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LMA Timidity?

I am not here to make a great, tumid judgment call on LMA and his future. I'm not going to advocate a trade, a benching, more minutes, less minutes, or even a new coach.

I just thought I saw something in the last few road games and I wanted to see if anyone else saw it too.

In the last three road games, I've been pretty happy with LMA on the defensive end. He's going for blocks, getting rebounds, etc. His defense seems sound to my untrained eye. His offense looks good...

... that is, his offense looks good in the first three quarters generally speaking.

In the fourth quarters of the last few games, I swear it seems like LMA is a little bit afraid to shoot the ball. Like he's not looking for his offense even a little tiny bit. Almost as if he's eager to defer to Roy and even Fernandez.

In the Atlanta game, before Rudy made his awesome little turnaround jumper (with just a leeeetle bit of travel) I was shouting at the screen the first few possessions for LMA to take the shot. He'd come out top and not even glance at the basket where in the first few quarters I'd be expecting a jumper or a drive.

In the New Orleans game... same sort of story. I remember crying at the TV just begging LMA to look for a little O... but it didn't happen. We got Rudy and Roy pushing... and they couldn't come through that game. The only shot I remember LMA taking is the baseline 3-pointer. I know he missed it but I was happy to see him take it. That's sort of his game. (But a little part of me now remembers that the shot was short... a sign of nerves, pundits will tell me at halftime shows.)

Then in the MN game--and I'm looking for it now--in the fourth quarter, it seemed to me like LMA was very eager to defer to Roy and Rudy in the 4th quarter. Even Outlaw.

I strolled through the game message board. I saw charming comments (from blzrfan with several comments like this) "Maybe LMA will get his head out of his butt" and (from tweener) "Buck up LMA we need something" and (from odiferous emanations 74) "I wish LA were playing tonight. We could use him" (from norsktroll) "LMA and Rudy are non-factors so far (with about 6min to go).

 What was really intersting is that there was a resounding, echoing silence regarding any LMA in the 4th quarter. Plenty of chatter about Oden, Rudy, Roy, and Outlaw. Nothing for LMA but these plaintive mentions.

So I'm wondering... does anyone else have this suspicion that LMA doesn't want the ball in the 4th quarter? If so, is that ok given we have Roy, Rudy, and Outlaw all eager to take those shots? Or am I wrong?

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I think it's more to do with what we do have

While I agree that LMA needs to be more assertive, I also think that the ball should always go through Roy first. Rudy has turned into a go to scorer when we have needed him (Miami) in the short time he has been here. Travis showed the gumption last year and last night against Minny. LMA also hit the shot that put us ahead against San Antonio, so it’s tough to say that he looks to defer.

Our plentiful options remind me of the 2000 team, with lots of options and no real one go-to guy like Bron or T-Mac. The difference is that Roy seems to be the bulwark of our offense in the waning stages in the game, and this is only his third year. This is a good post for looking to the future and what championship teams always have, a go-to guy for the win.

by RipCityRhapsody83 on Nov 16, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

bulwark

i was pretty sure it wasn’t a word, then I looked it up. It’s a word alright, albeit misused in your comment.

Main Entry:
    1bul·wark Listen to the pronunciation of 1bulwark
Pronunciation:
    \ˈbu̇l-(ˌ)wərk, ˌwȯrk; ˈbəl(ˌ)wərk; sense 3 also ˈbə-ˌläk\
Function:
    noun
Etymology:
    Middle English bulwerke, from Middle Dutch bolwerc, from bolle tree trunk + werc work
Date:
    15th century

1 a: a solid wall-like structure raised for defense : rampart b: breakwater , seawall2: a strong support or protection3: the side of a ship above the upper deck —usually used in plural

I could see Oden and Przybilla being our bulwarks on defense though. Not trying to call you out on poor grammar, I just thought this was an interesting word choice.

by hollywood robinson on Nov 16, 2008 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that is true

but I have used it time and again interchangeably in sports articles in the past interchangeably with pillar. A rampart doesn’t necessarily have to be huge, it can be the cornerstone, or a small package, but still a strong support. You are right, but do not ever doubt me again! Haha!

by RipCityRhapsody83 on Nov 16, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

we havent

played atlanta yet. are you thinking of the heat?

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Nov 16, 2008 12:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, yes. The Miami game.

Buck Williams for the hall of fame

by Phizbin on Nov 16, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

partially right

Lamarcus needs to be more aggressive, but not by taking jumpers. He needs to be getting the ball deep in the post, something I remember him being capable of last season. I’m not sure if this is necessarily his fault as it seems we’re more interested in running pick and rolls and isos for Roy and Outlaw in the 4th. I cringe when LMA takes 3-pointers—shades of Uncle Cliffy and Rasheed. Unfortunately he’s not even as good of a longballer as those two. I think it’s actually a smart move on his part not to take those long jumpers he’s been taking in the first quarter in the fourth. We need to be getting high percentage shots at the rim (or kick it out to RELIABLE long range shooters) which is something we haven’t seen from Lamarcus much this season.

by hollywood robinson on Nov 16, 2008 12:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

LMA should hesitate MORE on long jumpers rather than staying aggressive with them late. Had he been more aggressive taking those shots in the 4th, it might have cost the Blazers one or two of those tight wins.

I don’t mind the threes from the corner as much, actually. As long as they’re from the 22-foot range. I’d rather see those shots than deep twos from the top of the key. Knocking down 33% of those threes is just as good as hitting 50% on the long twos (which LMA is not capable of yet).

I’d like to see him only take a few long twos per game, unless he’s hot. He needs to work fifteen feet and in – and get tougher about doing it.

