Oden for ROY? (With Poll)

by j-blaze on Nov 19, 2008 12:07 PM PST Comment 35 comments

I decided to do a little research on the top rookies in the league and see how our guys are doing comparatively. What I found was pretty interesting and shows that we have a good chance of seeing one our players as ROY this year. The main prospects on our team for ROY are obviously Rudy and Oden. Rudy we know about, but Oden hasn’t been talked about much, so let’s look at the numbers. Before everyone jumps on me, I know it is too early to tell, I just want to put this out there. I got these stats from NBA.com players section. I went through the stats and highlighted the leaders for each stat at this point of the season, this is what we have so far:

Leading Stats	Player	Season	Team	G	GS	MPG	FG%	3p%	FT%	OFF	DEF	RPG
3	Mayo	09-Aug	MEM	11	11	38.5	0.446	0.407	0.892	1.1	3.5	4.5
2	Rose	09-Aug	CHI	11	11	38.3	0.483	0.375	0.833	1.4	3.5	4.8
0	Beasley	09-Aug	MIA	11	11	31.8	0.443	0.308	0.868	1.9	3.7	5.6
5*	Oden	09-Aug	POR	5	1	21.4	0.533	0	0.654	2.2	5	7.2
3	Fernandez	09-Aug	POR	11	0	29	0.444	0.443	0.944	1	2.3	3.3

Leading Stats	Player	Season	Team	APG	SPG	BPG	TO	PF	PPG
3	Mayo	09-Aug	MEM	2.4	1.2	0.1	2.64	2.4	20.1
2	Rose	09-Aug	CHI	5.9	1.1	0.1	2.45	1.4	19.5
0	Beasley	09-Aug	MIA	1.5	0.8	0.6	2	2.7	15.4
5*	Oden	09-Aug	POR	0.6	0.6	2.4	2.2	3.6	9.8
3	Fernandez	09-Aug	POR	2.1	1.1	0.3	1.45	1.5	13.5


* Including all Rebounding stats separate

As you can see, Mayo is leading with the PPG so far, but look at the rest of the stats. GO is leading in FIVE of the stats. Granted three of them are rebounding (could count as 1), but hey, he’s leading in them. Then look at the MPG, G, and GS, big difference. Imagine what this will look like when GO is getting close to the same amount of minutes. You can expect all of his numbers to go up, especially if he keeps dropping double doubles and getting noticeably better each night. I know this is a small sample size but I think we should definitely start looking at GO as a contender for ROY. What do you guys think?

Oden for ROY

Rudy for ROY

No way, it’s going to be Mayo, Beasley, or Rose… You’re a homer.

Let’s wait and see what happens

Poll

What do you think?

Oden for ROY

53 votes

Rudy for ROY

24 votes

No way, it’s going to be Mayo, Beasley, or Rose… You’re a homer

29 votes

Let’s wait and see what happens

44 votes

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You know what I voted (:

G.O. for R.O.Y.

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by j-blaze on Nov 19, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Me too

but the poll would be better if it included Co-ROYs

Rudy and Oden

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What're you doing? I don't know.

What're you thinking about? I don't know.

Who's that under you? I don't know. "
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by 92wastheyear on Nov 19, 2008 12:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Oooh your right!

I should have thought about that, maybe on my next update on this.

G.O. for R.O.Y.

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by j-blaze on Nov 19, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Anyway to edit it?

G.O. for R.O.Y.

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by j-blaze on Nov 19, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Edit fanpost, delete poll, make a new one

It’s the only path…one that you must choose for yourself…

Whoever was posting Oden up....was just stupid.
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by prezofdeath on Nov 19, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It'll delete the #s you have

But that’s ok. Not many people have voted yet.

by rmcdougall on Nov 19, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It's ok

Ill leave it be.

G.O. for R.O.Y.

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by j-blaze on Nov 19, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I voted Rudy

Because? I am leading the Rudy for ROY campaign. Duh.

Rudy for ROY
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"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez

by twiggs on Nov 19, 2008 12:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Oh no, now we'll have infighting

Between the Rudy for ROY and the Oden for ROY campaigns.

Personally, I’m pulling for Roy to get his ROY trophy back. I think he deserves it. Again.

by rmcdougall on Nov 19, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We want BUMPER stickers I tell you!

and Yard signs!

Whoever was posting Oden up....was just stupid.
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by prezofdeath on Nov 19, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I ordered these today

I only bought 5 for now because they were kinda spendy. I’ll let you know how they turn out :)

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by twiggs on Nov 19, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nice

G.O. for R.O.Y.

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by j-blaze on Nov 19, 2008 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

you're my hero

Whoever was posting Oden up....was just stupid.
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by prezofdeath on Nov 19, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

where is the option for Anthony Morrow?

Both Greg and Rudy have a shot. Rudy probobly has less of one, just because the American media doesn’t hype him as much as Rose/Beasley/Oden/Mayo.

I think the winner will be Rose, but I could easily imagine Oden being the most deserving by the end of the season.

For now, though, the league’s best rookie has been Morrow, at least according to Hollinger’s PER (Greg is 3rd, Rudy is 4th… both ahead of the Rose/Beas/Mayo triumvirate).

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by jksnake99 on Nov 19, 2008 12:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

The media is afraid to hype Morrow

Because, all things considered, he has the pedigree of a guy who has a few great games and flames out.

I think you’ll see a lot of Tom Brady-esque stories about Morrow if he can score 15+ a game until the all star break.

by rmcdougall on Nov 19, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

how 'bout Rod Smith

unheralded, undrafted guy who goes on to make a solid living.

Whoever was posting Oden up....was just stupid.
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by prezofdeath on Nov 19, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Who?

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by hobobob on Nov 19, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

sorry, Denver Broncos Wide Receiver

should have mentioned that I was switching sports on you.

Whoever was posting Oden up....was just stupid.
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by prezofdeath on Nov 19, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I doubt there's ever been a rookie

who put up back-to-back efficiency numbers, shooting from the perimeter, like Morrow’s put up these last two games. It’s amazing before you even consider the fact that he was undrafted.

I bet Georgia Tech’s coach is taking some serious flak from his buddies – T.Young didn’t put up huge numbers either, but at least he was a freshman and got enough burn to get in the lottery…

Too soon to say about Oden v. Rose v. Mayo, but I think it’s a three horse race. Rudy won’t get enough shots or media hype, and people don’t think of him as a “real” rookie. I agree with what somebody else said – Greg will need AT LEAST 15 and 10 as his averages to really be in the mix. Mayo and Rose have the luxury of taking as many shots as they want. Greg does not.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Nov 19, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I think it will be

either Rose or Oden.

I think Rudy has the talent to win, but he’s not getting Rose minutes, nor will he be impacting games like Oden will later in the season.

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by iDea on Nov 19, 2008 12:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Why would we trade for a guy already on our team?

Does this get us a trade exception or something?

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by hobobob on Nov 19, 2008 12:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think if Greg

gets his PPG up closer to the others, which I think he can, he’ll be in serious centention with the other stats he brings. And you have to look at our team then too and see if we are winning( I think we will be). The other teams are not like Portland, even with the loss last night we have all seen something with our Blazers so far this year: we are coming a long a lot faster than any of anyone thought we would. Last year would we have taken 3-2 on a 5 game (2 back to back including tonight) roadstreak?

G.O. for R.O.Y.

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by j-blaze on Nov 19, 2008 12:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

If he averages 15, and 9

I think he’s a lock

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by everett on Nov 19, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

At least this is the last year we can hope for ROY

Maybe after this we can get on with winning some MVPs

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by hobobob on Nov 19, 2008 12:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

That would be nice.

That almost deserves a fanpost in itself! Who is going to be our first league MVP? Roy is obviously the only one in line for it at this point.

G.O. for R.O.Y.

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by j-blaze on Nov 19, 2008 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Oden needs at least 15 and 10 to compete

Rose and Mayo are putting up some ridiculous numbers.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Nov 19, 2008 12:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah and hes not to far away from that.

His PPG figures in hist first two games as well 0, and 3. Since then hes scored 11,13,22. If he keeps gettin between 10-20 that should average out to about 15. My hope is that as he gets more comfotable he will grab more rebounds. Anyone notice last night he didn’t have as big of a game defensively? Maybe because he was focusing on offense, maybe it was playing GS, who knows. It will come. Oden for ROY!

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by j-blaze on Nov 19, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think Oden will get ROY...

Although he will be close with 20/10 and 3 or 4 blocks a game coming off the BENCH! :) If he keeps progressing at the current rate (which won’t happen…) by the all star break he’ll be averaging 40 points, 20 boards, and 15 blocks a game. Maybe he can get league mvp and average a quadruple double for the second half of the season. ;)

Bottom line is, once he gets his conditioning at a higher level which will come with more time, if he can stay out of foul trouble, and stop shuffling his feet, he will be nearly unstoppable. All but two or three teams are going to have to double or triple team him every time he gets the ball. Plus the guy his his free throws. So not only can they not defend him one on one, they can’t risk fouling him. I like to think that Oden will be compared to someone like Olajuwon rather than Shaq.

by tmundal on Nov 19, 2008 12:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Coming off the bench?

I don’t think Oden’s coming off the bench for too much longer. Oden is NOT the backup center, lol.

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by j-blaze on Nov 19, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah yeah..

I know he will be starting before too awfully long, but how much must it suck for other teams second units to have to deal with him? LOL.

by tmundal on Nov 19, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

how about 6th man of the year?

Averaging 40,20, and 15m he’ll be the first player to lock up the ROY, 6th man and MVP all in one season. On second thought, he probably won’t win MVP. Imagine the type of number Pryz will be putting up in order to keep Oden out of the starting lineup.

by keephopealive on Nov 20, 2008 3:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I actually think Rose and Oden will be Co-ROY this year

Rose has been so impressive so early, it’s hard to imagine him not putting up similar numbers or even better as the season goes on. Additionally, how good the team is usually doesn’t factor into ROY voting.

I think Oden will get significantly better as the season progresses because his body will get more conditioned, and people will take notice of how much better defensively the Blazers will be because of him.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 19, 2008 12:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Too soon.

But I don’t think Rudy stands a chance, next to Oden. Oden’s gotten better with each game and we have no idea when that trend will stop. Was last night the norm, or a sub-par game from him? Either way, Rose has to be the next serious contender. His numbers look Roy-esque (that’s “Roy”, not necessarily “R.O.Y.”, though they’re sorta the same thing). That kid’s gonna be a star. I have a huge man-crush on Rudy — like everybody else I know — but he doesn’t have to lead a team the way Rose does. Rudy’s an “energy” guy, but Rose is the future of his organization. There’s a big difference.

by fart on Nov 19, 2008 1:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

i love rudy and oden but im biased

so instead im going to withhold my opinion until the all star break, i think OJ Mayo and Beasley have benefitted in a way, teams will adjust to them and their game.

Oden and Rudy have such good skills that adjustments are difficult, and their work rate is quite high.

If i had my way they would be co-rookie of the year, and bayless/batum will make the All rookie team.

by Yawnie on Nov 19, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Batum may make the rookie team, but I really don't think Bayless will be there

at this point anyway. Beasely is simply too ugly to ever win anything. OJ shares his name with infamy, so people will shy away from him just because they don’t want to award OJ anything.

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by hobobob on Nov 19, 2008 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs