Blazer VS Jazz - Live Report
So I've had some time to cool off and I'm still not cool, but I'm in a better mood. I'll give you the break down of my night. it wasn't just the Blazers that got me hot, in the bad "I don't really need a shower unfortunately" meaning of the word. Naw, there were a few other things.
The Fans
Blazer fans that is. There were a number at the game and quite a few in one section. You could hear them cheering every once and a while, but I couldn't see them. I'm guessing they were on the level right above me to my right.
Saw KP. He was watching the game from the kitty corner to the Blazers. Thought about saying hi to him again, but decided not to bug him.
There was a blazer fan with his daughter next to me, so we chatted a little. We were 10 seats away so yelling became problematic. when more people arrived.
Jazz fans were quiet for most of the game until the mascot incident that I talk about below. The seats were half full until after halftime. this is, apparently, a strange Utah thing. The fans aren't any louder than the blazer fans, but the building conducts that noise like crazy! I also believe that some canned sound is used because when I look around at people clapping, i don't see enough to justify the noise. Possibly there are microphones to enhance it? Blazer fans were FAR noiser on opening night, but that noise isn't amplified like the jazz fans are in their building.
The Cheerleaders
First off, I know you're all waiting for reports on these horrible cheerleaders. You'll be happy to know that they've improved. The god awful sparkly outfit short dress thing with white coyboy boots was only used once and then they went to these sexier ref shirts and short black mini-skirts. Their dancing was still out of sync, but they managed a few backflips and two of the girls actually managed to stay in sync together while back flipping!!! I'll definitely take the beauty of portland cheerleaders though and their actual skill. Also, the cheerleaders were more diversified so this leads me to believe that maybe the preseason girls were also a little bit in the tryout stage as they were ALL blonde? Still 95% ugly though.
The Mascot
This subject has me hot. I'll just run down what I saw, but I seriously hope the guy sues and wins. The wookie/teenwolf (or bear as my girlfriend finally realized last night despite the fact I'd already told her) was going down the aisle and shooting people with silly string. All was fine and dandy until he found a blazer fan and shot it all over him and in his beer cup. This beer is about $8-$9 a cup. It's also weak beer 2% or so beer. ( I don't drink, so I don't actually know the strength, but I know people complain like crazy about the beer water.)
The fan didn't take too kindly to the ruinage of his lovely weak beverage. He was irate and acted out of helpless anger... because really the only other option is to chalk up that $8 as a loss or drinkng with all the silly string. The blazer fan took his cup and DUMPED it over the Mascot. This of course got the Jazz fans MAJORLY worked up. The security guards came along and escorted him out. I was torn between it being freaking funny, the unjustness of this out of control mascot doing something that would OBVIOUSLY tick off someone, and the realization that the fan did not act appropriatly.
The guards let the guy back in and the crowd booed. I think the guy realized that he hadn't been cool and just waved. Fine and dandy... except that the Mascot goes out and grabs a bucket of... I assume water. He runs up the stairs and the security guards stop him. I figure this is funny and this is where it should end. Except it isn't. He leaps around the security guard and dumps the entire bucket over him and knocks him back against the seat and then runs off. The Jazz fans roar in approval. The fan is then booted from the Arena by the security guards.
While the blazer fan obviously lost his cool, it's up to the representatives of the organization to maintain their cool and be professional. I am beyond ticked at the unprofessionalism shown last night. This is also not an abnormal thing. Talking to a jazz fan who was appologizing to me, she said that the string has been used to incite other non-jazz fans as well, so the actions were purposeful. Being told this just [s] made me love utah all the more [/s].
I seriously hope the guy can sue or something. I'm sure there's assault or battery in there somewhere... of course that opens him up to a counter suit unless the Jazz handle it quietly for PR reasons. Damn i hate the Jazz. I haven't felt such raw emotion towards a team or organization or FANS since karl Malone took out Brian Grants teeth with his wild purposeful elbows.
The Blazers
Watching this game, the blazers NEVER felt like they were in control. Even with a ten point lead, I was positive the blazers would lose this, and here's why.
