Tuesday Practice Report
Whole lot of commotion over at the practice facility today; everyone and his grandmother was there today. Practice opened at about noon with word that much of the morning was spent in a film session. I'm sure there was a looooot of film to look at from last night.
Right as we entered, the team broke into free throws and post-practice work (wings take jumpers, big guys work on drop steps, etc.) and again we watched Greg, under the guidance of Coach Dean, go hard through an array of post moves -- catches, turns, drop steps, jump hooks, the whole gamut. He looked confident and focused... and pretty smooth. Of course, no one was guarding him. But the talent is there. You can touch it. This leads one to the conclusion that Greg's inability to consistently translate those skills to the court is due to one of two things: 1) it's mental or 2) he is just that unfamiliar with NBA game speed. I wish we had seen some full court scrimmage so I could try to get a read on point 2. But, alas, that's not how it works.
As to the question about whether it's mental with Greg, I turned to Chis Bowles, Blazers Director of Player Programs, who not only works closely with the players on a regular basis but is adept at reading people and situations thanks to his background in communications. After last night, and weeks of talk about Greg, I put the question pretty simply to Chris: Are you worried about Greg? Should Blazers fans be worried about Greg?
Chris is a straight talker. You might remember that from the 72,000 word interview from last Spring. He doesn't mince words. He has no time for beating around bushes. His response to my question: a flat "no." No's do not get much flatter. Chris pointed at the game against Golden State as evidence that Greg has already realized potential on the NBA floor and that his struggles are, if not expected, part of the growth process.
I asked a few questions about Greg's body language and how he seems to zone out a bit. Chris said he didn't see it last night but acknowledged that Greg is very hard on himself. He said that Greg hasn't sought him out for any help and that their conversations are the same as they've always been.
Chris did acknowledge that Greg does hear the criticism -- whether it's from white sportswriters or African-American rappers. I asked him if Greg might take to heart criticism from someone like Lil Wayne more than he would criticism from someone like me. Chris flatly rejected the question's premise based on the unimportance of Lil Wayne. He then let on that some members of the team think that he's a Lil Wayne hater but he just doesn't see how Weezy stacks up to NWA, Public Enemy and the like.
Music criticism aside, Chris's focus was on the future: where will Greg be in ten years? Where will his critics be? Those were the important questions to Chris. I can say this: I didn't detect a shred of doubt in Chris about where Greg will be in 10 years -- on top of the game.
After the extra post work, there was also this from Greg, a posed picture with a young Iraqi child in town receiving health treatment. I think you'll agree that it's good to see Greg smiling.
Last but not least I give you this picture of a Spanish journalist "interviewing" Sergio and Rudy.
Before practice, the guy was pacing around the waiting room nervously. Then, upon first seeing Rudy he let out an extended, audible giggle. To my knowledge, no trade demands were made during the course of this "interview."
Also, enjoy the back of the well-coiffed Ric Bucher's head.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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Thank you Ben
I never get pictures of Rudy :(
Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez
by twiggs on
Nov 25, 2008 1:39 PM PST
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From the bushes?
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by hobobob on
Nov 25, 2008 1:54 PM PST
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Only a hobo could think like that. Well done.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
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Nov 25, 2008 2:11 PM PST
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no batman write up either.
im dissapointed, this post gets 2 stars out of four,
BAD FORM
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
by BlazerFan1 on
Nov 25, 2008 2:12 PM PST
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well here’s a vignette for you…
as you saw in the picture there were a number of wheelchair bound people of all ages at practice today. batum had left the court after practice and then came back, said something to them, then ran over and grabbed the rim for no real reason, i guess just to show them that he could. then he smiled at them and went back to the locker room. they all had big smiles on their faces.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 2:17 PM PST
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melting ice cube surrounding myblack heart
that is a GREAT story
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
by BlazerFan1 on
Nov 25, 2008 2:33 PM PST
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Do you stick ice cubes around your heart a lot?
Is it a medical condition?
by zaruga on
Nov 25, 2008 5:53 PM PST
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Love that story.
It’s easy to forget that he is a really young kid… in a foreign country.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on
Nov 25, 2008 2:55 PM PST
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Come On Batum
Why couldn’t you throw down for the sick kid? Outlaw? Roy?
Someone give this kid something to remember.
Congratulations. Nate McMillan has Sergio defending !
by TheGreatDane17 on
Nov 25, 2008 3:43 PM PST
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So Batum was talking to some people in wheelchairs who obviously feel down about their
lack of mobility and then he goes and shows them that not only do chicks like Sophia that he doesnt even know dig him but that he can also do what they may never be able to do. Wow sounds like a nice guy.
by tevisthe4th on
Nov 25, 2008 4:23 PM PST
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although on second thought having chicks like Sophia digging you might be as
debilitating as being in a wheelchair.
by tevisthe4th on
Nov 25, 2008 4:24 PM PST
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sad :(
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
by BlazerFan1 on
Nov 25, 2008 4:31 PM PST
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yeh that was a cheap shot
That is really hideous
--jscot
by prezofdeath on
Nov 25, 2008 5:12 PM PST
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Wow...
Ripping on Batum for making kids in wheelchairs smile.
Classy.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on
Nov 25, 2008 4:46 PM PST
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Not ripping
But he could have done more then a rim touch.
Show me a 360 dunk.
Congratulations. Nate McMillan has Sergio defending !
by TheGreatDane17 on
Nov 25, 2008 5:06 PM PST
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I was replying to tevis.
Who felt Batum was making fun of the disabled children.
honor rasheed wallace
by Cablinasian on
Nov 25, 2008 5:18 PM PST
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I admit I had that thought for a second, too
But then again, people in wheelchairs can a) be fantastic athletes themselves and b) deliberately seek out sporting events such as soccer and basketball, so I suppose they probably enjoy watching someone dunking/jumping out of the gym like the rest of us.
"For such a dumb kid, you've got a pretty smart mouth."
by Norsktroll on
Nov 25, 2008 4:53 PM PST
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how do they say it here "sarcastic joking font for above comments"
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Nov 25, 2008 4:53 PM PST
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Seemed obvious
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by iDea on
Nov 25, 2008 6:19 PM PST
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I just want to give Greg a Big Ol' hug and tell him that everything will be ok
Maybe he needs a little snuggle time with McLovin’
I'm a little confused by your tactics
by oderiferous emanations 74 on
Nov 25, 2008 1:40 PM PST
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That's awesome
that’s really a 100 lb dog.
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by iDea on
Nov 25, 2008 6:19 PM PST
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I hear you can ride that dog like a horse.
That’s how big Greg is.
by zaruga on
Nov 25, 2008 6:26 PM PST
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I actually said the same thing earlier today. I feel for him a lot.
by BRoyInThe4th on
Nov 25, 2008 8:01 PM PST
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yeah . . it's gotta be a hard place
so young…never done much ‘cept play ball I’m sure…everybody wants to bask in the glory of what he is supposed to be and do…and he has likely never had time to think about who he IS yet…
pro athlete life is tricky business — never know who is on your side (answer – next to no one) and the people who really know you – or knew you — all assume everything is great and someone else must have your back…
by LetsBlaze on
Nov 25, 2008 8:10 PM PST
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What is Rudy looking at?
Thanks Ben!
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on
Nov 25, 2008 1:44 PM PST
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Looks like
Sergio popped a chubby.
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by iDea on
Nov 25, 2008 2:11 PM PST
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Nobody agrees?
Look at the picture…….I think Rudy sees what’s going on and is laughing.
It also explains the bro hug. You know, with the butt out.
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by iDea on
Nov 25, 2008 3:16 PM PST
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Ben you're my hero!
A journalist who actually USES the semi-colon instead of the comma when appropriate, avoiding a comma splice!
Hallelujah!
Whole lot of commotion over at the practice facility today; everyone and his grandmother was there today.
That is really hideous
--jscot
by prezofdeath on
Nov 25, 2008 1:45 PM PST
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Of course
he left off the first part of that sentence (“There was…”) and used “today” twice…if you want criticism you don’t have to look too far around here. :)
"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan
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Nov 25, 2008 3:16 PM PST
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er
“There was a…”
"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan
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Nov 25, 2008 3:16 PM PST
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But not
by better people!
"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan
by jamon51 on
Nov 25, 2008 3:18 PM PST
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where are you guys gonna party next?
sounds like a fun crew to hang out with…
by broyposse on
Nov 25, 2008 3:27 PM PST
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mcfaddens next game day for pre funk
I come here to meet chicks...
by BlazermaniacAndy on
Nov 25, 2008 4:44 PM PST
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I once heard a song sung by the natives in the hils of Tegusigalpa.
that spoke of a greater sentence. But it is legend.
by zaruga on
Nov 25, 2008 6:01 PM PST
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yeh but hey
just to see you trying warmed my heart.
That is really hideous
--jscot
by prezofdeath on
Nov 25, 2008 3:29 PM PST
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I don't like grammar police, they are annoying.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on
Nov 26, 2008 12:02 AM PST
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Yeah
That was the whole point of my comment, I really don’t mind grammar police at all.
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
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Nov 26, 2008 2:25 PM PST
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Greg's Enormous Potential
I’ve been a Joel P. advocate for three years, and I still think he needs to start. However, Greg Oden should never think that this is a knock on him. I think Greg Oden is an incredible athlete and a fine human being who has a great sense of humor, compassion, a mature world view, and the capacity to be an NBA Hall of Fame member. It’s just too danged early for him to start right now.
I think Nate using Greg in stretches, building up his legs and wind, and allowing him to get his first personal view of the armpits of the NBA’s elite, is the way to properly school him. Then, ladies and gents, look out, because Oden is going to rock the league.
This year, however, Joel P. is the guy to start with, a person Greg can learn from, compete against in practice, and eventually surpass in muntes. No freakin rush is necessary. Greg, have a Happy Thanksgiving, and make sure McLovin gets some turkey.
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on
Nov 25, 2008 1:46 PM PST
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My sentiments
exactly +1
If you have nothing constructive to say about someone, I prefer that you say nothing at all.
"If Jumping to conclusions, Kicking others when they do not do well and Launching into senseless tirades were Olympic Events, some people around here would be Medal Contenders". Me
by coastrider on
Nov 25, 2008 5:52 PM PST
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eek i just updated the post and i think i lost some comments by doing that… sorry if yours was deleted? not sure what happened.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 1:51 PM PST
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Why can't Oden just be nervous?
Why does it have to be “mental” or “game speed?” If I thought long enough, I could come up with other reasons why Oden in practice doesn’t equate to Oden in an NBA game.
I think people are trying to read too much into every little thing Greg Oden does.
by tominhawaii on
Nov 25, 2008 1:52 PM PST
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i hear what you’re saying. if i didn’t think something was off with greg, i wouldn’t be following this. i gave him the benefit of the doubt during training camp and exhibition season when he simply wasn’t enthused or the like. something is different right now. i don’t know what it is. but i think it’s worth looking at because it is unusual for an nba player.
as for nerves, it’s been my experience that players, especially those of greg’s caliber, play themselves out of nerves within a few minutes. if greg is dealing with nerves right now it’s the worst case of nerves from a good player that i’ve seen.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 1:56 PM PST
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You ever see a player come in with hype like him
then miss a whole year? Then get hurt the first game back? Ever see player with an easy going attitude like him expected to save a franchise? Ever seen a first pick apologize for having surgery?
Greg’s going to bring us a lot of firsts. He’s not ordinary. I think that’s sort of the point. Every rookie struggles. They’re learning to do something against the best players in the world. It’s just going to take a while, and that’s scary when you’ve got something to lose (re: saving a franchise, hero status). Greg’s maybe struggling a little more or in a different way. He’s a different kind of guy, though.
I’m not saying your off bsae for reporting on it, but it’s not worrisome. Given the difference in his character, and the position he’s in socially, monetarily and emotionally, he’s not hadnling this in that bad of a way.
I hoped he’d be averaging 20 ppg, 10 rbs and smiling while dunking on Shaq and Yao by now. Maybe he did too. Maybe he just knows I hoped that and is sad because he thinks he’s dissappointing me. Any which way, he’ll do it, I’ll be happy, and Greg will too. In three years.
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by hobobob on
Nov 25, 2008 2:05 PM PST
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i understand full well that greg is not ordinary.
my spidey senses tell me that something is up. whether its cause for real concern is not for me to answer, but it’s for me to look at from as many sides as possible.
as i’ve written i like a lot of what greg has done on the court. i like his work ethic. i’m not demanding that he succeed today. i am interested in how he’s feeling because confidence is a big deal to him. when he turns the corner (tomorrow, in a week, in a month, in 3 months), i want to be able to say authoritatively “things are different now with Greg and he is succeeding for these reasons ………..” i can’t do that without looking at Greg now.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 2:13 PM PST
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Very well explained
Plus there’s much to be said for reading a person in person. That’s a feel none of us can get. We’ll have to trust you. Don’t betray us Ben. I’ve been hurt before.
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by hobobob on
Nov 25, 2008 2:15 PM PST
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there’s much to be said for reading a person in person
indeed. keep in mind this is my first look at greg in weeks. they’ve been on the road so much. so there is a pure curiosity factor to it as well. i’d be lying if i said there wasn’t.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 2:18 PM PST
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Hey Ben,
How much of Oden’s slow development do you think can be due to the fat that Luc has not been with the team and on a corollary, is there any timetable on when he may come back and teach Greg how to kill everyone on the court?
"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speed bag." - Bill Simmons 6/26/08
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Nov 25, 2008 1:53 PM PST
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i asked around a little bit about this too. the impression that i got from a few people was that luke’s absence is not as big an issue as you might think. the coaching staff is a team just like the players. they pick up the slack if one goes down. if they thought there was a meaningful detrimental effect upon greg by not having luke there, knowing the organization, it’s resources, and it’s support for greg, i think you would see them taking action.
will the team look for additional help in the future for greg, with or without lucas? it seems like that’s a good possibility.
haven’t heard word on a timetable about coach lucas. sorry. when it comes to things like that i tend to take a strictly hands off approach — i’d rather give coach his privacy than ask the question. i know others disagree with that stance.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 2:01 PM PST
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Slow? How's this slow? He's played less games than I have fingers.
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by hobobob on
Nov 25, 2008 2:07 PM PST
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BUT I WANT 60P, 35R, 25 BLK, 30AST
AND HIM MANNING THE T-SHIRT GUN DURING TIMEOUTS!!!!
WHEN WILL HE GET TO THAT LEVEL??
"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speed bag." - Bill Simmons 6/26/08
by SpyderRyder on
Nov 25, 2008 2:10 PM PST
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Give it three more games
If it hasn’t happened by then, I’ll take over the gun duties. That should help ease the pressue.
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Nov 25, 2008 2:12 PM PST
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Awful Report
Ben,
Seriously, why are you being such a jerk? Why are you analyzing every non-smile, every wink, every slumping shoulders, every waking moves Oden makes? Last night was just one game. It’s gonna be a long process. He will have great games. However, at this point, he is gonna struggle more than we fans would like.
You calling attention to his “body language” on a given game or night is totally overreacting on your part. Just chill with the obsession of Oden. Its not going to happen overnight.
by Balian on
Nov 25, 2008 1:54 PM PST
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Are you serious?
A jerk? Seemed to me like Ben was asking the questions that everyone was asking and the he got exactly the responses we were hoping for.
What a silly comment.
"I like blocks," Fernandez said.
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Nov 25, 2008 1:56 PM PST
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I think that was a fair and interesting question for Ben to pose at an otherwise uneventful training session
Especially to someone whose job it is to act as a liaison between the players and the team (management) and help them transition into the life of a professional player.
As stated in the “media row report” post, I agree that we shouldn’t over-analyze Greg or claim to be able to understand his mind from afar, but that’s what I would want to hear from the people around him who supposedly know him better and are there to support him in his development.
"For such a dumb kid, you've got a pretty smart mouth."
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Nov 25, 2008 2:02 PM PST
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In the words of Stephanie Tanner
" How Roood"
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
by BlazerFan1 on
Nov 25, 2008 2:13 PM PST
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In the words of Jar Jar Binks
How wude!
That is really hideous
--jscot
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Nov 25, 2008 2:33 PM PST
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Granted
Calling Ben a jerk is a little of bounds. I am being too personal and I apologize to Ben for that.
I just sick and tired of this anal examination of Oden’s every move. The guy is a kid. Give him a break already. The hype is maddening as is.
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Nov 25, 2008 3:18 PM PST
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What do you want then?
All I’m saying is the dude was there, and he’s sharing his observations with us in his blog. If he thinks he sees something in Oden’s body language or facial expression, then it should go in there. Doesn’t necessarily make it true. Greg was a no.1 pick with huge expectations. He’s a big boy and I think he can handle it. I want to know as much as I can get my hands on.
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Nov 25, 2008 3:27 PM PST
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Better report
Would this be better.
“Went to practice today. Greg Oden was there. He practiced basketball.”
You can just copy and paste that, Ben. Gratis.
by Jumbo on
Nov 25, 2008 4:23 PM PST
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I'm using this on my next book report
Not sure when that will be, since I’ve been out of school for 13 years.
by zaruga on
Nov 25, 2008 6:40 PM PST
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i get it :)
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
by BlazerFan1 on
Nov 25, 2008 4:31 PM PST
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Balian is like that
does this on other forums too.
Blazer's fan since '84, Currently exiled in San Antonio
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
by HurraKane212 on
Nov 25, 2008 2:21 PM PST
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The J word is out line unless
you are talking about someone named Bennet or Marbury ect
by southern oregon on
Nov 25, 2008 2:23 PM PST
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Jumpshooter?
Jet fighter pilot?
"Now with a non-provocative footer!"
by timbo on
Nov 25, 2008 3:47 PM PST
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I meant to say
I dont like you calling Ben a jerk,jerk
by southern oregon on
Nov 25, 2008 3:51 PM PST
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Good point
Everyone should just chill out.
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on
Nov 26, 2008 11:19 AM PST
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Yes
Oden is already overburdened with the hype/press enough. He does not need another blogger to report on every sad face and bodily gesture he makes in practices and games.
by Balian on
Nov 25, 2008 1:59 PM PST
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thanks for the feedback. i was searching for answers today. i think i got some good ones. not sure why you’re so mad.
overanalysis is a big part of what we do here at blazers edge. it’s not going anywhere. greg is not the only one we look at in hyper detail. so i fear that i might continue to make you angry if that’s your stance. you’ve been warned.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 2:04 PM PST
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You can hyper analyze me anytime
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
by hobobob on
Nov 25, 2008 2:13 PM PST
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lol
that’s a blogger pick up line if i’ve ever heard one
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 2:15 PM PST
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and a good one at that!
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
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Nov 25, 2008 2:16 PM PST
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Keep up the great work Ben.
There is absolutely no better source of information for the day to day update of the Blazers. We can all come here voluntarily and decide if we agree or disagree with everything we read, but at least there’s this great forum to come together and do it. Thanks for the hard work.
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Nov 25, 2008 2:14 PM PST
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I Understand
Yes, it’s your job to be observant and analytical; they, then have you neglected to comment on the length of Greg’s nose hairs? It seems to me that the airways of a superstar are a highly relevant topoic for a truly dedicated sports scribe. Is it because you don’t love basketbal?
