happens.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
yes
I’m definitely frustrated with personal attacks and as a result I read very little of the fanposts anymore. It also bothers me that those making hte personal attacks against other bloggers were not booted despite multiple complaints. Those said attacks do nothing to make my bad mood better and the argument instead of debate also tends to be contagious.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
agreed
I wish we were able to moderate this site a little better to exclude those people. I remember the good ole days like the OP mentioned. At one point nearly everyone positively contributed to a discussion intelligently…nowadays not so much. We’ve always had bickering and disagreements here, but the things we disagreed on were different than they are today. The level of conversation has gone down a ton I think. I used to read every thread and every post…now I just scroll to the posters I respect the most.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
the best we can do
is flag inappropriate comments or let Ben or Dave know
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
nah
there are a lot of distasteful comments on here that aren’t worthy of a ban. there are a lot of people who made outrageous comments or statements who are still here today. i can’t really recall too many people who have been banned. also ben leaves the modding up to dave. i’m sure dave has better things to do than police this board. i’m sure dave trusts us enough to police ourselves. or atleast that should be the goal.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
The whole tone of this post...
reminds me of emo kids whining about how Radiohead used to be better before every kid in college bought a copy of Pablo Honey, and ruined the soul of the music.
Yes, its different, because you are complaining about substance, and not image, but the music is probably really the same. The truth is that you are mad more because your imagined ownership of the thing seems less exclusive now that the masses have shown up.
You could always make a blog, and restrict ownership to people that you approve of, or that meet your standards of tact, manners, conformity, or whatever else it is that you are looking for.
Yup
I agree completely with your post. To extend it further, my objection to the “negative” discourse that we’re discussing here isn’t the fact that people are criticizing players and coaches. Healthy debate is not only welcome in a community like this one, it’s fundamental.
What I don’t like is the negativity without reason or nuance — the “so-and-so sucks, we should trade him” commenting — that brings only acrimony. Saying, “I think so-and-so isn’t a fit for the following reasons, and/or we should trade him for ______ for x, y and z reasons” accomplishes the same goal without alienating anybody or bringing down the level of discussion.
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 6, 2008 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Did you flag those comments?
Unless you did it’s a coin flip whether I will have read them. A comment with 2 or more flags always gets looked at within a day or so. Please use the flagging system to bring questionable comments to our attention. That doesn’t mean they’ll be deleted. It does mean they’ll be seen.
—Dave
yup
I surely did. Others did as well, but the fella was still around two days later.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
The issue
was the personal attacks on both players and people who debated with the individual. Those attacks never stopped and phrasing was twisted in such a way that actual conversation wasn’t possible because it was all framed around an argument instead of a debate.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
I am looking at the last week
and I don’t see any comments with more than one flag that haven’t been deleted. If you remember where it was, e-mail me with the link.
—Dave
instead of looking at the comment
look at the poster dave….usually when theres a dialog back and forth i just flag 1 post the poster makes…it feels useless flagging every post that person has made.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
Do you think this will get flagged?
What if I called someone who flags a lot of posts a “flaggot?”
I tried to come up with other terms but that is the only one that works.
This space for rent, text me for information.
by tominhawaii on Nov 7, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with what you are saying if we were the media, Dave, or Ben...
But we are Joe the fan. So if we have a thought with no evidence, and we want to know what other fans feel about it than that’s cool. So long as you acknowledge that you could be completely off base. The fan that thinks they know the inside track for a fact, may need a little reply humbling, but with love.
Let’s be honest we don’t know jack. I don’t know of one fan that saw any impact Batum would have this year for the Blazers. I threw out a thought I was having and I got completely shut down, that’s great so long as we don’t tear that person down.
Let’s not take our opinions too seriously, and think that they dictate anything. In general people need to be cordial and respectful in everything they do and say. That doesn’t mean we can’t have fun with an issue or a disagreement by joking around. There’s a line, but sometimes people are just looking for something to get offended by. KP may peruse the site on occasion, but that doesn’t mean it changes a sliver of his own opinion and thoughts. Shoot I know 5 other people that view this site and only 1 of those people actually had read a fan post before. The rest of them just come on the site to see what Dave and Ben have to say.
But I completely agree that some people at times can be attacking in replys and people need to be respectful and play nice with the other kids.
actually
Prior to the streak last year, the level of conversation, and theories here were pretty sound. A lot of times posters would analyze something only to have nate or a member of the media back it up later. It was awesome. So I would disagree with you that we shouldn’t take opinions here too seriously. With all the new people joining the site its kind of drowning out all the old posters…kinda like how the world series of poker is becoming. With all the new blood the pros rarely do well in the big one anymore.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
I take offense to that
I’m not Joe the fan. I’m Damir the fan. I smack Joe the fan around like an ugly blowup doll.
Frankly I thought the posts had improved since season started
Remember the day after game 1? There were at least 10 posts talking about how our team is over, and Oden is over, and life is over in general. At least there are some reasons for opinions being thrown out at this point.
More of these posts could just mean that people are letting themselves loose after the long summer and pre-season speculation, which seemed to last longer than usual this year. Combine that with the type of losses we’ve had, where obvious deficiencies have been the causes so far. (As in letting opponents shoot over 50%, open threes on bad D rotations). I think these easily damper fan spirit. I mean, didn’t Mike Rice just say a few days ago that Outlaw’s future is cloudy? If we were 3-0 at that point, I don’t think that would have been brought up as quickly.
Kwame and Darko - Grizz '07-'08. The rebuilding is complete.
yes.
Winning cures everything. Once we get past this nasty November, things will simmer down, the Blazers will start winning, and posters will think we’re headed to the Finals.
