Blazersedge: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
Around SBN: SB Nation NBA Power Rankings for Week 2

Game 14 Preview: Blazers vs. Suns

OK, here’s the question for Blazer fans:  Does the feel-good ride continue or does it all come crashing down tonight?  Part of the uptick we’ve experienced in the last couple of weeks is precisely because we haven’t been playing Western contenders like we did during our first six games.  No doubt the Blazers are more fluid, confident, and better prepared than they were the last time they faced the Suns.  But then again these are still the Suns and good, veteran teams like this have a way of making other teams look less coordinated, confident, and prepared than they otherwise do.  This will be a good test for the Blazers.

 

A Look at the Suns

 

Thirteen games into the season you can say with some confidence that these are not Mike D’Antoni’s Suns any longer.  The single, glorious holdover is that this team still shoots on average better than anyone else in the NBA.  But mostly they’ve normalized the offense, upped the defense, and committed to rebounding.  They try to control the game instead of running you out of it.  They’re taking 9 fewer shots per game this season than they averaged last year and their opponents are taking 7 fewer.  They’re actually 29th in the league in field goal attempts this year.  Quite an adjustment.

 

But it’s a good adjustment.  They’re relying on their frontcourt, including Shaq, to create good scoring opportunities.  Their backcourt blends and facilitates instead of dominating.  Nobody embodies this more than Steve Nash.  His personal stats are way down from last season, causing considerable angst among Suns fans, but his frontcourt is still doing well and his teammates are getting clear looks.  The Suns are winning games without him averaging 20 and 11.  In the short term it looks bad but in the long run they may be better off being able to win without him having to win 20 and 11.

 

One guy who hasn’t suffered from the return to convention in the Valley of the Sun is Amare Stoudemire.  His job is to break down the defense so everybody else can slip through the cracks.  He’s a one-man wrecking crew again this year, averaging 23+ points on 56% shooting.  He’s also pulling down 8.3 boards while Shaq grabs 7.9 per game and small forward Matt Barnes--defensive guru, shooter, and all-around tough guy--nabs 5.9.  Having the starting frontcourt account for 22 rebounds right off the bat shows the change in the Suns’ attitude.

 

Other than that the Suns still carry most of the names you remember.  Raja Bell fills in the fourth starting spot.  Grant Hill, Boris Diaw, and Leandro Barbosa come off the bench.  It’s a solid lineup.  They may not dominate but they’re not going to come close to handing you the game either.  You either take it from them or you don’t get it.

 

As a team the Suns rely on their good shooting and solid defensive rebounding plus a few more foul shots than you to get by.  All of their smalls can shoot the three and you have to watch out for that as well, though they don’t employ it as much as they used to.  They are not without weaknesses.  They get no offensive rebounds.  They turn the ball over way too much for this veteran and talented of a team.  They don’t defend against the three.  You can still get by their smalls on the drive too.

 

Long story short, the Suns are an experiment in cost-benefit analysis right now.  They know what they used to do and it didn’t get them where they wanted to go.  They needed to involve Shaq in order to be successful.  This style accomplishes that.  They’re not going to tan your hide and leave you crying behind the woodshed anymore, but they’re also going to make the playoffs playing this way and they hope to have better success there than they have in years past.  In the meantime they’re still more than capable of taking care of young upstarts like the Blazers.

 

Keys to the Game

 

1.  A lot of the offensive rebound putbacks that Portland has thrived on in its recent victories probably aren’t going to be there tonight.  The Blazers will have to compensate by hitting a high percentage of their shots.  If we miss a lot we lose tonight.

 

2.   When we played the Suns a couple weeks ago we let them shoot 55%.  That will kill us too.  The biggest culprit was our inability to deal with Steve Nash coming off of screens.  We had to over-commit to handle Nash and we left his cohorts with easy looks.  Point of attack defense by our point guards plus aggressive show-and-retreats by our big men will be crucial tonight.

 

3.  Phoenix draws fouls.  Our big guys tend to commit fouls.  That’ll not only give them extra points, it’ll commit our bigs to the bench and force us to field weaker defensive players against Shaq and Amare.  We’ve got to find a way to keep in front of their smaller players while giving reasonable help to our bigger guys.  Normally it’s the job of center and power forward to cover for the wing players on defense.  Tonight our wing players have to return the favor.

 

4.  The Suns have lost to New Orleans, Chicago, Houston, Utah, and the L*kers.  Most of those were committed defensive teams.  All held them below 100 points.  They have not won when scoring fewer than 100.  They have not lost when going over.  Slow the game down, go punch for punch, rebound hard, play tough, and hope for a chance to win it in the fourth quarter.

 

5.  If we keep shooting three-pointers like we have we’ll always have a chance.  As long as they’re coming off of penetration and passing and they’re open, go for it!

 

6.  Points off turnovers could be an area of significant advantage for the Blazers.  We’ll need every advantage we can get.

 

Storylines to Watch

 

1.  Past vs. Future

 

Is there a bigger storyline in the NBA tonight than Shaq vs. Oden?  Keep in mind that Shaq has played almost three times as many NBA seasons as Oden has played NBA games.  Plus Greg isn’t light on his feet yet and Shaq is as big and strong as he.  This is not a battle of titans.  This is like playing Halo against your friend when he knows the map and you’ve never seen it.  You may be pretty good at the game but he’s going to have an advantage.  The storyline is likely to have a disappointing anticlimax.  Any signs of Greg holding his own and contributing are going to be great.  We don’t need him to score 20 to win this game.  Just learn to bang with the big fella a little and don’t let him take you out of the game.

 

2.  Suns on a Rampage?

 

The Suns have lost two straight, getting whacked in Utah and then losing an even more disappointing game to the L*kers at home.  Having been slapped across the face twice by honest Western contenders they’re not going to want to take another blow from whippersnappers like us.  They’re likely to come out focused and angry.  Weathering the initial blow and coming back will be important.  The quickest way for the Blazers to lose this game in a bad way will be for them to lose confidence.

 

3.  Honor Nate McMillan?

 

To have a chance tonight we’re going to have to come up with some pretty nifty schemes.  You can’t just key on one Suns player and choke off the whole team that way.  The Blazers will have to deal with inside threats and outside from a team that’s committed to halfcourt offense but can still run.  They’ve got great bigs to match ours.  Their supporting cast are the players we hope some of our young guys will develop into someday.  It’s going to take some major wizardry to cope with all of that without breaking down or checking out.  I’ll be interested to see what, if anything, our staff can come up with.

 

Final Thoughts

 

We’ve just had two blowout wins over teams we could handle.  No tears if we don’t manage this one.  Big props if we do.  Either way winning two out of three will get you in the playoffs.

 

Check out the Suns’ side of things at BrightSideoftheSun.

 

Enter the Jersey Contest form for this game here.

 

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

0 recs  |  Comment 86 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Winning two out of three

gets you 54 2/3 wins, which rounds to 55. Just saying.

This one will be really tough. The 3s better be falling, and we need Greg and Joel to stay reasonably out of foul trouble. Those two things happen and we’re in the game. If they don’t, this could be painful.

This is a “non-indicator” game. If you lose it, you expect to lose games on the road against elite teams. If you win it, it is because some very good things happened that you can’t really count on duplicating regularly. Neither result will tell you a lot about this team. We already know we’ll get some of that kind of win, and we know we’ll have some of that kind of loss.

We actually have some home games coming up. It would be nice to have one more road win before them.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 1:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

And...

55 wins gets you in the playoffs.

—Dave

by Dave on Nov 22, 2008 1:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In most years :)

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 4:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

in all years

right?

"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.

What're you doing? I don't know.

What're you thinking about? I don't know.

Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso

by 92wastheyear on Nov 22, 2008 8:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it is theoretically possible

to construct a season where that wouldn’t make it. :)

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 8:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and past performance doesn't promise future results

but still…

"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.

What're you doing? I don't know.

What're you thinking about? I don't know.

Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso

by 92wastheyear on Nov 22, 2008 8:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave...

Key #7:

Sergio’s defense.

Will he be able to keep up his impressive showing against a hall of famer?

Congratulations. Nate McMillan has Sergio defending !

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 22, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Who, Steve? Not exactly an All-NBA defensive player

Maybe they trade points and assists on both ends :)

by Norsktroll on Nov 22, 2008 12:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Nash

Is a hall of famer & Sergio’s favorite NBA player. Not often you get to play your idol. I hope Sergio is watching him every chance he gets, just to get a glimpse of some things he could improve on. I want to see Sergio average 3 steal a game like McMillan did that 1 year :D

Get aggressive guys.

Congratulations. Nate McMillan has Sergio defending !

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 22, 2008 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

a win tomorrow would be HUGE with our 3 game homestand coming up

A win tomorrow (which I’m not at all expecting and would guess a 15% probability of happening) would put us at 9-5 with three winable games at home next week.

The popular thought pre-season (that Dave and all the other logical Blazers folks were saying) was that “It would be great if we can have a 12-12 record after our first 24 games.” That was the record that would still put us on track to be able to make a run for the playoffs.

A win tomorrow would jump the tracks on that trajectory to a playoff berth. People who predicted a season win total in the mid-40s would be looking like sandbaggers. Of course, a win tomorrow doesn’t mean that much at the end of April (and a ton of things could go wrong between now and then), but it would certainly cause me to readjust my expectations for this season.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 22, 2008 1:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We've already

jumped the tracks on the sandbaggers’ trajectory, win or lose tonight. Given the early season schedule, if we go home 8-6, we are on pace for well over 50 wins.

IF we lose, we’ll be at 4-6 on the road. That projects to 16.4 road wins, and we’ve had a very difficult road schedule (5 games against Western teams that had 54 or more wins last year, 1 at Orlando), and we’ve had injuries. It is entirely reasonable to expect that 4-6 out of these first 10 road games indicates a team capable of 22-23 road wins for the year, even if we had been healthy.

A team with a winning road record is likely going to win 53 or more games for the season. Even if we lose, you had better readjust your expectations, if they were sub-50 wins.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 4:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

heres a strategy

bench ike and activate shavik. or we can play our zonies and try to win over the crowd. ps i am no longer a stevie hater. mums the woid.

by riccc_l on Nov 22, 2008 1:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Open debate on how is greater

S-lik or Ike?

"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."

by BlueBooYay on Nov 22, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ike

no question. Compare their tours of dooty in the NCAA. – Elgin.

All the kids who played the blues would learn my licks with a bottleneck slide. - Richard Palmer-James

by 22baylor on Nov 24, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

it's nice that lamarcus showed signs of life

because if he was still in his funk we would have little chance.

ignacio

by ignacio on Nov 22, 2008 2:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

His outside Jumper

Is key for Oden being able to dominate. Can he hit it like he did yesterday? I hope so, because a PF who can hit that deep consistently opens things up big time for driving lanes as well.

Congratulations. Nate McMillan has Sergio defending !

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 22, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bayless

Okay, so first of all I know that I’m probably committing a sin against someone for recommending this: But does anyone else think that Bayless might be able to D up on some PG’s a bit better than our current lineup?

The way I see it we’re bringing in two VERY similar PG’s to each game. Blake is a very heady vet and Sergio is a very quick paced assist guy. But both are a shade slow in most instances, and both get torched by the better guards in the league…

Bayless was talked about on this forum as a potential great due to his ability to be effective w/o the ball and D up on opposing guards. I feel like that’s currently lacking with Sergio. No one is able to stop an effective PG (don’t argue with Rose, he honestly just had an off night, he did not get beat by our D…).

Anyways, I know that Nate makes mostly the correct reads. I also know there’s a big competition for backup PG duty at practices, and the best guy is going to get the playing time. I just feel like Bayless should get a little more burn so we can see what the guy is going to bring to the table at the NBA…

by Powder on Nov 22, 2008 3:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We don't need to see

Nate sees, and he’s decided he’s not ready yet.

You are right about Jerryd, but early. His time may be in two months, or in two years. It is coming, make no mistake. But he’s not ready yet, and there’s no point in “seeing what he can do” when he can’t do it yet.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 4:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's so fun to watch on the drive

I know people had mixed feelings about Jack, but he drove to the basket. That’s a good thing.

by rmcdougall on Nov 22, 2008 7:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We have lots of guys driving to the basket

these days. Except when they are nailing 3 pointers, or dishing to someone underneath for a dunk.

Bayless will join the fun, probably by sometime next year.

If we keep playing as we have been, Nate probably won’t play Jerryd this year even if he’s tearing it up in practice. You don’t disrupt chemistry mid-season to insert a rookie point guard if you are on a roll (especially if you are Nate). A year of using his rear-end to hold the bench in place is healthy for the soul of a guy who has always been The Star, especially if you want him to learn to be a distributing PG.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 7:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

But there’s always the injury factor. If another guard gets hurt, Bayless will crack the line-up this season.

I remember many years ago when my Golden State Warriors were in a playoff series versus the Jazz, and their devastatingly fast point guard, Ricky Green, went down. We celebrated at first, then gradually realized that Green’s replacement—a pasty-faced rookie from Gonzaga—was even better. The next season Green was gone, and that replacement, John Stockton, was on his way to a Hall of Fame career.

That’s the way of the NBA: injuries equal opportunity. Not that I’m hoping a Blazer guard goes down this season. But it’s nice to have some insurance in Jerryd Bayless.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 22, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

J-Bay is developing

12 Games in, he is more ready than before.

He will be there for the PTB as needed. A very good resource to have on the bench. His time will come.

"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."

by BlueBooYay on Nov 22, 2008 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course

If we lost Blake or Sergio, we could go a three guard rotation with Brandon, Rudy, and the other point guard — but we wouldn’t, because Bayless is ready enough for that role, I would guess.

If it happens, I hope it is not until February or so, I’d guess he can probably use a little more time. The longer he sits before getting his chance, the more motivated he will be.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Small quibble...

Rose DID get beat by our D, just not by our PG – I thought Nate did a great job of drawing up traps and getting the ball out of his hand, and the rest of Chicago didn’t do a worthwhile job of getting him back into the flow. Blake/Sergio, within that system, did a great job. Just sayin’.

by samuelleejackson on Nov 22, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair point

However what I was discussing was the PG position. So are correct in saying it was not by our PG.

Sorry I didn’t outline that, I meant it in context but I understand if it wasn’t clear.

by Powder on Nov 22, 2008 7:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nonsense

I’m sick of the Bayless crap. I know he had a great summer league. That was freaking eons ago. Has it not sunk in yet that he’s not good enough to be on the court yet? Have you seen him on the court at all? He’s lost out there man. Lost. You Bayless fans just won’t allow reality to be involved in your judgements of the player. He’s a long way off.

by maxmillian on Nov 22, 2008 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He was our first pick

there will always be people jockeying to see him get burn

Congratulations. Nate McMillan has Sergio defending !

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 22, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

Okay, first of all nowhere in my post did I say he was ready… I was just saying I wouldn’t mind seeing a little more time for him.

I even go out of my way to make sure to say that he might not be the best in practice….:

I also know there’s a big competition for backup PG duty at practices, and the best guy is going to get the playing time.

The hostility is pretty unecessary buddy. I was looking to generate some other players thoughts. I don’t think my post was that far “out of reality.”

by Powder on Nov 22, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On Track

Like Barrett said today, we’ll have 40% of our road games out of the way by December 5., at which point we’ll only have played 25% of our games. Factor into this the integration of our 4 rookies and Diogu, and I don’t think anyone expected us to be 8-5 right now. Win or lose in Phoenix, the team is steadily improving. Even when we lose, we’re not getting blown out. Good teams win most of their home games (as we’re doing), and beat the teams like Minnesota, Memphis, Sacramento etc. on the road. And we’re already doing that. We even picked off Orlando (which offset Golden State). This is why I’m comfortable that barring some catastrophic injury – we’re right on track for 50 wins.

