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    The other day I had a conversation with my pastor about sports, he talked about how he didnt like the NBA because he believes the game is rigged. I disagreed with him telling him that the NFL is rigged but due to all the blazer games this year Im on his side.

    I have never ever seen such bad calls in 1 game, I can understand reffs. making 5, 6 ,7 bad calls a game because thats how they come especially in the pac-10 but this Blazer Warrior game was RIDICULUS.        The reffs. at that game deserver a 20 game suspension.

    And the call against rudy was complete @##&*#&&#&#&#&#&&#&#&&#&#&&#&# . The reffs are too into their fantasy basketball teams trying to beat the other people in the league, not to mention betting big money on it too

    I personally think that they targeted Lamarcus Aldridge, he played like 14 mins because of the calls that were against him.

    The blazers deserved that game but the reffs. took it away

    We should start a petition and send it to the NBA!!!!!!

    Next game Blazers vs. Bull + Reffs

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there were some doozies tonight

but I have noticed that if I look at the game day thread of the other team, someone is always there claiming the refs are conspiring against THEM, so I just don’t get too worked up anymore.

by Section323 on Nov 18, 2008 10:21 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

The entire game up untill the last 3 min

I did not care if we lost the game. Greg looked amazing and that was good enough for me. But those last plays….so mad I don’t even want to think about it.

"Brandon Roy is your favorite restaurant" - Dave

by Sabonis4Ever on Nov 18, 2008 10:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

lol

rec’d

Whoever was posting Oden up....was just stupid.
by Eventine

by prezofdeath on Nov 18, 2008 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

he probably has 8 different screen names and recs his own posts with his virtual alter egos

kind of like insider trading.

We cannot put up with this flagrant lack of accountability anymore.

by MT Suit on Nov 18, 2008 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I was gonna' say he only needs five

but he probably has three extras, just so people don’t get suspicious of why the same five people are always recing his posts.

Whoever was posting Oden up....was just stupid.
by Eventine

by prezofdeath on Nov 18, 2008 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

If you really need affirmation, start a Junk Drawer some morning. I guarantee you'll get 5.

"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard

by timbo on Nov 19, 2008 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

you got 15 the other day for yours

just not fair

Whoever was posting Oden up....was just stupid.
by Eventine

by prezofdeath on Nov 19, 2008 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha!

you seem to know his tactics surprisingly well…TOO well if you ask me…

::blows whistle on Timbo doppelganger::

by BlazersOrBust on Nov 19, 2008 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec'd to help you tip the scales!

Go Winchester, go!

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Nov 18, 2008 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Hell, I'll rec that, too!

"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard

by timbo on Nov 19, 2008 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

rec part for ya.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Nov 19, 2008 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

refs have an off night too

some times. This was an example of that. There were at least 6 calls that were blatantly wrong. I don’t think it was rigged, just terrible officiating. I think the NBA should review the tapes and address this somehow. If the flop rule was in place magette would be paying big time.

by The Natural ala Mode on Nov 18, 2008 10:25 PM PST reply actions  

The look on the ref's face when he called the "T"

“Who the heck is this guy?”

Can I buy you a fish sandwich?

by silkybrown on Nov 18, 2008 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that makes me mad more than anything else

you don’t call technicals at that point in the game when it is still up for grabs. You let the players decide it. A technical foul gave them 3 total FTs on that play plus the ball back.

WWKPD?

by Magnum on Nov 18, 2008 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

How long until the league blacks out replays?

Cause man that would help keep my blood pressure down during games like this. Did the refs confuse aldridge with pryz or something. But hey that see through breakaway jersey rudy had on during that last play was pretty slick!!!! The way it reached out and grabbed that guys hand that was crazy!!!!

by Tyler Durrden on Nov 18, 2008 10:30 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I didn't see the game...

but i hear it was quite controversial?

Rip City REVIVAL

by HonestPete on Nov 18, 2008 10:31 PM PST reply actions  

I can hardly respond with actual words

it was so bad my caveman instincts are taking over! RAWWRRRR ME ANGRY!

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Nov 18, 2008 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Worse

Blazer's Edge Ambassador to The Dream Shake Blog

by LaMarvelous on Nov 18, 2008 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The referee job was horrible

But it wasn’t much worse than Portland in the 2nd quarter. The Blazers did as much of a job of shooting themselves in the foot tonight as anyone. Many turnovers, offensive rebounds given up, etc etc etc. The game was up for grabs, but Portland didn’t grab it.
Chicago is going to get destroyed tomorrow.

Can I buy you a fish sandwich?

by silkybrown on Nov 18, 2008 10:31 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah they stunk up the floor tonight,

but I think they could have stolen another one tonight if the refs would’ve called it straight. It makes me wonder if the refs are scared being in oakland and all,

by Tyler Durrden on Nov 18, 2008 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Refs didn't do us any favors tonight...

Nevertheless, LMA frustrates the hell out of me. If he is going to be one of our Big 3, he cannot have games where he fouls out with 4 points. He needed to establish himself in the low post against the undersized Golden State defenders, but instead he stayed on the perimeter, missed a lot of jumpers, picked up a lot of offensive fouls and cheap fouls, and let himself get frustrated.

On the bright side, another good night for Greg, despite some continued mistakes mostly due to inexperience. And more good stuff from Sergio.

by socalblazer on Nov 18, 2008 10:32 PM PST reply actions  

I agree completely.

Time For The Spanish Guard To Step Up

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 18, 2008 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe

but he was getting called for just trying to establish position. Aside from folding his arms together I cant see what he did to get those fouls when he was establishing position on the block.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Nov 18, 2008 10:34 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Can LMA learn to play with Oden?

I expected to see more of the high-low game, with LMA spotting for open jumpers at 15-18 feet

If Frye and LMA aren’t going to compliment GO’s low post game, maybe the TBs need a “different” PF?

by two4larue on Nov 19, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Meh. We play defense like that, we deserve to lose.

and other than the last call on Rudy, I thought the refereeing was pretty decent. LMA deserved the fouls he got called, I have no idea what he thought he was doing clearing out on every move.

by howlingfantods on Nov 18, 2008 10:35 PM PST reply actions  

yes, where he was clearly out of the semi circle

Can anyone name one time in the 4th quarter where a GS player got fouled going hard to the rim and not out around the FT line or further out? That’s how you earn fouls late in the game. I can live with Wade going hard to the hoop and getting calls, but GS was benefiting from every minor bump on the perimeter.

WWKPD?

by Magnum on Nov 18, 2008 10:40 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

*shrug* the calls favored GS a bit

but no more than you’d expect for any home team foul calling.

I dunno why everyone’s up in arms — we played like crap on d, threw the ball away like it was hot, didn’t seem to respect the level of competition, got caught by surprise in the start of the game, didn’t seem to know who Anthony Morrow was and didn’t start guarding him until he scored 20, we deserved to lose.

by howlingfantods on Nov 18, 2008 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

sadly, agreed

learning experience for sure

by Section323 on Nov 18, 2008 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, we didn't deserve to win

but that’s different from getting completely hosed by the refs for an entire quarter.

WWKPD?

by Magnum on Nov 18, 2008 10:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not arguing that it was the Blazers fault for losing the game, but....

how could we tell how good their D was in the 4th when nearly each trip resulted in free throws. It seemed that each time a stop was likely, tweet tweet.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Nov 19, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

being out of the semi circle

is not the only criteria for drawing an offensive foul. Player must be set. LMA only had one foot set.

by Blazin' on Nov 19, 2008 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

He was actually planted.

Rudy for ROY
Campaign 08-09

"Rudy is not everyday a shooter." ~Rudy Fernandez

by twiggs on Nov 19, 2008 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

FIRMLY and for about 3 years

I didn’t see where his feet were though.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Nov 19, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

3 years ago he couldn't pass the Blazers strength test

now he’s dropping guys like pins at a bowling alley?

Not likely.

by McKnee on Nov 18, 2008 10:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the blazers but

the refs in the NBA just slay me.

there is a game behind the game and we are all dialed into it via Blazers edge and other media.

I think it’d be great if the refs could recap their own performance…. or if there were some sort of ‘fair and balanced’ oversight committee that would review each game.