It’s an emotional roller coaster. That’s what sports are all about, isn’t it?
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 6, 2008 2:05 PM PST reply actions
I refuse to apologize for criticizing a coach or player
If a player plays like garbage he deserves criticism. If you think something is a rant, why not just scroll past it? Move onto another post that has arguments and opinions up to your standards.
I am endlessly faithful to the Portland Trail Blazers, but it is not in my personality to float around gleefully deifying the actions of our players and/or coaching staff simply because I am a fan of the organization. It is nonsensical not to, as a fan, demand precision plays and good coaching decisions.
Mistakes happen but I think if we want to win a championship changes, significant ones, must be made.
No apologies.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
you said Travis had an IQ of 13
I don’t think that adds anything to the conversation but negativity
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
then dont read it.
and i do think Travis is dumb.
But used in the context it was, I intended for humor. You know, HA, HA.. HA…
Sophia
PS Your fanpost is a rant about… ranting…
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
c’mon now, you can’t make a defense with the “if you don’t like it then don’t read it” line. If thats the case then I’m gonna start posting a long line of crap and expect people who think its a bit much to just scroll right past it. I agree that the overall quality of the site has taken a hit but I don’t think we need a bunch of blazersedge elitists attacking some of the new guys aka “bandwagoners” you may have been the first (today) to rant about outlaw sucking (which he has) but theres been 3 posts since then about the same freaking subject. and yours is always going to get rec’d because theres gotta be at least 50 nerds on here that have cut and posted your myspace picture onto their desktops.
Afew years ago, a broadcaster once said Pryzbilla's name is "Polish for 'personal foul.'" Ouch.
that last line is embarrasing but I wrote my "report" last night
fresh off the loss, emotions running high. I wanted to capture that.
Ironically , there are now 3 posts about how ranting is annoying and decreases the quality of the blog.
Am I the only one that can see that?
Sophia
PS My response of “if you dont like dont read” is in regards to his citing something I said as offensive to him.
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
I gotta agree
I read everything on here. Well, almost everything, and you’re not one of the posters who I ignore straight off the bat for being you. It’s not easy to see what’s coming next a lot of the time. Saying “if you don’t like it don’t read it” is like me saying “if you don’t like smelling my farts, you should just stop breathing sometimes.” You never know when it’s coming and I’m sure it would be a lot more considerate if I held my fart in.
by einman77 on Nov 6, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
I fluffed up another rec for it myself
hehe
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Nov 7, 2008 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Let me clarify
A rant once in a while is not a bad thing and probably quite healthy. But when there are multiple rants by multiple people, and new fans come and see that and think that that is what fanposts are only for, thats when I have a problem.
I just want to help the site’s level of conversation, no intended offense to you or your views.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Is your post not a rant?
Are you not a ball of negativity in this fanpost? Could these fan’s perceptions be swayed by the multiple “bad ranting” posts?
Come on.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Personally
I don’t think his post is a rant, and I don’t think he’s being a “ball of negativity” in this post. CBM is making the argument (without “speaking or declaiming violently or extravagantly”, the definition of ranting) that people who feel as you do about the Blazers’ path right now can make their points without the levels of anger and animosity that have become more pervasive on this site.
Nothing more, nothing less.
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 6, 2008 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
i get where your coming from. i respect the both of you tho.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
most of your arguments
are pretty valid and you back it up pretty well…you are really observant and know this team really well. with the exception of a few posts i think most have been tasteful, its hard to keep it up however when others dumb down the level of conversation. so i guess what i’m saying is sometimes i feel like i have to stoop to their level as well…which isn’t necessarily right.
all i know is i wouldnt have had to stoop to this level last year, and i’d give you the benefit of the doubt as well.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Ok point taken
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Also I would like to think that people rec my posts b/c they like it and recommend it
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
by BlazerFan1 on Nov 6, 2008 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, that wasn't a shot at you
you come off as an intelligent poster, don’t act oblivious though. c’mon, thats a glamour shot, not an avatar (thats what they’re called right?)
Afew years ago, a broadcaster once said Pryzbilla's name is "Polish for 'personal foul.'" Ouch.
:-)
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"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Haha it keeps me clicking on her profile ;-)~
But then again I do that for a lot of posters around here…Mortimer, amlmart,…et. al
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
and especially timbo
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
Just to hunt down every time he replies to himself
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
......like this
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
so I can give him a bad time
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
love the desktop reference, so true.
No disrespect BlazerFan1 but some times I’m not sure if I’m on a Blazer fan site or a Sophia fan site. Just to clarify I’m not a jealous chica, just thought the comment was funny and some what accurate.
It is funny, it's not like they're not complimenting her appearance
By the way Pat Robertson can squat thrust about 5 tons so be careful mocking him.
But if I put a glamour shot up, you can tease me too! Difference is I wouldn’t have the groupies to keep my ego boosted up.
That's kinda messed up
Don’t take this wrong way, but you sound a little jealous.
It’s not like she is only one on this site with a picture of herself. Is she supposed to put up the absolute worst picture she can find of herself? Or would you prefer she use a turtle or panda bear avatar?
Come on.
agreed with TITLE
Regardless of what BF1 looks like you can’t deny her knowledge of this team and the game. She is probably more knowledgeable than my friends who I bought season tickets with. To say that she only gets noticed here bc of her looks is plain wrong and a cop out.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
oops...i meant agreed with JasonT
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
she's actually impressed me with her knowledge
that said, she does come out a little rough around the edges at times when she’s filled with passion. I also think she might get a little more wiggle room because she’s hot.
Still, she definitely adds value regardless of temperament or looks.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
nah man
i liked BF1s perspective before i even knew what she looked like. at one point i was pretty much anti all new people here since i’ve thought of them as bandwagoners…but there has been a bunch of new people who have proved me wrong.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
really?
okay, I apologize I was trying to be funny, not insulting.
Afew years ago, a broadcaster once said Pryzbilla's name is "Polish for 'personal foul.'" Ouch.
saw your reply after I left the comment.
At least you guys could kiss and make up. Oh, and since you’re kissing other people, I’m tearing all my Sophia pictures off the wall now.
I started some mess w/ Chrischa a couple months back
he didnt really deserve it. I can take criticism from him ,especially because this is almost identical to the argument we had back then.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
pretty much.
Afew years ago, a broadcaster once said Pryzbilla's name is "Polish for 'personal foul.'" Ouch.
while you're here einmann,
I am SO sorry I haven’t sent out my second payment for the dec. 30 game. I swear to you I am logging off and putting a check in an envelope right now dude. I feel like a bum!
Afew years ago, a broadcaster once said Pryzbilla's name is "Polish for 'personal foul.'" Ouch.
im just bothered that these guys are posting fanposts about how ranting about bad play
and hatin’ on Travis and Nate is degrading the value of the community. It is beyond me how they are attacking in a negative way posters whome they deem “negative” and wasting space and fanposts w/ “rants” when the negativity is coming from a fanpost such as this.
I mean the 3 posts about Nate and Travis sucking were fairly obvious, right? By the title? Dont click if yo udont wanna read those posts. Right?
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
How are you supposed to know whats in those posts if you dont read them
are you attempting to justify your “hate” at the expense of fans interested in quality blogging or obfuscate the issue by suggesting its our fault for having read it?
Nah im not
and how am i being “hateful” ? please substantiate. My post’s title was a bit circumspect but if it’s titled “Travis is GONE” or “Did Nate just lose the game for us” I think it’s fairly obvious what the post is going to be about.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Jeez, they won't let up on you, will they?
Even though I made a long-winded case to ease off of Nate for the in-game decisions, I wouldn’t think others would take it this seriously.
Good luck Sophia, seems like you’ll be defending yourself as long as you respond…
-Tyler
Oden and LaMarcus and Roy, oh my!
I am not defending just myself or my own posts
rather all posters who have the equal right to post about whatever they want just as those that post fanpost about negative posters have the right to do so.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
I have a right
to march through the streets throwing up a Nazi salute while yelling death to Jews. I understand the argument that you’re making, and to an extent I agree with it. But just because people have the right to post knee-jerk critiques of the Blazers bereft of real analysis doesn’t mean that it should be done.
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 6, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
We can say whatever we want, but that doesn’t mean we should. As a community and individuals of the community we have a responsibility to make it good. that means conversation and debate instead of arguments which are “yes i did” “no you didn’t” “you’re stupid” “well you’re stupid!”
We all have hot moments, but I come to this community to learn, to debate, to be challenged. “TRavis is stupid and a loser” doesn’t go into details as to why and how and so on. It’s negative and it’s an attack on travis. You then get a Knee jerk reaction from people who like Travis who say “no he isn’t! He rocks! He saves games!”
That conversation doesn’t go anywhere.
If you approach it from the angle of “I think Batum is a better fit. He plays solid defense, and doesn’t need to play with the ball to be effective. Contrasted with Travis, who needs the ball Batum is a better fit with the first unit that already has scorers.”
The Travis lover can then counter “But the first unit is stalling on offense. Pryz and Blake aren’t scorers and we NEED that third person out there. Travis is struggling because he hasn’t practiced with the first unit and he needs to figure out his place. We suffer on defense but Travis can more than make up for that once he gets his groove going again!”
The difference is that we can talk and the comments add to the greatness of the community. The attack comments help erode the greatness of this community.
That’s my personal opinion on it. We’ll all get hot and a little “grrr arg” at times, but it would be nice if that were the exception instead of the rule.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 7:25 PM PST up reply actions 9 recs
sweet!
my first rec! I think.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 7, 2008 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And I loved the analogy too...
Seemed very appropriate because that is one decision he goofed up on.
Oden and LaMarcus and Roy, oh my!
thank you
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Travis has a IQ of 13 and is dumb
unapologetic and unremorseful. Call it sarcasm, humor or whatever you want.
Thats your deal, I can live with it. Not trying to single you out, and shouldnt have come across that way. My bad.
I am not trying to censor anyones opinions
and I think healthy criticism of our players and coaches is warranted. The healthy part has been what has been missing i think.
I tried to make this fanpost a healthy criticism of fanposts and not negative, and i apologize if it has come off this way.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
can you understand where I am coming from though?
I mean there as many rant posts now as there are “dont rant” posts. I think the trolls are annoying but why cant people just ignore that ?
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
I do
but i haven’t seen many ’don’t rant’ posts besides this one.
It is easy to ignore, but i think the site will be better off if we try and uphold it to the standards that Dave has set
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
see this its also been recced...
Post Rockets Rant Thread
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
Am I being hostile?
most likely.
You have a valid point. We can disagree without being disagreable . Trolls have no power if they are ignored and rants are ok but could probably be put into a designated area like the junk drawer.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
lol i appreciate the honesty
You have a valid point. We can disagree without being disagreable
That is kind of the main point that i was trying to make and then it kind of evolved into internet etiquette, free speach, etc
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
I guess at this point I need clarification as to what Dave's rules are
because the set of rules I have read do not prohibit posting player critiques and voicing our frustration.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
The only rule that applies is #5
Player critiques and voicing frustration do not violate rule #5. In practice, though, voicing frustration often does violate it simply because the person is frustrated — and a frustrated person often expresses himself/herself in a way that violates rule #5 in one way or another.
