Today's Poll

by Ben. on Nov 18, 2008 10:24 AM PST Comment 34 comments

Quickly: Following up on yesterday's "B Roy for MVP Candidate" talk, you can read the first results of the blogger ballots at Hoops Addict. A few of you had Brandon listed at or around #13 on your list. Congrats to you -- that's where he ended up.

Before we get to today's poll -- let's talk about the game notes that are available on the team's official site. Don't know what I'm talking about? See the same information that's available to media members before games by clicking here. In fact, the URL is...

http://www.nba.com/blazers/news/notes.pdf

If you simply change the team name in the URL, you can transport around the league to get the latest information about whatever team you desire. Cool trick. That's old hat to some of you, I'm sure. For others... now you know. Most of the info packet stays pretty much the same throughout the year, but Page 2 will always have good background on the upcoming opponent.

On to today's poll.

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

Poll

30 year old Stephen Jackson just signed a 3 year, 28 million dollar extension for the Warriors. What do you make of it?

Good deal for both parties.

236 votes

Great deal for the Warriors.

32 votes

Great deal for S Jax.

350 votes

I would have spent the money elsewhere.

162 votes

780 votes | Poll has closed

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I voted

Great deal for S. Jax. Me personally I am not too impressed with him, and think thats a lot of money. I havent really watched GS (other than last year) though so I am a little biased.

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by j-blaze on Nov 18, 2008 10:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think the Warriors probobly overpaid for him

but he’s a good player and he’s a leader for that team.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Nov 18, 2008 10:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Warriors fans are underwhelmed by the signing

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2008/11/17/664110/stephen-jackson-captain-fo#comments

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Nov 18, 2008 10:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Anytime you lock up a guy like Cap'n Jack for 10 million a year

it’s a good deal. Heck, Andrew BOGUT gets 11 million a year for cryin’ out loud!

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by prezofdeath on Nov 18, 2008 10:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

one guy over at GSOM posted this....puts Jackson's signing into perspective a little

1. Samuel Dalembert($10,500,000)
2.Kenny Thomas($7,942,187)
6. Steve Francis($19,814,480)
7.Wally Szcerbiak($13,000,000)
8. Nazr Mohammed ($6,049,400)
9. Larry Hughes ($12,827,676)
10.Eric Dampier ($9,550,000)
11. Troy Murphy ($10,126,984)
12.Tim Thomas ($6,049,400)
14. Antoine Walker ($9,320,500)
15. Darko Milicic ($7,000,000)
17. Dan Gadzuric ($6,246,250)
18. Jason Collins ($6,200,000)
19. Bobby Simmons ($9,920,000)
20. Rashard Lewis ($17,238,000)
21. James Posey (apprx. $8.5 million)
23. Etan Thomas ($6,860,000)
24.Nene ($9,680,000

in process of learning the Dvorak keyboard so my typing might be short, slow, & generally suckish.

by prezofdeath on Nov 18, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

how does Raef not make that list?

Also, the way Nene is playing so far… he should probobly be off the list. He’s earning his coin right now. Those do put the SJax signing in perspective though.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Nov 18, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ya, for a player like Jackson

It’s not that bad of a deal.

by rmcdougall on Nov 18, 2008 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Good list but more at GSW

Troy Murphy as above
Mike Dunleavy Jr.
Danny Fortson
Erick Dampier
Adonal Foyle

were also players with big extensions that flopped at GSW.

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by lee3022 on Nov 18, 2008 7:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather have Bogut than Jackson

Not for the Warriors system, but in general.

Bogut has out PER’d Jackson in each of the past three seasons.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Nov 18, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The game notes are cool

Well, not all teams are up to date though: http://www.nba.com/thunder/news/notes.pdf

by Norsktroll on Nov 18, 2008 10:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

maybe they got lost in the move, probably in the back of a ryder truck somewhere as we speak.

by Ben. on Nov 18, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Together with the person who wrote them. Or at least the task to write them.

by Norsktroll on Nov 18, 2008 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeh I tried this the other day on the Blazers website

and it sent me to the last game of the Randolph era. Good to see it’s updated and rolling again.

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by prezofdeath on Nov 18, 2008 10:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Oh, and on the poll I miss the option "I am sorry that Gavin Dawson's dream was crushed"

by Norsktroll on Nov 18, 2008 10:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Wow...that link to the notes.

Tons of stuff.

I learned that Don Nelson has coached against the Blazers more often than any other active coach. Who looked that up? Who would think to look that up? How are stats like that even managed?

I’m sure there is a giant statistics computer somewhere, somthing like the WOPR from “War Games”. Eventually the computer will go beserk, making Robert Swift the league leading scorer and leading to the destruction of the earth.

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The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Nov 18, 2008 10:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Elias Sports Bureau has tons of facts like this - if you pay for it like e.g. ESPN and probably a lot of teams and media outlets do

by Norsktroll on Nov 18, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Quote

Portland was 0-4 on the road against
Western Conference opponents before its win Saturday … The four
losses had come against playoff teams from 2007-08 with combined
home court records of 127-37 a season ago.

Our 4 losses are pretty ‘legit’ losses.

by rmcdougall on Nov 18, 2008 11:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

good deal for both parties.

He’s not in my fave 5 or anything, but dude is a gamer.

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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Nov 18, 2008 11:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Kirk Hinrich

Gets paid $10m a year. Is that excessive, or is that still a good signing? He is supposedly a top-notch defensive PG, distributes well and nears the Steve Blake spot-up shooting ability.

If you’re willing to say that ~$9m a year for Jackson is reasonable, was the Hinrich deal reasonable?

by rmcdougall on Nov 18, 2008 11:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Good deal for both

He’s worth about that much and he seems to fit in and stay out of trouble there.

by tominhawaii on Nov 18, 2008 11:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Absolutly a horrid deal for the Warriors

But great for Jackson.

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by Ben Q Rock on Nov 18, 2008 11:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

horrid like rashard lewis horrid or some other kind of horrid? jk

by Ben. on Nov 18, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

that was a funny thing to say

to the Magic blogger! – Elgin

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by 22baylor on Nov 18, 2008 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

This is why I'm loathe to comment on contracts for players on other teams

Dude, I’m not the one who gave a one-time All-Star with one skill $118 million over 6 years. The deal was first reported as 5 years and $75 million, which is much more reasonable. But whatever.

Apart from screwing the Warriors out of the chance to sign any of the top free agents in 2010 — they never had a shot at LeBron, D-Wade, Amare, or Bosh, but a guy like Joe Johnson or Michael Redd might have signed with them — they’ll also be paying a player who’s only slightly above-average $9 million when he’s 35 years old. I mean, I like S-Jax a lot, and he’s calmed down quite a bit since he’s been in the Bay, but he’s not worth that kind of money.

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by Ben Q Rock on Nov 18, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

D'oh!

Forgot link to 5 years/$75 million. Here it is.

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by Ben Q Rock on Nov 18, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't you price yourself out of 2010, too?

With a more reasonable contract for Lewis, Orlando (nice climate, no state income tax, etc.) might have been able to attract another maximum free agent. E.g. Bosh, to form a frontcourt of terror. Now, it would be an awfully thin roster if they did that even if they let Hedo go.

by Norsktroll on Nov 18, 2008 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

no state income tax?

interesting

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by prezofdeath on Nov 18, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Great deal for Antoine Walker....I mean Stephen Jackson

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Nov 18, 2008 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

OH, I FORGOT

I initially clicked the comments to thank you for the link to the notes. I downloaded the Magic’s ones for tonight’s game and will continue to do so throughout the year.

So, once again, thanks.

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by Ben Q Rock on Nov 18, 2008 12:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

no problem…. spread the good word about the game notes…

was kidding (mostly) about lewis… thanks for stopping by…

by Ben. on Nov 18, 2008 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ben my man

how you gonna’ stay at the top of the game if you keep giving away your secrets? You’re not supposed to do that till you’re an old vet about to retire.

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by prezofdeath on Nov 18, 2008 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs