Warriors Late Look: Eyewitness Report
As often happens with Golden State games we get a look from my old friend Eric who lives in the Bay Area and with whom I've been talking Blazers via e-mail for 10+ years. (Met on an old Blazers AOL board or something back in the '90's.)
Eric writes:
I attended the Warriors game, and thought I would give some impressions, albeit brief. Since the professional writers are pretty thorough, and this being one of the more controversial games in a while, there will likely be a lot of discussion on this game. Outside of the basic analysis, I just wanted to let Oregon based Blazer fans know that there are a lot of Blazer fans in the Bay Area. I noticed a lot of Blazer gear tonight (in fact sat next to a couple of Blazer fans), all throughout the arena, as well as a pretty vocal section in the upper deck. However, I'm pretty sure I was the only one with a BE shirt! Other things probably not noticed on TV ... after one of his put back dunks, GO was heading back to the bench after the W's called timeout. As he approached the bench, I finally saw Greg break into a sheepish grin as I think Frye came up to high five him -- it was great to see him having some fun. And, I'm not exaggerating, but after some of GO's dunks, the entire basket, 24 second clock, et al, would be shaking for a least 10-15 seconds. His power is ... awesome. During time outs, I noticed Rudy and Sergio talking a lot to each other. They have a thing going, even if they didn't connect much tonight. Also, McMillan really works overtime on his mini-white board during time outs. The guy works furiously diagramming whatever it is.
I'm definitely a Blazer homer, but trying to be as objective as possible, that was one of the worst officiated games I've seen in a while. Before my venting, let me say that the Warriors for the most part earned the victory, most notably with their FTs. I don't think I've ever seen Biedrins shoot better than 50% in a game, but the Warriors as a team shooting 94%, including 19-19 in the 4th?! Never. The undrafted, never-before-heard-of rookie Morrow could be the real deal. 37 followed by an EASY looking 25. It's been a while since I've seen a player where I think, did he even miss once? Nelson's wacky system again had the Blazers confused, and as far as in game coaching, Nelson definitely had the upper-hand on McMillan. The Warriors always had the Blazers a little off-kilter on defense, and their quick rotations on defensive end never allowed LMA to get into any flow. Credit Maggette for some tough D, but also negative kudos to LMA for never being able to take advantage of his 4-5" height advantage. In those situations, I'm fine with LMA just doing a catch and shoot, but time and time again, he would isolate on the low block, receive the entry pass, and then become totally confused by all the looks the Warriors were giving him. Even if he misses, I think it's a higher percentage play than him trying to back in, back in, then have a Warrior midget blind side and force a scrum. Plus, with Oden out there, teams will be so intent on preventing GO put-back slams, than our other weak side players will have more opportunities for put backs.
As to the refs, I'm somewhat incredulous still, and that was even before the last 30 seconds. As this was my first Oden live game, I decided to keep particular attention on the kid, and holy cow...let's just say I'm absolutely salivating at the prospect of seeing an in-shape GO, perhaps by the BE game. Anyhow, the guy just gets repeatedly hammered down low. It will be like Shaq before long where the refs could literally call a foul every time, but in this game there were several times where he was blatantly fouled, and no call. The worst one was when he was coming off a pick and roll, was ready to put a 2 down thunder dunk down, Jackson whacks him across the wrists, and no call. And the 3 second call was an absolute joke. So, 4 crucial points lost there. Then the Travis over the line on the FT call -- are you kidding me? When's the last time you've seen that call, in junior high? Maybe high school? And the Rudy foul on Morrow -- come on, in the last few seconds you call that? Moreover, if anything, it looked like Morrow had more elbow into Rudy than the other way (I'll have to see the replay though). Granted, Roy probably got a couple of All-Star calls (like the sound of that...), but overall, the Warriors definitely got the home cooked reffing tonight. Of course, the game should never have come down to the last minute, but the Blazers just looked half-asleep for half the game. Even though it's early in the season still, the team looked like it could have used another day off. So, even though they did not get the win, you can still see that this team has so much potential. Despite LMA's awful game, they were still in it till the end, and against a team like the Warriors, you can see where Martell will be an asset. Nice to see Sergio having fun and getting some PT. He had one bad decision on a fast break, but for the most part looked under control, (perhaps too much under control?) and his shot was dropping too. Once GO gets into shape, McMillan really should let this team run more, and he needs to loosen the leash on Sergio a little. Granted, Serg is playing more like the disciplined PG that Mac likes, but I think you need to let him do some of his creative, crazy things too, especially with Rudy alongside.
A frustrating game in many ways, but overall, I liked the perseverance of the team, despite a couple of uncharacteristically bad TOs, Roy was Roy, his usual unspectacularly spectacular self, Travis is working hard on D, Rudy is truly fun and I really thought he was going to nail that crucial 3 in the home stretch, Pryz was his usual efficient self and is getting better at catching in traffic, but the man of the hour is Oden -- Wow is about all I can say.
Great stuff on Oden in person. Portland fans get to see for themselves tonight! Thanks again, Eric!
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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at the verrrrryyyyy end (4:10 mark) of the video 2 posts down you can see the 24 second clock shaking. the safety chains are doing the soulja boy dance.
by Ben. on Nov 19, 2008 1:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
In the heat of the moment I said...
I’m beginning to see the career of LMA go the way of Joe Smith
I hope he proves me wrong. PLEASE. Prove me wrong. I want to be wrong.
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by blzrfan on Nov 19, 2008 1:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't sweat that one too much.
LMA has had bad games before—particularly when he’s not well-rested. He generally bounces back big-time. This guy is still young and has shown a tremendous desire to improve. Plus he’s dang talented.
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by hurryup09 on Nov 19, 2008 2:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
man was he terrible last night
terrible.
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by jksnake99 on Nov 19, 2008 8:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not entirely his fault
He was in foul trouble most of the night. It’s easy to have an off night when you’re not getting the calls you want.
by ChampFantana on Nov 19, 2008 10:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post. Thanks for the eyewitness account, Eric!
Watching on t.v., I thought fatigue, poor officiating (Delaney may even have a bias against the Blazers), and Golden State’s exceptionally high shooting percentage from the foul line and 3-point-range were the difference. But once this Blazers team has been together awhile, they should win games like this regardless of what the opponent or the refs do. We need to remember that the Blazers are integrating three rookies (four tonight!).
Also, as you said, GO isn’t in condition yet. We can expect to see a lot more from him as he rounds into game shape and develops more chemistry with his new teammates.
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by hurryup09 on Nov 19, 2008 1:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
ALL 2 FAMILIAR
this was just a rerun of the utah and suns game … blazers have to play the refs harder than the other team
by nm505 on Nov 19, 2008 2:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agree
The Blazers need a coach like Poppovich who knows how to work the refs. Nate doesn’t seem to have the motivational talent…he just falls back on “if we take care of our stuff, the refs shouldn’t matter”
Sor-ry, but “working” the refs is a large part of being a championship-caliber coach
by two4larue on Nov 19, 2008 10:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fun with pictures
I had some fun with pictures and words (mainly from the first half) on what was not a very fun result in the end…
Blazers @ Warriors (in pictures)
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by mookie on Nov 19, 2008 3:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
hey
I have some blazer pics from Courtside (i was at the game) If I email them to you, can you put em up? I dont have a website to paste the URL so i can post em here. I was 4 -rows back from blazer bench.
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by lanepete on Nov 19, 2008 7:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
definitely
Hit me with an email and I’ll put them up and link them here…
my email is mookie (at) asternwarning.com
Nice work.
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by mookie on Nov 19, 2008 8:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I, too, was at the game
and will just add my own thoughts, player by player. I’m no expert so take my opinions with a grain of salt.
The Blazers would have been better served if LMA had missed the team flight down or had been sick. I was happy when he fouled out and wish it had happened sooner. He needed to find a way to exploit his height advantage over Maggette and he failed miserably.
Not too much to say about Oden other than he’s a big dude and dunks hard. His footwork needs a lot of work and so does his conditioning (I didn’t see him jump much). He was really doggin’ it there at the end and Biedrins took advantage for an easy layup. He also looked lost on offense most of the time. He hung around the paint, but would be late in setting picks or late in establishing position. It got better towards the end of the game, but it’s something he needs to work on. He does have a nice free throw stroke so he’ll be able to make teams pay for hacking him. If he develops just one credible offensive move then he can score 30 ppg no problem.
I don’t care about how many points he had, but Roy didn’t play that well. He never found his rhythm and I don’t understand why he’s a bad free throw shooter.
Rudy did foul the dude at the end. I saw him grab the elbow. He has a nice shot and my date explained why he’s popular with the ladies though she prefers Steve Blake.
Rodriguez played really well. He was able to beat the press/trap and never really dribbled out of control. His defense was credible and I didn’t see too many "ole"s out there either.
Bayless looked like a rookie and should’ve stayed nailed to the bench.
Frye is just filler and doesn’t provide much. I’m betting that his minutes decrease as the season goes on unless someone gets hurt.
Outlaw is…crazy. He can outjump everyone in the gym. I saw him get a rebound over Oden. However, every time he had the ball, I whispered to myself, “Please don’t shoot. Please don’t shoot.” His shot is wicked ugly with this strange sidespin so you can’t tell when he lets it go if it has a chance or not. He played great defense since he’s quick and long. I think he needs a little more discipline on offense since he doesn’t pass much once he gets the ball.
Przy was efficient and deserves to start while Oden gets in shape. He has little offensive game, but he can clean up around the rim and sets good picks.
Blake shot well early on, but then became more of a distributor later in the game. He’s solid, just like, Pryz, and should make a good backup PG in the next few years.
Most of the Warriors’ fans couldn’t believe the W’s almost threw the game away, but I think they deserved to win simply because they out-coached Portland. Nelson found the matchups he wanted and exploited them. Portland is a long team, but not a particularly fast team.
by torsoheap on Nov 19, 2008 7:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You can say that again...
I think they deserved to win simply because they out-coached Portland.
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by timbo on Nov 19, 2008 7:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Turning the ball over 21 times
when you average 11 turnovers a game doesn’t have much, if anything, to do with being “outcoached.” Nor does shooting 69% from the line. If the Blazers turn the ball over 3 fewer times and shoot their average from the free-throw line, they win, regardless of coaching. Players play.
by Lance Uppercut on Nov 19, 2008 8:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Players play
but the coach determines which players are on the floor together.
by torsoheap on Nov 19, 2008 9:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don Nelson
cannot out coach Nate. His team plays like a bunch of fire ants… just crazy aimless activity all the time! Its nuts and this is coming from a person that is not Nate’s biggest fan!
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by BlazerFan1 on Nov 19, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So
The conclusion must be; either the turnovers, free throws, or Golden State is just a better team than us….We should have known what to expect from them? Their hap hazard play can beat you, if you don’t prepare …..or defend?….no lessons learned regardless…..You simply cannot outscore a team like Golden State…you have to get some stops…..Could it be coaching or just bad defending players?
I know one thing we didn’t do, and that is take advantage of our match ups…… and this is where you could make a case for Nelson out-coaching Nate….He always has been successful at that….
by 67 on Nov 19, 2008 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm....
unknown rookie free agent drops 37 in game before. Let’s see. Why don’t we zone him and dare him to beat us again?
by torsoheap on Nov 19, 2008 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
the team did not play well, but there were a lot of things out there that coaching could have helped with…..may have been enough to change the outcome of the game….you got the talent, and the enormous mismatch with height and you still have the ability to play small ball with them…..and it was Nelson that took the small advantage he had, to a win…..that advantage was poor perimeter defense by the Blazers…..defense =the backbone of good teams and is what, currently, separates us from being at the next level or 2….
by 67 on Nov 20, 2008 9:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Rudy foul
How this play is perceived might just come down to the team colored glasses being worn. Mine being rose red, saw the play differently. It looked like another poor inbounds pass that Rudy took advantage of and made the play. It was Morrow who was clearly yanking Rudy’s jersey off his body. The final straw however was Rudy getting T’d and allowing GSW to finally salt away the win.
Despite that, GSW were hot all night, and killed us at the line. They deserved win as much as the PTB deserved to lose. We’ll get ’em next time.
by bow4meow on Nov 19, 2008 8:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BENCH BRANDON, START RUDY!!!!
lets see if an ego pokes it’s head out on that call!?!
seriously though, are brandons turnovers getting…..complacent? (forgive the spelling)
see ya’ll at lunch.
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by faith on Nov 19, 2008 7:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers didn't show up
That’s what happened. Overconfident. Lazy. Whatever the case getting down 9-0 before you even start to sweat is terrible and is indicative of one team being serious and one team not being serious. Guess which was which. The rest of the game was more of the same. GS wanted to win, so they did.
Thank God at least this thread isn’t overwhelmed by whining about the refs already. Most of the other threads about last night’s game look like the ESPN fan forums. Ugh.
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by leeroyjenkins on Nov 19, 2008 8:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts from the game
I posted some last night, but really it was great to be at the game. I was able to directly hear nate in the huddles (he certainly does work the whiteboard, and seems very angry at times, which is understandablE). Oden DEFINITELY looked like he was having fun when he came back a couple times. All the guys after his first huge dunk were off their feet and looked as excited as we were. One rebound i bet most didnt catch, was that Oden rose up and literally palmed the ball away from Biedrins off the rim. One handed rebound no cupping or pulling it towards the body, literally up and palmed it. But one thing that did concern me was that i am not sure i saw him leave the ground for blocks like he has in the past. Maybe he was tired, somehow he still managed 2 blocks, but many times his defense was somewhat lazy, i suspect conditioning.
Misc:
- Refs were bad, but we got some easy calls too, although that slap of jackson on Oden’s dunk was easily an and-1
- bayless never looks happy
- warriors fans love them some Oden dunks
- Rudy and sergio do like each other….a lot.
I said this last night on the gameday thread when i got home, but it really does dishearten me that so many warriors fans were making fun of oden’s injuries yelling out “i hope you get hurt again” – “dont break!” – etc etc. I find that in poor taste.
Other than that, i will be at the Februrary game, same seats, so ill try to get some better re-cap. But, i have some good pics of them in huddles, and on the bench (was 5 feet from the bench) but I am not sure if I can post them without first uploading to a different site (anyone help?).
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by lanepete on Nov 19, 2008 8:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
TrueHoop discusses Oden today
Henry notes that, despite Oden’s strong showing, he doesn’t make the Blazers better right now. Indeed, Oden had the worst plus/minus rating in last night’s game… Joel tied two Warriors for the best rating, at +10.
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by jksnake99 on Nov 19, 2008 8:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I watched the game, and I read that article. I disagree that you hang the loss on Oden's head
The team played bad last night. The TEAM played bad last night. THE TEAM PLAYED BAD LAST NIGHT.
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by leeroyjenkins on Nov 19, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that GO's positive impact on that game was at least debatable
I haven’t read the True Hoop piece yet. But I did feel that, despite the nice numbers last night, GO played better vs the Wolves. But here’s the thing: the fault is at least as much with Greg’s teammates and the Blazers’ coaching staff as it is with GO. In particular, some guys look like they’ve never thrown an entry pass in their lives!
Not to worry. As rusty and out of shape as GO still is, it now should be clear to one and all that he has the tools to help this team get to the next level. They just need to develop chemistry playing together. And in the end, that’s what this season is about—working in GO and the other new players. Hopefully, they’ll start to gell in time to make the playoffs. If they do come together in time to accomplish that, NO ONE—and I include the Lakers—is going to want to face this loaded Blazers line-up.
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by hurryup09 on Nov 19, 2008 9:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
W's side of the equation
Appreciate the comment that the W’s earned the victory despite the foul calls, mighty big of you.
Here’s my point though re: uncalled fouls on GO – The W’s Andris Biedrens has FINALLY started getting respect and love from the Zebras and it’s his 3rd year playing. Give it time and GO will be getting all those ticky tacky calls that the refs would not whistle last night.
by GeeEssDub on Nov 19, 2008 9:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Eric
I used to represent Blazerdom down there at Sac and GS games when I lived and worked in the Bay Area. Brought back some memories!
Tough loss for us – hopefully we take it out on da’bulls.
by Knobby on Nov 19, 2008 10:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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