The Blazers performance notwithstanding, the officials had a material impact on the outcome of this game.

by McKnee on Nov 18, 2008 10:37 PM PST reply actions  

MSNBC

And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.

by RipCity on Nov 18, 2008 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

*jumps off a cliff*

Time For The Spanish Guard To Step Up

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 19, 2008 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

WIns from the loss

The calls were terrible, but on the bright side Oden killed it. If tonight was a sign of things to come our future is looking great. Sergio is also starting to find his shot now and is really earning his extended playing time. The one thing I would have liked to see at the end of the game though would be to have Roy be a bit more assertive in the offense, he doesn’t quite look comfortable with all the new faces around him yet.

by ro on Nov 18, 2008 10:38 PM PST reply actions  

quote from AP PRESS

“Fernandez then was called for holding on the inbounds play, and the Spanish star compounded his obvious foul by drawing a technical foul for arguing. Morrow hit all three free throws to ice it.”

RUKIDDINGME?!!?!!?

by Blazerland on Nov 18, 2008 10:40 PM PST reply actions  

I will say that the Blazers broadcast has been known to edit replays to make our guy look "right"

that happened with the Jarrett Jack “fight” last year, and it sounds like Rudy may have fouled well before Morrow’s hold on him.

by Section323 on Nov 18, 2008 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not so sure about editing replays

But I’ll buy that they’re really good at showing particular camera angles and not showing other angles. That’s one thing I learned from the “fight” last year.

by Corvid on Nov 18, 2008 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

that's what I mean, really

they don’t take anything out, but they show the “good angle.”

by Section323 on Nov 18, 2008 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh dare they show that angle that shows Rudy's shirt being pulled off!!!

The outrage!! They should showed the angle where Rudy put his shirt in that dude’s hand…..total cover up

"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.

What're you doing? I don't know.

What're you thinking about? I don't know.

Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso

by 92wastheyear on Nov 18, 2008 10:56 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

not that, actually

but others are claiming that Rudy had already fouled well before he was manhandled.
I was too nervous to watch live, so I didn’t see it.

by Section323 on Nov 18, 2008 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh ...nope

Rudy had a half step and his shirt was held…that’s about it

"Fez, the foundation of any good relationship is three little words: I-don't-know.

What're you doing? I don't know.

What're you thinking about? I don't know.

Who's that under you? I don't know. "
-Michael Kelso

by 92wastheyear on Nov 18, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

haha i spent about 2 minutes real time laughing at that one

rec’d

Whoever was posting Oden up....was just stupid.
by Eventine

by prezofdeath on Nov 18, 2008 11:43 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

I couldn’t believe that got into an AP story.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Nov 18, 2008 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I for one am tired of using bad calls to explain losing

on the bright side this team does not seem to be as affected by bad calls as squads in the past, but that just makes it even more frustrating. To see these guys just playing through it and playing hard, and watching it be stolen from them.

by Tyler Durrden on Nov 18, 2008 10:44 PM PST reply actions  

i agree

i dont blame the loss on that call or any of the others combined but its not okay to make such terrible calls.

by Blazerland on Nov 18, 2008 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

One sign of a really good team in the NBA is a team that can win on an off night.

The Minni game is a good example. Portland is getting very close to that kind of rare air. I wanted that win tonight in the worst way.

by Rick C in Tigard on Nov 18, 2008 10:44 PM PST reply actions  

The calls were weird because the game was weird.

There are going to be a lot of borderline calls in a game that sloppy.

Greg Oden traveled a lot. He shuffled his feet and got away with it. If the Refs wanted to kill the Blazers wouldn’t they have made more calls against Oden?

Let’s not get crazy here. There was a lot of contact by both teams. Rudy and Morrow were both holding each other. The call was borderline, but not ridiculous.

by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 18, 2008 10:50 PM PST reply actions  

That Rudy Morrow call was not the only call.. Did you watch the whole game? IMO the game wouldn't have been close if it was a different set of refs.

They took things way out of proportion. Just look at how much it effected Lamarcus’s game. Inside the restricted area is just one of the unnecessary fouls called

by Stegie33 on Nov 18, 2008 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I watched it.

I have it on TiVo. I replayed the Marrow call a bunch of times and Rudy clearly fouled him first.

Do you remember Stephen Jackson getting called for being in the restricted area when he barely bumped Greg? There were a bunch of BORDERLINE calls. I didn’t see any obviously bad ones.

by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 18, 2008 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

aldridge call on his 6th wasnt borderline

because the ref said it because LA was in the circle which wasnt even close.

by Blazerland on Nov 18, 2008 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

...

I would give less blame to the Refs, More credit to Magette.

