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A Center Emerges

No, not Oden. I'm talking about Joel Pryzbilla. This season, before Oden returned in the Miami game, Joel was his normal ineffective self on offense, but since Oden's return Joel's offensive stats have been on the rise.

Here are the numbers (I've translated them to per 40 minutes):

In first seven games (including LA) without Greg: 6.4

In the last five games with Greg: 14.0

Joel has doubled his offensive output with Greg Oden in the lineup. And even when you compare it to Joel's career marks of 8 points per 40 minutes you can see a significant increase.

The major disclaimer is that this has been over a very small sample size, and as the season goes along we will be able to tell if his offensive output regresses towards the mean.

I would argue the opposite though, I think Pryzbilla's offensive output will increase as the season progresses. The main reason: Greg Oden. As the Blazers incorporate their new center into the offense, more and more opportunities will be developed to get the ball to Greg in the post. These same opportunities will exist with Pryzbilla in the game. Other Blazer players are learning how to play with a dominant center (where to feed them, how to work off of them on dribble drives and other penetration, ideal opportunities for offensive rebounds and putbacks, etc...), and Joel is reaping the benefits.

I feel that Sergio is also a major part of this. His ability to get in the lane is better than any player on our team, except for Roy, and he is always looking to pass first. Sergio is the ideal point guard to accentuate a strong inside presence because defenses either have to collapse on him, which leaves Greg/Joel open, or let him get to the rim, which he has become more efficient at in recent games. This is aided more by the Blazers outside threats, which help to space the floor and create room for penetration and low post opportunities.

What does this mean for the team? With two centers that provide excellent defensive presence and increased offensive firepower, the Blazers will begin to rely less on their jumpers and more on points in the paint. I don't think that we will completely abandon the jumper because, with the inside presence, we should be able to create easier looks (this is already apparent, as we are among the league leaders in offensive efficiency).

What do you think? Is Joel's increased production a fluke?    

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Dang, last night I was going to make a post about this

Thank you Joel. You do not and will not get the recognition you deserve playing with GO.

His presence is so necessary, imagine what our team would look like with just GO as the center… All of a sudden our depth doesn’t feel so great does it? We start to seem a little weak, don’t we? Our entire team hinges on GO playing the center spot well, without Joel. With Joel we are more comfortable, our team has a back bone, and a proven center in the middle. Joel FTW!

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Nov 21, 2008 10:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

As I stated in another thread

If he’s expecting to be passed to he can be a decent scoring threat. I remember when Damon was still on the team they ran the pick and roll quite well together and he had several 15+ point games.

When the offensive system emphasizes outside jump shots however, he is mostly banging away for position and not looking to receive the ball. Joel doesn’t exactly have great reflexes or soft hand so expecting him to catch non-anticipated last-second passes is a bit much.

That up and under for a dunk on Al Jefferson was sweet BTW!

Rooo-D!

by truls on Nov 21, 2008 10:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Watching some of the Chicago game again

He just looked so active and energetic. I guess most of the Blazers looked good, but he looked like he was doing stuff he didn’t always do.

"Hightide was the only "Yes" vote" - parkinglotj

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Nov 21, 2008 11:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nick van Exel

In Joel’s first TB season he was getting pick and roll dunks whenever NVE handled the ball. Przy didn’t “forget” how to pick, slip, catch and dunk, he just has been waiting for a talented guard to come along and “set him up” again

by two4larue on Nov 21, 2008 12:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think it's psychological too.

In an interview on the bald / butt faced truth, he said that he is playing more care free this year, and less tentative. He said last year he was so worried about getting quick fouls that he was holding back a little bit. It’s obvious to me that he’s not only getting more easy buckets created by our guards,, but is hungrier this year too. His buckets are more decisive.

I LOVE JOEL!!!!!!

by dario argento on Nov 21, 2008 1:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I thought about making a post about this, but was too lazy.

Joel looks like a whole new player. I sure hope he can keep it up, and I think he will. He and Oden have practically been twins so far, to my untrained eye. If Oden keeps progressing, and Joel keeps playing like this, the Blazer’s could have the best total center production ever.

81% shooting, wow. Talk about good shot selection, and execution. Last year it seemed like he was about 50% on dunk attempts.

by pualo on Nov 21, 2008 1:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's a combo of things

First, I think Joel knows his minutes are going down, so he doesn’t have to worry about foul trouble or conserving energy, so he’s super active in the 20 minutes he’s out there. We’re not hosed now if he picks up a couple cheap offensive or loose ball fouls going for rebounds.

Second, with Greg back, our guys are getting more used to encorporating a center into our offensive plan and sets. Roy and Blake, especially, are looking a lot more for that easy dump to either Joel or Greg once the opposing center peels off to challenge them at the rim. No matter how bad Joel’s hands are, he can still take a handoff from close range, which is where he’s getting a lot of his buckets.

by Royster on Nov 21, 2008 2:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Another factor

is that now with Gregg the other team has to use all of thier biggest and best centers on him, and so Pryz is getting to get to go against smaller bench players, and players who are more apt to help with the penetrator.

Go M's

by OBF on Nov 21, 2008 3:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I've said a few times on the gameday open threads that I think Pryz could be a 10 ppg guy with just a few "correct" passes to him per game...

…………. Whereas the “book” on Pryz has been Dave’s view, that he’s hopelessly stone-handed and unable to catch a pass, God help you if you throw him one, in reality there is a certain type of pass Joel can catch and finish with the best of them — in the air, face high or so, with him deep and squared to the basket, as opposed to bounce passes in traffic, which are always a catastrophe.

Joel is also good for about 4 ppg on rebounds and putbacks.

Now, for whatever reason, Pryz is getting those two or three extra “good” passes a game, with great results. I think this is directly related to the Oden factor— entry passes to the low post are being preached by the coaches and practiced by the players, and there are more people LOOKING to get the ball low. This is good, good, good as it addresses the #1 weakness of this team, a willingness to accept long jumpshots instead of seeking to get the ball to the rim and cramming it down the gullets of the opposition…

It’s an interesting phenomenon — fewer minutes with MORE offensive production by Joel. I look for the trend to continue.

There is also something to be said about being able to come in rested and not have to worry about fouls. This applies both for Oden and Pryz. I’d like to see a time split in the 60-40 range, skewed no more one-sidedly than that. Further, I think Pryz starting and bringing Oden off the bench is potentially a GENIUS game tactic… Run the opponents’ starting bigs for 7 minutes, let them get a little winded, and THEN in comes the mighty Oden to crush and dominate. That would HAVE to be a tough thing to deal with!

I’m really digging this Age of Oden and the Center Tandem and I hope that he and Joel both stay healthy.

t

"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard

by timbo on Nov 21, 2008 4:24 PM PST reply actions   4 recs

Is this really timbo?

Because I agree 100% with everything you said here. Seriously, excellent points. recc’d, along with this excellent post. Glad to see some people other than just me are actually noticing Joel’s inspired play.

The guy is shooting 81% from the field this year!

That’s called knowing your place and executing it.

"I believe in [Joel]. I just love the way he plays." - Nate McMillan

by jamon51 on Nov 21, 2008 5:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you really think 25 pts

20 rebs and 6 blocks from the 5’s is going to get it done?

by southern oregon on Nov 21, 2008 5:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

pryz had 2 blocks tonight

"It's not who jumps the highest -- it's who wants it the most" Buck Williams

by Fund A Mental on Nov 21, 2008 11:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he looked good tonight, too

has he missed a basket since the GS game?

by kickbrass on Nov 21, 2008 9:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

nope

10-10 from the field and 4-4 from the line with 18 rebounds

"It's not who jumps the highest -- it's who wants it the most" Buck Williams

by Fund A Mental on Nov 21, 2008 9:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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