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Game 18 Review: Blazers 96 Pistons 85

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Remember last week when Dave was asking for advice about his new HDTV?  Well, his current television caught wind of Dave's scheme and was none too pleased. Dave came home from work last night to find an empty living room with a note on his TV stand. "So, you want to take up with a younger, prettier model, do you?  Fine!  I don't have to take this. I'm leaving!  And don't bother trying to track me down either.  I'm taking the VCR with me. Good luck, Buddy!"  With Dave thusly preoccupied, you're stuck with me for your game recap.

General Observations

The Pistons are a much better matchup for us with Allen Iverson instead of Chauncey Billups.  The crisp efficiency, easy buckets and steady hand that Billups brought to their offense could foreseeably have caused problems for our team defense, which is still learning to play with Greg in the middle.  But Iverson was more The Problem than The Answer for Detroit tonight, as his convoluted drives and 2 for 9 shooting seemed to take his teammates out of rhythm.  His 3 assists were almost accidental. The Pistons tried to do the Prince-as-point-foward thing; it looked improvised, which is not how offenses should look.  

To their credit, the Blazers didn't give the Pistons any time to develop rhythm.  For the umpteenth game in a row, we jumped out to a hot start and tonight it was all LaMarcus Aldridge, who scored 7 of our first 9 points and was hitting jumpers short, medium and long throughout the contest.  While LMA was handling the scoring, Greg was busy manning the defensive glass: his 8 boards in the game's first 9 minutes limited Detroit's second-chance scoring opportunities.  Entering the game, I'm sure there were more than a few observers chuckling at the Oden vs. Kwame Brown matchup.  But Greg got the last laugh tonight: another double-double (11, 13 and 3 blocks) and his first extended play during crunch time against a top opponent.

Our second unit struggled on both ends in both the 2nd and 3rd quarters.  With some time to think about it, though, I'm not sure if we need to read too much into that except to say this: Rodney Stuckey is a beast.  Sergio had the toughest matchup of anyone tonight and he did an admirable job, but Stuckey clearly won that battle.  Nate mixed things up to try to slow Stuckey down, throwing Outlaw, Blake and Batum at him in the second half.  It didn't much matter.  Stuckey's size, strength and ability to get into the lane gave us considerable problems but with no one else able to really get off (Hamilton was their next brightest spot, with 18 points), the game remained winnable throughout the third quarter and into the fourth.

If you recall earlier this season, Dave explained quite well what playoff teams need to be able to do in crunch time: execute well enough so that they can score points when their first (and possibly second) go-to options are taken away from them.  During the crucial 4th quarter stretch that put this game away, our offensive possessions ended like this:

  • Blake hits a wide-open catch and shoot 3 in the corner.
  • LaMarcus hits an open jumper at the top of the key off of the pick and roll.
  • Greg had an uncontested dunk underneath the hoop after a scramble for the ball.
  • Brandon hits an and-one jumper after the pick and roll creates a mismatch (Herrmann?  More like Herrwomann.  No chance against Brandon one on one).
  • Brandon hits an easy layup going to the hoop.
  • The ball swings to Batum who hits an open look baseline jumper.

What's the takeaway from that stretch?  Every possession found the ball in a player's hands where he knows exactly what to do with it.  I really don't think Nate could have drawn up that 3 or so minute stretch any better.  5 different players scored, in all manners and from all distances, and it looked easy.  It looked easy because, relatively speaking, it was easy -- or at least as easy as scoring gets on the road against a quality opponent. 

The points came from all over but our sets didn't really change that much.  Brandon had the ball up top, with LMA setting picks.  Greg was on the low block.  Steve and Nic were just lurking, ready to catch and shoot.  The high pick and roll game dictated the game to Detroit, forcing their defenders to make tough decisions.  When they tried to force the ball out of Brandon's hands, they got killed by every Blazer in a different way.  When they tried to play Brandon straight up, he killed them by himself (as he has been doing all year).  The Pistons never found an answer.  And when we're moving the ball and hitting open shots, it's unclear if there is a good answer.