Tonight will be tough, and will be the second time we’ve played Phoenix in their building this early in the season. Which only means they’ll be coming to our house later. And later, they’ll have to step it up a notch to beat us there.

by Eben Calder on Nov 22, 2008 5:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jersey Contest Lessons

Always be sure to enter the Usernames and E-mail addresses correctly. And you can use me as your personal example. If you look at the scoreboard you’ll find me at 482 points. If you look near the bottom, you’ll find me again at 66 points. 482+66= 548, which is a tie for the lead this month.

Now, I’m not really worried about a jersey prize at all. Don’t really need one. But you just might.

Well, that, and my ego wants to show everyone how good my prognosticating abilities are. It’s not quite a Jscot ego, but it’s getting close. Although, it doesn’t sound very good to say “If I wasn’t an idiot, I’d be leading this contest! Mwa ha ha ha ha ha!” But that’s essentially what I’m saying. :p

One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season

"In vino veritas." - Latin proverb
"Ich sitze hier und trinke mein gutes Wittenbergisch Bier und das Reich Gottes kommt von ganz alleine" - Martin Luther
"μηκέτι ὑδροπότει, ἀλλὰ οἴνῳ ὀλίγῳ χρῶ διὰ τὸν στόμαχον καὶ τὰς πυκνάς σου ἀσθενείας." - 1 Timothy 5:23

by T Darkstar on Nov 22, 2008 6:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

In your dreams
It’s not quite a Jscot ego, but it’s getting close.

It’s really quite egotistical to think that your ego could even get close to mine.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 7:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, enter all games

I thought I only missed one (the Miami game when the time was moved). But apparently there have been already 10 games?

by Norsktroll on Nov 22, 2008 8:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We now have averages

And standings!

I am currently 73rd of 500 (lots o’ quitters).

My immediate goal is to beat out Alfredo (Top 12).

"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."

by BlueBooYay on Nov 22, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know it hurts when a newcomer is over you ;-)

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Nov 22, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

has anyone else....

had their scores not report correctly.

I checked all of my game forms and added up my individual totals. That number is different from my number on the November scoreboard. Anyone else?

I’m no longer in contention this month after recording some bad scores, but I can’t be the only one who is losing out on points.

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Nov 22, 2008 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There was a bug in the scoreboard registry

We mentioned it several times. Should be fixed now. Try adding your scores again and see what you come up with.

—Dave

by Dave on Nov 22, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh cool

I didn’t catch the bug report. Let me head over there again. Thanks Dave

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Nov 22, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, it was fixed

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Nov 22, 2008 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Health of Oden

Anybody else worried Shaq is going to injure Oden tonight? Shaq has always hated the Blazers, he can’t stand Pryzbilla and he gets away with a lot of dirty fouls. Hope Oden makes it out okay. I hate the Suns almost as much as the Lakers.

by JRRIDER on Nov 22, 2008 7:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's a worry

But I prefer to not even imagine that.

by rmcdougall on Nov 22, 2008 7:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody else worried

that Oden is going to injure Shaq tonight?

I didn’t think so.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 7:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Quote after the game from Oden:

Oden (in a Shaq imitation): “Hey, Beno, tell me how your jaw feels.”

Spanish Main: The point of departure for enormous wealth in the form of gold, silver, gems, spices, hardwoods, hides, alley-oops, assists and three pointers.

by LaughingJon on Nov 22, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay.

Maybe I just imagined that…

Spanish Main: The point of departure for enormous wealth in the form of gold, silver, gems, spices, hardwoods, hides, alley-oops, assists and three pointers.

by LaughingJon on Nov 22, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

GO meet and greet, get out healthy

Shaq is 7’ 1", 325 lbs. of old, experienced and slow.

GO is 7’ 280 lbs. of young, inexperienced and healin’.

"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."

by BlueBooYay on Nov 22, 2008 11:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This feels big

Its only Novemeber, but the gauntlet needs to be passed on, will it be tonight? I have JR’s thoughts about tonights game also , can Shaq keep it real or will we see the Shaq that plays dirty, and will be doing by whatever means possible to intimadate and enforce his will on the young rookie. I think this game has alot of ramifications as to how the country will view the Blazers. If Oden holds his own(he probably will only get 7-10 minutes against Shaq)and does not get injured, and does not let Shaq get in his head this would be considered a solid start to his carreer. Shaq is going to do whatever it takes to show he is the alpha male on the court.