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on
Nov 26, 2008 11:21 AM PST
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I actually agree with Balian
Oden’s problem is that everyone is analyzing everything. I’m suprised nobody has commented on his HUGE bowel movements.
Instead of just going out and playing, he’s now worrying about whether he’s smiling enough, whether he looked excited enough after a dunk and whether or not his shoulders slumped forward after every turnover.
Let’s please let the kid breathe, there are 14 other players on this team. How are they today?
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by iDea on
Nov 25, 2008 2:19 PM PST
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I should also so
I don’t agree with him, that Ben’s a jerk.
Ben seems like a cool guy.
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by iDea on
Nov 25, 2008 2:23 PM PST
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15 players, 15 thoughts…
1. brandon and brian hendrickson were remembering back to last year when iverson hit a buzzer beater against us.
2. lamarcus threw down a dunk during one of his cool down drills that had the odor of frustration on it.
3. sergio was in very, very good spirits. maybe it was the spanish reporter that had him so happy?
4. travis was loosening himself up a little bit. i guess he got dinged. as far as i know he’s a go for tomorrow.
5. blake — sorry i’ve got nothing for you today.
6. rudy is a happy go lucky guy. he’s got some mischeviousness to him, you can just sense it. he’s also floating around like he’s on a happy bubble.
7. martell spent a good bit of time talking to casey today. i’d check casey’s blog later for the full report on his status. he was dancing with coach monty. he’s itching to play.
8. batum — read the dunk vignette above.
9. raef — MIA
10. joel — i’ve got nothing today sorry.
11. bayless — had a chat with coach nate after practice. strikes me as the kind of guy that would want to get an a+ with extra credit when it comes to film sessions.
12. ike — nothing from today but he was rocking some nice ASU bball shorts last night. really sick.
13. shavlik — was the last man standing on the court today. shooting jumpers. dude has a knuckleball release though. the ball rotates over 130 rather than over noon.
14. frye — read his blog today. it’s funny.
15. greg — NO MORE!!!!
bonus:
KP was in sweat pants today. you don’t see that very often.
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Nov 25, 2008 2:28 PM PST
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Bastard
I was at that Denver game last year. Iverson made me mad, but Jack had me in tears.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on
Nov 25, 2008 2:31 PM PST
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lol
that game really sucked.
brandon remembered it vividly. down to the minutest detail. that tells you something about brandon’s competitiveness.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 2:34 PM PST
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If I have Jack's fast-break turnover etched in my head from the tv
I’d hate to imagine how well etched it is in Brandon’s head when seeing it live.
That was the day they started falling back to .500
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Nov 25, 2008 2:35 PM PST
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I was sitting courtside!
:((((((((( worst night of my life. In Jack’s defense, b4 overtime, Martell was fouled on a 3 pt attempt and he made 1 of 3. Travis had 2 free throws w/ under a minute of regulation and missed 1. Jack’s turnover was unforced and stupid x1000 but we should not have been there in the first place. It was depressing, Iverson hit that shot right in front of my stricken face…
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
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Nov 25, 2008 2:41 PM PST
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Frye's Blog
Larping. Who knew?
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
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Nov 25, 2008 3:39 PM PST
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Greg just needs time to develop and get accustomed to the NBA game
I hate use a football analogy but I think Greg’s year will resemble Patriot QB Matt Cassel’s first year as a starter. Cassel was put over the coals by everyone in the media in the beginning, including that horse faced jerk named Sterling Sharpe, but what did you expect for a guy who spent sitting on the bench behind Tom Brady? All the so called experts totally wrote the guy off.
Now that Cassel’s gotten used to the speed in the pros he thrown for back to back 400+ games. Greg’s a work in process, he’s only going to get better with more pt. Enjoy the ride, it’s the journey not the destination you should be paying attention to.
"I love lamp" - Rudy Fernandez
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on
Nov 25, 2008 2:00 PM PST
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I Wuv owah widdle wookie Odenn!!! AWWW HOW CUTE
He needs a hug and some time and Ben may not be comfortable or God-ish to provide either so lets just let Oden be for now.
Thanks for the info Big B you are a G.
Sophia
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
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Nov 25, 2008 2:15 PM PST
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We need to read him that bed time story
And tuck him in with some warm milk.
He will be “all better” then
Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez
by twiggs on
Nov 25, 2008 2:40 PM PST
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do you have a picture of the Spanish journalist holding a knife to Nate's throat while he's "interviewing" him?
by Bust a Bucket on
Nov 25, 2008 2:21 PM PST
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LOL
no that one didn’t develop. i’m still getting used to my new camera
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 2:28 PM PST
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so digital cameras still need to be developed? hmmm im detecting a conspiracy
"Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcreaft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. [speech at GOP Presidential Convention 1992] Rev. Pat Robertson
by BlazerFan1 on
Nov 25, 2008 2:35 PM PST
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That's what he's "getting used to"
he’s broken 6 of the dang things already. Ben: DO NOT OPEN UP DIGITAL CAMERAS
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Nov 25, 2008 4:51 PM PST
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develop? what's that?