Individual Observations

The game ball goes to LMA tonight (27 and 4). From start to finish he was draining his shot and he worked hard on defense.  What a night.

Rudy continues to be all over the map.  To get this win without much of an offensive contribution from him (3 points) is surprising.  Tonight was another night where his first one or two shots dictated how his offensive night developed.  He started cold and stayed cold.  As always, he did the Rudy little things -- play hard and draw fouls-- that are invaluable.

Travis also struggled tonight, most memorably when he committed a Jack-esque atrocious over-and-back violation.  He looked like someone who was trying not to fall into a pool and failing miserably.  But his two baskets, both 3s, couldn't have been bigger.  His second triple, especially, which pushed the lead back to 9 during a critical third quarter stretch.  Travis also had a nice block on the defensive end.

As mentioned, Sergio drew a tough matchup against Stuckey and struggled to keep him out of the lane. He gave up 3 turnovers (although Stuckey finished with 5).  But Sergio did have two huge momentum shots to close out the 2nd and 3rd quarters.  The one before halftime, particularly, was sweet: a little flip shot that stayed in the air for an extra half-beat before coming down through the hoop much to everyone's surprise (except Sergio's).  And he also had a nice three on a dish from Rudy with Iverson rushing out at him.  Never easy to remain cool in that situation and just stroke that three.   Despite Stuckey's play, Sergio might have been the brightest star off our bench tonight.

Loved everything about Greg's performance tonight, especially the fact that he got all the playing time down the stretch and the team's execution looked great with him on the floor.  Let's not overlook the fact that he is one of the few seven footers in the league who, when he steps to the free throw line, you think "he's got these" and not "please call an ambulance, I'm having a heart attack."  He was 5-6 from the stripe tonight.  I don't think Hack-a-Greg will be a viable solution to slowing down our fourth quarter offense.  That is awesome.  Also, he looked to be in the best shape of the season, playing 31 minutes.

100,000s of words have been written about Nic Batum but it's still not enough.  He got crunch time minutes tonight too and everything I wrote in the previous paragraph about Greg applies to Nic as well.  He was calm, cool, collected, and clutch.  He's setting a very, very high bar for Martell to meet.

Frye barely played (6 minutes).  I think it's time to get used hearing those words.  Prepare yourself.

Joel also saw much less time than usual (just 17 minutes).  Did tonight represent another step forward in the transfer of pivot power from Joel to Greg?  I think that's probably going too far.  For one, Greg did a good job of staying out of foul trouble early in the game (he played the first 9 minutes).  For two, Greg will get a nice condiitioning test Tuesday night.

Final Thoughts

Huge win.  Another great one for the resume. Credit Nate for having the team ready to go from the opening whistle.  There were plenty of excuses not to show up for this game (first on the road, early start, Sunday after Thanksgiving, etc.).  None of those will be needed after this one.

As of tonight, we are the 3 seed in the West.  But there are plenty of potholes left in this road trip.  Starting with the methball Knicks on Tuesday. 

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Blazers looking sharp!

Not to look past the kicks and wizards, but the Celtics game is the true test.

by baduk on Nov 30, 2008 8:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Great game...

New York and Washington must be put away… Portland can’t relax against these teams… each can creep up..

Ben – Can you explain your 1st paragraph? I read it and assume Dave’s TV was stolen???

by hotstuffdb22 on Nov 30, 2008 8:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

was just a joke.

dave needed to call a pinch hitter tonight… my mind raced to find an explanation.

by Ben. on Nov 30, 2008 8:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

gotcha...

i wasn’t sure if it was a joke or something… i guess i live in an area of a lot of theft, so thought otherwise…

by hotstuffdb22 on Nov 30, 2008 8:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, sure

What that first paragraph is really saying (subliminally) is that Ben thinks he’s a younger, prettier model than Dave is.

The guy moved in on Dave’s blog, now he is moving in on Dave’s post-game reviews. What’s next, Ben? You going to be preaching at Dave’s church soon?

