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Game 17 Preview: Hornets vs. Blazers

OK...it's Thanksgiving, it's nearly midnight, and we just played the Hornets a couple weeks ago.  So for the official preview I'm going to refer you back to this post.  It's pretty much still applicable.  The Hornets have had a couple confidence-shaking losses since but they've righted the ship with four straight wins now, including a squeaker against Denver last night.

As an added bonus here's half of a Q+A with Rohan from AtTheHive.  You can find the half where he asks questions to me at his site.

Blazersedge:  While 8-5 is not a bad start by any means the Hornets have had some disappointing losses:  Sacramento, Charlotte, even Atlanta and Houston in some ways.  First, what are the main factors when the Hornets struggle?  Second, how is the team's confidence?

AtTheHive:  The Hornets lose primarily due to high allowed field goal percentage. The defensive rebounding has been there, the forced turnovers have been there. But in losses, the Hornets allow much higher than acceptable conversion rates from the field, especially from deep. Two things factor into this- penetration defense and perimeter rotations. I'd spell it out more, but it's a lot easier to explain visually. If you scroll down in this post there's a video I put in there that really captures our two biggest issues. Other than that, the Hornets have begun a disturbing trend of having severe offensive droughts, sometimes several times a game. That's a coaching issue more than anything else.

Confidence-wise, the team got exactly what it needed: a home and away back-to-back versus everyone's favorite opponent, the Oklahoma City Bennetts. The Hornets picked up a win at the Clippers and at the Nuggets after that. So my feeling is that they're in a good place. They need a win against another "real" team (after Denver last night) to prove they're out of the funk though.

Blazersedge:  New Orleans is shooting as well as ever but the offensive production has dropped from last season.  What's going on?

AtTheHive:  The offensive rebounding has taken a huge hit. Tyson Chandler was really the only offensive rebounding force the Hornets had last year, but he did a terrific job of it. This year, he's had some issues with his right ankle, limiting his ability to jump. One of Tyson's biggest strengths as a rebounder is his ability to leap up and tap back rebounds that are out of his reach. Minus that leaping ability, he hasn't been able to do it this year.

Chris Paul has had a slightly higher turnover rate as well. But that's something I chalk up to small sample size more than anything. Give him 20 more games, and he should again be among the league's least turnover prone point guards.

Blazersedge:  I go back and forth about the New Orleans defense.  On the one hand they play effectively and that's all that matters.  On the other hand it seems like there are defensive weak links on that squad.  Then again, Tyson Chandler covers up a world of sins.  How would you rate the Hornets' defense?  You've said they tend to leave perimeter players open.  What are the keys to their defense and how can it be exploited?

AtTheHive:  Mediocre, but improving. Last year, the Hornets' one, giant, monumental, unbelievably awesome, stupendously terrific attribute on defense was the ability to stay away from fouls. They simply did not foul anyone, anywhere, any time. This year, that hasn't been the case. With Tyson Chandler missing a few games, foul prone guys like Hilton Armstrong have been forced into action. Again, this is something I expect will even out over time. But for now, that big advantage simply isn't there, and the D is significantly worse off for it.

The best way to exploit the defense is to pass. Pass the ball around the perimeter, toss it in the paint, and bring it back out, whatever. Ball movement drives the Hornets crazy because Byron Scott loves to rotate his defenders around a ton. Zip a few crisp passes around the three point line, and chances are you'll find a crazy mismatch like Aldridge on Paul or Roy on Chandler.

In general I think this game is winnable, though it certainly won't be easy.  The Blazers historically don't mess around with revenge games, even against superior opponents.  Plus New Orleans has been playing well but not like world-beaters.  It's also been a while since they've lost.  Throw in Greg Oden pounding on Chandler and the Blazers' new-found ability to ace out opponent scorers and you find at least a ghost of a chance.  Make no mistake, New Orleans is the better team.  This just feels like a night where the better team might not win.