That is really hideous
--jscot
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Nov 25, 2008 2:35 PM PST
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yeah, what's that "develop" mean
I don’t get it when they say Oden needs time to “develop” his game.
Sounds like a conspiracy and a scam to me. Where the heck is my instant gratification.
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Nov 25, 2008 2:46 PM PST
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Why are people waiting for greg to come to them?
Why aren’t they going to Greg?
or is this being blown out of proportion? I think that’s my next question.
There either isn’t a problem with Greg’s attitude and it’s blown out, or the Blazers aren’t paying attention to it. Sounds like there’s no issue, but I’d have like to have heard that confirmed.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on
Nov 25, 2008 2:23 PM PST
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another option is they don’t want to talk about it publicly.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 2:29 PM PST
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is the Henchman back in town?
That should get Canzano fired up if they brought in Patterson’s PR specialist who knows how to handle the local media on touchy subjects.
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Nov 25, 2008 2:48 PM PST
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Ah
another good point I hadn’t thought about.
Although there’s another post where it was brought up that people handle things differently and THEY will stare off into space as they digest and they would react in the same manner. It’s possible that this is just how greg reacts and it isn’t a big deal.
I’m going to let it go for now me thinks. Frankly Greg is doing a great job considering the obstacles and rust. I agree he needs more fire, but I think that’ll come when he he’s able to dominate more and that will come when he can move the way his body remembers moving and is able to adapt that to the speed of the NBA game.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on
Nov 25, 2008 2:57 PM PST
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tomorrow night is another great opportunity for greg to get out there and “dominate” like coach has talked about. can’t wait.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 2:58 PM PST
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Yeah, Miami's best "center" is who, 6-8 Udonis Haslem?
Blount is another “shooting-from-outside” power forward disguising as a center (Greg obviously had some problems against Miller and Hawes, but Blount doesn’t play more than 10 minutes and is worse than them). And Magloire would be an aging one-time All-Star if he were not injured anyway. Greg should be confident in that game knowing he is the biggest baddest big man out there.
"For such a dumb kid, you've got a pretty smart mouth."
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Nov 25, 2008 3:05 PM PST
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Your comments seem like your hinting that Greg might have somthing physically wrong with him.
Is that a possibility?
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Nov 25, 2008 4:41 PM PST
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anything is possible, but I doubt it's physical
they wouldn’t have him playing if something physical was wrong. you can’t hide that for very long, and it wouldn’t make sense.
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Nov 25, 2008 4:44 PM PST
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of course, I'm sure some philosophers here may say the "between the ears" is physical
the brain is physical. so yeah, it’s something physical in that sense.
by Bust a Bucket on
Nov 25, 2008 4:45 PM PST
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Well then be happy oden we love you
alls we want is to tell you our christmas wish lists while we sit on you knee,( the non microfracture surgery one ) drink hot chocolate, and have you scruff our hair with your big paws and tell us were gonna get playoffs for christmas.
by tevisthe4th on
Nov 25, 2008 4:49 PM PST
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i havent seen anything physically wrong with him.
like i said during practice today he looked smooth and strong.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 4:46 PM PST
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Everyone back off the ledge!!!!!!
I know that it is hard to remember. but G.O. is a ROOKIE who has just a handful of games under his belt. DEEP BREATH EVERYONE! I can’t remember Clyde putting up 25p 8r 6a in his first month of his career, but I think that everyone can agree that he didn’t turn out to be too bad. Yes, Greg is struggling, and yes we are all looonng past due for something besides hope for the future to celebrate, but we will see it THIS SEASON.
The thing I am most concerned is that Greg has put so much burden on his shoulders that he is not having fun. That has to change. So I think that everyone (GO included) should lighten up, and enjoy the first few miles of what is going to be a long, fulfilling, and exciting trip.
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix
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Nov 25, 2008 2:25 PM PST
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forget you maaaan
I want my 20/10/5 now! No waiting!
Man if I could tee off Oden’s burdens… I could probably practice my drives all day. I do wish he’d let it go.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
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Nov 25, 2008 2:58 PM PST
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NO! DON'T BACK OFF THE LEDGE!
It’s really getting crowded around here. Too many of the posts and comments ARE NOT MINE. Some people have the nerve to actually disagree with me.
So, if you are in that camp, JUMP! Just go ahead and do it! If you are on the ledge, it’s a narrow place, and there’s lots of room in the free air as you float down. Jump, I say, jump!
The rest of us are going to enjoy the growth of this team into a legit playoff team this year, and a dynasty that contends for rings every year from here on. We’ll be ok without you. So JUMP!
The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.
by jscot on
Nov 26, 2008 12:14 AM PST
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Two name, you do the math
Josh McRoberts
Stat Quo
by tominhawaii on
Nov 25, 2008 2:26 PM PST
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Aloha!
Nice to know that I am not the only ravenous Blazerphreak living in Paradise!