Joel is the key to tonights success in the paint. The spotlight and focus will be when Greg comes in to face Shaq, Joel has got to get a couple personals on Shaq and set the tone.

The second biggest thing Portland has to do is some how contain Amare, this game game could get out of hand quick if there is no help defense for LMA,(again Joel is crucial) Im worried everyone will be wanting to help Greg out and forget about the true game changer and the real front court leader of the suns.

Portlands backcourt has been on fire, I hope it continues tonight, This game just should not feel this important this early but we have been playing our A game the last couple nights and the suns have been???? The suns, kind of an inigma.

Go Blazers,,,,,,,,

by Dragonage on Nov 22, 2008 7:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed that it's actually JOEL that's the key tonight...

………………… If Joel starts and can get Shaq to run for 6 minutes and pick up a foul BEFORE Oden comes in the game, that will be key… Shaq can’t go all night, he’s pretty much a 30 minutes max guy these days. Sorta like bullfighting, if Joel can do some first-rate picador work and get the big bull’s head down, the matador should have an easier time getting the kill shot between the shoulder blades…

Should be a hugely entertaining matchup, too bad I’m gonna (mostly) miss it…

"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard

by timbo on Nov 22, 2008 8:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

................ and the second question: can anybody on this team stop Amaré?

"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard

by timbo on Nov 22, 2008 8:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Might be a good night to break out the Oden-Przy frontcourt for a few minutes.

If they’re not both in foul trouble, that is.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 22, 2008 8:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

N O

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Nov 22, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Five-way tie for second place in the conference.

Suns and Blazers play each other.
Utah (who owns the head-to-head tiebreaker over us) gets Memphis.
Houston (over whom WE own the head-to-head) is in Orlando.
Denver is idle.

We win tonight, we’d be in the THREE SEED spot.
After the murderous schedule start we’ve had, at the end of this 7-of-8-on-the-road stretch.

THAT . . . would be a Big Win.

Oh, and it looks like Carlisemo is dismissemo’d.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 22, 2008 8:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I should add, we'd be the three-seed IF Utah beats Memphis.

An upset by the Teddy Bears’ Picnic (and their game starts an hour before ours, so if it happens,
we’ll know about it in time to be fired up by it) would allow a Blazers win to put us into SECOND PLACE,
maybe tied with Houston (over whom we have the tiebreaker), maybe all alone.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 22, 2008 8:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I just went over to the suns board and they do not even have a game day thread up? That LA loss must still be smarting.

mghhaahaa,,,,,

by Dragonage on Nov 22, 2008 8:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

sadly

the BSOFTS community is sometimes a little.. ehm… inactive :(

Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr

by Murcy on Nov 22, 2008 8:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Neither do we

We don’t have a gameday thread up, do we? This isn’t the gameday thread, this is the preview thread. Correct me if I’m wrong.

by rmcdougall on Nov 22, 2008 9:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm excited about this one.

I hope Oden takes it easy on the ol’ guy. J/K I hope Oden dunks all over Shaq tonight, and stuffs him.

He has arrived:
G.O. for R.O.Y.

Vote for our All-Stars:
http://www.nba.com/allstar2009/asb/eng/landing.jsp?cid=127

by j-blaze on Nov 22, 2008 8:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I hope Oden learns a lot from Snaq tonight.

And I hope Snaq teaches it.

Someday soon, the game is going to leave O’Meal behind; most of Oden’s career will happen after that.
For Oden’s peak, Snaq won’t be his competitor and rival; he will be the former Big Big, watching the current one,
having passed the torch, just like guys like Russell and Walton have been to Oden since before he hit the Buckeyes.

It is in Snaq’s great interest that Oden carry the torch well after Snaq has become The Big La-Z-Boy.
Before then, there are few opportunities for the elder to teach the younger in the field of battle.

