Getting LeBron to Portland - by H Abbott
by timg56 on Nov 26, 2008 11:46 AM PST
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PrintHave you guys seen this from Henry Abbott?
Skip down to the end where he (and David Thorpe) come up with a couple of trade suggestions.
Anybody here willing to make those trades?
Not me. Not by a country mile. Why gut the team for James?
No worries though. By the time Cleveland would have to start considering trading him, Portland will be so good that we won't need LeBron.
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HELLZ NO
He suggests pretty much trading the entire team for LeBron and Ilgauskas. I couldn’t say no fast enough. It’d pretty much gut everything KP and the organization has worked for the past 4 years for a one-time shot at dethroning Kobe.
Of course, the alternative consensus is that no team is better situated to be The Team of the next decade, contending every year.
M, period. Fresh, comma.
that is,
the Blazers are already set up to contend for a long time. Why sacrifice that for ANYTHING, especially a huge roll of the dice?
M, period. Fresh, comma.
Here you go...
Blazers Get:
LeBron James
J.J. Hickson
Ben Wallace
Cavaliers Get:
LaMarcus Aldridge
Jerryd Bayless
RLEC
Travis Outlaw
Channing Frye
Congratulations. Nate McMillan has Sergio defending !
by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 26, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3437~1966~885~2983~3417~2754~454~2015&teams=22~22~22~5~5~5~5~5&te=&cash=
Congratulations. Nate McMillan has Sergio defending !
by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 26, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
No, No, No and oh BTW did I say No?
#12!
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by LaMarvelous on Nov 27, 2008 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
I'd demand to keep Rudy in that deal
This lineup could conceivably win a championship
Joel
LMA
Lebron
Rudy
Blake/Bayless/Sergio/Nate McMillan/Baby point guard
That is really hideous
--jscot
scratch that, we could win the western conference championship every year
we’d be too busy losing to cleveland every year for the NBA championship.
That is really hideous
--jscot
by prezofdeath on Nov 26, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
No and no
- I’m starting to feel like Joel is the third most untradeable player on the team, because there’s a replacement for everybody but him, and he’s the difference between a team that can win and a team that will win.
- Baby point guard is the future!
(Actually, baby point guard was a very funny addition. ;-)
- I think for a superstar you would consider trading LMA and Rudy, though I love them.
I could handle the first one
The second one leaves an empty team around LeBron and he’d ditch as soon as he could. I think LeBon and Oden together could hurt a lot of people.
We'd lose SO MUCH of our season ticket holder base though
right now we have young chicks like sophia and twiggs coming solely to see hot guys like batum and rudy. Imagine if we traded everyone to get Lebron and keep Oden.
The only people who would come to the game would be the die-hards and the 55 year old single grandmas
That is really hideous
--jscot
by prezofdeath on Nov 26, 2008 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
For like a game
You know everyone would watch the game on ESPN and then be back at the Rose Garden the next home game. I worry that getting LeBron will prevent us from getting Kobe.
thats sad if rudy and batum
were the SOLE reasons they are ticket holders.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 26, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
This trade would fetch us LeBron & put us in a position to win the next 10 nba ships.
Congratulations. Nate McMillan has Sergio defending !
by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 26, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
That's not an outrageous suggestion.
However there is one big reason I would reject it out of hand.
LeBron has his eyes set on something past an NBA championship. He wants icon status similar to Jordan and Tigar Woods. And while he realizes he is likely going to have to win a title or so along the way, that is not his ultimate goal. Keep in mind that guys like Jordan and Woods generate product marketing and endorsement revenue streams far in excess of the money they earn in their professions. I would have to have very strong assurances that James would be in Portland for the long term.
hakkaa päälle !
I'm sorry, but I just can't fathom Brandon Roy not being a part of this team.
Maybe it’s stupid sentimentalism on my part, but I’d trade anyone else on the team before I traded Roy.
I’d offer up LMA or Oden before I traded Roy. Come to think of it, a package of Oden, Rudy, Outlaw, Bayless, RLEC and some draft picks might be enough to get LeBron over here.
Eh, probably not, actually. I can’t imagine the Cavs would do any deal for LeBron with Portland that didn’t involve Roy. And as such, I just can’t say I’d approve of one.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
yep
Roy is going nowwhere. Dave had a good post about all the trade dynamics about a month ago… I think he was pretty much right on.
by hotstuffdb22 on Nov 26, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
No, it is not stupid sentimentalism...
Trading Brandon Roy for LeBron would be an all out heart transplant. An extremely dangerous proposition even under the best of circumstances. I say we keep our heart right where it belongs. PERIOD
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by LaMarvelous on Nov 26, 2008 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
even if these hypothetical trades work on paper
they may not work out on the court. you can’t really predict how a players chemistry with his teammates will be. hell…when denver traded for AI the media thought they would be immediate contenders.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 26, 2008 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Same
Roy is the untouchable franchise player. If LeBron comes, Roy will still be on the team. No matter what happens.
Congratulations. Nate McMillan has Sergio defending !
by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 26, 2008 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Ridiculous.
No effin way. if u look at the production alone that we lose, its not worth it in what we gain.
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Even if the trade made perfect sense
from a basketball standpoint, the Blazers would still have the problem of convincing LeBron to remain in Portland after his contract expires.
I’ve made this pojnt before but it bears repeating: LeBron’s issue in Cleveland is not so much whether or not the Cavs will ever win a title. His real problem is that it’s not a large enough media market to help him realize his publicly stated ambitions to be the most famous athlete on Earth and as rich as Croesus.
There’s only two NBA markets big enough to help LeBron meet his goals. Here’s a hint: One of them isn’t Portland.
by knickfan on Nov 26, 2008 12:34 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I hate Lebron
Awesome player, but seems like a shallow, pos person. Just my opinion based on watching him for 5 years and hearing about him for 9.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Nov 26, 2008 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
it's about team
Stars belong in the sky…where they really want to be…they emit their own light…..If there is an all star player out there for Portland, I’d much rather it be Dwayne Wade…A planet….that shines because it reflects light….
I simply don’t get all this gush about James….even if he had BBIQ……So don’t play all your valuable chips on a player that is not a franchise player…..
The thought of this guy on our team, makes me cringe….Don’t like him at all………….
'Liability on defense, is an asset on the bench" a quote from my basketball coach, who believed good defense won games and made the offense a product of it
by 67 on Nov 28, 2008 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
There is nothing shallow about wanting to maximize one's potential
And while James’ basketball potential is nearly unlimited, what he can achieve on the court pales in comparison to becoming a worldwide icon.
hakkaa päälle !
We wait till 2010
We could do a sign an trade with cleveland. They would have no choice to do it casue they could not let Lebron walk and get nothin in return. We could give them LMA, Outlaw/Webster depending who is still on the team, Bayless, another minor player to make the contracts match, then draft picks galore. Like I said cleveland would do it casue something would be better then nothing for Lebron. But the big key here is that Lebron would want to sign with us, and that would be the tuffest part. This is also better then trading for him now or next year cause we could trade for Lebron then still have him leave after 2010.
how about we just sit back
and enjoy what we have?
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 26, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
That idea by Thorpe is horrible
We would basically become the Cavaliers, and they would become the Blazers. Stupid.
"For such a dumb kid, you've got a pretty smart mouth."
Hey, cross-posting fun. So it's 1989
and I offer you Jordan for Drexler, Kersey, and Terry Porter. You all really turning that down?
And I actually think there’s a bigger gap between 2009 Roy and James versus 1989 Drexler and Jordan.
I’d prefer the HA version over the DT version (I like Oden more than LMA) but I’d make either trade, if Bronbron agreed to a max extension as a condition of completing the trade. For one thing, I think we can kiss our dreams of multiple banners goodbye if the Knicks succeed in Operation Unite LBJ/Bosh/Wade/Nash.
naw...in 2 years Nash is DEF going to be running out of gas
but LBJ + Wade + bosh is DEF scary, but then again, so is LMA + ROY + ODEN if all pans out (since we are on the subject of hypotheticals.)
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if we had kp back then
he would have convinced sabas to come over the same way he convinced rudy….Adelmans blazers + sabas = no michael jordan era. definitely no 2x 3 peats.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 26, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm, ok.
I still would’ve liked Sabas + MJ, Buck, Ainge and Drazen over Sabs + Drexler, Buck, Kersey, and Porter. Which is kind of the point I’m making here, and not any kind of point about Sabs.
by howlingfantods on Nov 26, 2008 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
draz would have complained
just the same way he played behind drexler he would have played behind mj.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 26, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Phily gots to put history into context
As much talent as KP has I dont think he would have enough to bring Sabonis to Portland at that time. The problem wasn’t getting Sabonis to want to come over, the problem was getting the little known communist counrty named the Soviet Union to let Sabonis come over and play.
oh
i was really young at the time so i’m pretty sure i could be wrong, but i could have sworn that sabas didn’t want to or wasnt 100% into coming over unlike rudy was for various reasons.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 26, 2008 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
I don't believe that is correct..
They were already letting hockey players come over by then.
Sabonis didn’t come over because he didn’t want to. He was comfortable with where he was.
hakkaa päälle !
Hell YEA!
We would basically become the Cavaliers, and they would become the Blazers. Stupid.
Last time I checked, the Cavs went to the finals two years ago and then took the Celtics to seven games last year. Oh yea, they are one of the hottest teams in the NBA at 11-3. Look, I love Roy too, but we are looking at the best player in the NBA. The possibility of pairing LeBron with Oden, think about the monster dunks!
smile, your on a poster
oden was part of the trade proposed....
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have to say
Heck no to this. Why trade our whole team for him thats redonkulos. Why is everyone so flippin high on Lebron anyway? yeah he is an awesome player. But if I had to chose 1 player to start my team with, it would be roy hands down. He is the energy that makes the moster come to life.
Here is my prediction for the new year, 1 Stephen A will get Pritch Slapped, 2 A Blazers playoff birth, 3 Joel will win MIP this year, 4 Raef will win cheerleader of the yeah and come in 2nd to most overpaid not player play next to Starbury
HMMM!
I think everyone is failing to see that Lebron wants to Market himslef and become the highest paid athelete in history. I don’t think he is as interested in banners and rings as he is in making himslef a brand. If he got traded to Portland he would just leave when is contract was up leaving us with nothing about 4 years down the road. What is wrong with the team we have now. Why not just keep them together for a few years and see what happens.
Lebron will become
A tragic Kobe like “big” man in NY and never get a ring,he is to good to play in a podunk town like Portland who will be kicking his ass
by southern oregon on Nov 26, 2008 9:57 PM PST reply actions
Homerism
We’re dealing with a player who has potential to be a top 5 player of all time… I don’t think any trade is rejected in a heartbeat…
This homer hopes
The King Himself never gets a ring and never wears Black and Red
by southern oregon on Nov 26, 2008 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
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