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix
by philly420pdxhilo on
Nov 25, 2008 2:31 PM PST
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Howzit Brah
Yeah, I’m in Honolulu.
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Nov 26, 2008 4:23 AM PST
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Nice
I lived in Manoa Valley (across from Obama’s old hangout) about 16 yrs ago, but now I am kicking it on the Big Island…I am getting to miss Portland more and more after every Blazer win, I must admit. (Not to mention the beer……..)
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix
by philly420pdxhilo on
Nov 26, 2008 10:21 PM PST
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I still got Maggoos/The Varsity
They have lots of good beer.
by tominhawaii on
Nov 27, 2008 6:03 AM PST
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Magoos!?!?!
The pizza joint that used to be in Waikiki? Man back in the day, $40 bucks got you a killer pizza, beer, and a nice bag of ganja delivered right to your door…. ;-)
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix
by philly420pdxhilo on
Nov 27, 2008 1:50 PM PST
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They split up
The bar is now The Varsity and Magoos sells pizza up the street out of a van.
by tominhawaii on
Nov 28, 2008 4:13 AM PST
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Nice. Is there ANYTHING better than pizza out of a van? lol….
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix
by philly420pdxhilo on
Nov 28, 2008 11:51 PM PST
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Greg will be fine
Then he will be great,imagine the hype if NY had got the magic ping pong ball,no wait,stop,dont imagine that
by southern oregon on
Nov 25, 2008 2:29 PM PST
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oh man...
poor greg going to that disaster of a mine field!
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on
Nov 25, 2008 2:59 PM PST
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I'm torn...
On one hand, I agree with Ben that Greg is exhibiting some signs that he is in a less than optimal psychological state. I think that his outlook could be improved with some sort of professional help.
On the other hand, I agree that the attention being paid to his emotional state could actual make the problem worse. I also feel that some of the criticism of his attitude is an overreaction, pure and simple… and that many interpretations of his psychological state are wildly off.
I think there are very few people that would not benefit from professional psychological help, though he might be embarrassed to let it be known that he’s getting it.
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Nov 25, 2008 2:36 PM PST
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One more thing about Greg
I think it’s obvious that a scouting report has gotten around to the rest of the league that says this: “Don’t try to block Oden or push him out of the block — instead, steal the ball out of his hands before he starts shooting.” That’s what’s been happening multiple times per game — it’s probably one of the top priorities for him to work on.
by Kaboomm on
Nov 25, 2008 3:00 PM PST
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Question for ya Ben
Do you know what Ric Bucher is up to? Saw him at the Rockets game, and again last night against the Kings. Both games were not on ESPN, and I haven’t seen any Blazers coverage from him on espn.com.
I wonder if he’s working on a Blazers / player profile story for the Mag. Or possibly working on the book that will eventually become the insider look at the Blazer dynasty.
Thoughts?
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Nov 25, 2008 3:05 PM PST
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probably a mag piece. that would be my guess. this is a good stretch to see the team — game, practice, game, thanksgiving, game — all in the same city. he was talking to oden after practice. he was talking to LMA and BRoy after the game last night. so probably a piece about the whole team i’m guessing. or maybe just on oden. don’t know.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 3:16 PM PST
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If you see it come through
post it on the main page, will ya? I don’t typically read FanShots or FanPosts.
"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan
by jamon51 on
Nov 25, 2008 3:18 PM PST
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another question for ya...
How much do you talk to other journos? Like, I’m sure you chat with the guys you know, but do national guys, local print guys, and blog guys all talk to each other? Or do you just kind of each do your own thing?
Since you guys are on the job, would it be bad form for you to go up to Bucher and start asking him stuff? Is it more workmanlike and you guys are focused on the team and not each other?
Just curious how that works.
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Nov 25, 2008 3:46 PM PST
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i try to bug everyone equally. nah just kidding.
for the most part i try to stay out of their way. they are working.
if an opportunity presents itself i will try to say hi especially if it’s someone whose work i really like. like sam amick last night for example. i read a lot of basketball stuff so it’s fun to meet people that i admire. but it’s not really my place to be doing that and i try not to forget that.
mostly i just like to watch them work. like j.a. adande, dude is earl the pearl smooth. ian thomsen has a calming influence. ric bucher is hollywood.
generally i think sportswriting is pretty collegial and not as cutthroat as i expected. that might just be a portland thing though.
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Nov 25, 2008 3:58 PM PST
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J.A. Adande is a beast
I love that guy. He’s awesome as a writer and even better imo when he does around the horn. So smooth.
That is really hideous
--jscot
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Nov 25, 2008 4:01 PM PST
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Ugh
I guess he’s better than TJ Simmers or Bill Plaschke.
"I love lamp" - Rudy Fernandez
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on
Nov 25, 2008 5:01 PM PST
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J.A. is warming on me
But I hate the way he moves on Around The Horn. It feels like he’s trying to sell me something on an infomercial.