Teach well, Snaq. Learn well, Oden.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 22, 2008 8:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Then again, that relationship sounds like an Apollo Creed/Clubber Lang kinda deal.

And we know how THAT ended up when they met in the ring.

"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." - Ernest Hemingway

by QualityPie on Nov 22, 2008 8:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry

Kerr screwed Nash over in basically every aspect of his game. he won’t let him use any of his strengths. plus, porter (I know you love him, I like him, but now he’s screwing my team up) does not, for some reason use the nash-STAT pnr, even though there has not been an answer for that in recent years…
the shaq problem: he’s playing well this year… and because of that, we are always going to him… which is pretty bad considering what the suns have plenty of, is offensive weapons: Barbosa’s penetration and 3s, Bell’s 3s, Nash’s awesomeness from everywhere and so on… so, damn you Steve Kerr for all of your sins against the beautiful team we have had :(
(and no, no SSOL bandwagoneer, I’ve loved the suns since 98)

Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr

by Murcy on Nov 22, 2008 8:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to BEdge,

where ladies and gentlemen may want to view you profile.

"I began to imagine as always at my left side just out of range of sight, a brazen winged beast which I associated with laughing, ecstatic destruction." William Butler Yeats

by OBJuan72 on Nov 22, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't Be A Skeptic!

We are gonna smash the Suns!!! Let’s not say “it’s not a big deal if we don’t win” post…We fans got to be as confident as our Blazers.

Realistic or not, our Blazers believe they will win every game no matter where and who they paly, and now I’m fully believing too. No “ifs” and “buts.”

We are winning by 17. Just give me the Jersey now Dave!!!!

by broyposse on Nov 22, 2008 9:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

well now

there’s a HAHAHAHAHA ;) come on… Amaré a punk? you’re mistaking punk for badass. Oden is a badass too, I love his party pix, I liked him for those even before I saw him play. Nevertheless, STAT is not the type of guy to get many of his dunk attempts shown into his face. I’m not saying it’s impossible but it is more likely for him to posterize GO.
anyway I hope this is gonna be a great game. I wish the Blazers would win many many games this year… just not this one. or the others against the suns.
peace

Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr

by Murcy on Nov 22, 2008 9:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave, you mention Halo, any other Xbox Live Blazer fans out there?

Maybe we could get a little Blazer fan halo 3 game some time or NBA 2k9

my gamertag is C0l angus

the second letter is a zero, and the third is an L.

Anyone interested can send me a friend invite and we can organize online

by hawkblogger on Nov 22, 2008 9:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We will lose this game tonight

Why? Because it is on KGW.

"Brandon Roy is your favorite restaurant" - Dave

by Sabonis4Ever on Nov 22, 2008 10:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

No Way!

"You're really making me feel good about myself, little man," says Oden as he starts dancing after scoring a goal. "You better come harder than that."

by BlueBooYay on Nov 22, 2008 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

we've won the last 2 KGW games

On drowning my daughter before she becomes a teenager (to my son)-"You know how when you want to drown someone, you first tie something heavy to the their foot?" My Son: "Yeah?" Me:"You're the something heavy"

by 92wastheyear on Nov 22, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

San Antonio and Minnesota

were the ones I was thinking of. You are right about GS. So this year we are 2-1 on KGW games. Maybe the team shoulda used live chickens when they tried to break the KGW curse

On drowning my daughter before she becomes a teenager (to my son)-"You know how when you want to drown someone, you first tie something heavy to the their foot?" My Son: "Yeah?" Me:"You're the something heavy"

by 92wastheyear on Nov 22, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There's some heavy stuff in your sig

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You got kids?

lol

On drowning my daughter before she becomes a teenager (to my son)-"You know how when you want to drown someone, you first tie something heavy to the their foot?" My Son: "Yeah?" Me:"You're the something heavy"

by 92wastheyear on Nov 22, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I used to

They drowned.

The most amazing thing about my amazing ego is I have amazingly little about which to be egotistical.
The pick and roll this year will emphasize "roll" followed by "dunk", followed by the wailings and lamentations of your women.

by jscot on Nov 22, 2008 11:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

On drowning my daughter before she becomes a teenager (to my son)-"You know how when you want to drown someone, you first tie something heavy to the their foot?" My Son: "Yeah?" Me:"You're the something heavy"

by 92wastheyear on Nov 23, 2008 5:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Oden get schooled by Shaq!

I mean that literally. I hope Oden learns how Shaq uses his body, avoids getting called for fouls, gets position in the post. Ultimately the best thing that can happen tonight is that Oden uses the experience of playing against Shaq to learn from him and become a better player. Oden is making awesome strides- hopefully playing against great players will hasten his education and Oden, Blazer fans, will be the real winners.

by tiesque on Nov 22, 2008 12:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

oxen lol, are you on an iphone??

i have typed Oxen so many times when trying to type oden (the autocorrect goes to Oxen)

Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.

Follow my twitter www.twitter.com/PDXBlazersFTW, @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.

by lanepete on Nov 22, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

besides we winning

it’d be great if Rudy and Sergio had great games.
As a way to say thanks to them for giving them to us for cheap.

by Falcao on Nov 22, 2008 12:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

If your a Sun fan that would have to leave a bad taste in your mouth

by southern oregon on Nov 22, 2008 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Whippersnappers like us

Thanks for the image of young Blazers with whips.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/7/messages/783.html

"I began to imagine as always at my left side just out of range of sight, a brazen winged beast which I associated with laughing, ecstatic destruction." William Butler Yeats

by OBJuan72 on Nov 22, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ya, I was typing on the iphone. I don’t know why it changed ODEN to OXEN and SHAQ to SHAW. Pretty funny though.

by Flapbreaker on Nov 22, 2008 3:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

A site by Blazer fans, for Blazer fans
Start posting about the Trail Blazers »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Small
Guess who has the highest PER for the Blazers? Hint, it isn't who you think.
Small
New B-Roy is the Old Kobe
The_dude_small
Stats 101: Whats The Deal? Let Me Explain...
Broyhope_small
First Rose Garden Game Redux...
Troll_stone_cropped_small
Nate in the land of the giants

Recent FanPosts

Screen_shot_2009-11-03_at_9
Looking to Consolidate the Blazers Talent? Well Guess Who has the Highest +/-? Also Blazers vs. Grizzlies Game Preview
Dsc_6704
"Per 48 Minutes" stats = Good news for Bayless
Copy_of_dcp_2180_small
09/10 junk
Meaccident_small
Most encouraging signs from the early season
Imported_photos_00004_small
Blazers Vs Timberwolves 10/8/09 Review
Small
How to consolidate?
Small
The Sched Ahead -- 11/09/09 Week Three, Primoris Annus Blazerium Dominatium
Small
Is Bynum the New Oden
Small
Brandon (old or new) is NOT Kobe (old or new) w/Poll
1-5-2009_007_small
NBA League Pass Blazer feeds???

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recommended FanShots

marty's buzzer beating dunk
Brandon Roy Wallpaper
Chad Ford (Insider): Travis Outlaw "Probably Won't Be Re-Signed"
Manu catches a bat during game. live coverage

ps
check out blair at the begining of video he freaks like a girl
Start Miller

Recent FanShots

Basketball Stats for Beginners...
So Bayless and T.I. are related right??
This chick will bring the toughness that the Blazers need to stop the other teams best players. Sign her KP!!!!
Rudy openly expresses disgruntlement
Charlie Rosen critiques the Blazers
McMillan said the key to having success on the road comes down to one...
NBA Top 10 From Last Night
I hope to see a LOT more of this during the season...nothing better than seeing Oden get block of the night.
Jaynes Weighs in on Blake / Miller / Roy
Viva la 3-Guard! T-Wolves Recap, at Loaded Orygun

+ New FanShot All FanShots >


Editors

Kitten_small Dave

Ben_small Ben.

Moderators

Pict1126_small -ken

Polar_bear_small jorga

Terryporter_small prezofdeath

Small usmcr3049

Jesus_icon_i_small T Darkstar

Wallpaper_small geoffm