The Blazers couldn't run the fast break. There were a few opportunities which ended with Aldridge not being prepared and bobbling the ball, or the person with the ball running up court, but NO ONE following. This wasn't a "we need to rebound to run". The Blazers WERE running it, and failing miserably. No one was sprinting or TRYING as a team to score. People would get the ball and go "oh shoot! what do i do???"
I saw multiple breakdowns of the players not knowing where to move or what to do when in position. I started watching the game a lot AWAY from the ball and I started to realize something. Nate runs basic plays because these guys don't seem to know how to even do that! Players weren't moving without the ball, or when they did, they simply rotated sides. I watched the Jazz move into the post and then around to the three point line. The Blazers were being run ragged attempting to catchup and it seriously freed some guys up with that ragged player was finally hit by a screen.
I saw a team that attacked the post in the first quarter and then settled for jump shots the entire rest of the game... except for Roy.
Also... the blazers NEED TO DUNK!!! What's with all the freaking layins? If our players went up with more power, the ball would go in! I saw a pass to aldridge and he did this little lady like layin... except he missed. If he'd gone harder he could have dunked and it WOULD have gone in. Watching these blazers, I can understand why Nate wants Bayless to work. We need that dunking and athleticsm because the other blazers don't display it.
Now, some things I saw that I did like is that the Blazers and Jazz were both physical and the blazers did some hard fouls with intent. they were SLOPPY about it, but they were trying.
Okur seriously looks like a lady out there. man... watching that guy and his hand gestures away from the ball is a complete gas! I started imitating him in the stands and cracking my girlfriend up. when the Jazz come to town, seriously... check this guy out. he's so danty!
The Players
I can't watch all the players all the time, so I'll report on the ones I noticed.
Batum did some nice things. He also did some dumb things. Mostly I thought he did a great job. His mistakes were rookie mistakes and with a few games, I'm sure he'd shake them off. His defence was nice and his hustle was above everyone but Rudy.
Rudy needs to be fed the ball more. I still think he's watching and waiting, but this guy is better than how he's being used. This is a man that can take over games, and for some reason, calls aren't being made for him. He needs the ball in his hands more, like roy. He can create for others as well as himself. His experience with Spain is something this team should be harvesting and utilizing.
Aldridge reverted back to jump shots. Chicago stated they needed a strong post presence and that Aldridge didn't have it. They're right. Aldridge doesn't have it. Last year he was shown stats of how much better he does in the post, and yet he's still settling for jump shots. Carlos Boozer isn't the greatest person for Aldridge to play against, but if he moves and warps his body, he could take the guy! Aldridge needs to be in the post and figure out HOW to use his finesse to dominate down there. Frankly, he should be slapped everytime he takes a jumper until he figures out the post. I'll take losses in the short term, because that means we'll dominate in the long term.
Roy... wow... he made some nice moves to the basket, but he also had a LOT of turnovers. I almost get the feeling that Roy felt he'd arrived and so he thought it would be easy and now he's waking up and realizing that he needs to work just as hard as he did last year. That is the "vibe" I have. Obviously I'm not in his head, so I don't know if it's true or not.
Blake was left open a lot, and he made the Jazz pay by hitting a ton of three pointers. I liked what he was doing out there.
I didn't notice Sergio. Pryz was Pryz. Frye hit a couple of shots AND attacked the post a few times. I liked it. I didn't notice Outlaw other than he looks very atheltic with his JUMPERS. (another man that needs to attack the basket. I also like a hard foul I saw him take that the blazers actually got away with.
The Refs
I noticed, when skimming the posts, that a lot of frustration was directed towards the Refs. While I was AMAZED a kickball wasn't called, the other calls looked good from where I was sitting and the ones that weren't seemed about equal to the miscalls against the Jazz. While the calls may not have been good, in person they looked good, for the most part and I can't fault the Refs with them at all. Actually, the Jazz fans were ticked that roy wasn't called for travels on his moves to the basket and they were upset at a few other non-calls. I believe the game was pretty even.