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Nov 26, 2008 4:25 AM PST
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hahahah i was gonna lay off bucher but sean at oregonlive went ahead and called him out….
http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2008/11/notes_from_tuesdays_blazers_pr.html
“Some Spanish media and ESPN The Mag’s Ric Bucher (who spent a good five minutes ripping pages out of some magazine feverishly) joined the usual suspects in the media holding room as we awaited access.”
it was strange for sure.
by Ben. on
Nov 25, 2008 4:13 PM PST
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LOL
yeah, I just read that… hahah!
“ripping pages… feverishly” … that’s great. not sure what that means, but it was done “feverishly”.
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Nov 25, 2008 4:36 PM PST
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Maybe he's one of those page ripping zombies.
Zombism is sort of like being feverish.
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Nov 25, 2008 6:58 PM PST
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Listen to the man, Ben
The Blazers drafted Greg Oden based on his enormous potential and the way his strengths would dovetail with this team’s needs. No one knowledgeable expected that 19-year-old to come into the league and start dominating overnight.
Now, as a 20-year-old coming off microfracture knee surgery and a lost season, GO could be expected to struggle big-time. That’s especially true considering that the other starters have hardly played with him—even in practice.
PATIENCE! The payoff is going to be as huge as GO’s body.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
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Nov 25, 2008 3:08 PM PST
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Personal Trainer
The Blazers should hire a personal trainer, much like Bynum training with Kareem Abdul Jabbar, to teach him the subtle nuances of the game. I believe this would accelerate his progress and provide the confidence to dominate the center position. Who would you try to obtain? If possible, Hakeem Olajuwon? David Robinson? Walton? Maybe even Jabbar if offered an assistant position?
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Nov 25, 2008 3:18 PM PST
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D-Rob would be awesome
He’s a class act and an excellent big man
That is really hideous
--jscot
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Nov 25, 2008 3:30 PM PST
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I third this notion
DRob would be an awesome big man assistant.
KP probably has an in with him, let’s get it done.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
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Nov 25, 2008 3:34 PM PST
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Karl Malone
Paul Allen can buy out the Mailman’s trucking company and #32 can start showing GO all the tricks of the trade
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Nov 26, 2008 12:08 PM PST
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CAPTION CONTEST HERE FOR THE SPANISH PIC ABOVE:
Here’s mine:
Rudy “Ohhh Heyyy, I want some of that, no?”
The guy in front of Greg in the background: “dude, i got into the practice facility and gonna steal me this ball!”
The guy in the back of Greg in the middle of the court: “Is this the YMCA? Blazer’s practice here?”
by broyposse on
Nov 25, 2008 3:24 PM PST
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what you win:
Michael Holton says “A caption contest”
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Nov 25, 2008 3:24 PM PST
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ehh boy
That is really hideous
--jscot
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Nov 25, 2008 3:30 PM PST
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come prez...
you know you love holtonisms
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Nov 25, 2008 3:35 PM PST
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the guy in front of greg with the ball is chris bowles…. lol come on man don’t do that to me.
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Nov 25, 2008 3:26 PM PST
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ooops...
then i change my caption to “i’m chris bowles, and i’m gonna steal this ball cuz no one gonna know except that fool Ric Bucher who’s giving me the "just cuz you lookin down while dribbling doesn’t mean i won’t rat you out” look…."
i dig your wit Ben. best blogger. period.
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I thought the guy on Oden's right
was Rudy sporting an amazing mustache!!!!
Now I’m disappointed that it wasn’t him as I was hoping to see it in person tomorrow:)
I didn't mean to turn you on
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Nov 25, 2008 3:34 PM PST
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Awwwwwww,

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on
Nov 25, 2008 5:59 PM PST
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Oden
Glad to read encouraging words about Oden. I wish Oden would calm down and play his game- easier said than done.
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Nov 25, 2008 6:05 PM PST
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Faulty Conclusion
So by watching Oden doing a light workout with coach Dean you come to the conclusion that Oden is a skilled and talented player who’s inconsistency is due to only one of two things? Sorry but IMO it’s not that simple. With Oden, it could be youth, age, recovery, inexperience, confidence, exposure…pick em, match em, sort em, choose a little from column A and Column B. Why do we have to go over this time and time again? Greg’s a 20 year old rookie who hasn’t played for over a year, coming off of micro. Why is anyone suprised. Could we just step back and let the kid develop?
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
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Nov 25, 2008 8:55 PM PST
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No. We've been patient almost two whole weeks now!
Even if Greg is playing twice as good as he is now, even if he is really, really good, the window is still not open. The Blazers are still the 2nd youngest team in the league, with three rookies in the regular rotation.
They are not championship ready. If Oden was at the top of his game this team would be lucky to get a 7th or 8th seed. Getting past the first round would be a miracle.
The Oden second guessing and the trade frenzy is nuts.
Even though Oden was hyped, maybe excessively, no one in the organization was pretending the window would be open this year or next year.
Relax, enjoy the ride. Watch the games to see what happens next.
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Nov 25, 2008 9:24 PM PST
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