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 30, 2008 10:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you’re killing me jscot. but you’re selling me short. you know im more subtle than that. the next step is to be in the back pew writing “random church notes” such as “it was great to see linda smile during the song this morning. i know she’s had a rough weekend with her daughter stressing out about college choices, so it was nice to see her relax a little bit” and “the choir was practicing early, more than 2 hours before service started. great dedication to the craft — you can’t teach heart.” once that happens, you can ramp up your speculation.

by Ben. on Nov 30, 2008 10:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

Sorry for misunderestimating you.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 30, 2008 10:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's like "The Hand that Rocks the Cradle"

Only Ben’s boobs are nowhere near as spectacular as Rebecca DeMornay’s.

by zaruga on Dec 1, 2008 12:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was half-thinking the same thing

but was like “naa, if that happened Ben wouldn’t be using quite that light of a tone…”

"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan

by jamon51 on Nov 30, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can Martell replace Batum

in the starting line-up?

What about late in games?

Batum’s defense seems more legit… maybe the new martell will show us something we haven’t seen

by hotstuffdb22 on Nov 30, 2008 8:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ben you missed these words

" Batum is HOT"

"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson

by BlazerFan1 on Nov 30, 2008 8:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

do you read dwight’s blog? he loves nic just a smidge less than you do

http://www.dwightjaynes.com/the-blazers-best-game-of-the-season-again

by Ben. on Dec 1, 2008 12:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, Ben, the fact that you keep placing Batum's individual write up as the LAST player is not good.

:(

"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson

by BlazerFan1 on Nov 30, 2008 8:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I thought

you’d have more of a problem with this:

Herrmann? More like Herrwomann. No chance against Brandon one on one

lol…I thought it was hilarious…

"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan

by jamon51 on Nov 30, 2008 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nah I let that one slide...hermann has long lucious locks which is why I think Ben referred to him as a woman

Why Curry had that dood in is beyond me.

Sophia

"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson

by BlazerFan1 on Nov 30, 2008 8:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Miller has, without exception, the most awesome hairstyle in the NBA.

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I once had a similar look to that, although now I’ve got a shaggy, medium-length mop on my head.

by AK1984 on Nov 30, 2008 9:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What about Fabio?

Fabio was posterized by Brandon earlier today; he has many talents, and great hair.

by chnews on Nov 30, 2008 10:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike's on the short list of potential trade acquisitions

I think it helps that the T’Wolves acquired him knowing that they were still a ways off. That means they intended on trading him for youth and expiring contracts. I’d be more than happy to oblige (if the price is right ).

by as11osu on Nov 30, 2008 10:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

knicks/wiz are not gimmes

the blazers will still have to play hard to win, i dont want to see embarassing losses.

but yea the celtics will be the true test, if we can beat knicks/wiz we guarantee ourselves a winning road trip and we can give it 110% against the celts. remember last year we were the hottest team in the NBA and we lost in boston, lets have some revenge.

by Yawnie on Nov 30, 2008 8:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think we COULD win in Boston but I penciled in the L for that one

that place is difficult to play in. The game is on the end of the road trip so fatigue will have set in and Boston will have had some rest (they play like once a week). If we keep things close and make Boston work, i will be happy. Lets not give this one away and be intimidated.

I just want to see Batum block Garnett and redeem himself for that stupid missed dunk

:)

Sophia

"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson

by BlazerFan1 on Nov 30, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont care if we get a L in Boston

as long as a huge brawl breaks out and we really get the best of the Cs in said brawl.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Nov 30, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I sure would not want to be on the receiving end of a punch from Oden!

Blazer's Edge Ambassador to The Dream Shake Blog
It is Official! LMA is BACK!!!
39:33 Mins 11-19 FGs 5-5 FTs +23 3 Off 4 Rebs 2 Stl 1 Blk 27 Points! - LMA vs Det 11-30-08

by LaMarvelous on Nov 30, 2008 9:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear he has soft hands

so maybe it wouldnt be that bad

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Nov 30, 2008 10:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think the knicks

have the type of guard penetration that really exposes our d, but we do have a bit of trouble in transition d so that could be a worry when we play a D’Antoni team. As for the wiz…they have good bloggers, but they may need some more hoops as no one will stop Oden on that team and he may rip down the basket for funsies.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Nov 30, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

didnt

the knicks lose those games? Also, you can play that guy for the drive as he is not a great shooter, if he is hot then he is hard to contain, but most nights you can pack it in on him.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Dec 1, 2008 6:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

take notice game

big game for league rep…detroit is in that upper cluster, and there was no reason for them to have lost except to be outplayed. They were, pretty much player for player. In particular I thought LMA came of age in figuring out he’s a big, at Sheed’s expense. On the down side, despite some good points I think this is the game where KP decides Outlaw may be expendable for the right price. Otherwise he’ll be fighting Frye for precious minutes after Batum and Martell’s.

I love what Ben and Dave add to the game, but this is turning into a special season and a rebirth of Rip City in Oregon, and I don’t want to let it slip by uncommented (by me). So I’m starting to follow them a bit more closely at Loaded O. Add your thoughts any time, accounts are like here, free. Why I think this was a statement game, over at LoadedO

(not to drive traffic away; this is still the first place for the Blazers fix!)

by torridjoe on Nov 30, 2008 8:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I thought podcasts

were on Wednesdays…maybe scroll down the page to find the pre thanksgiving feed (I listened to it on thanksgiving day.)

Also, I subscribe through itunes if that makes things easier.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Nov 30, 2008 9:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i think there will be one wednesday. don’t quote me on that. there was a solid one this past wednesday. check it out.

by Ben. on Nov 30, 2008 9:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great recap...

When are you going to start doing Media Row Reports for away games? Come on, The Oregonian sends like twenty reporters to a single football game, and isn’t the print media supposed to be dying off right now?

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 30, 2008 8:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Greg's conditioning is definately getting better!

He’s actually got a good run in transition vs lumbering about to trip and fall face-first onto the floor run.

I didn't mean to turn you on

by dukedee on Nov 30, 2008 9:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dude, I was seriously wondering if a recap would ever show up...

but apparently something messed with Dave’s reality and he got you to stand in for him.

Way to step up and knock down the three! This game was awesome from start to finish. Oh, I know there were a few nervous moments when the Blazers went temporarily cold but Detroit could not capitalize.

The best part of all 3rd seed! I guarantee that there was not one person in the whole world that would have placed us this high at this point in the season. Not even the biggest homer here at BEdge would have come up with this and really meant it.

They say if it sounds too good to be true it usually is…

Well this ain’t usually! Whoo Hooo!

Blazer's Edge Ambassador to The Dream Shake Blog
It is Official! LMA is BACK!!!
39:33 Mins 11-19 FGs 5-5 FTs +23 3 Off 4 Rebs 2 Stl 1 Blk 27 Points! - LMA vs Det 11-30-08

by LaMarvelous on Nov 30, 2008 9:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

About Batum's missed dunk.

I think he is too used to just easily wristing his dunks in the hoop with his long arms that it got blase’ to him and took it a little too lightly. its ok though. Greg got a free Reb and was fouled and made 2 FTs lol.

"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."

by bowdown on Nov 30, 2008 9:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I want someone to make a video of all Batum's missed dunks.

He’s taking over Outlaw’s role in more than one way.

by tominhawaii on Dec 1, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Last game I get to watch for awhile

Don’t think the girlfriend will appreciate me finding a Wi-fi spot in Cozumel to stream the game :) Good game to stick in my memory for a bit.

Hope Nate Rob has a good game Tuesday but everyone else on the knicks sucks!

by ericande on Nov 30, 2008 9:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Great win.

Big statement to the league. Way, way ahead of schedule to knock off New Orleans and then take down Deee-troit Basketball at the Palace. And the blowouts against Chicago and Miami are looking better and better after both those teams notched nice road wins in the last couple days.

Loved LMA’s game tonight. Took open jumpers when they were there within the flow, and went hard inside (right at Sheed!) when the opportunities were there. This was a huge game for him, and not just statistically. His confidence should and will continue to rise.