Time For The Spanish Guard To Step Up

by TheGreatDane17 on Nov 19, 2008 12:24 AM PST up reply actions  

The end was disappointing yes,

but I have to agree with rick C. We are close to getting to that level of being a team that wins on really bad nights. We almost won tonight turning the ball over 20 times, shooting an abysmal % from the FT line, getting out rebounded, out hustled, out scrapped, and ran. The fact that the game was so close was really quite astonishing to me….well maybe not. We did have some guy who is officially a draft bust crushing everyone in his path. He might have had something to do with us keeping it close.

by dario argento on Nov 18, 2008 10:51 PM PST reply actions  

that may just as much about GS

as it does about us. golden state doesnt really have an identity other than shoot and shoot more. and that 4 guards thing.

by Blazerland on Nov 18, 2008 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

What game were you watching?

Didn’t you see Oden sleeping on the floor in the fourth quarter. And that play where Biedrens knocked the popcorn and hot dog out of his hand? And what about when it took him about five minutes to tie his shoes? And I sware I saw him playing a psp. GOD what a horrible pick!!!

by Tyler Durrden on Nov 18, 2008 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

There's truth to all of that

the Blazers should have played better. But certainly the timeliness of the bad calls which all went against us was striking. I’m a fan of “let the players play” and I hate to see the game end like this. I wonder if the ref just wasn’t tired and ready for bed or something.

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Nov 18, 2008 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

And, as usual, he's gonna be right

The officials didn’t lose this game. It’s time to learn and move on.

by Corvid on Nov 18, 2008 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

just because the officials didnt lose the game for us doesnt mean its okay to make terrible calls.

by Blazerland on Nov 18, 2008 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

No, chances are that the Blazers

could have lost just fine on their own. I would have liked to have been able to determine that based on the play on the court. The timing of many of these calls, more than anything, is what killed this for me.

Chris Dudley for three!

by wilbjammin on Nov 18, 2008 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's the question I have.

The NBA is my favorite sport to watch, but I LOVE the NCAA tournament.

There are 65 games every year in the NCAA tourney (right?). I watch as many as I possibly can.

I can’t remember ONE game from any NCAA tournament that I thought was decided by one bad call or a ref. Not one. The only game I can remember where the refs were even bad was Oregon’s loss to Florida a couple years back (or maybe it was last year?)… The difference there was that the Ducks played a terrible game as well.

The Blazers didn’t play well tonight, but neither did the Warriors. The bottom line is that this game came down to something more than the two teams on the court. Are college refs really that much better than NBA refs? Really? Something has to be going on here.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Nov 18, 2008 11:02 PM PST reply actions  

Are the rules written differently? Or is it a style thing?

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Nov 18, 2008 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

skill level i think

nba players are probably much better at protecting the ball, shielding and such. which makes bail out calls and normal calls more common. i also think that they let college players scrap a lot more. see a lot more of those loose ball hustle plays go without a whistle. which is partly why march madness is one of the best times of the year.

by Blazerland on Nov 18, 2008 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

what is the something more that is going on?

Are you suggeting something nefarious on the part of the refs? Perhaps some dark vegas mafia scenario?

We cannot put up with this flagrant lack of accountability anymore.

by MT Suit on Nov 18, 2008 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Tim Donaughy

Travis Outlaw is an alien, but in a good way.

Awesome Graphic was provided by CIC, because he felt like he should be hazed.

by Clevelander among roses on Nov 18, 2008 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a good question.

I’m not really sure what could be happening; what I’m trying to say is that NCAA refs seem to be a lot better than NBA refs. That sounds backwards to me.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Nov 18, 2008 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that you have a selective memory on the college basketball point

2005 NCAA tournament. Villanova versus UNC. A very questionable traveling call in the final seconds basically gave UNC the win.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=254000022

by tingeyga on Nov 18, 2008 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the link.

I had forgotten about that one. I still maintain that there are more of these kinds of games in the NBA than in the NCAA, but it’s good to show that it does happen at the college level.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Nov 18, 2008 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Questionable calls in close games affect all sports at all levels

The difference between a questionable call in an NBA game in November versus an NCAA tournament game is that it is there is no tomorrow if you lose in the NCAA tournament, that closes out your season. However the Blazers season turns out, this game isn’t going to be the determining factor. If the Blazers miss the playoffs by a game some may point to this game as the reason, but there will be other games where the outcome was the result of a lucky/random result (like Roy’s 30 footer to beat Houston for example).

by tingeyga on Nov 19, 2008 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Just selective memory in general

The badly reffed games just aren’t the ones we remember, especially in the NCAA tournament where there are like 8 games a day and there’s always an exciting finish going on in one of them. The badly reffed games just aren’t the interesting ones.

I remember watching Greg’s tourney and seeing him play like 15 minutes a night until the championship because refs were repeatedly nailing him with the worst, ticky-tack fouls, but what sticks out about that tournament was his huge game against Florida.

On a similar note, I can’t remember any badly reffed NBA games from last season, but I can guarantee they still happened.

by Royster on Nov 19, 2008 7:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I mention the Oregon loss to Florida in another post someplace.

Oregon did play bad, well Porter couldn’t hit a three and shot over and over. If he had made just a few of them we would have one despite the clear bias against Oregon.

Should we in the NW even bother with national sports? Maybe we should just start new leagues that just play in the Pacific Northwest. British Collumbia can get in on it too if they want.

54/40 or fight!!!

by Blazersaurus on Nov 19, 2008 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

It just makes the victory sweeter

When you know your local teams have been jobbed by the east coast (or large market, LA) bias

for years

by two4larue on Nov 19, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

+2

I think.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Nov 18, 2008 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

at least in the NFL

they admit when the yuck is all up

by Blazerland on Nov 18, 2008 11:17 PM PST reply actions  

That's good of your Pastor

not to denegrate the entire league because a few times the game gets tipped a little by the refs. I mean, at least the church has never been politically motivated and engaged in foul play….

by einman77 on Nov 18, 2008 11:48 PM PST reply actions  

Pulled this from a quote on oregonlive

"Posted by BlazerMVP on 11/18/08 at 11:39PM

Contact: John Litvin
NBA President for League and Basketball Operations

Contact him at:

1-212-407-8000Press #1 for dial by directorySpell the last name for Litvin

Let’s bombard his inbox, as the ref association actually reports to him!

"Ronald L. Johnson, a two-star general who recently retired from active duty as deputy commanding general of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, will be responsible for all aspects of the NBA’s officiating program, including recruiting, training and development, scheduling, data management and analysis, and work rules enforcement.

Johnson will report to Joel Litvin, the NBA’s president for league and basketball operations." "

by Blazerland on Nov 18, 2008 11:58 PM PST reply actions  

For sure, tonight's game featured some serious home-cooking

The refs CAN’T be THAT blind. But to tell the truth, the officiating tonight didn’t seem all that much worse than NBA standard. Clearly, the league wants paying customers to go home happy, so the visiting team really needs to dominate in order to come away with a win. That’s just the way it is—even in the Rose Garden. I don’t like it, but it’s reality.

Bottom line: the Blazers—even as tired as they were—had no business letting the Warriors come close enough to beating them for the refs to matter. This current Blazer squad is so deep that even the ref’s ultimate weapon—putting a key player in foul trouble—shouldn’t hurt vs an opponent like the Warriors. I’m sorry: this current Warriors team just isn’t very good. And I’m a Bay Area native!

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 19, 2008 2:12 AM PST reply actions  

That's right

unless the L*kers come into the Rose Garden

or the Pistons, in the 1990 finals

etc

On the road, you’ve gotta be 10-15 points better than the home team to take the refs out of the final result, because they WILL give the home team 19 FTs in the 4th quarter, if that’s what it takes

by two4larue on Nov 19, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It's like playing NBA Jam.

If you’re not up by more than 3 with 2 seconds to play, YOU WILL LOSE. Every time.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Nov 19, 2008 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No

Stop blaming the refs

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Nov 19, 2008 7:15 AM PST reply actions  

I didn't see the game...

… so I have no opinion on the quality of the officiating.

However, just looking at the boxscore, I’d point to the missed free throws as a bigger factor than GS getting more calls.

(Granted, number of calls is not the only factor – I understand that when a foul is called can have a big impact.)

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Nov 19, 2008 7:43 AM PST reply actions  

I watched the game, it wasn't that bad (this coming from a Blazer homer)

Yeah there were a few bad calls just like in EVERY SINGLE NBA GAME EVER PLAYED.