Overall impression
I attended the Spurs game and was pretty happy. Looking back, I realize that the win blinded me to some flaws. Those flaws were not as bad as tonight against the Jazz, but they were still there.
The Blazer players need to be given playbooks and start learning how to run them. They ALL seem to need a basic education on what the heck to do and where the heck to be out there on the floor. i recall an article by Quick (I think) that someone commented how they'd never been on a team that spent so much time working on the basics/fundamentals. There's a reason. This team is beyond belief behind that learning curve.
I generally preach patience. I generally don't become upset watching games. I'm upset though. I'm upset because I'm watching some ugly basketball. It's only the raw talent that keeps us in ball games. In the fourth when teams turn it up a notch and LOCK down on defense (like the Jazz did... they do deserve the win and even if they lost I'd be calling them the best team on the floor), the blazers fall apart. They don't have that extra notch. heck, they barely have a basic NBA notch. So I'm very frustrated. I'm frustrated that I feel like this team has stepped backwards in fundamental play more than I am at losing. I feel like thse players should be further ahead in the basic understanding of basketball.
There's a talk about a high basketball IQ, but frankly I don't see it out there. After watching this game, I believe James Jones leaving hurt us a LOT more than I would have imagined. His addition to the game allowed him to direct the Blazers with the spacing and basic movement. It allowed us to utilize our talent. Looking at this team, I see us needing another player like Jones. someone with play-off and/or championship experience. someone who's been around. Nate can only do so much. When the players fail to do basic things on the floor, then Nate can only shake his head. He CANT come up with a master plan and show off his coaching because the players couldn't freaking execute it!
Also, I thought this would be the year for the blazers to really break out, and I don't believe it is now. I don't say this because they're losing. I say this because this team is fundamentally wrong on the fundamentals. I'm hopeful they can figure it out this year, but worried that they won't because they're SO far behind. The definitely won't make it past the first round of the play-offs.
All that said, I'm hopeful that the blazers can learn and recover. I recognize that we have new players. I recognize that we're playing without two starters. I recognize that we have a harsh schedule. Still, that doesn't excuse the breakdown of the fundamentals that this team shows.
I'm hopeful that these new players with YEARS of experience (Batum and Rudy) will start directing people out on the floor, because the Blazers NEED that. I know Rudy knows what to do out there, and he REALLY needs to assert himself. Nate needs to allow Rudy to assert himself. Nate also needs to play Batum more. The kid has talent, we're not going anywhere quickly, and so you develop the talent. Batum is behind Webster, but could easily overtake him in a year (I believe).
We have a good team, but unless they suddenly figure out floor spacing, movement away from the ball, and so on, this team is going no where. Unless they figure out how to rotate on defense instead of scrambling from guy to guy leaving THREE Jazz players open... we don't have a prayer of making the finals.
I'm disappointed in this team. They're in good shape but they really needed to work on the matter between their ears and educate themselves better on how the game is played. They also need to play more like a team. Right now, i just see a bunch of individuals out there.
How can this be turned around?
The addition of Greg will plug ONE hole in the dike.
The addition of Webster will provide experience.
Nate needs to assign these guys homework. Take the plays he wants to run and let them read it. Give them tapes and make them watch it. Run the practices and make them do it. whatever they are doing obviously isn't sticking out there.
Nate needs to give Rudy more rope and more leadership. he needs to tell Rudy to speak up and direct the team. I believe Rudy CAN do this and SHOULD do this before he forgets how to move!
Nate needs to play Batum more. This guy IS our future SF. He's 19 and able to handle the pressures of starting. If he was on seattle's team, he'd be dominating with inflated stats and people would be in amazement. Instead, he's even better and able to fit in on a team with already VERY good players. We need to develop that.
In closing
So there you go. Not a positive viewing of the team, and even if we won, this wouldn't have been positive. Watching the play away from the ball was painful. This team has a long ways to go.
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by HurraKane212 on Nov 6, 2008 9:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Me too
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by tominhawaii on Nov 6, 2008 9:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
me 3
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by prezofdeath on Nov 6, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is it possible
the mascot thing was planned? Like Blaze and the cake on the lady last season? If not, that’s really ridiculous.
I like this post and agree with you on Batum. What frustrated me the most last night was not seeing Batum in the second half when we could have used his hustle, defense, and most importantly, rebounding. I love watching this kid play: fills passing lanes, only takes open shots (and makes them!) always always always around the rim on rebounds at both ends. It’s a pleasure. When Webster comes back, I fear I’ll see less of him.
by DrivetheLane on Nov 6, 2008 9:18 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Planned?
I really doubt it. This guy looked legitimately ticked and ready to fight. He also looked like the fonz.
I don’t know that Batum would have helped, because it never felt like we owned this game, and I think that people are a little harsh on Travis. that said, I really think Batum is a better fit as a starter, and Rudy is a better energy guy… except that I still feel like Rudy is watching and we need him to start acting. Part of that may be that the other players don’t know what to do with him yet.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you got punked dude
just like Palin got punked by those Canadians who pretended to be Nicholas Sarkozy.
I saw part of that incident on tv. That “Blazer fan” who got the water dumped on him is on the Jazz payroll. It was all theater to entertain the fans. I can’t believe you fell for it.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
by fisheyes on Nov 6, 2008 9:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it also on the screen
If that is staged, it comes on my list of arena pet peeves along with stupid music playing during play and other things and needs to go.
by Norsktroll on Nov 6, 2008 9:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, hasn't a version of this stunt been done at the Rose Garden?
I’m pretty sure the Mikes called out that this was staged. Sounds like the “Blazer fan” was a good actor.
by shralpster on Nov 6, 2008 9:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If it was staged
that guy was DEFINITELY a good actor.
He had that shocked then angry and “hey… what the hell” and then the “%#$%# you bastard!” and tossing of the beer. Large range of emotions. His reaction when he came back was “yeah, i’m on the big screen… i was an idiot… i’m still pissed… bugger off”… and then he had the bucket dumped on him.
Very realistic. If it was staged, the guy is definitely a good actor.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 9:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be surprised
I’ve seen Jazz stuff like that before……but I’d seriously put my money on it being staged
i guess you could call the jazz and see if there’s employment available at the mascot position….if he really dumped water on a fan, he’d be fired.
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Asked about his way to succeed, Marc Gasol said: "If the coach asks me for banging my own head 200 times, I do it. Even more, I do it 500 times."
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by prezofdeath on Nov 6, 2008 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was staged
I guarantee it was staged, especially if you have a Jazz fan telling you that this has happened before— provoke another team’s fan with silly string.
Stuff like that has sorta happened at Blazer games (fake proposals, etc.)
I guarantee the guy was acting and was either an actor or (more likely) an employee of the Jazz.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Nov 6, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I worry
That you might have been in Utah for too long now.
Morty
PS: Jus’ teasing. Sorta.
by Mortimer on Nov 6, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh...
I’ve DEFINITELY been here too long.
I had put two more years as my limit here, but I may not last another year.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If what you say is true
why not? Were you there watching it?
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by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 9:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my favorite reminder
FANS since karl Malone took out Brian Grants teeth with his wild purposeful elbows.
i think I saw Brian Grant last year. I miss him.
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by BlazerFan1 on Nov 6, 2008 9:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I liked the guy, but he was definitely asking for FAR too much money. I was sad that he didn’t do well with other teams.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 9:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, i also met him in a strip bar
the guy is huge!!!
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by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 9:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw Brian Grant at the Rose Garden
after watching a WWE event in October. He was taking pictures with people and shaking their hands. He was my favorite Blazer of that era.
by DrivetheLane on Nov 6, 2008 10:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Preseason vs Season
The fast break points seem to be dwindling down now that the season started compared to the preseason when Sergio was at the helm. As a team we have not been defending well and our opponents have been shooting a high percentage against us. Look if people are going to score on us and if our shot isnt falling why not give Sergio a bigger role on the team to boost our offense a little? Hell we can’t do much worse on defense with him in there.
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by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 9:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rudy's leadership
1. You can’t force someone to be a leader. You need to be vocal or lead by example.
2. If Rudy became a leader, how would Roy handle it since Rudy is stealing some of his thunder?
3. Does Rudy know enough about what Nate wants and how the team runs to be given leadership roles this early in the season?
4. Is language a bit of a barrier still?
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 9:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts
I’ve stated before that Rudy seems to be watching. when you’re in a new environment, it’s natural to sit back and figure things out instead of being that person everyone hates who’s a know it all and doesn’t yet.
My point is that Nate should talk to Rudy and tell him to be more aggressive and that it’s OKAY to help direct on the floor.
If Roy has a problem with another strong leader… then Roy wouldn’t be Roy. It’s all about winning. James Jones was a leader on that floor. he helped direct traffic and direct spacing and that huge advantage showed.
Rudy speaks english very well. I strongly doubt it, but that’s not something I can answer.
Roy waited to be vocal, I think Rudy is waiting too. My point is that he shouldn’t and Nate should green light that fact. We have talent we’re not fully using yet.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think he would be a good leader as well
I agree that he needs to be comfortable in his situation before he can step up to “pay his respects.” The james jones situation i think of differently tho. He was a veteran…(rudy sort of is), and his role didnt really invade on Roy’s territory.
From time to time my friends actively discuss what would happen if Rudy outplayed Roy so much that it was obvious that Rudy was the better player. It makes for good discussion I think.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 6, 2008 9:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Rudy is the better player
but i do think he’s played on teams that are at a high level and KNOW how to play and space. I want the leadership in THAT department, much like what Jones gave us.
I don’t see Rudy as an actually full on team leader. That will always be Roy. Even if Rudy was better (i don’t know about that, but he is good), Roy has that natural leadership about him.
I just want Rudy more active in directing traffic.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
couldn’t finish the whole thing
I thought Aldridge did a pretty good job working down low. I got a lot of high percentage shots against Boozer. He looked pretty good out there
Roy really looked like he had the flu or something. The first half he was just looking Terrible.
Rudy for ROY and 6th man of the year
by 50backflips on Nov 6, 2008 11:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rudy is definitely kicking it up
on my fantasy team. A freaking steal with my last pick.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You got a lot of shots against Boozer?
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
by hobobob on Nov 6, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I missed that!
Pretty sweet though. Must have been after the game because I was there an hour before the game and didn’t see it. Unless he’s secretly aldridge… hmmm…
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great post!
Completely agree that Nate is under utilizing Rudy. Rudy can do more for the Blazers right now than Roy. Roy is in a state of panic with the double teams. He admitted it last night.
The team didn’t panic but some of its players did. Rudy needs much more leadership!!
Nate needs to give him major minutes and let him direct more of the offense. Sorry BRoy but you need to share the ball with your team mates..
We still need to learn how to put games away. No TO in the fourth quarter. Get some new movement out there. We have been scouted and the other teams aren’t too worried about the Blazers.
by Lu on Nov 6, 2008 2:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I've heard that the Blazers' own Dancing Lady is bankrolled by the team.
This sort of stunt as you witnessed happens in all sorts of venues.
Generally speaking, you can count on it being staged unless you see punches being thrown.
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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 6, 2008 4:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
I think it’s in poor taste then. Effective, but it bothers me that the masses are so easily moved away from what’s right and they simply align with their team right OR wrong. That mob mentality is how many other wrongs take place and I dislike a teams organization manipulating that mob like that.
Definitely got the crowd into it though.
We haven't done anything yet... but don't blink.
by ratbastird on Nov 6, 2008 6:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
really?
i spoke with the hippy fan and he pays for his own tickets. that’d be weird of the dancing lady went for free.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 7, 2008 12:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff -- down with malignant mascots!
FREE SERGIO -- Trade Him or Cut Him NOW!!!
by timbo on Nov 7, 2008 11:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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