Personally I'd love to get this win.  And I mean "love" in a stable, secure way.  It's not like playing the L*kers where you'd do or sacrifice anything to get the object of your desire.  That's a power imbalance right there.  You want it too badly...more than could ever be returned.  You've surrendered your power and become a doormat.   Those kind of relationships never last and seldom lead to anything good.  But this would be the kind of win you could take home to momma...a win that shows you might be on the way to better things.  It's not The One, of course.  It's way too early to be thinking about that yet.  But wins like this are a good sign that you could be on that road. 

Should be a great game.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

P.S.  Don't forget to enter the Jersey Contest here

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waiting with bated breath to find out if chandler is playing…. anyone? anyone?

by Ben Golliver on Nov 28, 2008 12:12 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

lol

plus one for the Ben Stein reference

That is really hideous
--jscot

by prezofdeath on Nov 28, 2008 12:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Chandler is attempting to fly to Portland for tonight’s game against the Trail Blazers, though his availability is still uncertain.

link

swarm PDX. do not let that man through baggage claim.

by Ben Golliver on Nov 28, 2008 12:18 AM PST up reply actions  

careful

big brother is watching. you mention anything to do with airports and you’ll be slapped on the FBI watchlist in no time.

That is really hideous
--jscot

by prezofdeath on Nov 28, 2008 12:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Chandler SHOULD be on the FBI no-fly list

As should be a number of other NBA players. Especially stars from other teams.

by Norsktroll on Nov 28, 2008 1:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Good thing we have our own PA private plane

So we don’t have to bother with all those dopes

That is really hideous
--jscot

by prezofdeath on Nov 28, 2008 2:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Attempting to Fly?

Is this 1903? There are about a dozen flights a day from LAX to PDX.

"But we need a center", Inman said. "So play him at center!" Knight yelled back. - Bobby Knight on Michael Jordan prior to the Blazers' 1984 draft pick of Sam Bowie.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 28, 2008 5:50 AM PST up reply actions  

there he stood on the edge of his feather

attempting to fly. – Neil Young

All the kids who played the blues would learn my licks with a bottleneck slide. - Richard Palmer-James

by 22baylor on Nov 28, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

"Learnin to fly.....

….but I ain’t got wings…coming down is the hardest thing"

On drowning my daughter before she becomes a teenager (to my son)-"You know how when you want to drown someone, you first tie something heavy to the their foot?" My Son: "Yeah?" Me:"You're the something heavy"

by 92wastheyear on Nov 28, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

12:01 AM? Smells like a timed release.

Nevertheless, good stuff, and hope you’re having a good Thanksgiving sir Dave!

That is really hideous
--jscot

by prezofdeath on Nov 28, 2008 12:12 AM PST reply actions  

An interesting test

It would be nice to play well in a home game against quality opposition. We should be able to beat these guys pretty solidly if we play well. But they are a good team, and Paul can carry them. Would be nice to knock down some early 3s and put them in a hole.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 28, 2008 2:11 AM PST reply actions  

They did a great job

of putting Miami in a hole and keeping them there. If they can bring anything close to the same kind of game, I think it’s over for NO.
So is Batum going to be on Paul???

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.

by Blazer1342 on Nov 28, 2008 2:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd say hornets qualify

Spurs ain’t bad either.

That is really hideous
--jscot

by prezofdeath on Nov 28, 2008 2:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I want this game so bad

It’s freakin 2:54 and I’m obsessing over the thought of a win over NO.

Oden/Pryz
LMA/Frye
WebFoot/Trout
Roy/Rudy
Blake/Bayless
**Champs 08-09**

by BigCelPhone on Nov 28, 2008 2:54 AM PST reply actions  

the blazers will win

based on gut feeling im tipping the blazers by 12, i think the first half will be close, or the hornets may be leading, but we have too many weapons clicking at the moment, it will be important for the blazers to get off to a solid start and force people apart from chris paul to make plays.

  • the only other player on the hornets who can create a shot for himself consistently is david west
  • i am expecting broy to be guarding stojakovic or morris peterson and batum on chris paul for a few possessions with good help defense
  • whoever is guarding chandler will leave him open outside the paint
  • LMA must keep david west from going right on drives/post ups, i think i saw a stat where his FG % is not good going left
  • i think the blazers will trap paul after he crosses the half court a few times
  • pryz will most likely finish the game, however oden will try and wear out chandler/west early
  • blazers need to control defensive rebounds and limit steals, as chris paul and posey are ball hawks who get steals for easy transition points

my tip: blazers by 12

by Yawnie on Nov 28, 2008 3:59 AM PST reply actions  

I'm excited

I get to watch this game live instead of recorded.

by tominhawaii on Nov 28, 2008 5:15 AM PST reply actions  

I like sacrafice dave....

It indicates the things of this world have value in the next.

and that means alot to me :)

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Nov 28, 2008 6:26 AM PST reply actions  

Chandler’s availability will make a huge difference in the outcome of this game. Without him, I don’t see how they can win. Hilton Armstrong is a decent young player but he simply doesn’t have the size to compete with the Blazers’ front line (he made Nene look like Shaq last night on TNT).

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Nov 28, 2008 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

If they lose

he will forget it ever happend

On drowning my daughter before she becomes a teenager (to my son)-"You know how when you want to drown someone, you first tie something heavy to the their foot?" My Son: "Yeah?" Me:"You're the something heavy"

by 92wastheyear on Nov 28, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Preview at hoopsworld

This simulation likes the Blazers. It has no track record as prognosticator, so take it with a grain of salt, but it’s kinda fun. BuzzerBeater forecast.

by PoliSam on Nov 28, 2008 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

I liked that

> A big reason for the Portland win will be the inside defensive play of Oden and Aldridge, who will keep David West from breaking out in a big way, limiting him to an average of 17 points on just 6-17 shooting. Portland should also be dominant on the boards, where we expect the Blazers to have an average of 11 rebound advantage, including 6 on the offensive end, led by Aldridge with 14 and Oden with 13.

I hope that comes true – and I hope we take advantage of the fact that we’ve been at home and they are on the 2nd half of a back to back, and the first half was at Denver.

Thanks for the link PoliSam. – Elgin

All the kids who played the blues would learn my licks with a bottleneck slide. - Richard Palmer-James

by 22baylor on Nov 28, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Last game

we held West down pretty well. But before that we had NO success in stopping him whatsoever.

—Dave

by Dave on Nov 28, 2008 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Taking West out of his game

Is one of the keys to winning tonight.

"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."

by BlueBooYay on Nov 28, 2008 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Good one, NO success . . .

    against New Orleans either.

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Nov 28, 2008 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a game Portland *should* win

First, it’s at the Rose Garden. Every team we play at the Rose Garden we should be favored or at worse a toss-up. NO is playing well the last few games but so is Portland and NO is coming off back-to-back with Denver that went down to the end and some key players played a lot of minutes.

Key to the game?
Jump on them hard and early. If we can get up by double digits in the first half I’m not sure NO will have the energy to turn the game around.

by ericande on Nov 28, 2008 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

JAMES POSEY.

he makes such big shots i cant even comprehend how annoying it is to watch his sideways 3 pointer go in.

"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."

by bowdown on Nov 28, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If we dont go through a shooting slump

We should win this one. We have better personal overall

"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."

by bowdown on Nov 28, 2008 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

Let BRoy set up in the middle . . .

     on the last shot. No sideline extended plays
that get doubled and force a bad shot !

    COINCAST SUCKSSSSSS ! TNT RULES !!!!!
                         GO BLAZERS !!!!!

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Nov 28, 2008 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

Nice last paragraph, Dave

You let you talent take over there again!

by loteq on Nov 28, 2008 4:35 PM PST reply actions  

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