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The Quality Pie Sked: Update #2

 

Back when the schedule first came out, I divvied it up into several Chunks, picking out stretches of games that seemed to have a pattern to them. 

Well, the second chunk has just come to an end, so it's time for the second Chunk review, where I note the performance of that section and identify the next Chunk. (The first chunk update can be found here).

First, here's what I had to say in the last update, in looking forward to this now-completed chunk (W/L results added next to games):

 

THE LOOK FORWARD:

10 - @Magic: WIN
12 - @Miami: WIN
14 - @ N.O.: Narrow LOSS
15 - @Minny: Narrow WIN
18 - @GS: our first UPSET of the year
19 - Bulls [ESPN]: BEST BEATDOWN SINCE LAST SEASON'S HOME CLOSER AGAINST MEMPHIS
21 - @Sac: WIN
22 - @PHX: LOSS

Record of opponents as of right now: 24-26

Here comes the road. Oden will return sometime during this stretch. The story will be three questions:

1) Did we learn to win on the road? (Particular games: All but Bulls)

Yes we did. Road record before this chunk: 0-3. During this chunk: 4-3.

2) How did we do in games that are harder than beating 1-win teams (Spoors, TimberPuppies) at home, but not as hard as visiting the three strongest teams in the conference as of right now (recent history aside)? We got ONE game in this first 6-game chunk in this category, and we won it - but barely, and at home. Coming up, we get more games against teams better than Minnie/Sandy Auntie, but not as good as La-La, Utah, Phoenix, and Houston. Also, teams maybe about as good as the Spoors and TimberPuppies, but in THEIR building instead of ours. (Particular games: Bulls, Miami Lukewarmth, Pyrite State Worriers, Sac O' Mentos.) That's a level of play we fall somewhere in; now's the time to find out if we're at the bottom, middle, or top. Or: Can we beat teams that are about as good as us? (We're 1-for-1 on that so far.)

4-1 in the games I mentioned. Aside from the Pyrite State game, losses were like the previous chunk's ones: To established powers (Hornets, Suns), in their house. BUT, with far better performances than in the first chunk's debacles in Phoenix and La-La; instead, we had two games that looked a lot like that Utah game.

3) How did we manage Oden's return? (Particular games: Whichever ones he plays in.)Of course, the far end of the window for his likely return is just after this Chunk ends, so he may not come back. But if so, then THAT will be part of the way this Chunk ends up being defined: He might've come back, but he didn't. So return or not, the issue will define this Chunk.

He came back, had a weak first outing against Miami, and has been nothing but ahead-of-the-recovery-curve progress since then. 

So all three general questions were answered with great satisfaction. YEAH!

Additional question of interest, but more as a stand-alone event than part of the overall nature of this Chunk: Do we play better in our November 22 return to Phoenix (especially if we have Oden this time, which we should)?

Yes we did. We still lost, but we're no longer the pushover we were in season games #1 and #3. Again, it looks more like the Utah game.

Aside from those issues addressed from the look forward, here's the breakdown:

Chunk record: 5-3
Record before: 3-3
Overall record: 8-6

I think the review of the questions going in cover it all: We learned to win on the road, we won most games where there was no favorite, Oden truly walks among us (for GOOD this time!), and our losses to better teams are no longer wipeouts. We both cemented the improvement we had between games 1 and 6, and added new improvements on top of that.  We're now fully removed from where we were after 3 games, and in a whole new world of not-THE-best, but well better than average, and consistently so: It feels like we'll never be average again, much less "bad".
________________

And now, the look ahead:

24 - Sac
26 - Miami
28 - N.O.
30 - @Detroit
Dec. 2 - @Nix
3 - @DC
5 - @Celts [ESPN]
7 - @TO
9 - Magic
11 - @Utah [TNT]
12 - Clips

Originally, I lumped all three chunks (the opening 6, this completed 8-game stretch with 7 road games, and this finale of the trilogy) into one massive chunk, which I described thusly:

BRUTAL START
9 home, 16 road
7 travel back-to-backs

Two-thirds of the way through that massive slog, and things feel good. So the storyline is simple: SEAL. THE. DEAL.
The notable thing about this third is its mix of the other two chunks' difficulties: Road games AND top-tier competition, without undue emphasis on either.
Plus, there's the pace; the first two chunks each included multiple days off in a row, whereas this one has only single days off, plus back-to-backs. 11 games in 19 days. 
And more to the point, here's what I put in a reply-to-a-reply in the original posting of my version of the schedule:

That December 12 break, their record should be the worst it’ll be all season.
That “CREAMPUFF” stretch should allow them to recover, adjust, and get calibrated for 
the more consistent homestand/road-trip schedule pattern of the last 46 games.

That January 12 game in Chicago to start that four-game eastern swing
should be considered a sort of Game 1 for that 46-game sub-season.

[snikt]

The main thing is that they handle that creampuff stretch appropriately, take whatever happened in the brutal start
and take the opportunity to learn from it all, and become a new team all over again for after January 11.
This is going to shape where they’re at at season’s end, and what they are positioned to do in the playoffs.
I really don’t care where they’re at on December 13.

Wow. Those highlit phrases to bookend this quote just say it all about how great this good start is. I stand by the opener, if not the closer. Where we're at come the end of this next chunk is the BOTTOM for the rest of the season. Believe it.

Okay! - on to the key things to look for:

1) "We're now fully removed from where we were after 3 games, and in a whole new world of not-THE-best, but well better than average, and consistently so: It feels like we'll never be average again, much less 'bad'.": Can we fulfill that? The task this time isn't further progress, but the avoidance of backsliding.Blazers, just confirm everything you seem to be, but weren't as of November 2. Be competitive against the best (Key games: road games at Detroit, Celtics, Utah), win most of the tossups (at Toronto, home games against Hornets and Magic), and sweep the rest (at DC & Knicks, home for Sac, Heat, and Clips).

2) As I alluded to, the chunk AFTER this one is the one I labeled this way:

CREAMPUFF
9 of 11 at home in 30 days
2 home games in 10 days to start

The real danger during this chunk is that we look forward to this soft part of the schedule (especially that "2 home games in 10 days to start") as our BRUTAL START winds to a close: Do we take our eye off the ball near the end? (Key games: The last 3 in 4 days, after the eastern road trip ends.) This is the equivalent of getting outscored massively at the end of the first half, getting caught looking forward to halftime.

3) Come December 12, how is Martell doing? I expect a return date to be identified by then; dream case scenario, he's back right around then. More likely, we start looking forward to his return.

4) How's Quality Pie doing? Let's just say things are changing at this end of the wire. My status in relation to both The Bedge and the Blazers is poised to change a heckuvalot (a good-news/bad-news picture if ever there was one); by December 12, I'll probably be more open about that. But not now. 

(Next update: December 13)

Go Blazers.

 

 

 

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I got to say though, I think another thing we should look at here is how we perform in big national tv games. So far, we’ve been kind of uneven. I don’t want to see us come out slow in Boston, especially after two hopefully easy games against the Knicks and the Wizards.

I think question three could use a little more fleshing out, specifically how does the team react to a potential Webster return? Does Batum start pushing his limits and making mistakes to try and protect his minutes? Or does he withdraw and become less effective as he resigns himself to a reduced role?

by usdblazerfan on Nov 23, 2008 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

On the first part, I think that's just the big-game thing.

When I said “Be competitive against the best (Key games: road games at Detroit, Celtics, Utah)”, those three games
include the two nationally televised games (did more get added, like the Miami game was? my TV notes are months old).
Totally agree with you about those, but the big-game note covers that.

What IS cool is that most times, when the Blazers play a top-tier opponent this season, it goes nationwide.
Big Game = National TV for us now. WOOT!

And for the Martell thing, more likely he’ll actually return sometime during the following chunk, “CREAMPUFF”.
I fully intend for that to get “a little more fleshing out, specifically how does the team
react to a potential Webster return” treatment in the December 12 update.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 23, 2008 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here, but I thought that was a cleared-to-play date.

Like, cleared to play full-contact 5-on-5.

If so, I’m assuming that he’ll be practicing in that mode for at least a week
before he sees game action, and a week from December 5 is the 12th, the end of this chunk.

Then again, maybe the Dec. 5 date IS the game-action return.
I’m not sure, so I’m just going with 5-on-5 full-contact drills meaning of “return” as a blatant guess.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 23, 2008 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

They're in Boston Dec 5

It’ll be the one game I attend all season, so if ALL OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS fail to inform you, I’ll be there to fill you in.

by rmcdougall on Nov 23, 2008 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I really like your unique spelling style

maid tu rek…

It’s somewhat interesting to see.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 23, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Trust me, no one would ever notice when you're right or when you're wrong spelling like that...
i could be rong, of cours, im rong alot.

"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard

by timbo on Nov 24, 2008 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

as always,

Nice work. I agree that Dec 12 should be our rock bottom for the season — if that’s essentially .500, then we are in GREAT shape!

by kickbrass on Nov 23, 2008 7:02 PM PST reply actions  

I promise you we will NOT be at .500!

Because we will have played an odd number of games.
(Oh – you did say “essentially”.)

Well, this chunk is 11 games, so if we go 5-6, we’ll be 13-12 over all,
and if we go 4-7 in this chunk, we’ll be 12-13 for the season.

So the fifth win in this chunk is the one that secures a winning record going into CREAMPUFF.
(Let me re-emphasize: 9 of 11 at home in 30 days, 2 home games in 10 days to start.)
Clippers, Kings (K-Mart’s not back yet, is he? If he is, he’s rusty), Knicks, Heat, Wizards . . . that’s five.

I like those odds.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 23, 2008 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I say we win at least 6 of this 11 game chunk...

the Blazers have done way better than expected so far and I think they will continue to do better than expected.

Great Post QualityPie! My hat is off to you. I obviously have no idea what you were hinting at near the end of your post but if it means that you will be spending less time here then you will be greatly missed. I hope that what ever it is, that it will be a positive thing for you.

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by LaMarvelous on Nov 23, 2008 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

That depends on the meaning of the word "here".

I’ll be in one “here” a heck of a lot more, and another “here” a whole lot less.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 23, 2008 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

You are being intentionally cryptic which is cool...

but the “here” I was referring to is BEdge.

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by LaMarvelous on Nov 23, 2008 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

for you kp, er, qp,

i hope your HEAR is with the blazers, but for me, i hope its HEAR with us. at any rate, thanks for a wonderful read. my gf reads the BEdge now, and your name iz one ive told her tu allways read.

by maid tu rek on Nov 23, 2008 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

Wow. That is high praise indeed.

Thank you very much.

And “with us” depends on whether or not you’re in Portland.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 23, 2008 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Well done again

Its a small break that the only back to back on this Eastern swing is against the 2 weakest teams

by southern oregon on Nov 23, 2008 7:35 PM PST reply actions  

I always count the home part of a road-home back-to-back as part of the road trip.

That’s why I have this chunk cut off after the December 12 home game against the Paper Clips,
instead of the December 11 game at Utah, like a lot of people do (including Dave, when the schedule came out).

So make that TWO B2B’s: December 2/3, and December 11/12.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 23, 2008 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice job, very entertaining and a good way to look at the season.

"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard

by timbo on Nov 23, 2008 7:43 PM PST reply actions  

Very well done

I’ll be interested to see how your status is changing in relation to the Blazers and Bedge…

Getting called up to back up Dave and Ben? Getting called up to a role in the organization?

Whatever change is on the horizon, good luck.

And yeah, the early start to the season has gone about as well as anybody could’ve reasonably anticipated, especially considering the injuries to two projected starters and the debacle on opening night. We’ll remember this “chunk” as the time when Roy officially became on the premier clutch guys in the league, and the time when we found out that Oden is still a work in progress but WILL definitely be a very good NBA center.

My biggest concern going forward is, what happens if the three-point shooting cools off but the D doesn’t improve? The Blazers have fared well against tough comp, but when the shots aren’t falling, how much of a drop off will there be?

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Nov 23, 2008 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

Ohhhhh, no no no, nothing like that.

I’m just an attendee, same as the rest of you/us.

I’m worried that when the schedule turns kinder, any drop off in performance (like the potential one you mention)
might not translate into losses, at least not at a rate greater than this opening stretch,
and therefore might not get addressed, and then, WHOOMPF! – the end-of-season battle for playoff position,
followed by the actual playoffs themselves, and we get SERIOUSLY smoked.

So, yeah: What if what you mention comes to pass, but we win our way through it?
What THEN?!?

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 23, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point

You never want to be that team (like, for instance, the Wizards and Nuggests the past few years) who’s just good enough to rack up Ws against inferior competition but not quite solid enough not to legitimately contend in the playoffs. The Blazers as currently constituted COULD fall into that category if they don’t continue to evolve individually and collectively.

“Defense wins championships” isn’t just a cliche – it really does, because defensive performance is less eratic from night to night and translates better against elite competition. See Spurs; Celtics; Lakers (this year only). If the D doesn’t improve a LOT, this team isn’t going to enjoy postseason success. Ever.

But I don’t think the front office will let that happen, for two reasons.

One, obviously, they’ve got plenty of smarts. Anything we realize as fans – failures on the defensive end, patterns that won’t continue, styles that don’t translate against elite competition, etc. – they probably already had a meeting about three weeks ago. They have stat guys studying this stuff who could be working for NASA.

Second, the opportunity presented by all that cap space will FORCE them to keep thinking about how to improve the roster. They have to do SOMETHING with all that dough. They’ll have to evaluate where the highest priority improvements are – and I think improving the D will be high on their list.

That cap space, by the way, is one of the most impressive things about the Blazers performance during this difficult “chunk” of the schedule – they’re playing above .500 against tough competition with an active roster getting paid 1/4 what other teams are getting paid. Most of the Blazers cap this year is being spent on Miles/Francis/RLEC. What happens when that evens out because your rookie-scale guys are now vets, and because you spent (either through free agency or trades) all that cap space?

Hopefully, the answer is championships. Time will tell.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Nov 24, 2008 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately

NASA has stat guys studying this stuff who DO work for NASA.

That’s why NASA has decided to have its Rockets shoot more threes, since the EFG% is higher on average.

by rmcdougall on Nov 24, 2008 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't like talking about "chunks"

It’s just not something I usually do. I wish the word “chunk” appeared less frequently in this fanpost.

We cannot put up with this flagrant lack of accountability anymore.

by MT Suit on Nov 23, 2008 9:32 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, chunks is OK...

but hurling and tossing cookies is definitely uncool. :)

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by LaMarvelous on Nov 23, 2008 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

In the first update, a lot of replies seized on the word with unexpected devotion.

So I’ve since emphasized the term by popular demand.

I blame society.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 23, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

rec

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 23, 2008 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, you could also use

Blocks
Nibblets
Sorties
Levels
Hunks
Slices
Loafs
Mini-bites
Novellas
Pancake Stacks
Legs

Koponen - PG of the future. For Italy, that is. Book it.

by Blazerholic on Nov 24, 2008 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if your point is about just the word 'chunk'

But breaking the season into sections is /really/ useful for me.

by rmcdougall on Nov 24, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope your analysis

continues to ring true… The NBA is difficult on the road and in my eyes, the Knicks and Sixers are hardly gimmes. I do have faith, bur still worry this stretch will prove to be what it is…the toughest ever. Remember, 2 of our wins are thanks to Finley missing a close jumper, and the clock guy starting it late for Roy’s epic three. and those were at home. I hope they can continue to prove to me they are at the next level, but frankly, I’m still worried we can lose on any given night.

~Z

"Rudy’s flashy passes had the place whispering to each other like we were in junior high" ~BlazermaniacAndy

by courtsideerrandboy on Nov 23, 2008 10:07 PM PST reply actions  

QP

I’m not up to date on your current status with The Bedge and The Blazers in order to identify any change that transpires at your aforementioned time. Can you bring me up to speed?

by MavetheGreat on Nov 23, 2008 11:21 PM PST reply actions  

I think

That right now, he’s just a very interesting poster. He’s just like any of us, but has interesting things to say.

by rmcdougall on Nov 24, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what his Good News is

But I’m pretty sure the Bad News is that he’s going to become a Laker fan.

by pualo on Nov 24, 2008 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Breaking your chunk down

24 – Sac — we should win
26 – Miami — we should win
28 – N.O. — tough but winnable
30 – @Detroit — not likely, but we’ve got a chance
Dec. 2 – @Nix — should win
3 – @DC — should win
5 – @Celts [ESPN] — not likely. Look for KG to “welcome” Greg enthusiastically.
7 – @TO — not likely, but a chance
9 – Magic — this one may be tough, they’ll feel like they owe us one. Oden v. Howard for the first time.
11 – @Utah [TNT] — not likely, but a chance
12 – Clips — should win

I count five that we should win, but a couple are road games, and you’ll occasionally lose winnable road games. If we get four wins out of these five, we’ve done ok.

I count two home games against very tough teams, each of which has a legit superstar that can single-handedly destroy you. If we win one, we’ve done ok. If we win them both, we’ve established fortress Portland — you don’t want to go there, even the top teams lose there.

Four road games against top quality teams. Good teams will win some games like that. If we win one of the four, we’ve done ok.

Out of the 11, if we win 6, we’ve done ok. Seven or better would be superb. Five wins would not be too bad, and even four would not be a disaster. Most Blazer fans, looking at those first 25 games, would have been thrilled if we ended them 12-13, especially with Martell out and if you knew Greg was going to miss some games.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 23, 2008 11:29 PM PST reply actions  

Well done sir

The wildcards are the injuries around the league and with us (perhaps not us). Those injuries made the Sac game a laugher and they will be better with Mikki Moore back for sure. Take an injury for Paul Pierce and we win in Boston. Take an injury for AI and Detroit has problems scoring. Take an injury for Chris Bosh and the Raptors become almost easy (Jermaine is injured already). But the depth of our team gives us a bit better ability to fill in (example:Webster) than most teams. We can have a winning record and my own estimate is 13-12 or 12-13.

(Note: I am not hoping for any player to be injured)

when you’ve been in a dry land even a little dew looks inviting —Dave
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn." - Tom Landry

by lee3022 on Nov 24, 2008 12:26 AM PST reply actions  

I don't know that Mikki Moore makes Sac more dangerous

if he cuts into Jason Thompson’s minutes. JT looked very very good

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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Nov 24, 2008 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Jason did look rather impressive....

mikki is bigger and stronger…but Jason was pretty excited to be getting some time

by LetsBlaze on Nov 24, 2008 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I still think a big turnaround point is Jan 4 (@Lakers) - 7 Detroit

After that, January is fairly easy and February also looks doable. If there is a big winning streak, it should fall in this timeframe.

by Norsktroll on Nov 24, 2008 4:05 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks QP

These are fantastic. I enjoy this type of evaluation.

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You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

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by SloppyJoe on Nov 24, 2008 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

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