Mostly I think our fans are more upset we lost to a crappy team and are looking for someone to blame.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Nov 19, 2008 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

and it sounds like one bad call at the very end. But if you come down to one bad call… you deserve that flip of the coin by lady luck.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Nov 19, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmmmmm.....
The reffs are too into their fantasy basketball teams trying to beat the other people in the league, not to mention betting big money on it too

"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard

by timbo on Nov 19, 2008 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

I haven't yet watched the game

Was busy with other stuff last night … but I caught little bits and pieces and it seemed like, every time I looked, Maggette was flopping around like a fish out of water. What kind of BS is that? Oden gets the ball and turns toward the basket, Maggette collapses in a heap and – bang! – offensive foul. Saw another one where he flopped when LaMarcus looked at him … bang! offensive foul. Total garbage calls.

Open invitation: all you who are self-proclaimed ping pong experts. If you think you can beat me - or if you just want to see how it's really played: cdd37@yahoo.com. This means you, too, Jerryd.

by TTRocks on Nov 19, 2008 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah.

I thought the flopping was supposed to stop this year.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Nov 19, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

The "threat" of a fine was just to appease fans, and everyone in the L knows it.

I will be absolutely amazed if a player actually gets fined for flopping this year.

Heck, I’ll be surprised if it EVER happens.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol

NorrisHopper30: "someone injure pubert jones"

by rockingharder on Nov 19, 2008 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It's called the game within the game

I believe Nate was talking about that the other day.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Nov 19, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Sheed used to say that

the NBA is as rigged as pro wrestling. After last night, he may not be far off.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Nov 19, 2008 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

I think that anybody who has watched the NBA as intensely as I have over the last 15 years

at some point along the way decides to quit bitching about the refs. It’s embarassing and doesn’t point to the real problems about why a team loses, and doesn’t give any credit to the other team. I watched the game last night. The game I saw had a Portland team that looked confused and frustrated by the Warriors defense and turned the ball over twice as much as they normally do. The game I saw had a Warriors team that was obviously motivated to win and had guys stepping up to play at a very high level. The game I saw had Nate McMillan trying in vain to figure how to match-up to the Warriors. The game I saw had Aldridge extremely frustrated, in foul trouble, and extremely ineffective. I was mildly frustrated with the calls, but to me it wasn’t unusually worse than any other game. There was nothing egregious about the calls, or lack of calls. The refs did not lose that game for us, we lost it for ourselves, and to say otherwise is to do discredit the Warriors effort, and excuse our own. If you really think the game’s rigged, why the heck to you even watch or care?

by Over Analysis on Nov 19, 2008 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

I agree that the blazers didn't play well enough to win...

But I think it’s kind of wierd that so many people are on here telling people to stop whining. This post was started mainly for people to vent, and a lot of it was done tongue in cheek. I for one think that it was awful that the game was that close and I believe that the onus is squarely on the Blazers. But after getting to vent a little on here I felt a whole lot better. Yeah a lot of my comments are sarcastic, but honestly my position is that when the blazers start playing a more decisive game this will not be an issue. But for crying out loud why do people get so enraged about people complaining about this. If you don’t like the things people are complaining about why are you reading it, or responding to it?

by Tyler Durrden on Nov 19, 2008 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't watch the fourth quarter

I didn’t see any calls that were too out of line. Aldridge deserved those four early fouls… except maybe one where it looked like his defender threw himself into aldridge a little to draw the contact. I believe they call that the game within the game though.

The Rudy call sounds like a bad call, but you play so you’re not in the position to be there in the first place.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Nov 19, 2008 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

of course

you play so you’re not in a position to be there. That doesn’t mean you don’t sometimes find yourself there! I don’t understand this line of reasoning.

by Blazin' on Nov 19, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

As a Warrior fan I agree about the officiating.

We outplayed you so bad if the calls were right we woul dhave had garbage time and won by 20!

by smearthebeard on Nov 19, 2008 4:55 PM PST reply actions  

Wow you guys just can;t take losing.

Win with class and lose with class. Man what a bunch of freakin cry babies! I can not wait to beat your asses again and see what excuse you have next time.

by smearthebeard on Nov 19, 2008 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

Smearthebeard!

Welcome to Blazer’s Edge!

I don’t know how things are done over at Golden State of Mind, but this post violates some of the BE Site Conversation Rules. Please take a moment to read them, especially #2 and #5.

If you wish to contribute positively to the conversation around here, you are more than welcome to stay. We love to argue (civilly) with those who disagree with us- especially fans of other teams that can give us a different perspective on the NBA.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I want to put points on your face."
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by rockingharder on Nov 19, 2008 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

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