When I saw the title of the post, I thought the topic might be how LMA is not being aggressive when he does have the ball inside. Sometimes when LMA has a point blank opportunity he goes up REALLY soft instead of either dunking or going through the defender. Most notably in the first half on the first Minny game, when Jefferson blocked about three of his first six shots.

LMA’s capable of being tough inside and going hard to the rack – he just needs to develop the mindset that will allow him to do it consistently.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Nov 16, 2008 3:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed and Agreed (or something like that) :)

It has been driving me nuts watching him act like a SF instead of a PF. He seems to have fallen in love with the jumper and doesn’t seem to even want to get physical down low. It sometimes seems to me like he is afraid that if he bangs with the bigs down low he might get injured and he doesn’t want to risk it. I think that is why he is often called soft. He is playing low risk, high reward basketball. Unfortunately, when his shot is not falling, then his offence is minimized. I would like to see him play more like an old school PF getting physical down low but I am not holding my breath.

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by LaMarvelous on Nov 16, 2008 7:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he's still working

Remember when LMA had no inside game at all? Naturally he is just a jumpshooter, so i guess thats why he may seem timid. It’s great that he has continually developed his inside game, but I wonder what is going to happen with Oden back. Will LMA drift outside to give oden more room? WIll he not work on his post game as much bc he figures that Oden will be more than adequate there?

Honor Terry Porter

by Philthyanimal on Nov 16, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah last year someone found the same thing

that he does satrt to drift at the end of the game. Surprisingly Melo was the worst player they exained.

http://www.realgm.com/src_beyondthearc/118/20080501/the_law_of_diminishing_marginal_returns/

It is due to the nature of big men, when the game gets tight (and it seems like all of our games to date are tight, much to our chagrin) teams will double immediately if the ball goes down into the post and there is a talanted big man down there. It also takes more time do set up a post play and less to just attack the basket on the perimiter.

So it does not have that much to do with LMA’s game so much as the flow of the game as pointed out by those stats.

The season is here.

by SpyderRyder on Nov 16, 2008 1:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Excellent point

And when Oden gets back into complete game shape and starts to feel even more comfortable, then look for LMA to be a key in cutting and finishing when the double comes to Greg. I can honestly say that I am like a school girl all giddy me excitement, but that would be more appropriate pre-op.

by RipCityRhapsody83 on Nov 16, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LMA is a weak low post player; not a great 3 point shooter either... So he spends tons of time hovering in netherland...

…………………… Late in the game, Roy starts crashing to the rack (resulting in fouls or short rebounds) or they start kicking to the open perimeter shooters… Leaving LMA hovering in netherland, hitting the odd midrange jumper.

I think LMA is big enough to play low, it’s just not in his temperament. I reckon he can be coached into it though, that’s what’s missing from his game, for sure.

"Sergio is clearly the MJ of 3rd string point guards!" —Mortimer Pritchard

by timbo on Nov 16, 2008 1:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, LMA is a 1-3 quarter player

He has trouble creating a good shot for himself when the defense tightens up in the 4th quarter. The defense becomes too physical for LMA and takes away his post game. His face up game is not well developed to be counted on. He becomes another jump shooter on the floor. Usually there are four better jumpshooters on the floor with him, Roy, Blake, Outlaw, and Rudy. LMA would be the last option as a jump shooter. I’m glad he’s not taking all those shots in the 4th and concentrating on defense and rebounding. It’s just the limitation of his game.

With Oden playing in the 4th. LMA should get more opportunities to knock down that jumper. Oden will be a better option in the post because of his ability to draw fouls or defenders. Most centers won’t be able to guard him one on one.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Nov 16, 2008 1:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's why he's "Smooth"

A. He’s very long, with a good build, but lacks
    core strength that would allow him to slam
    many inside shots. He’s getting blocked at
    the rim on contested shots or turning his body
    to try to take the contact & finesse the shot.
    Neither is working.
B. Smooth has one of the most beautiful Top of
    the reach jumpers in the league. He’s $ when
    squared up from 20’ in and will continue to
    expand his range to the 3 pt. line as we’ve seen.
C. His low post game is good when he gets low lost
    position on the left block. This allows him to turn his
    shoulder and roll into the lane for the right hand hook,
    but the money shot could be the “Smooth Shake”. The
    fake to the right and spin back fadeaway to the baseline
    is good, but his lack of great CORE strength keeps him
    from consistant elevation and balance.
D. Smooth is one of the fastest bigs (PF/C) in the league and
    can leak out on occasion or just outrun the defender for
    secondary fast break buckets.

    In most cases these offensive strengths would make Smooth
a consistant 20 ppg scorer and All-Star. The problem is his lack
of CORE strength and semi passive attitude. He reminds me
a lot of Sheed (with a great attitude), in that it took Sheed 5-6
years in the league before he started asserting himself physically.
He played more on the perimeter, get long rebounds and weak
side blocks. Eventually as he got experience, he posted more
and was very tough on all three front court positions defensively.
Smooth has a great work ethic and attitude which will help him
to continue to improve. I think GO’s growing post emergence
will help, as will the return of 3M. They will both help spread the
floor which helps Smooth’s mid range shot. $$$$$$$

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It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Nov 16, 2008 3:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Nov 16, 2008 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good call

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Nov 17, 2008 8:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What's up with his neck?

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Nov 16, 2008 6:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the link...

I had heard the rumor, but until now it was just a rumor. Rec

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by LaMarvelous on Nov 16, 2008 7:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't find the link

But a few games back they showed him on TV with a wrap around his neck, the next there were reports he couldn’t look up, and that made it hard to play.

by ITSChuck on Nov 16, 2008 6:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Bonnets!!!!

BONNETS I SAY!!!

and I’m taking away the lolipop and giving him a pacifier.

I love Aldridge, but he can be so much more than he is and I wonder how long it’ll take for him to see that.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Nov 17, 2008 8:48 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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