Frustrated people tend to go over the top in their manner of expressing themselves. “Frustration” is simply a politically correct word for “angry”, usually. Angry people make mistakes.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
agreed
I don’t think travis is great…i would think you feel the same way…but theres a big difference between tasteful arguing and some of the knee jerk reaction posts from other people.
i thought we should have gotten rid of travis last year…not cuz of batum, but because i noticed the holes last year and the potential log jam this year. now everyone is jumping off the travis bandwagon cuz of his poor play it seems. when people are hating on travis for performance on offense…thats a kneejerk reaction. if you are hating on travis for his defensive shortcomings…then i think you followed his development closely.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
seems like the drunk at the party who insults his friend
and then slurs “I was just kidding.” Damage done.
uh terrible analogy bow. I thought we were 'friends" now you insult me? did you stop going to your AA meetings?
I think that I not only wrote something NON offensive, rather an honest and true depiction of my issues with the team.
If a reader doesn;t like my writing style or my personality they can peep the avatar and say to themselves “bf1 wrote it? nahh i’ll pass” and that is that. No harm to their delicate sensibilities and soft demeanor and I am just glad I have one less person that rants about the rants on an internet blog.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
OT thats really unfair
I agree with what you are saying, to a point, but your last remark troubles me greatly. I apologize if I misconstrued your angle and apologize if I misread your intentions.
I have 8 days clean and sober after a lifetime of abusing drugs and alcohol. I used to cope with severe panic and anxiety by smoking an eight of weed every couple of days and drinking a 12 pack a day. i just got back from a psychological eval which is likely to provide a dual diagnosis including bi-polar disorder. I was the one who came clean with my friends, family and bosses. If I was wrong about your comments I was wrong. But attacking me by saying something like that makes typing through tears seems to invalifdate the courage Ive shown to straighten out my life. Yea I made and make alot of bad choices but I hurting worse right this second and I doubt you realize the impact of your insensitive remarks. As it has been with others, Im the one forgiving you now.
OMG I thought when you said you were sober you were trying to say
you were “sober” from posting mean things to people.
I honestly apologize. I have no idea what to say. I am so sorry.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
I was serious about getting healthy
my disease manifests itself not just in self-abuse, but in that of others, including you, Tom, Mortimer and everyone else. I still come across in ways I do not intend, which is no excuse, Im just not always aware of what I say when I react before thinking.
Recovery is a precarious precipous which I lean over too often. Trust me please when I say I mean to get well. Now that Im not self-medicating, I find myself in tears when I dont even know why, but I know why the water works arent shutting off right this sec. My heart has always been in the right place for which Im certain, but the confusion that comes with this uncharted and unfamiliar territory frightens me to degrees not many people are aware of or grant me consideration towards.
I hurt the ones I love, so include yourself in that category. Lets be friends, thats as honest as I can be.
Thank you CBM as well. I love the Bedge, the Trail Blazers, this community as much as I love the be-bah-bones, who jumped in my lap to console me. I survive.
seriously I know your pain
and the struggle to recover. Growing up w/ addicts as parents, one of which is bipolar but both whom I love dearly I know the road is rough for you and everyone around you. I would never ever intentionally make a joke about AA if I knew you were in the most intense part of recovery or recovery at all for that matter. I cannot believe I was so incredibly insensitive to anyone else on here that could have read my comment and happens to go to AA ( me included) and was most likely offended . I apologize and to everyone .
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
now Im laughing ...
cuz the roller coaster goes down and up, sideways and inside out. Have you ever gone to Great America and got strapped into one of those rides that take you all around the park? Thats what its like only the ride doesnt end. I appreciate your feedback and believe your sincerity. Thank you. I dont intend to use the Bedge as my personal SOS club, just think good thoughts for me and everyone (INCLUDING TRAVIS!!!)
Go Trail Blazers!!!
ok you have motivated me to
think positively about Travis Outlaw.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
this is where you lose me a bit...i'm all positive for Trav
the person….trav the player even….just trav the style right now doesn’t seem to be working….and I’ve only watched THIS season…no fond memories of games won….hell, i’m not even a fan, just an observer…
Travis started out slow last year too
he caught stride in 7-10 games
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
thats fine
so why don’t we decrease his role until he shows he can get up to speed?
Nate is at fault mostly for playing Travis so much when he hasn’t deserved it.
Travis is at fault for doing so little in the off season.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
he plays pretty well
hes done some cutting..some passing…some nice shots…it’s just that all sychrnicity exits…
i dont notice
the cutting or the nice shots…but i do notice improvements in passing, confidence in 3, improved catch and shoot ability, and sometimes more effort on man on man d. travis will earn the respect of hardcore fans again…but even at his best i still dont think his skill set is that important to the team.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
well..i guess the nice ones
are the ones that fall and seem reasonable in the offensive set…
i agree with mis match skill set
Godspeed on your journey, bow4meow
For the record, I have never found your posts to be overly abusive or hurtful.
Going out in the field tomorrow
I will put something in my pack for you,see you tomorrow,same batime,same bat channel
by southern oregon on Nov 6, 2008 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
bow4meow, i echo what Corvid said....you're one of the awesomer peeps on the Bedge
if you ever need anything, just give a shout
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
stop making me cry you guys
tears of joy are ok I guess… I put my email up in my profile so if anybody wants to send encouragement thats how I’d prefer it so we can get back to Bedgin on the PTB…
I saw a funny Tshirt today that said Rehab is for Quitters…. lol
Not sure if anyone is reading this still
But I never took anything you did or said as mean spirited, or even meant to offend, so even though you apologize to me there is nothing to forgive!
