Gerald Wallace to the Blazers?
Just saw a rumor report on Si.com that the Bobcats have been actively shopping Gerald Wallace and are poised to make a move soon. Any chance that the Blazers would be able to land him? Small forward is the position that most people see as a weakness for the Blazers and he would seem to fit the bill pretty well. Maybe not as good a shooter as we would like, but otherwise a solid, young, well rounded player who doesn't necessarily have to be the star. Any thoughts on this being a possibilty? Who would we trade, or would he even fit well with our team? I'm curious to know what other people's opinions are on this.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/78335?eref=sircrc&eref=fromSI
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See posts from a week ago...
to get a general feel on what people think about this.
Sorry, this is old news.
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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 20, 2008 3:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My bad
I only browsed the past few days worth.
by ChiefRunningMouth on Nov 20, 2008 3:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
the roster trimming is interesting news so thanks for posting…
we’ve got plenty of pieces to make a 3 for 1 or 4 for 2 happen…
but do we blow this up with the team playing so well?
by Ben. on Nov 20, 2008 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just an opinion....
But is Gerald Wallace really all that good? To me, that guy is a medium-sized fish in a microscopic pond. He’s alright for a role player, but I agree, you don’t wanna jerk with the roster while things are going well. If you make a move, you make it for someone who’s going to make a relatively sizeable difference.
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by LeafHawk on Nov 20, 2008 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good point
Wallace is a pretty good rebounder for a SF, and I would rate him as an above average defender, but I would personally prefer a better outside shooter to create space for our big guys or guards when they go inside.
by ChiefRunningMouth on Nov 20, 2008 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i like wallace a lot, particularly in theory.
would he drive us crazy? probably yes.
is now the time and is he the player? i’m leaning towards no right now.
by Ben. on Nov 20, 2008 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Charlotte is looking everywhere for a quality true center to move Okafor back to PF and Wallace to SF
For the two players waived yesterday to make room, supposedly they are just picking up center Dwayne Jones. Maybe they also make a run at Antonio McDyess, but he might be too expensive. If we would offer Joel, we would be in the running for Wallace, but I doubt KP/Nate is ready to take that step already and trust everything on Greg when the two are such a great rotation.
There are also rumors Dallas has talked to the Bobcats about Diop (potentially in a package with Stackhouse – who is trying to find a new home), but already made the decision that Josh Howard is better than Wallace so no interest for this player swap. They would love to get a backup PG, or potentially a starting SG.
by Norsktroll on Nov 20, 2008 3:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
joel/channing for wallace works.
so does joel/channing/sergio and martell or travis for wallace/felton.
im not saying. just saying. can’t really see it happening.
if they did one of these that would be crazy rocks from KP.
by Ben. on Nov 20, 2008 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Throw in Ajinca as a cheap C/PF backup (and friend of Nic) in either deal, and many issues would be addressed at once :)
But it would be a bit too crazy/risky. And we don’t really want to become the Bobcats, right?
by Norsktroll on Nov 20, 2008 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ajinca would be great BE fodder. out of this world fodder.
by Ben. on Nov 20, 2008 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see Joel
being moved unless he’s part of a deal for an all-star level player. His defense/rebounding is just too valuable backing up Greg, who will be getting more fouls when starts again. Joel’s opportunistic offensive game even seems to be improving (just being in the right place and looking for dunks off of inside dishes) after playing against Greg in practice. Joel is also important to help develop Greg’s defensive and rebounding positioning for the next year or so, which none of the other Blazer’s can do.
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 20, 2008 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Have you SEEN THE NUMBERS that Oden+Pryz, with 12 fouls to spend every night, are ALREADY putting up?
Trading Pryz to create an even-greater logjam at the 3 seems too wacky to contemplate.
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by timbo on Nov 21, 2008 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I continue to be of the belief
that we will be making no trades this year, but using RLEC money (+insurance) to re-sign players.
by DrivetheLane on Nov 20, 2008 3:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that doesn't really make sense
since we’re not re-signing anyone until 2010 … unless you think that Channing Frye and Ike Diogu are worth all of our attention this summer. The point of the RLEC is that it expires and gives us a small window to do something with free agents/trades in the 2009 trade deadline/offseason. KP has the itchiest trigger finger in the league by all accounts, so don’t bet on everyone sticking around through next summer.
by kickbrass on Nov 20, 2008 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I now think Frye will be gone, but KP & Nate aren't going to move Sergio...
"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard
by timbo on Nov 21, 2008 8:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SF is the problem position?
Outlaw, Batum, Rudy and Roy with spot duty, Martell coming back soon. Really?
by grimc on Nov 20, 2008 4:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The prevailing theory
Is that you move two of the current SFs and get one “complete” (bonafide) starting SF. Cleans up the roster, clears up the logjam at teh 3, etc
(I’m not a subscriber to this theory, BTW)
by two4larue on Nov 20, 2008 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In my humble opinion this team is too good to let anyone go right now.
I’m not all that convinced that he’s much better now than Travis is going to be. Plus, aren’t there some character issues that come with him as well? I can’t think of any off the top of my head, but it seems like once I thought he was kind of a wet fart. And, not to say that a guy can’t make an off court mistake now and then, but I really don’t think he would be a good fit. Ball-hog maybe too? I don’t know. Just my thoughts.
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by Mike-Fu on Nov 20, 2008 4:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No
I just don’t see how we make any move without it being for th eone glaring weakness on this team, which is PG! Much less for a SF when we already have 3 that can play, and especially not for one who doesn’t shoot the three and/or defend excellently—as we already have the former in Travis and Martell, or the latter with Batum.
It’s gotta be for a PG—that is our glaring weakness.
by TimG on Nov 20, 2008 4:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
And if we can flip Frye for a banger PF-C in the deal, so much the better
by two4larue on Nov 20, 2008 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Diogu is a banger at PF...
… and he can’t beat out Channing.
All Frye needs is minutes and we all would be singing his praise. It’s not his fault that he’s unlikely to get the 25 – 30 minutes it would take to see his numbers as being very good.
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by timg56 on Nov 20, 2008 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Diogu is zach lite. He kills team chemistry
no def and when he gets the ball he shoots he does not pass. Ship him, I like Shavlik better.
by Titlein2011 on Nov 20, 2008 9:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say that PG is the position that would rank first
among Blazer fans here as being a weakness.
Furthermore, I’d argue that SF is anything but a source of weakness for this team. Martell was pretty decent last season and the indications were he was going to be even better this year. Travis, although arguably better suited matchup wise as a PF, has also shown improvement in several phases of his game, attacking the basket more, rebounding and even turning in some decent defense from time to time. Finally we have Sophia’s other darling young man (we all know who holds first place in her heart ). Nic has been a very pleasant surprise, demonstrating that he has more going for him than just huge promise.
The only SF I could see being enough of an upgrade to trade for would be Tayshaun Prince, possible Josh Howard. But then I happen to like both players. Gerald Wallace does not rise to the level of either if thise two and therefore should be of no interest to Portland.
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by timg56 on Nov 20, 2008 4:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I also believe that PG is the most glaring weakness, and its not like we’re all that bad there either. However, I do think that Shane Battier would be an upgrade at SF as well as Tayshaun Prince. None of our SF’s are terrible, and I think Batum will be outstanding in the future. My biggest problems with Martell and T-Law are that they try to do more than they are capable of doing sometimes, and that hurts the team. Battier never seems to do more than he is capable of, and thus limits stupid plays, bad shot attempts, etc.
by ChiefRunningMouth on Nov 20, 2008 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not this again, and no.
Why can’t people just be happy with what we have?
G.O. for R.O.Y.
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by j-blaze on Nov 20, 2008 4:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
maybe we are
and are just exploring options for improvement …
I’m not a big fan of the Gerald Wallace idea, either, but I do hope that KP is up to something big to improve our PG/SF stock this February or next summer.
by kickbrass on Nov 20, 2008 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Please, please, please, please, please.
Gerald Wallace is awesome.
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 20, 2008 5:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
What was it Cuban said last year?
Step away from the crack pipe.
Actually, it isn’t that Wallace is dog meat. He could very well be a high scoring wing for Portland. But I don’t see him being that much of an improvement over what we have. Lets at least see a couple months of Marty before we decide we are in dire need of a SF.
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by timg56 on Nov 20, 2008 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I assume you don’t watch the Bobcats. That’s not a knock on you, since virtualy no one watches the Bobcats.
Gerald Wallace is easily a top ten SF in this league. He’s vastly underrated by the media because he plays for such a stupid team. He’s also one of the best defenders in the league. He would be a VAST improvement over what we have now. He would be the best wing defender on the team by a mile. He’s light years ahead of Outlaw and Webster at getting to rim and rebounding.
Dwight Howard only scored 4 points and 7 rebounds before fouling out when the Magic played the Bobcats last week. Part of the reason for those low numbers is that Wallace is such a good help defender and one of the best shot blockers in the league. Howard didn’t want to get beat up in the paint by a guy who’s willing to crash into anyone trying to get to the hoop.
He’s a borderline all star and the best defense wing next to Tayshon Prince and Ron Artest.
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 20, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think you need a couple of qualifiers there
Gerald Wallace is sometimes and infrequently awesome
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Nov 20, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Gerald Wallace is always awesome.
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 20, 2008 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Coming from a guy whose SN is Nick Van Excellent…
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Nov 21, 2008 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What's that supposed to mean?
This coming from a guy who’s screen name is TheOdenator.
How is the bandwagon treating you?
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 21, 2008 10:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
I joined this site after we got greg oden, I did not become a fan after we drafted greg oden.
Gerald Wallace is the Nick Van Excel of this generation. Crazy potential, maddening production.
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Nov 21, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry my computer automatically corrected to Excel, should have read exel
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Nov 21, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But just to continue
Because apparently people here are taking for granted that he would be an upgrade (no question he is better than our current PFs, but would he be better for our team?)
We as fans have, in the past, been incredibly frustrated with 3 things:
1) Off-court behavior
2) On-court boneheads
3) On-court no consistency
I am sure that everyone here knows that number 3 is Gerald Wallace’s calling card. Freaking amazing some night, freaking horrible other nights. If you look at his on-court production for just this season: You can see how amazingly variable his production is. This season his consistency has stepped up in a major way: look at the consistency of rebounds that is a new thing (you can flip to different seasons on the chart, and then you will see wild variation in every stat in each year).
He’s often injured. Hence the nickname ‘Crash’. He has never played a full season, he has once come within 10 games of playing a full season.
His TO level is not that bad (Over the last 5 seasons he’s averaging just over 2 a game), he doesn’t make great decisions in-game, but that probably has more to do with the fact that he has been the best player on the Bobcats, and so when it is crunch time he only trusts himself. So bone-headed? Possibly. Jarret Jack-style? Not so much, his TO’s come pretty much from having his shot blocked or if he has his pocket picked.
His numbers are inflated the same way our playoff predictor stats are inflated, he absolutely goes off some nights, and then the next night doesn’t preform well at all. This man would give some people heart attacks if he joined this team.
Gerald Wallace has all of the tools to be a top NBA performer, but he will never be a top NBA performer. Teams use him as a vehicle to ride to wins, and we already have that type of player in Brandon Roy. I would rather Travis (And I would rather Brandon before Travis, and Rudy and Travis are about equal) have the ball to hit the game winner than Gerald Wallace. He’ never had production on a winning team, he will push our stars out for one game taking a ton of shots, and the next game he will expect our team to pick up the slack when he isn’t producing…
I guess I just don’t want Gerald Wallace anywhere near our offense or defense. He is a much better player than our current SF’s but he will completely break down our continuity. We have a predictable game that works, if Gerald Wallace were here we would have a predictable game minus one part that on any given night could be the extra gear we need, or be the extra gear that locks the whole system. I don’t want him on this team.
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Nov 21, 2008 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry the link didn;t work from the 4th paragraph
here is is: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=1026
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Nov 21, 2008 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
four responses to one comment.
I must have struck a nerve.
Thanks, but I know all about Gerald Wallace. I’ve watched him enough to form my own opinions about the guy. The ten minutes you spent on Wikipedia or nba.com looking up stats and writing your little mini thesis was a waste of time.
I’ve watched Gerald Wallace play. I think I’ll trust my own eyes thank you very much. He’s not an inconsistent defender. Nice try though.
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 21, 2008 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who said anything about him being an inconsistent defender?
Man, at least read my comments before replying. I didn’t write them specifically for you, but if you feel the need to comment, at least read a little bit of what I wrote.
And knock that stupid &*^# off. If you want to talk about what Gerald Wallace can bring to the Blazers (once every 5 games [when he isn’t injured]) then we can do that. But this site wasn’t set up so you could try and insult people.
If you do know anything about the NBA, then you are doing an incredibly bad job of presenting yourself that way and at least from my end, since you would rather try and insult people rather than talk about basketball, it looks like you might be better served on a forum like here
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Nov 21, 2008 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think KP would do the trade for the right price.
but giving up joel? no way.
by dario argento on Nov 20, 2008 8:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
can gerald wallace shoot the 3?
i checked his stats a week ago or so when this came up before,and his % wasnt bad but he’d only shot like 7 so far this year.
i think his overall fg % ends up looking good because he gets a lot of unopposed dunks. on contested j’s, mid-range or whatever, i don’t think he’s that great.
otherwise sure he can play d, rebound and run. won’t batum be just as good or better in 2 yrs (or less)?
ignacio
by ignacio on Nov 20, 2008 9:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
also if he came here he'd be the highest-paid player on the team
by quite a bit.
and he plays 40 min +/game in charlotte to get his stats. would we want that?
ignacio
by ignacio on Nov 20, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes,
Assuming Greg Oden is the real deal, Gerald Wallace would be the third best player on the team. LaMarcus could get there, but right now Gerald Wallace is probably more effective even at power forward.
His three point shooting is something he’s just started to develop when he slid over to small forward. He’s played power forward most of his career, creating mismatches much like Travis Outlaw did last year. He took twice as many three point attempts as Travis did last year and converted on 33% of them. That’s not great, but when you consider that he’s the Bobcats first option it makes sense that he wouldn’t get as many open looks.
We would want him to play minutes in Portland, so I’m not sure playing time would be a problem. He’s an absolute terror on defense. If Portland could get him without giving up too much, we could easily be one of the top defensive teams in the league.
I don’t think it will happen though. With the development of Batum I think it’s more likely that the Blazers will target a point guard. Plus, the Bobcats want a legit center so we would probably have to give up Pryzbilla.
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 20, 2008 10:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah this is super old news
“crash” is better than all of our small forwards combined
He can’t shoot the 3 so he may not be the BEST fit for our team right now but would make up for it with his D, rebounding, shot blocking, slashing and energy.
He’s available. its semi-realistic that we could actually get him, unlike 99 percent of the trade proposals on BE.
Afew years ago, a broadcaster once said Pryzbilla's name is "Polish for 'personal foul.'" Ouch.
by chrischa on Nov 20, 2008 10:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I guess it's being reported as imminent.
Also of note, the Bobcats have cleared two roster spots which suggests its a three for one deal.
Interesting.
http://dimemag.com/2008/11/updated-gerald-wallace-trade-rumors/
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 20, 2008 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the l*kers may make the most sense
in that they have a lot of decent (and more or less experienced) players they could spare, including chris mihm. they have SFs galore to include (odom and luke walton come to mind) — but if mihm still has some game then he might be the key. he wasn’t hald bad before he was hurt.
so that’s my best guess.
ignacio
by ignacio on Nov 20, 2008 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wallace would definitely make them tougher.
Heck, he might be the toughest guy in the league.
I don’t know if the Lakers would do it though, just because they seem to be playing together so well lately. I’m not sure Phil Jackson would want to change anything while they are still winning games.
Lamar Odom would be interesting because it would save the Bobcats money, which seems to be their number one goal.
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 20, 2008 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Webster and Outlaw
are both beginning to gel as players and both have a huge upside and either one or both of them are ready to break out of their shell. IMO we should hang on to one or both of them and watch as they become the coveted player other teams talk about trading for.
by BRye on Nov 21, 2008 7:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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