On league pass, even Detroit’s announcers were saying Batum is a mirror-image of Tayshaun. At 18 years old, coming from the opposition, that is VERY high praise. Assuming Martell comes back fully healthy, his injury and the resulting opportunity for Nic may (amazingly) turn out to be one of the big breaks of the season.

Greg played well. That’s exactly what the Blazers need from him right now. Don’t force the issue in the post. Kick in, kick out, keep it moving. Ben, you think commentators somehow see a comparison with Kwame? Basically what they have in common is that they were both number one picks at C, and neither one has put up a 30/20 game yet. Only one is among the lead leaders in PER at the position even though he’s coming off microfracture. (I know we’re on the same side here and that YOU weren’t making the comparison – but even the suggestion fired me up a little!)

What more can be said about B-Roy. He’s just sick. There is nobody in the league icier down the stretch. It really does seem like the only reason he doesn’t score 40 is by choice.

Second unit was the one not so bright spot, but they can’t dominate every night. Seems like the past couple games those guys have played better when incorporated piecemeal with the starters, rather than straight up line changes. It will be interesting to see if that continues.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Nov 30, 2008 9:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Almost every big win i think,

“that was the best win of the season!” But for me, this win really was the best. Detroit is the most defensively aggressive team in the league at home, and they hit us hard. Pressing our perimeter players relentlessly. But still we weathered the storm and even flourished under the pressure. We haven’t seen a defense that tough yet and still be able to control the game. It was beautiful basketball. Kudos to our bigs for stepping up to Detroit’s ridiculous board crashing, and obviously the Natural for being dependably amazing…again.

by dario argento on Nov 30, 2008 9:51 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Roy has the ability

To run our offense in the clutch moments. That is exactly what he did tonight.

by ryryslyry on Nov 30, 2008 9:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec

Definitely best win of the season.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 30, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That should say

what he did Today. The team follows Roy’s lead, hitting the big shots they need to make for us to be truly competitive.

by ryryslyry on Nov 30, 2008 10:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Le Bokz...

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Nov 30, 2008 10:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

First unit ROLLED

Has there been a game like this so far? All starters at least plus 19. All second unit guys (who played more than 6 minutes) minus double digits. Pretty dramatic difference. Rudy only took four shots – he needs to keep shooting the rock even if he misses a couple. If he and Travis both don’t create offense, the second unit has nothing going for it. Luckily Sergio put up an unexpected 8 points on 3-for-3 to keep them afloat.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Nov 30, 2008 10:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They were dedicating two men

to denying Rudy the ball coming off of screens. He’s not going to be putting up shots if he’s not getting the ball coming off of screens.

Up to Nate to install pick and ROLL away from the ball — if the man setting the screen rolls to the hoop when they do that, he’s open and it’s an easy two. Look for this adjustment soon.

Early season stuff.
1. Rudy comes out and goes on a tear.
2. Defenses put in some wrinkles to stop what he’s doing.
3. (still waiting for this one) Nate puts in some adjustments to punish teams for those defensive tricks.

Eventually, we’ll reach an equilibrium where the defenses will stop Rudy more than at the start of the season, but not as much as they are right now.

Detroit obviously determined that, whatever else happened, Rudy was not going to be the bench guy that beat them. Offensively, the only bench guy that really stepped up to that challenge is Sergio. If Martell starts and Nic becomes a spot-up shooter off the bench, that might help. It’s also possible we’ll just see Nic continuing to start and Martell go into the second unit to bolster our offensive attack there. We needed something more — Channing being an offensive threat, Travis going on a tear, or something.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 30, 2008 11:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's time to play Bayless with the second team.

Right now we don’t have a Roy type player on the second team that can drive, force the defense to commit and kick out to other guys. That would help Rudy.

Right now, Sergio can drive, but he’s not enough of a threat to cause the defense to collapse. Travis can get his own shot, of course, but he’s not good at getting the defense to commit and then passing. All Channing can do is stand outside and hit jumpers. And Joel can just stand on the block and be ready to catch a pass from a cutter.

We should play Bayless in the second unit and allow him to create more for Rudy. I know he can drive to the hoop and also has a nice mid-range game (see Summer League) and his 13 minutes of play so far this season don’t disprove that (maybe more than 13, but not significant). I wish Rudy was bigger so it would be easier to play Sergio, Bayless and Rudy together. That would open things up.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 30, 2008 11:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps

Sergio was a legit offensive threat last night, he scored off the drive, he knocked down a 3. That was really the best >scoring< game I think I’ve seen him play. It was pathetic to miss those free throws, he definitely should have scored in double figures.

We can say, “Play Bayless,” but I just don’t see how you sit down Sergio. And I don’t see how you sit down Blake, either. The guy was so clutch last night in the last few minutes, knocking down an open J, beating the press, pushing the ball with 2 minutes left and then, when there was nothing there, pulling back and running 10 seconds off, then handing it to Brandon to do his thing. Blake shooting was adequate but not on fire, but his handling of the game was super-professional. A very impressive game, more impressive to me than games where he’s knocking down 4-5 3s.

You can win a championship with Blake at the point. I don’t know if we will, because we may have two PGs on the bench who will be better than him by next year. But the guy is a great fit for this team, he knows his role, and he plays it.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 30, 2008 11:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't completely disagree but...
You can win a championship with Blake at the point.

I agree that Blake has been playing great and that he’s a great fit, but that statement would’ve gotten somebody locked up a year or two ago. I’m not completely sure I disagree – if the other four guys are good enough that all the PG needs to do is hit open jumpers and not turn the ball over.

But Blake’s limitations are what they are – he’s playing much better on D, lately, but he’s still not a great defender, especially against big strong PGs (like Billups). And he still can’t create much himself for other guys unless the D is REALLY begging him to.

He’s one of the best shooters in the game from the PG position, though, he’s tough as nails, and he never plays outside himself. And maybe given the Blazers other personnel those qualities are the most important for this team.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Dec 1, 2008 9:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been saying that about Blake

since we acquired him a year and a half ago. No one locked me up, though not everyone agreed.

All you need outside of the Big Three is role players. San Antonio has been proving that for years. Blake is the essence of a role player.

You don’t need a great defensive PG when you have a great shot-blocker behind him. All you need is a guy who is smart enough to learn where to funnel the guy who is penetrating. Blake is a smart player.

Blake has always been a very good fit for the guys we have. Sergio and Jerryd have some going to do to take his spot.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Dec 1, 2008 9:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm curious

How much is Batum clearly outplaying Trout due to Batum playing with the starters and therefore getting better looks? Because I have never seen Nic force a shot, while forcing shots is Travis’ bread and butter.

I mean, Nic defends better, rebounds better and takes much, much better shots. I think his BB IQ is higher (not good that a 19 year old rook from France looks like he has a better handle on the game than a fifth year vet). Good to see Nate giving Nic starter minutes, not just the start.

by AndrewD on Nov 30, 2008 10:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think Nic playing better than Travis has more to do with his defense and not forcing things on offense

If Travis could blend well with the first unit and play better defense, then he would look as good as Batum.

I don’t think Nic looks better because he gets to play with the starters; I think he looks better because Travis doesn’t look good with the starters.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 30, 2008 11:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll raise

I hate his stupid goggle visors too.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Dec 1, 2008 4:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let me see.....

… a week ago we had all sorts of people talking about how messed up Portland was. How Oden will not live up to being the top pick, how Aldridge is too soft, etc, etc. And that was after a win.

Now, three games later, we still see people trying to argue that Portland still needs to trade for players, in order to get better. Better than what?

The high point of my Thanksgiving holiday was easily getting to see three Blazers games on TV. Working up here in Seattle, I don’t have that luxury most of the time. And guess what? They not only won all three, they did so by double digit margins. Against two playoff teams from last season and against a team they had earlier lost to.

When are some of the fans here going to get it? This team doesn’t need a point guard. This team doesn’t need a SF. It doesn’t need a low post banger at PF. It doesn’t need a shutdown perimeter defender, an instant offense guy off the bench. It doesn’t need some wiley veteran to steady it. It most certainly doesn’t need a new coach. It does not “need” a damn thing, other than to have fans who appreciate it. Most do.

It would be so nice to start seeing people notice that the Blazers came out three games in a row and won the first quarter. In fact they did more than that. They pretty much blew the doors off their opponents. Does anyone understand what that does? Even when the other guy makes their runs to bring the score closer, Portland has given itself that cushion that almost ensures it can’t lose without quiting on the game. More than anything else – with the possible exception of Batum’s play (ok, and Sergio’s improvement) – watching how Portland came out to start the last three games is the most impressive and encouraging sight I’ve seen this season. Western Conference teams should be afraid. Very afraid. Portland is yet to start hitting regularly on all cylinders and they already have the 3rd best recond in the west.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 1, 2008 7:26 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If you're referencing my post - I wasn't talking about how "messed up" Portland was...

I was talking about how certain things needed to improve for this team to make the playoffs. I listed four or five things that might help that happen. And fortunately, several of those things have come to pass almost right away – most notably, LMA found his game, and the D improved a LOT.

The team was looking ok, but in a WC that’s still very tough, no way they make the playoffs as a bottom five team in defensive efficiency. Thankfully, they’ve stepped it up. But I don’t think that invalidates my point.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Dec 1, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not you specifically. Just the rather high number of fans ...

… who were finding all sorts of fault with Portland after a lackluster win.

On the point that Portland needs to improve it’s defense, I agree. I think the last three games shows that Nate is getting through to them. Plus, their defensive numbers could be a combination of playing a tough schedule and trying to work three new guys into the rotation. Considering they were a pretty decent defensive team last season and the addition of Oden, Batum and even Rudy should act to improve the overall defensive talent, I think we can look forward to their D numbers getting better.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 1, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Outlaw expendable?

Outlaw’s recent struggle to find his niche with this team, coupled with Batum seamlessly fitting in, has convinced me that once Webster returns to form (and he will) Outlaw is the odd man out and should be packaged up and dealt.

Assuming this happens what are Portland’s greatest needs?

We’ve got our starting two (Roy), three (Webster), four (Aldridge) and five (Oden). We’ve at least got our second unit one (either Sergio or Blake), two (Rudy), three (Batum) and five (Joel).

If you agree with me so far, that leaves a starting one and a second unit four as our two greatest needs.

If it’s a starting one – and I’m not convinced that we need to change anything at this position – then we certainly need a pass first point guard who can shoot the three. Other than Chris Paul who is not a realistic possibility, is there a player who is better than Blake who fits this description?

If it is a backup four then I’m thinking we need a veteran banger who can match up against players who present LA problems physically and who can bring a strong low post game. I like Frye’s offensive game when he is on, but when he is off he doesn’t bring a lot to the table, plus even his outside game is similar to LA’s. Who comes to mind? Elton Brand?

by mlsinpdx on Dec 1, 2008 10:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm as happy as anyone with the win, but...

I wouldn’t put to much stock in beating the Pistons at this point. They are obviously still trying to find out how to fit Iverson into their rotation, and have not exactly been setting the world on fire with their post-Billups record (6-6).

Additionally, and this is just as a fan speaking so please don’t pile on me, I thought some of the matchup decisions were a little questionable. Leaving Oden or Joel to guard Wallace like we did in the second half plays right into his hands. Sheed loves camping on the outside, so it draws our best interior defender to the outside opening up the lane. At the point I’m talking about Aldridge was taking a breather, so I would have expected Frye to be on the floor as a big who can defend the perimeter. Instead Sheed drilled a few treys, and Rodney Stuckey drove to the hoop – thank goodness it wasn’t AI doing that or he might have FINALLY got a fire lit under him and taken over the game.

I think the Blazers are the better team. I think the Blazers DESERVED to win. But a few things just disturbed me. Especially Rudy and Sergio both making some bad turnovers early.

But enough negativity! That was STILL a good win, on the road, against a quality team. And we Blazers fans have got a LOT go look forward to!!!

by the_mad_nader on Dec 1, 2008 1:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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