I count you as a good friend here, Bow4Meow, and whenever I said that you hated me I hope you know it was just jokin’. I never really thought that!
I wish you the best in recovery, and I’ll be here if ya need anything.
GO BLAZERS.
Mortimer
thats good to know
I did sorta pick on you at times, and even if it was in jest, I wasn’t sure if you were offended or not. Just covering my bases and so far so good…
as to anything I need, season tickets would be nice
Keep your head up
“You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You must do the thing which you think you cannot do.”
-Eleanor Roosevelt
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
and one more thing
I am intimatly familiar w/ both bipolar disorder and drug/alcohol addiction. You will be able to overcome both diseases just stay strong.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
not sure what your experiences are,
but I’ve had some friends who are BP and D/A addictions, and let me say it’s a very very very tough road to travel. My prayers are with anyone who must walk that path.
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
I blame the start of the season
During the off season I think you’ll get more considered opinions because it’s hard to get too worked up when they’re not even playing. But during the season the passions and humors are inflamed and can affect even the most reasonable fan.
Also, like the team, it takes a little time after the start of season for this community’s social mores to gel and get the rookies up to speed on what the BE expectations are.
Thanks for the post
Spanish Main: The point of departure for enormous wealth in the form of gold, silver, gems, spices, hardwoods, hides, alley-oops, assists and three pointers.
agreed
I hope the team starts playing better and thus the level of discourse get better too.
Hopefully this fanpost will help some of the new people
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
the team started off badly last year
but the discourse was still civil, for the most part. You did have those darn “fire nate” posts which drove me nuts though.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
Agree
I am amazed at how many people know Exactly what this team needs to do after only 4 games! The amount of BBall experts on this site boggles the mind!
If you have nothing constructive to say about someone, I prefer that you say nothing at all.
"If Jumping to conclusions, Kicking others when they do not do well and Launching into senseless tirades were Olympic Events, some people around here would be Medal Contenders". Me
As follows:
1. POINT GUARD
2. POWER FORWARD THAT CAN REBOUND AND SCORE IN THE PAINT
3. ABILITY TO RUN THE FAST BREAK
These things are nothing new…
FREE SERGIO -- Trade Him or Cut Him NOW!!!
you forgot the small forward
Also, fundamental knowledge on spacing and ability to rotate cleanly on defense.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
We have two SF's !
3M when he gets back and Batum as he
continues to improve and mature !
It's GO time !
ah
but those are consistent gripe areas :)
We still have potential, but not actual as of yet. Not proven, as of yet.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
I believe Marty + Nic covers the 3 slot... I even think we've got the PG on the bench, he'll be coming along soon... The Tough 4 is the pesky ongoing deficiency...
FREE SERGIO -- Trade Him or Cut Him NOW!!!
I have noticed that some things you can say to your friends in person
Can be quite funny cause they know you dont"mean" it can look mean in print but then my friends are are so crass and tasteless its maybe not the best standard.Having said that mean is not cool.
look people can make legitimate complaints here
is the team playing defense (no, backed by opponents field goal percentage) should nate have started 88 (yes, he’s already flip flopped on that), has Travis sucked SO FAR (yes, but most people realize its a long season), could broy and lma do more for the team as leaders (of course, and the beat writers from the oregonian have already written legit articles on this).
Afew years ago, a broadcaster once said Pryzbilla's name is "Polish for 'personal foul.'" Ouch.
these are not fanatical ideas
or people assuming they’re smarter than the coach.
Afew years ago, a broadcaster once said Pryzbilla's name is "Polish for 'personal foul.'" Ouch.
I don't think
that anybody, not CBM and not those posting in his support, is arguing that people can’t make legitimate complaints. I look at the Blazers in an unabashedly positive light, and reading contrarian opinions helps balance my perspective; indeed, I welcome them. In fact, you’re one of the posters whose thoughts I always take seriously when I see them, so it’s not a matter of “my side, your side” where I only want to chug the Kool-Aid.
My objection is to something like “Travis has sucked so far”. How has Travis sucked so far? What’s his plus-minus, his shooting percentage, what particularly egregious plays has he made? It’s not that I say, “Travis has been awesome! You shut your mouth chrischa!” It’s that I want something to back up your opinion, so that I can evaluate it on its merits and decide, “hey, you know what? Chrischa was right, Travis has sucked thus far.” It’s that second step that is missing in a lot of critiques that have been posted lately. Not talking about you specifically, mind you, just in general.
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 6, 2008 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
When someone posts something vague or unfounded...
It’s very easy to ask that poster a follow up question for more specifics. It really doesn’t seem that hard.
1-3 is no big deal
We are playing the toughest first 5 games in NBA history. All 5 teams won 54 games or more last year. Also, for a little perspective, if you compared basketball to the NFL, 1 game in football is equal to 5 games in basketball. That to me means it’s way to early to make judgments. I’d give it at least 2 months before I worry too much or get too excited.
2 months? lets not get crazy now haha
I think if we only win 1/3rd of our games or win 2/3 of our games after 2 months it would register with me.
Afew years ago, a broadcaster once said Pryzbilla's name is "Polish for 'personal foul.'" Ouch.
normally it might for me, too...
but with the first 1/4 of the season being so ridiculously tough, this year is different.
I mean, 17 of the first 24 games on the road?
That’s Tenacious Scheduling.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 6, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
and missing 2 of our starters
that is some serious rotten luck
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
it sounds like we
need to play some Tenacious D then
please feel free to unrec this awful comment
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
lol
Our ‘Wonder Boy’ needs to get healthy so he can help with that D.
un-rec me too
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
This is why
I now pretty much only read the recced fanposts. Good thing this one got recced because I couldn’t agree more!
Things happen for a reason they say, but I say there's a reason things happen.
I agree
the only problem with this is that if everyone rational only reads the recced fanposts, then who is there to rec them?
"For the past two seasons it's been like, 'They're young, they're going to need some time,"' Roy said. "It doesn't feel like that this season."
by joelor on Nov 6, 2008 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
lol don’t worry fellow Bedgers….I wade through 99% of them so that the CREAM may rise to the top for you to scoop off
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
and to answer your question
if everyone rational only reads the recced fanposts, then who is there to rec them?
the only people left would be irrational…………………………
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
which means only the irrational rants rise to the top
thus the rational would become oblvious to the truly rational posts….thus they would become so encompassed in irrational posts, that they themselves would become irrational.
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
Well then I'll only read fanshots
and be the most rational poster OF ALL!!
"For the past two seasons it's been like, 'They're young, they're going to need some time,"' Roy said. "It doesn't feel like that this season."
I agree with the post.
I have succumb to reading strictly Dave & Ben’s posts and comments because there are so many fanposts that just make you feel dumber after reading them.
#5
You could probably get very similar information from the Oregonian.
No offense to Dave or Ben, because I check the site several times a day, and theirs are the first posts I read just because they are often the least biased and the most informative.
That being said, when people say stuff like… “I only read dave and ben’s posts…,” or “I only read the comments from people I know…” I seriously have to wonder what the point is. Everyone has a filter when they read the comments, but it seems like such an insult to the people (like me) who aren’t in the b-edge clique. if you don’t read the comments, don’t complain about the comments. similarly, if you don’t like the comment, don’t read the comment.
Good comments
There’s a difference between criticism of players/coaches/front office personnel and some of the vitriol that I’ve seen in the last couple of weeks. There’s no way that BlazersEdge can or should try to eliminate the former, but the latter? I either ignore it or laugh it off.
I never want to be so much of a homer that I’m blinded to player deficiencies, coaching mistakes, etc. But if I perceive the post to just be emotional venting, I pass it by.
agree
Now that the season has started emotion is coming out. I know you wouldn’t find the passion we have as Blazer fans anywhere else in the league. It’s the strong emotion that makes Rip City so great!!
by BrokeButStoked on Nov 6, 2008 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
i love it too!
being able to walk down the street and high five a random person in blazer gear is awesome!
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
agree
I have stopped reading fanposts for the most part due to the lowered content. I have just been reading Dave and Ben’s stuff and not really commenting as the feedback has not been that interesting lately.
Maybe we could turn this on the positive by suggesting how to change things:
Put the site conversation rules somewhere very noticeable rather than at the bottom with the links
Have one of those silly boxes pop up on the sign up with the site rules that you have to check that you have read before signing up. This will probably only be read by a few new people, but they might get it (BE) right off the bat.
24 hrs between sign up and comment like Blog a Bull
Forward all silly posts to Mortimer and have him come up with an articulate, funny, and reasoned post that makes the OP realize that more thought needs to put into future post.
Stop commenting on redundant and uninteresting fan posts.
Please add to this list so we can keep BE a great place to go for high level basketball talk.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
i love the Mortimer bit! lol
also maybe SBN could incorporate the new thing Youtube comments have: have a button so that when you click on it, it reads outloud your comment back to you. Something tells me Mortimer or Tominhawaii would have too much fun with that
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
I like the read back idea
but whose voice would they use to read it back?
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
James Earl Jones! that would be sweet
actually it just uses the computer voice. go to youtube and write “go blazers” in the comment box and try it out
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
that would be good
for some reason I am thinking any of the characters from Good Times or the on the street interviewees that Democracy Now! caught up to after the election, No matter i you are right, left, or 3rd party leaning, these comments are hilarious.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I think we need a unrec button.
and if someone gets 25 unrec’s, the post is POOF gone.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 6, 2008 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
good idea
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
totally agree
but you shouldn’t be un rec’ing people b/c you disagree with them
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
which is why it will never happen.
I don’t mind that people have differing opinions, just that they don’t substantiate their opinions.
Hearing a different view can actually impact my view.
It’s the endless drivelling of how so-and-so-sucks-and-needs-to-be-traded or how Nate-cost-us-another-sure-win that just make me want to puke. The fact that this ranting all happens based on such few games against elite competition mostly on the road pushes me over the top.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 6, 2008 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
I like this idea too
but perhaps you could just have a rating like NetFlix and then if someone has a whack post we would be able to easily tell and give it a pass.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
yes...community modding is needed.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
I dont see how any of this
relates to being PC. I think the intent of all this is to make BE a highly readable site.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
agreed the PC thing has all kindsa weird connoctations..
its a fact of life that some fans are informed and some are not….some have been watching since ’70 and some are 11 year olds with computers and everything in between
its either open content …or not…
I am all for open content
but I think there are simple solutions to be able to filter content without outright disallowing it or having some poor schlub constantly monitor the site. There is definitely ways to do it and that is what I was hoping to hear peoples voices on. I am not trying to berate anyone for not being a super fan or having the misfortune of being young, but I want the best content to be moved to the top of the heap while the garbage falls to the bottom. Right now I dont think BE has an effective way of doing this and I am hoping we can come up with something before I read another “I have an idea on how to get Battier in Portland”
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
ah heck no
we have Batum. We should be going after chris paul!!! Let’s trade outlaw and RLEC for him!
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
for example
I would give this comment 5 stars….(wait for it)…NOT!
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Frankly...
I’m just happy to be here.
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
Hey!
I’m just happy to see you posting again. Where have you been?
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 6, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Hurricane recovery...
I’ve been working 12+ hours a day, seven days a week. It’s slowing down a bit now. I’m only working 11 hours a day.
I did get to see the Celtics beat the Rockets the other night. Am I the only basketball fan in America who is “underwhelmed” by Yao Ming?
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
when he missed that dunk
i almost spit out my drink laughing. His body wasn’t made to play 82 games a year, but he still is a really good player
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 6, 2008 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
In New Orleans?
If so, I’m giving you a huge virtual hug right now, man. My girlfriend’s from the Big Easy, so it’s a city near and dear to my heart, and people just don’t realize what a mess it still is down there.
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 6, 2008 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
So why so much hurricane recovery work for ya?
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 6, 2008 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
I'm in Orange, Texas now...
Most of the businesses down here were completely under water. The work I do is in support of getting the largest of those businesses up and running again. Many won’t be operational until April or later next year.
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
Very cool
The whole Gulf Coast got slammed by Katrina…it’s a dang good thing that people like you are still working on its behalf and recovery. Kudos.
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 6, 2008 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
I suppose...
I’m actually talking about Hurricane Ike, though.
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
are you working with the Red Cross?
One of my friends just got back a week ago from Galveston, TX. He was in charge of a warehouse where they were doling out supplies.
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
What happened to this site!?! What happened to you people?
What happened here? I used to come here for all kinds of things,
I know, I thought I was coming to getadate.com
Dang you internet wormholes!
But Seriously, Sophia, I don’t mind you being critical of my blazers, just do it after they are traded, or during the summer.
This is the fifth game of the season.
Let’s Panic!
P.S. Anyone want to meet at McFaddens?
i probably won’t make it but that shouldn’t stop ya’ll
See you at the game! Oh that’s right, I remember why I come here now!
To talk BLAZER stuff!
I come here to meet chicks...
by BlazermaniacAndy on Nov 6, 2008 4:34 PM PST reply actions
dammit
i totally would have if there was some warning…its a bit too late for me now. Next game?
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone remember a couple months back...
that new poster joined, he was a young kid, maybe 13?
I wonder if he still comes, or if his folks saw all the flamin’ and made him stop coming.
I’m kidding of course, but seriously…
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 6, 2008 4:50 PM PST reply actions
remind me
what did he talk about? what was his screen name roughly?
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
something about ananimal....or something
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
-1 for botched attempt at humor
that should be an animal, with a space
Marc Gasol´s formula.
Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
--translated by Amlmart
lol +1 brings you back to neutral
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
his screen name...
you know, it might be BLAZERS#52… if not, I think it was like that.
I just remember his post and I think he got pushed around a little, then everyone found out he was 12 and felt all bad, then he suddenly had 60 comments and he was the king for the week.
It was in the summer, I’m pretty sure of that.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 6, 2008 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
ya i remember that name.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
Got lucky...
like winning Powerball? Or got lucky like hah-hah-hah-HAH (please do your best to say this in a French accent)?
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 6, 2008 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
do you mean onomatopoeias?
I ask not to correct you, only because I’m unfamiliar with your word and I always like to look up words I’m unfamiliar with.
I haven’t heard that word since elementary school.
+1, for dropping it in the real world (if the web is considered the real world, that is… what is the real world anyway? who are we? what are we? are we even real?)
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 6, 2008 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Nice look up
I’m sure I’m full of errors, this Japanese computer isn’t highlighting my mistakes in English.
k...I just laid a big fat bomb on the fan shots....
so you tell me if it’s no good or what not…
I imagine that it’ll get little to no comments…
then again…it’s not a popular idea…
but you can’t say that anyone posting anything but obvious jabs isn’t faithful to the cause, just might have a funny way of getting answers. or the relief they need for the crap thoughts they may have.
I dig/dug the thought that was once demonstrated wayyyyyy back when, but we were a diffrent team then, and the conversation was more about what could be, and right now, we’re at that point….
it’s either put up or shut up time for the team and potential has no place in the now.
the truth may sting if it isn’t delivered by the right person. alot of us are the wrong people. but it’s the truth…
and it’s still realllllllly early to be droping serious eggs like I did….but maybe…just maybe, enough of our complaints and our boy may go hulkish on us (oden).
then again, if he’s as sensative to what we think….our derogitory hibber jibber may drive him to do something rash like…demand to get traded… ya never know what the drama of sports will bring. I love it either way the wind blows…
it’s all good in my book. (but thinking about it….this ain’t my book so, have at my thoughts as you will…but thems my thoughts on the subject)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
It's already been said, and I'm going to say it again
The fact is, whether or not stuff comes across as positive or negative, the fact of the matter is that people “care” about the Blazers. If we didn’t care, we’d be doing something else other than writing a fanpost for an hour. Just ask my wife. :)
Criticism is good, if it can be backed up with some fact and detail. Otherwise, people are just spewing out slander.
Can I buy you a fish sandwich?
Yep.
I’ve always hated trade talk during the season … although I know it is impossible to avoid, and probably a really big part of putting together a winning team.
At the very least, there should be respect for our guys.
I tend to love ’em.
As for other posters, well, there’s some folks you like and others you don’t … but in the end, we all gotta live together. Thanks for brining it up CBM.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k
This thread is EPIC!
I feel like its a therapy session. Player criticism is warranted on a site like this, granted it can get overdone, but that is what you expect when you have SO many opinionated people.
The only thread I thought was overkill was the Outlaw is Gone one. It was unneeded. Sophias was one end of the spectrum, and mine was the other, and I think it’s that kind of healthy balance that keeps topics fresh and discussable.
Let’s face it, Travis Outlaw is the hottest topic on this site right now, no way around it. Next week it will probably be something else. There will always be rants, and there will always be repetition, as long as we are respectful of each other, threads like this will be unneeded.
Now… Can’t we all just… Get along?
if i started a beer company and sold one beer for every time he(timbo) replied to himself, i'd be a millionaire, check that, a billionaire. - prezofdeath
by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 6, 2008 9:28 PM PST reply actions
Yeah some of the comments on the site have gone overboard, but that’s to be expected with:
1. The hype over the summer (Oden’s return, Rudy’s Olympic performance, another Pritchslap draft, etc.);
2. The Blazers promoting this site;
3. SB Nation coming together (helps cross-pollenization);
4. 1-3 creating tons of newbies;
5. Massive frustration caused by unrealistic expectations.
It’ll calm down… probably not until they get through this initial buzzsaw part of the schedule though.
MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)
by The Cactus Leaguer on Nov 6, 2008 10:22 PM PST reply actions
Hug?
if i started a beer company and sold one beer for every time he(timbo) replied to himself, i'd be a millionaire, check that, a billionaire. - prezofdeath
by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 6, 2008 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
I don't mind people voicing their opinions
In fact, because the opinions on this site have classically been some of the most well supported and well spoken, that I continue to come to this site. It’s the snarkiness I could deal without. When the team isn’t doing well, it’s like salt in the wounds. Worse, I’d say, than getting razzed by fans of other teams (which happens daily. I live in Laker land), because it’s coming from the people that are supposed to be on your side, so to speak.
+1
if i started a beer company and sold one beer for every time he(timbo) replied to himself, i'd be a millionaire, check that, a billionaire. - prezofdeath
by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 7, 2008 12:27 AM PST reply actions
dang it, meant as reply to zaruga.
if i started a beer company and sold one beer for every time he(timbo) replied to himself, i'd be a millionaire, check that, a billionaire. - prezofdeath
by Outlaw is Rejector on Nov 7, 2008 12:27 AM PST up reply actions
This thread is full of failure
-1
when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.
This site is perfect as is
Let people speak freely without constraints and judgment. Worry about yourself and not others, lead by example.
"Thanks for coming to the game." - Kevin Pritchard
We need to trade Batum while his trade value is high
He would go great in a package with Sergio for a savvy vet with lots of court smarts.
I hear Marbury might be available...
……………………………… He’s certainly savvy, he’s figured out how to opt out of scrimmaging with the team since he’s not playing yet they’re still giving him CTC treatment. That’s the sort of real-world practical experience that you just can’t coach…
"I’m glad Sergio played well in pre-season, but he should be getting killed for whining. He ain’t that important to the country of Spain, let alone the Trail Blazers." --Mortimer Pritchard
k I think I got it.
what happened. DAVE DID.
how did it happen? well…he sheltered this site from unpopular opinion, then noticed that the shelteredness needed to be unsheltered…so he let some of the unpopular opinion guy’s back in…and it’s messing with “somes” nice little sense of security..or…nievitiy…one of the two…or both…who knows…
all that happened is there are more opinions that do not agree…that’s all…
and a little watered down thought processes with some of those opinions.
sure gramaticly correct and what not is cool but that isn’t what the everyday run of the mill fan does…
we’re not as smart as some of the “originals” but our passion rivals the most passionate fans.
like I said up there somewhere…it’s all good.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
your postings have gotten my respect lately
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
You think this is bad here at Blazersedge?
Here’s a taste of the comment section following Quick’s article on Sergio.
Someone who calls himself Pacificblue (he/she refers to McMillian as "McClueless"):
Doubtlaw…dude sucks…hes the NBA’s “Black hole”…takes the ball and shoots whenever its good for him to do so…even when hes out in left field…BRoy has even been in competition mode…as mentioned above his “I” mentality…hes threatened by Rudy..and doesnt like it..hes even threatened by Batum…I remember this last game where Batum was totally wide open..and BRoy? he drives and gets a brick…even though Batum was there to take pressure off him..a Team Player? Im starting to think “I” in his name as well…even though he “can” be a good player…hes starting to show selfish ways…
Pdx Punk:
The only posts worth reading are by pacificblue. Everything pacificblue has to say is correct. I will add one thing and that is Roy’s jealousy of Rudy is getting to be ridiculous. Is this the guy who garners so much respect from coaches and fans for his humbleness? He is a big baby and is no good at hiding his feelings. Roy refuses to pass to Rudy when he is wide open, even calling for the ball at times. Roy just needs to acccept the fact that Rudy is better than him. Seriously just watch Roy only pass the ball to Outlaw and Aldridge, it makes me sick that this guy is the so called “leader” of this team.
Pacificblue responds:
Punk…I think everyone is seeing that…Roy is passing or not passing to those that pose a “threat:” to him
It was obvious in the game against Houston…he passed to those that were only in the first unit…and by-passed Batum..Rudy…etc…he feels threatend by Rudy..yeah ..well we need the best to come out and show that they care for this team..BRoy has..again been threatened..its not “his” team..sorry BRoy..your good..but you have to totally work up to your “own” level..and be a real “leader”..so far…its showing that you are not..a ball hog wanna be..its starting to show…
It could be a lot worse folks. We should consider ourselves lucky.
hmm
his points are debatable…but his negativity just takes away his credibility. travis may not be great…but he does not suck. i’m undecided about roy if he feels rudy is invading his territory or if they just dont have the chemistry yet.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 8, 2008 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
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